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RE: Loop approach: Loop as effect



Title: RE: Loop approach: Loop as effect

3) One point of view might say that using a bunch of EDP editing
functions to chop up a loop actually represents a PURER form of looping
than does a system that applies serious processing or effects to the
loop.  The reason I say this is that things like reverb, pitch
modulation, pitch shifting, or other processing aren't really part of
"looping," per se - they're electronic treatments applied to sound. 

** of course, one could say that the type of looping that is being discussed here is an "electronic treatment" (or manipulation of sound). in that it *affects* (or _effects_, if you prefer) the _original_ sound.

in the instance being discussed, it seems that the edp (or other advanced looper) is *not* creating the initial sound (as a trumpet would), but rather re-contextualizing it.

to me this is not a _big deal_ (in the sense of a debate about what is an effect and what isn't). it sorta gets into the same conceptual gray area of whether or not a dj is a musician, ya know?

if one extrapolates from the idea of the instrument creating the sound, it may mean that the "advanced" looping device is really more of a compositional tool than it is an instrument unto itself.

for example: the instruments in an orchestra make their discrete sounds (or a solo instrument for a solo piece). the composer takes  the musical material (notes, etc.) and then also applies timbral effects (mutes, bow/breath/lip techniques) and deals with form, slicing and dicing motives, etc.

well, not very well articulated, but maybe the gist of it comes through.

(rest could be good).

stig



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