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Take me of this frigin''' list. I have replied unsubscribe about four 
godamn
times and it never happens. Take me offffffff!! NOWWWWW!!!!!!!

Kim Flint wrote:

> At 01:37 AM 8/26/98 -0500, mark sottilaro wrote:
> >As a creator of original music I find nothing wrong with this at all.
> >
>
> I used that argument in 1986, and I have not granted you permission to 
>use
> it. You will be hearing from my crack legal team shortly!
>
> But really, I think you would have a difficult time arguing that the
> zillions of recordings being made in the numerous collage-based genres,
> using samples, are all unoriginal. Negativland makes a very good point 
>about
> the Fair Use principles of copyright law, and the rights granted therein.
> Fair Use has always been a part of the law, but there are not many 
>precedent
> cases available to define it very well. So the situation is a bit vague,
> there aren't any solid legal guidelines to follow, and now advances in
> digital media are pushing the issue to a head. I would imagine that with 
>big
> record companies and the RIAA aggressively threatening people with 
>lawsuits
> to make them give up their fair use rights, it won't be long before we 
>see
> more of this being tried in the courts.
>
> Anyway, Negativland convinced me of all this several years ago. They have
> been making the fair use case quite eloquently for many, many years, and 
>I'd
> suggest checking out what they have to say before making reactionary
> statements. Most people don't have a very good grasp on what copyright 
>law
> is all about, even when they think they do (like confusing copyright with
> property rights), and even fewer know what Fair Use is. It's a worthwhile
> thing to learn, rather than assume....
>
> Negativland is also a really cool experimental-noise-found sound music
> group, not to mention master media artists. Nobody writes press releases 
>as
> well as they do! they've turned this whole Fair Use crusade into a media 
>art
> project in and of itself, which is quite fun to follow. Their book "Fair
> Use: the Story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2" is geat, chronicling 
>their
> experiences getting almost sued off the planet by U2, Casey Casem, and
> Island Records, because of a sample on a record. (you might never get to
> hear the original version, but the song is extremely funny....) Of course
> that is the same U2 that samples local news broadcasts and tv shows 
>during
> their stadium concerts, and manipulates them on their giant video screen,
> without seeking permission from the local tv stations. Apparently their
> lawyers lack the gene for Irony.
>
> Negativland is here, they can speak for themselves just fine:
> http://www.negativland.com/
>
> kim
> _________________________________________________________
> Kim Flint, MTS                     kflint@chromatic.com
> Chromatic Research                 408-752-9284
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