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RE: midi control SW sampler live/hands free



  The FCB 1010 sends NOTE ON 0, upon releasing a pedal, which acts as a
NOTE OFF message.   

Smiles,

Cara

At 01:06 PM 5/14/03 -0400, you wrote:
>The midi implementation of the 1010 is actually such that the device has 
>10
>'slots' so to speak.   5 PC slots, 2 CC slots, 1 Note ON slot (the 1010 
>does
>NOT send Note OFFs) and then two assignable expression pedals which 
>transmit
>1 CC message type each (per preset).
>
>Each of these 'slots' is globally assigned to a midi channel.  Ergo, if 
>you
>assign the Note ON 'slot' to midi channel 3, you can only program presets 
>to
>send a midi Note ON out on midi channel 3.  If you wanted to send a midi
>Note ON message on any other midi channel, you'd have to change the global
>midi channel assignment for Note ONs and this change would apply to ALL 
>1010
>presets that were programed to send this type of midi message.  Right now
>though, holding a footswitch down will is not functionally different than
>pressing it momentarily.  The 1010 does not interpret the act of holding
>down a footswitch, all programed functions are sent upon the intial press
>(expression pedals work differently of course, sending out appropriate 
>midi
>CC values when you sweep them).
>
>You're correct in that the 1010 cannot send any midi messages upon the
>release of a footswitch, only the press.  This is the biggest limitation 
>for
>me, although they may release a firmware update at some point to change
>this, assuming they think it's worth the effort and the physical device 
>can
>support it (I think it should).  Note OFFs would then be possible with 
>this
>implementation.
>
>With regards to selecting an appropriate loop or sample in a software
>program via the 1010, the software program would have to support this
>function via either PC or CC messages, and then the 1010 could do this,
>easily in fact.
>
>Mike
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jesse Ray Lucas [mailto:jlucas@neoprimitive.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:05 PM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com; rich@nalutech.com
>> Subject: Re: midi control SW sampler live/hands free
>>
>>
>> Rich-
>>
>> Get any MIDI foot controller that sends MIDI note on
>> messages.  I'm looking
>> at the Behringer FCB1010 right now.  Super cheap and
>> programmable.  A couple
>> caveats:  I've heard, is that each program on the FCB1010 can
>> only send on
>> one channel.  You could get around this by having multiple
>> programs set up
>> to send on different channels and switching between them with
>> your feet.
>> What you want sounds like "one-shot" mode (note-on message
>> plays the sample
>> through one time regardless of the length of the trigger
>> note), and loop.
>> Another thing about the FCB1010 that I've picked up is that
>> the release
>> command of the pedals is not programmable.  This means that you can't
>> program the button to only send a note on message, which would let you
>> sustain a loop until you pressed another pedal with a note off message
>> programmed into it.  Thus, if you wanted to sustain a loop with that
>> particular MIDI controller pedal I believe you would have to
>> keep your foot
>> on the triggering pedal.
>>
>> For software samplers I've got to recommend Native Instruments Kontakt
>> (www.nativeinstruments.com).  Built in effects and modulation options
>> limited only by CPU power.  Very intuitive sample mapping
>> functions.  And
>> *all* parameters are controllable via MIDI.  So, you could
>> use the two foot
>> pedals on the FCB1010 to control filter cutoff, or pitch, or
>> reverb mix, or
>> whatever.
>>
>> Cost is $300+, but considering all that it offers above an expensive
>> hardware sampler solution(limitless effects, limitless LFOs,
>> the list goes
>> on and on), it's reasonable.  There is a warez version of Kontakt 1.01
>> floating around out there if you want to download it and try
>> it out (I'm not
>> responsible for any viruses you get!).  It's not completely
>> stable, however,
>> and you can't get to Native's website to download the upgrade
>> to v1.2, which
>> offers all kinds of goodies like direct from disk streaming
>> support, and
>> ability to map controllers 7 and 10 to volume and pan
>> controls, respectively
>> (a curiously absent feature).
>>
>> Just keep in mind, if you intend to devote a lot of time to a piece of
>> software and your music is going to be reliant upon it, it's
>> worth your
>> money to support it so the company doesn't drop it and leave
>> you hanging.
>> And while you're at it, badger them to make Linux versions of their
>> software!
>>
>> -Jesse
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rich Schiavi" <rich@nalutech.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:32 PM
>> Subject: midi control SW sampler live/hands free
>>
>>
>> >
>> > for a guitarist/echoplex users, i want to be able to
>> trigger samples from
>> > software samplers. i'm looking at acid pro and ableton, and
>> looking at
>> unity.
>> > my main question is, i'm trying to figure out a way to use
>> a midi foot
>> > controller to select a particular sample (or program or
>> sample from a
>> bank?)
>> > and start/stop that particular sample, all from a midi foot
>> controller so
>> i can
>> > keep my hands on the guitar/etc/instrument.
>> >
>> > has anyone got this working? i messed around with my rolls
>> midi buddy and
>> > ableton and acid pro but couldn't see anything to get it to
>> select and
>> trigger
>> > a sample to start playing (continuous) or one time, etc.
>> >
>> > thanks for ideas/suggestions.
>> >
>> > rich
>>
>>
>
>


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