RE: Looping in Stereo ("Pitch Transposing Live Looping") ("Karmic Looping", "N:o 2")

["Kris Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>]

Tables...tablas, doesn't matter to me...whatever makes a noise when you
hit it is fair game to me in the looping world! :)   

Actually, I sold my tablas and invested in several other drums...four
different sizes of darbukas (middle eastern drums), a frame drum, and a
kanjira (like a tiny tambourine with one bell and sounds like a talking
drum when you press on the head with your thumb).

I sold my sitar too, because the last time I performed live with it, I
pulled a muscle in my ass (literally) and acquired piriformis syndrome,
which pinches the sciatic nerve and has been causing me chronic pain for
month.  I sold the sitar and plan to purchase six months of a personal
trainer time to get me back into shape...my medical insurance is paying
for the physical therapy, doctor's visits, and did I mention those great
drugs? (vicidin, soma, and valium....wow, talk about improvisation).  

Anyway, Per, yes, all those scenarios you mention below are fair game,
and I use variations of them. I think you take it a bit further than me,
though.  I do enjoy starting with just an abstract melody and then
adding more soundscape layers, all non-metered of course...it's like
turning the traditional looping process on its head.  Or what I like to
is lay down a seemingly chaotic series of loops, textures, melodies,
etc...with no meter or key, and then use Multiply and Record to
super-impose a metered groove over that, redefining the loop
length....then I have this cool polytonal thing going on over what was a
non-rhythmic soundscape.   I've been adding the percussion and my voice
to that too. The kanjira is totally cool. It is small, and I can pick it
up and play it with my guitar strapped on me.  It is just an amazing
little instrument:
http://www.steveweissmusic.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/3129
7  with a very unique voice.

Kris






-----Original Message-----
From: Per Boysen [mailto:per@boysen.se] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:15 AM
To: Loopers
Subject: Re: Looping in Stereo ("Pitch Transposing Live Looping")
("Karmic Looping", "N:o 2")


On Oct 5, 2005, at 16:36, Kris Hartung wrote:

> You got it, Per! A beautiful scenario:
>
> 1. Lay down a 30 second, lush ambient soundscape loop with effects
> A, B,
> and C
> 2. Lay down another layer of melodic work with effects B, C, and F
> 3. Lay down a solo loop with effects A and H.
>
> ...and so on. It provides a lot of freedom and power to compose
> what you
> want and keep it in the loop cycles.
>
> Kris


Yes, nice! I guess you also use the tables on some occasions? I like  
your scenario, in fact that's a way I usually do stereo looping in  
Augustus Loop. But I prefer to start with a melody on the first  
really long loop. Then, on the second round I layer chords and  
lushworks to back it up. Then I like to freeze that loop and work on  
a second, shorter loop, that is being mangled by sequencer pitch  
transposing while I'm overdubbing into it.  So what comes out of that  
little loop is a little different from what I play into it on the  
first round. And as long as this shorter loop stays in overdub mode  
it will build up cascading pitch intervals of the moving audio (to  
prevent too much "pitch interval stacking" I like to use odd length  
of the midi sequencing providing the pitch transposing triggers).  
Usually that shorter loop makes for a bass line or something funky.  
Then I may freeze that short loop and turn to the long one to kick it  
into a shorter length, maybe two, four or five bars. Length doesn't  
matter much here because this loop is going through a lot of pitch  
changes that each one will change the length and timing of the  
looping audio. So I now replace the first "melody and lushworks" with  
a new pad-like sound in stereo (non rhythmic pad that can take some  
harsh pitch changes without getting that dreadful out-of-sync feel).  
When the loop is "paddish" enough I turn off "follow chord changes"  
for the bass line loop and play a melody while using feet to  
transpose the paddish loop into the same chord changes that my  
melodies imply. And on it goes... the basic work-bench for "Pitch  
Transposing Live Looping".

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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