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Andy thanks for the tip we need once in a while mails like this brother! Cheers L.a > > I personally haven't, but if you're interested in > 8th-quant polyrhythms, > try this on for size: > > 1) Plug a pedal into the feedback hack > 2) Set Insertmode to Substitute > 3) Set Interface mode (under "loop/delay" > parameters) to either Stutter > or Replace > > The reason for number 3 is that, because the pedal > controls feedback in > these modes, the actual front panel knob becomes a > "Substitute Feedback" > control. Which simply means that you can adjust how > much of the > original loop will still be heard when using > Substitute. > > If you turn the front feedback knob all the way to > the left, then > Substitute will cover up all of the original > material in the loop. If > you turn it all the way to the right, then > Substitute basically becomes > Overdub - you can still hear the original material > in the loop after > you perform the Substitute function. > > So, you could lay down a 4/4 groove in a > single-cycle loop, and then set > 8th/cycle to, say, 5. If you start doing > 8th-quantized Substitute > business with the front Feedback knob full right, > then you'll get these > 5:4 polyrhythms happening, but it'll be a truly > audible polyrhythm, > because you'll still be able to hear the original > loop content (because > you turned the Feedback knob all the way to the > right in Stutter or > Replace mode). > > Jesus, that reads a lot more complex than it actuall > is, I promise. > > > - any conceptual ideas to pass on? > > Me? Conceptual ideas? What on Earth are you > talking about?! Now if > you'd asked for good beer recommendations... > > - I like using 8th-quant with Substitute a lot, > because it's a very > surprising, subtle, and smooth way of changing > things. You can play > stuff into the EDP and not have any idea how it's > going to sound until > you hear it back. But because 8th-quant is on, it > will automatically > have a highly rhythmic quality. Kind of like giving > glitch-core a nice > suit and a haircut. (Can you tell I need to get out > of the house more? > And get a haircut?) > > It's particularly cool if you set the 8th/cycle > value to a higher value > than you could realistically play in real time, i.e. > putting 8th/cycle > to 16 at a tempo where one cycle = 180 BPM or so. > > - Use some variation when you're doing 8th-quant > stuff. Hold the > replace button down for different lengths of time to > introduce some > variation in the length of the replace/substitute > action, to get away > from the "step sequencer" feel, and try adding a few > drops of silence by > hitting the button without playing anything into it. > > > Or try doing lots of replace/substitute in one part > of a loop, but > leaving the rest of the loop unaltered, for a sort > of post-Timbaland > start-stop effect. (Dude, I'm giving away all my > good tricks here...) > > - Like Per said, 8th-quant in conjunction with > changing speed is a lot > of fun. > > > I'm kind of experimenting with glitchy FSU stuff > at the moment, > > You're well on your way to being the first guy to > open for both Level 42 > and Autechre... > > > but wondering about more predictable processes and > outcomes... > > ...which is interesting to hear you say, since I > find 8th-quant most > useful for UN-predictable outcomes. It does impose > a more assuredly > rhythmic effect, but I find that when I know > precisely what I want to do > with Replace stuff, I like having Quantize off, > because I can be more > accurate and exact with the way I use it. > > 8th-quant is like automatic transmission, and > unquantized is like > driving a stick. > > > Anyone with an EDP who hasn't got Loop IV yet, you > are missing out on so > > many very very cool features... get it, and let > the features teach you some > > new stuff... :o) > > True dat. And mad props to Andy Butler for coming > up with 8th-quant in > the first place. > > As is horribly apparent by now, I'm in very dire > need of a brisk walk > and a cup of coffee... > > Most best, > > --Andre LaFosse > The Echoplex Analysis Pages: > http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com