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To put in my 2 pence worth... The Vortex is frustrating in a couple of ways, as in the delay speed are ONLY tappable and not dial-in-able which can be annoying for some situations, you DO tend to sit WITH the instructions at all time cos each "patch" has a unique signal flow and some controls change their use dependant on the patch, BUT and its a HUGE BUTT... the possibilities for new and interesting sounds are phenomenal! Strangly the "preset" are all rather mild and its up to you to tweak them to really find mangled stuff, but its all there! The three "KEY" features that make it stand out from any other box I have are... 1)ENVELOPE FOLLOWER: every patch has a parameter that is dependent on the strength of the input signal (IE: a tremelo/pan that speeds up (or slows down) as the sound dies away, or... (this is great) a delay where the feedback level is dependant on signal level...dont gettit? OK you play... you hear NO delays, you stop playing...delays appear and continue looping(yes) till you play, therfore you can play an 8 note sequence and then on the loop play OVER the second half, erasing what was there, but keeping the second half!) 2)MORPH: Any patch can be made to morph into another 3)PEDAL CONTROL: Any parameter can be put under pedal control, including morph, so you can stop half way thru the morph!!! ...or simulate the "Fatboyslim" speeding up loop thing... just play intrument...stop playing... it loops... whammy the old pedal and... check it out now your a funk soul brothera funk soul brothera funk soul brothera funk soul brothera funk soul brothera funk soul brothersoul brothersoul brothersoul brotherbrotherbrotherbrotherbrobrobrobrobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb er...buy it! hope this helps Mark -----Original Message----- From: Mountain Man [mailto:mtman@cloud9.net] Sent: 17. november 2000 11:55 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vortex Hmmmm .... not very encouraging. Yes, I'm in the "found one (on the internet) and deciding to buy" category. And it's not possible to go try it out. Here on the East coast they seem to be much more of a rarity (along with used/trade/rent music stories and pawn shops - at least where I live. Damn!) Anyone else with an opinion? (and perhaps some sound samples? <g>) Thanks very much for your opinion, Rich :) Elby All in jest...and there will definitely be some who disagree, but IMHO, it makes the same sound as beating your head against the wall. That's the only sound i heard...because i kept beating my head against the wall trying to make the damn thing work!!! Seriously, some folks say it does magical things, and it does sound like nothing else sometimes. I just found it incredibly frustrating trying to fine tune or create my own patches. You just keep turning the dials until ya hit something, and then go "....oh, ok, i guess that's how feedback #1 set at 32 on 'Cycloid' sounds...", or something like that. Good luck trying to 'recreate' a sound if you didn't save the patch. Have you found one and are deciding on whether to buy or not, or are you just curious and want to hear one? Where are you located? In Southern California, they are quite common...they pop up in the Recycler often and the used/trade/rent music stores or pawn shops often have one or two that they've been sitting on for a couple of years. If you're ok with the UI, you're set... rich