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Re: Future Repeater Users Manifesto (was Re: Repeater spotted!
> This all sounds great, and jives with what we've been hearing so far...
> it's heartening at least that the product exists in some physical
> manifestiation of metal and plastic and blinky leds. I'm kind of
> disappointed in Damon, as he seemed like a truly non 'marketing guy'
> marketing guy, but whatever, he was probably feeding us the same line he
> was fed by someone else.
> Damon, Electrix, please do not give us a product with buggy software upon
> release. I've seen this happen with too many great products/software
> It's an age-old story... the engineers set deadlines for
> themselves under pressure from management, marketing goes into overdrive
> for the product launch, and it keeps getting pushed back until finally
> marketing and/or management can't take it anymore and push the half-baked
> product out the door, much to the dismay of the users. The engineers keep
> working to support the thing with endless patches, but the damage has
> done, and the product's reputation is shot.
> If there's a remote chance it's not going to be ready by March, say so
> and take the pressure off yourselves so that we the users can have a
> product we can trust. I can't speak for the rest of the group, but I'll
> wait. I would rather hear "It'll be done when it's done" than "It'll be
> ready by january! I mean march! I mean june! umm... 2003?"
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, rich wrote:
> > Howdy folks,
> > Cliff and I went to the Namm show together, and headed for the
> > Electrix booth first thing. I just had to see if they had a
> > functioning unit there to get my hands on. here's the lowdown from
> > our short excursion into Repeaterland:
> > Yes, it is pre-beta software. By self admission, they are not
> > releasing until March. The demo guy was pretty up front about this,
> > and obviously a little upset that he had to demo a machine that was
> > still buggy, and not fully functional. I was a little upset that
> > Damon was not very forthcoming about this info on the list,
> > especially since there is a group buy formed. Power supply?
> > bullshit...The demo guy said "We totally underestimated the
> > complexity of this machine". On the positive side, All of the boxes
> > are sitting in their warehouses, fully built and ready to go, they
> > just need to finalize the software, load it in via the CFC cards and
> > off they go.
> > so...march then...maybe.
> > other than that, the state the box was in was:
> > Only one loop was active, and only two tracks of that one loop were
> > available. BUT...even with that and bugs...this unit is FUN!!!!!!!
> > They had a demo setup with a guitar into POD into the Repeater. I
> > layed a volume swelled pad/drone on track 1, then switched to track 2
> > to lay in a more percussive riff. Now, these are seperate! Yay!
> > two loops going simultaneously. hit the pitch button, engage track
> > one and alter the pitch of track one up an octave. Pitch is shown on
> > the front panel in semitones.
> > This was a new one for me...I thought that you could change the pitch
> > or time on a loop, but that all four tracks would be affected. Not
> > so, to my delight. Wow. four independent tracks! On just one loop!
> > well, not quite...there's only two active tracks on the pre-beta
> > software at this point.
> > Now i hit the pan button, engaged track 1 and shifted track 1 to hard
> > left. engage track 2 and panned it hard right. Zowee! Then i
> > engaged track 1 and track 2 and then started twisting the pan around.
> > Wow. the two loops started fluctuating around in the stereo field.
> > Did this mangling for about 20 seconds before i freaked out the
> > software and it got stuck. oops. reboot.
> > The time stretching is quite dramatic. I originally recorded at 120
> > bpm, and you can go down to like, 4 bpm, which introduced possibly
> > interesting artifacts, especially if post-processed. think fat boy
> > slim, here...
> > One of the more interesting things i saw in the demo they did was
> > that the pitch shifting can be preprogrammed, so when you lay that
> > guitar riff in, what comes out on the first playback of the loop IS
> > PITCHSHIFTED. cool. you don't have to wait for playback and then
> > adjust pitch.
> > there is more to the box, even in it's current state. i am going
> > back on saturday and maybe sunday, so if anyone has very specific
> > questions of something i can try out for ya, let me know. i will not
> > ask them anything about ship dates and such, since i don't really
> > feel like grilling Damon and the rest on behalf of LD. i'm sure he
> > will hear enough of it from the list.
> > seeya!
> > rich
> > >Pre-beta?? The last word from Damon was a problem with the power
> > >suppliers the box was supposed to be out at least a month ago. What's
> > >the hold-up, electrix? we're jonesin for our gear fixes... nothing
> > >than a looper with the dt's...
> > >
> > >-><-
> > >
> > >On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Om_Audio wrote:
> > >
> > >> Saw and played with the infamous Repeater at NAMM- all I can say
>is hold on
> > >> to your hats and get ready for the ride! Software was pre beta but
>man o man
> > >> what a great box-
> > >>
> > >> Cliff
> > >>
> > >>