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Re: fcb1010 programming example



Having recently purchased an FCB1010 to control a 
Repeater, I can appreciate your frustation.

I've always experienced strange behavior from my 
Repeater when attempting to control my Repeater using 
PC's only. And this from three (3-count 'em) different 
MIDI pedals.

For some reason, PC's alone don't seem to properly 
control MY Repeater. I believe I have the latest MIDI 
docs (O/S 1.1 addendum plus I downloaded the latest MIDI 
documentation form the Electrix website). And I'm 
running O/S 1.1.

Anyhow, what I finally did to get the Repeater to 
function, is to program the specific PC AND the specific 
CC to send a specific function (i.e. RECORD, UNDO, etc.).

Now, it (the FCB1010) works flawlessly. Maybe there are 
errors in the docs. Or maybe my Repeater is flakey. 
Don't know. Anyhow, try sending both the PC & CC for a 
function.

Regards, Paul
> Thanks for the walk through.  At this point I am even more confused than 
> I was before.  It appears that my Behringer is sending CC messages very 
> strangely (expression pedal or not).  For example, I go to program a 
> preset with nothing in it, choose pedal six (CC) and select a command 
> number and a value.  Now the really strange thing is, neither of these 
> seem to match ANYTHING in the Repeater midi command list.  I can enter 
> CC #03 and a value of 127 and it sends the Repeater into record.  I can 
> send CC#14 and a value of 03 and it sends the Repeater into record.  I 
> can send CC#14 and a value of 02 and it starts and stops the Repeater. 
>  The really frustrating part of this is not being certain enough of what 
> I'm doing midi wise to troubleshoot this and rule out user error versus 
> a defective unit (Repeater or FCB).
> 
> I have a software upgrade on the way so perhaps that will solve the 
> problem.  Or perhaps I could simply scrap it all and go back to being 
>happy.
> 
> sigh
> 
> Kevin
> 
> SRice wrote:
> 
> >I'm just back from a week away; two things caught my attention
> >skimming LD digests(and deleting every other one.)  First is
> >the Doepfer midi controller, which is available "guts only"
> >so I can (try to)attach my own pots.  Second was a question on
> >programming the expression pedals of a fcb1010.  Here is
> >an example of the latter.
> >
> >I'll start by assuming that is already connecting and working
> >with PC messages.  The steps below will program the 1010
> >so that whenever a switch is pushed, an expression pedal will
> >transmit tempo change midi CC commands to a Repeater.
> >
> >1) Tap the UP and DOWN switches to select a bank.
> >
> >>Each bank must be programmed separately.
> >>
> >
> >2) Pick a switch which will put the expression pedal into
> >change tempo mode.  Any of the switches from 1 to 10 may
> >be used.  Tap this switch.
> >
> >>Note that within a bank an ex-ped may have more than one 
> >>
> >function.
> >
> >3) Depress the DOWN switch for several seconds.
> >
> >>You are down in programming mode.
> >>
> >
> >4) Deselect every switch, and select switch 8.  To select
> >and deselect a switch, depress it for several seconds.
> >
> >>At this point switch 8 should be the only switch with
> >>
> >an illuminated LED.
> >
> >>NB:  Each switch can send several midi commands, this
> >>
> >example uses only a single CC command.
> >
> >5) Tap switch 8.  Switch 8 should now be blinking.
> >
> >6) Tap the UP switch.
> >
> >>This confirms your selection.
> >>
> >
> >7) Raise and lower ex-ped A until the numeric LED shows "9"
> >
> >8) Tap the UP switch.
> >
> >9) Raise and lower ex-ped A until the numeric LED shows "0"
> >
> >10) Tap the UP switch.
> >
> >11) Raise and lower ex-ped A until the numeric LED shows "127"
> >
> >12) Tap the UP switch.
> >
> >13) Depress the DOWN switch for several seconds.
> >
> >>You are now out of programming mode.
> >>
> >
> >So, in order to send a tempo change to the repeater, tap
> >the switch you chose in step 2, then use ex-ped A.
> >
> >If you get unexpected or inconsistent results, the reason
> >is probably that another switch is reprogramming the ex-ped.
> >Either go through every other switch on every bank you use
> >and disable the ex-ped, so that it never gets reprogrammed,
> >or program the desired function for every switch.  The
> >ex-peds stay in the last state they were configured by
> >one of the switches.
> >
> >By programming some(often the same) ex-ped function for every 
> >switch you can both maintain a given midi cc function for the 
> >ex-peds and change their function as desired.  For my 1010 I 
> >have two banks set up for recording, and on one I use ex-ped A
> >and B for levels on track one and two, and the other bank
> >users A & B for levels on three and four.  On two more
> >banks most switches don't send any PC commands, but
> >define the ex-pedals to access the many repeater parameters
> >accessible only by midi CC.
> >
> >Yours in rhythm,
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
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