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Yes, these are some great ideas. Thanks! I like Per's "surround delay groove chamber" idea! But I don't understand how to delay by note value. Can you elaborate? My current thinking: 2 mains, and 2(equal or smaller)spkrs placed to the sides or behind the audience. Add a sub in there somewhere. The 'rear' speakers would carry the same mix as the front but at lower volume and with some reverb, or a short delay , or both. So that anything that is played, looped etc, would surround listener, yet still be intelligble. Think this approach would work? I guess this is kind of similar to surround sound, or 5.1 . Perhaps using a surround processor could help, but I'm not familiar with them, or how you might simulate multi-channel from a stereo source. Naturally, I'd like to keep the cost down and have reasonable portability. -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:per@boysen.se] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:11 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: SV: emmersive sound Interesting thread, really :-) Here's an old whish I have had for a while but never been able to test with a live performance: Get a couple of PA systems for the show - two, three or four. Set up one as usual, on the stage fronting the audience. Set up another at the back of the venue. Maybe use different systems for the sides as well. Then time delay the systems musically, by some note value, with delay units onstage that the musicians control. In my vision this would transform the venue into some sort of "surround delay groove chamber". Each sound would bounce around 360 degrees or more, depending on feedback settings. > > How about that for emersive? ;-))) Best wishes Per Boysen ________________ http://loopboy.tk www.boysen.se www.upsweden.com www.fuzz.se