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Re: GODDESS's forward/reverse 'accident
Claude, I just sang, and it came out this way. I'd love to play it for
you, but I'm not sure I have enough space in my personal web space at the
moment. Is there a place I could upload it to? -Or can I e-mail it to you
As far as getting turned on to palindromic polyrhythms and simple
palindromic rhythms, I first played with them quite unexpectedly, since I
realized I needed a 9 count when recording in reverse to get a chord to
match up with the beginning of a forward track. That way, I'd have a four
count forward, and a four count backward, and could get them both dead-on.
<smile> I thought it was way cool! lol!
Anyway, I then was introduced to polyrhythms, some of which being
palindromic, through Music Craft and Guitar Craft.
This vocal loop just happened though. I was really surprized not to be
able to tell the direction. anyway, if you'd like to hear it, -just
lemme' know what you'd like me to do, K?
At 12:02 PM 7/20/02 +0200, you wrote:
>can we have a listen to this accident
>or isnt it the instinctive result of your sutained work with those
>your guitar playing
>that made you sing palindromic by instinct
>work and search always land in your instinctive playing (finnaly....;=)
>where can I find more info on the palindromic uses in music
>how did you discover this way of generating structures
>are there others ways
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Goddess" <email@example.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:35 AM
>Subject: re: GODDESS's forward/reverse 'accident
>> hey Rick, woohoo!, still up and loopy! lol! Thanks for the tips. I
>> play around with palindromic polyrhythms and teach them in my lessons, I
>> also used to use simple rhythmic palindromes as count-ins when
>> in reverse with tape. So I'm familiar with the concepts. I can't wait
>> try these out!
>> Yes, amy and I have been corresponding a bit lately. I wish I got to
>> the festival.
>> Something I found particularly interesting about my vocal loop is that
>> there's alot of sliding of notes relative to eachother, changing chords
>> between tension and resolve, and despite all this, it's still almost
>> impossible for me to tell which direction this was recorded at. It's
>> pretty wild!
>> Anyway, nighters for now, -will talk soon, K?
>> At 01:11 AM 7/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Dear Goddess,
>> >Viz a vis this idea of forwards and backwards loops.
>> >Try this on for size:
>> >Start playing around with some palindromic rhythms.
>> >an example would be this simple rhythm in 5/8
>> >5/8 ||: D*T*D :||
>> >where D = a bass note
>> > T = a treble note
>> > * = a rest
>> >These could be melodic or percussive sounds.
>> >Flip 'em over backwards and , voila, you have the same rhythm coming as
>> >Here's a beautiful rhythm from Cuba called 'Cascara' that is
>> >||: T*TT*T*TT*T*TT*T :||
>> > 1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
>> >*by the way, if these rhythms don't line up, select them and change the
>> >to courier or andale (fixed width fonts that make all characters line
>> >That's how we send rhythms on the frame drummers list without having to
>> >a notation program.
>> >Now make the melody palindromic as well, as in:
>> >||: 1*33*5*77*5*33*1 :||
>> > 1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
>> >I'm using 1, 3, 5 and 7 as whatever degree of whatever mode or scale
>> >happen to choose (hence, locrian mode would be 1, flat 3, flat 5,
>> >You see what I mean? Excellent for forwards and backwards and
>> >playing that still stays 'consonant' both rhythmically and
>> >Try it, you'll like it.......... <smile>
>> >Hope you are well. How's that new repeater coming along? Can't wait
>> >hear you perform at the World's First All Woman Looping Festival,
>> >4th at the San Jose Museum of Art. Amy X Neuburg was phenomenal and
>> >phenomenally well recieved at this past weeks' Y2K2 Loopfest, btw, and
>> >will also be on the bill with you as the headliner. It's going to kick
>> >warmly, Rick Walker (loop.pool)
>> "The only things I really think are important, are love, and
>> -Then, anything is possible..."
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