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Re(2): quad looping



Dennis, if you ever get out to San Francisco, definitely check out the
Audium (1616 Bush St.)  Stan Schaff started doing multiple speaker "sound
sculptures" in 1960 and still gives weekly performances.  He's up to 169
speakers, but luckily, doesn't have to strike or set-up.  If you get a
chance to go, plan for a few hours of conversation with Stan after the
show.  He loves to talk about sound, space and music.

http://www.audium.org



On Tue, Nov 2, 1999, Dennis W. Leas <dennis@mdbs.com> wrote:

>Thanks for all the suggestions regarding quad panpots, etc.  Keep 'em 
>coming!
>
>I settled on quad as a compromise between portability and ability to 
>immerse
>the
>audience in sound.  Currently, it takes me a long time to set-up, 
>primarily
>due
>to the number of instruments I like to use.  [Approximately 2 hours each 
>time
>I
>move the stuff.  One gig means 8 hours cumulative "overhead" time: 2
hours for
>studio to van (strike studio), 2 hours for van to gig space (set-up gig), 
>2
>hours for gig back to van (strike gig), 2 hours for van back to studio
(set-up
>studio).  Perhaps I should seek professional help. :)   Perhaps I should 
>take
>up
>the piccolo.  Perhaps I'm jealous of you guitarists with your "15 minute, 
>one
>trip carries all, and I still whine about it" messages. ]  So I'm not 
>scared
>of
>a little more additional time, but I don't want to go overboard! :)  
>Besides,
>if
>I'm used to quad, in a pinch I could probably make do with stereo.  The 
>more
>output channels I add, the increasingly harder this "downsizing" would be.
>
>I want to create music (for lack of a better term) that must be 
>experienced
>live.  Although you could record four channels, most people don't have the
>equipment.
>
>I'm thinking that I could convert a joystick (from Digi-key or Jameco) to
>produce 4 continuous controller midi data streams.  These would feed a
>SwitchBlade unit and enable quad panning of a given input.  With the 
>proper
>tools (probably some programming on a laptop), I can share the quad panpot
>among
>different inputs.  The laptop would permit animation of the panning as 
>well.
>I'm thinking that a Peavey PC1600x would work well for controlling the 
>laptop
>which would then control everything else.
>
>Dennis Leas
>-----------------------------
>dennis@mdbs.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: L Tremblay <ltct@concentric.net>
>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 1:12 AM
>Subject: Re: quad looping
>
>
>>I had a Technics quadraphonic stereo system in the '70s. It was
>>great when stations broadcast in quad, but it difficult and expensive
>>to find quad records. :(
>>
>>- Larry
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Javier Miranda V. <gnominus@earthling.net>
>>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>>Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 12:15 AM
>>Subject: RE: quad looping
>>
>>
>>>A friend of mine told me of a quadraphonic radio station here in 
>California
>>>in the early Seventies, when quadraphonic records started to come out.  
>He
>>>told me they put together two different transmitters, each in stereo, of
>>>course, tuned to the same frequency, and your radio was supposed to mix 
>and
>>>match, and you could hear the whole thing in your living room.
>>>
>>>Come to think of it, wouldn't it be great that you could have a 
>worldwide
>>>concert where the bands are playing somewhere and you could set 
>yourself up
>>>at home and listen in surround sound to the whole thing, as though you 
>were
>>>sitting there?  It would also help if you had one of those 64-inch
>>>flat-screen digital TVs.  What about doing that in a movie theater?  
>Movie
>>>theathers all over the world with live music from somewhere...  OK, what
>>>about loopers playing the music?  Wouldn't that be cool?
>>>
>>>  | -----Original Message-----
>>>  | From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tcn62@ici.net]
>>>  | Sent: Monday 01 November 1999 6:12 PM
>>>  | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>>  | Subject: Re: quad looping
>>>  |
>>>  |
>>>  | At 09:50 AM 11/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>>  | (What do you call a
>>>  | >quad pan-pot, anyhow?)
>>>  |
>>>  | Back in 1969, The Pink Floyd were calling their surround-sound setup
>>the
>>>  | Azimuth Co-Ordinator System, although theirs was hexaphonic rather 
>than
>>>  | quad. (They had used a quad system as early as '67, at the
>>>  | infamous Games
>>>  | for May show at the Queen Elizabeth Hall, but the rear speakers
>>>  | were stolen
>>>  | by the audience!) A joystick could send a sound source (which was
>>>  | frequently tape loops, to bring this on-topic!) panning around the
>>hall.
>>>  | The loop most often remembered (a wonder in itself) was the sound of
>>>  | footsteps walking completely around the crowd.
>>>  |
>>>  | But if you called yours a quad pan pot, we'd know what you were
>>>  | talking about!
>>>  |
>>>  | Tim
>>>  |
>>>  |
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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