crystal balls and looper fixes

[Mountain Man <mtman@cloud9.net>]

Sigh.   Now what's a poor looper wanna-be like me gonna do ?  :(    I've 
got the "gotta
haves" for a looper pretty badly right now.  After all the helpful advice 
about the
Lexicon Vortex (a belated *thank you* to everyone who helped in that 
decision), I bought
one back in Dec.  After just a day or two of playing with the 2 sec 
looper, I ran out
and bought a DL4 (with the help of the LD archive of course!).  I was 
meant to loop!!!
I've been just loving this little beast, but the 28 sec limit, lack of 
undo and feedback
control, and absence of midi have me really chomping at the bit for the 
"next level".
And the Repeater was going to be it.  In Nov, I mean in Jan, I mean in ...

I agree with Noah about them taking their time.  They should, and when the 
Repeater does
come out, whenever that is, I'm sure that I'll grab one.  The lack of 
forthrightness on
Damon's part is unfortunate.  Perhaps he'll realize out of this this it's 
best to be
straight with bad news, and to temper optimism (now if only I could learn 
that one about
optimism! lol).

Be that as it may, I need to figure out what's next.  I think that Dan's 
right about the
EDP taking a price nosedive once Repeater hits the streets.  So, do I 
continue on,
patiently, waiting, biding my time, being a good boy?  <g>   Or do I just 
"go for" the
EDP, realizing that I'll probably spend several hundred dollars more to 
get it now than
I would if I bought the same unit 6 months from now?   Yes, probably so.  
I just can't
wait any longer.  I can't wait.  I can't ... I can't  ....   
arrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhh  !
<G>

Well, I imagine I'll be toodling over to Alto Music sometime this weekend 
:)   When I
come up for air, I'll let y'all know how it's going.   BTW, thanks again 
for all the
virtual and vicarious encouragement; you guys are great!

Elby


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>
> Subject: crystal balls, software development, product reps & repeater
> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:45:32 -0800
> From: dan mcmullen <dog@well.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> folks,
>
> anyone familiar w/ software development can tell you that a product as
> complex as an EDP/Boomerang/Repeater which is only now in alpha/beta 
>could
> easily take...  well, i won't even hazard a time frame.  i bet Kim,
> Matthias, Mike & the other folks who have already gone through this got a
> chuckle at the reported remark of the rep at NAMM that it was more 
>complex
> than they'd ever imagined: duh!  if the report that only 2 tracks & one
> loop were just barely functioning at NAMM is acurate, then it could be a
> long time before the firmware is solid.  usually there is a good chunck 
>of
> time *after* software is feature complete before you get all the bugs
> worked out.  bottom line for me is that *no one knows* yet how long it 
>will
> take before Repeater will be solid enough to ship.
>
> in any case, it is kind of absurd to expect Damon, or any product rep, to
> divulge the internal guestimates of when a product will ship.  just look
> what's happened to Damon (& Kim & co in the past) already because he
> volunteered the Jan/Feb timeline: now he's getting crap because that 
>wasn't
> realistic.  bet he won't do that again.  Repeater will ship when (& if) 
>it
> ships, period.  i've got an album project scheduled for march.  
>Repeater's
> reported feature set would be way cool for that, but if march gets here 
>and
> Repeater doesn't i'll use what i've got (& maybe try to get a 2nd EDP if 
>my
> stereo jones is strong enough).  that's just the way it is, imnsho.
>
> hey, if you want to get really upset, just imagine what Gibson's response
> will be when Repeater is finally out: remember Kim's slip way back that
> Gibson would be selling EDPs quite a bit cheaper than Oberheim.  never
> happened, but my guess is that the cost to produce EDPs once the Trace
> Elliot folks get into full production is pretty minimal, and the only way
> for them to compete w/ Repeater will be to sell EDPs at about half what
> Repeater will cost.  think of the firestorm this will generate from folks
> who have recently bought Gibson EDPs at the what the current market lets
> them charge for it.
>
> dan "doesn't know when to stop" mcmullen  :-)
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