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Re: crappy music of the masses
<< So if you hate rap, gangsta rap, death metal, etc, >>
I was thinking of the people creating the 'anger-oriented' music rather
the person who is angry at the rappers, heavy metal goobers, whatever.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kris Hartung" <email@example.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: crappy music of the masses
> I'm all for taking that anger and making more music of it. So if you
> rap, gangsta rap, death metal, etc, etc...then who knows, maybe that
> make good inspiration for a dark ambient looping piece. Take a chain
> to an iron cast frying pan...loop that.
>> BUT..........what if the anger & expression lead to physical
>> manifestations? (i.e. beating the shit out of people, killing folks,
>> beating the crap out of one's significant other, et al).
> That's where this thing called taking responsibility for one's own
> comes into play. The last I heard, there is no psychosomatic "necessary"
> or logical connection between anger and assault and battery, unless
> talking about a real disorder or psychosis (though I can easily switch
> my philosophical mode here and posit a theory where everything goes and
> one is repsonsible).
>> Personal expression is great. The older I get, the more I respect those
>> who don't conform to the norms and express themselves via the arts or
>> even just in terms of clothing, hair, whatever.
>> However, a lot of brainwashing is in effect in modern day society by
>> media/advertising/broadcasting conglomerates. And what people are doing
>> isn't necessarily motivated by their own desire to express themselves
>> rather their expression is a result of being influenced as to what they
>> should be doing by folks selling stuff.
> Hmmmm...smells like determinism to me. Are you a determinist? Cool if
> are...I'm borderline. Let's not get the rest of the world to buy into
> that, however....otherwise, we're f*cked. ;)
> Practically, however, I do still question this power of influence. I
> believe (or disbelieve for that matter) that society is "causing" anyone
> to do anthing. That remains to be demonstrated. We ultimately absorb our
> environment and make choices based on that data. We have choices. That
> the key here.
>> ---- Kris Hartung <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>> Sorry folks. It all seems like art and just another form of expression
>>> me. It's all permitted. It's just not reaching out to greet you at the
>>> door. Of course, I'm repulsed by most of it as well, as some art
>>> to us ina healthy system of artist expression. If it doesn't than what
>>> sorry ass, monochromatic, undiverisifed, and basically soporific boring
>>> world we would live in. Now that would make me angry. Getting angry at
>>> people getting angry and expressing it via music seems like a tremdous
>>> of artistic energy.
>>> Just my 2 cents, man....
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Todd Pafford" <email@example.com>
>>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: crappy music of the masses
>>> Agreed, d.s..
>>> The anger, hatred, and violence in gangsta & metal genres astounds me.
>>> What a waste of a day to spend it pissed off at the world. And of
>>> course there's the rampant consumerism in the pop & hip-hop genres.
>>> The saddest thing to me is that most hip young people don't read. (Of
>>> course, it was the same in my day too.) So here we have a situation
>>> where folks spend all day pissed off, thinking about the latest
>>> fashions and bling to spend their dough on, and not learning anything
>>> from several thousand years of human existence and not critically
>>> thinking about how they're living. It's a sad and pitiable waste of
>>> On 1/11/06, daniel stevenson <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>> > who keeps pushing this crappy music to the ignorant masses?im
>>> > sick of
>>> > it to the point of violence! the cocaine pushing rap music...the
>>> > mindless
>>> > rabble of big guitar rock...all the pedofilic pop music aimed at
>>> > kids...where is the art? its no puzzel...kill em all and feed em to
>>> > the
>>> > fat
>>> > greedy humans in buffet lines!
>>> > angry about it,
>>> > scary!
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