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Re: Admin query



I would recommend that you do as I do, and utilize a killfile process
instead of just something that deletes or blocks from the client end.  
Using
a killfile on your host - this is a server thing, so aol users are a bit 
sol
in this one - does the following for you:

1.  You don't have to wait for all that spam to be sent to the mail
client/spam handler on your machine, as it never gets sent to you.
2.  The spam-in-question gets bounced back to the host that sent it to your
server.  This in many cases alerts the sending host to the spamming
activity, which in many cases, believe it or not, actually results in the
account being cancelled.  Spam is forbidden stuff in any legitimate Terms
and Conditions of Usage, and is usually enforced by webmasters/abuse
handlers (who, unlike politicians, actually do something about it, and know
what they're doing about spam).
3.  If you maintain a killfile, and it includes, say, the notorious spammer
host kornet.net, nothing from kornet.net comes to you.  Quite simple.

I would also say at this time that simply deleting spam at the client end
does NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM, but rather does the email equivalent of "if I
can't see it, it isn't a problem".  This is similar to thinking that,
because the Nazis are only invading Poland, that it won't become a problem
in the USA.  And we know how well THAT thinking worked.

Just my two cents.  Okay, more than that. :)

Steve Goodman
EarthLight Productions
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"das" <das@ubuibi.org> put forth:
> as i wrote before that i too am unhappy with the arrangment
> and did write to the admin, just recieved this reply;
>
> no, I won't clutter the list up with that nonsense. Learn to use the mail
> filter functions in your email client.
> kim
>
> i've written him back that i do not understand how having a subject 
>header
adds
> clutter, for me having a header would help with spam riddance.
>
> hmmmmmm ?????
>
> -das
> ubuibi.org
>
>
>
> Scott Carr wrote:
>
> > Yes, it's a sensible request, but the one person who could change a
> > simple listserv configuration file thinks doing so is unhip and enables
> > morons. After all, Yahoo does this, and we all know that the unwashed
> > have ruined the internet by trying to make it too EASY.
> >
> > Really it's the only thing I don't like about this list. The signal to
> > noise ratio is fairly low, people are generally kind and helpful, 
>trolls
> > are shown the door fairly quickly, and there is lots of information
> > passed around about all things looping related.
> >
> > I know fully well how to use mail filters and do use them for some
> > purposes, but I prefer for all of my music related e-mail to go to my
> > inbox. As my account gets more and more spam e-mails that have subject
> > lines that resemble some of the subject lines for this list it becomes
> > increasingly difficult to sort out threads.
> >
> > So thank you for bringing this up. You shouldn't have to appologize for
> > revisiting old ground here when it is a persistant problem that annoys
> > more than a few subscribers.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Paul Marshall wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Loopers
> > >
> > > I am regularly unsubscribed by the from the list because I bounce
mails that
> > > I believe to be spam. I use a prog called Mailwasher.  I receive 
>maybe
100
> > > spam messages a day and I check them at the server to accept or
bounce.
> > >
> > > Usually I can tell which are LD posts because it says so in the TO
column.
> > > However when there is a post where LD is in the CC or one of a list 
>of
> > > recipients then it displays an unrecognisable e-mail addy and I 
>bounce
it
> > > believing it to be someone wanting to enlarge my breasts or something
:).
> > > LOL
> > >
> > > I scan my mails carefully before deleting but the volume of traffic,
the
> > > variety of subject headers and number of subscribers here means that
posts
> > > can and do get deleted in error.  I was unsubscribed again tonight
when I
> > > bounced the post from Jeff Lomas with the Subject of 'Accidental
performance
> > > tomorrow' where LD was part of a list of addressees.  Mailwasher
showed the
> > > first addressee only and I bounced it. I don't want to have to open
every
> > > mail to check obviously.
> > >
> > > Ok so I know this is a limitation of Mailwasher but is anyone else
having
> > > this difficulty.  All of the other fora I participate in to varying
degrees
> > > have some sort of a header to identify [Loopers-delight] kind of
thing.  I
> > > understand that this isn't a yahoo group and different approaches
apply.
> > >
> > > Anyone have a workaround or a best way?
> > >
> > > I'm still ruminating on the percussionist loopers thread, thanks to
all for
> > > the replies, I'll post again tomorrow.  Love the forum guys.  Cheers.
> > > Thanks Kim
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > ----------------------
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