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Re: two minds



Two separate lists? I should hope not- Loopers loop audio- whether or not
they save it for later or create it all on the fly they all have that 
single
element in common. I think the majority of techniques and methods used in
"looping" are employed by both styles.
I must admit I love both- I use Acid and loops of all sorts on my computer
and also get off pretty hard on my EDP, jammie, and PDS pedal- in more live
settings.

I really like Kim's perspective on the volatile RAM issue- at first I
thought it would be great- but I know for a fact I loop differently on my
JamMan just for the fact that there is no Undo- it makes a big difference-
(along with many other between EDP and Jam Man) and I agree the spontaneous
evoloution of a loop is a special thing- I personally DO feel the desire to
record my creations however- usually at their "climax" - and a simple
portable MD recorder fits this bill fine.

In any event- I welcome both "side's" opinions and perspectives and hope
that this line of distinction remains blurred and nurtured under the larger
umbrella of looping audio as a whole.

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Myers" <dmgraph@earthlink.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 7:01 PM
Subject: two minds


> It has become clear, following this list over years, that loopers seem to
be
> of two minds.  The Acid guys and the EDP guys are really two completely
> separate camps.  Those of us on "Kim's side" can't understand the desire
to
> save a loop; a never-changing loop just isn't the living thing that an
> evolving loop is.  I equate the static loop with MIDI music, which is a
> spitting out of notes and sounds on command.  Not to discredit that
> approach, but I feel that it's a very different animal.  Not looking to
> start a holy war here, but there is a very strict division between these
> mindsets, and I think we should recognize this.  Could it actually call
for
> two separate lists?
>
> David Lee Myers
>
> on 9/30/01 4:31 PM, Kim Flint at kflint@loopers-delight.com wrote:
>
> > With a performance oriented looper like the Echoplex, the whole feature
set
> > is based around the idea of being able to build, manipulate, and evolve
> > loops freely while performing. If all you do with it in performance is
make
> > static, unchanging loops, you are almost missing the point.
>
>