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Re: Dummy Loads, Line Outs, and thangs like that
>I know you have much experience with Rivera amps and racks of gear,
well..... i use one rack w/4 single-space units in it.....
i do use a rivera m100 head, quite often, which was modified by paul
>thought you'd be a good resource for this question.
>I have a Knucklehead 100 watt. I also have a GR-1,
gr-1 is a roland synth-gtr unit w/hex-pickup?
>2 EDPs, and some other
>stuff, that encourages me to run a stereo setup.
>My current preference
>is to run stereo into 2 JC-120s. But... I *love* the tone and
>of my Rivera, and am exploring ways to get it into my setup.
>My goal is to
>treat the Knucklehead as the tone shaper of my guitar signal, while
>my synth guitar and stereo capability.
there is at least one alternate path --- if yer willing to haul everything
dual mono or 3-point stereo:
gtr> knucklehead> dedicated knucklehead cab
(line out of knucklehead> small mixer)
(gr-1> small mixer)
(edp's on fx sends @ small mixer)
(small mixer out> power amp ins of 1 or 2 jc120's)
this separates the tone and soundsource of the gtr from the synth and
etc; in this case, if you have (for example) a thd hotplate, you can
(& balance) the overall output level of the kh w/the controls on the
(www.thdelectronics.com) while sending a consistent level to the
(NB, though: using the hotplate to drive your kh cabinet at only
'whisper'-levels will not allow the kh speaker cab to contribute to your
>I'm toying with the idea of doing
>Guitar -> GR-1
>GR-1 Guitar Out -> Knucklehead (preamp) -> KH Effects Loop with a few
>goodies -> KH Effects return -> KH power amp -> KH Line Out -> GR-1 Guitar
>GR-1 Stereo Outs -> the rest of my stereo setup, including an EDP on each
>side, ending into two JC-120s
sounds reasonable, but then you'll not be getting the best out of the
knucklehead through the 'high-efficiency' jc-120's, i think.....
>This will require me to have a dummy load on the Rivera.
right; and most dummy-loads still require the amp to be connected to an
actual speaker cab.....
>experience with the common dummy load devices? Any idea which will give
>a true dummy load, while maintaining the beautiful tone of the Rivera?
well, there's no quick answer to that.
if you wanna maintain the sound of yer kh, yer gonna need to play it
a suitable spkr cab.
i have, myself, a few pathways to that end:
1) my current setup uses the thd hotplate: very good-sounding & reactive,
very flexible w/a variety of selectable spkr-output-levels and one pure
2) my rivera m100 has a built-in switchable dummy-load, which does the job
well so long as the line-out eventually ends in a suitable gtr spkr-cab,
3) a switchable dummy-load w/compensated line-out made by mark bartel (of
toneking amplifiers) that functions much like the rivera, but in a
i don't know if this'll help ya, but over the years i've developed this
system as my 'direct-recording' rig:
gtr>pedals>toneking comet 40 amp & cab>thd hotplate(set at -12dB, so
still some gtr sound in the room)>ada ampulator (reactive power tube
tone-shaping)>small mixer (loops, fx, etc)>ada microcab2 (speaker
>2nd question - do you have success with taking the Line Out from a Rivera,
>running it through rack gear, and going out to other guitar amp(s)?
that has worked for me, in the past, but:
i would think that jc120's are not gonna be the perfect match for what i
presume is the KH's original tone.....
experimenting is the *only* way to find out what might work for ***you***!
>tone gonna sound like doo-doo? I can't really test this until I have a
as far as i can tell, the 2 major available choices would be:
1) the thd hotplate (which i quite like, myself), and
2) the palmer stuff..... ( available at http://www.palmerdirect.com/ )
hope that helps!, and sorry if it doesn't.....
dt / splattercell