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Re: Looperlative Patents
Hmm... Kim - you make a compelling case for buying one of these bad boys
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Flint" <email@example.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Looperlative Too Expensive?
> At 01:03 PM 1/29/2006, Kevin wrote:
> >>Tom Ritchford wrote:
> >>>>If I was Bob, at this price point I would be worried about a pirate
> >>>>like Behringer moving in.
> >>>the advantage to a heavily-software item like the looperlative is that
> >>>Behringer would have to copy the software. That would be hard to do
> >>>without making it provably a copyright violation (rather than just a
> >Allow me to correct a possible misperception here about intellectual
> >property (IP) law. Patents protect ideas, copyright protects the
> >expression of those ideas. I can copy an idea if there is no patent
> >protecting it. Copyright does not protect ideas. If I rip a copy of
> >firmware from a product and then put that in my product I am violating
> >copyright or possibly the product license. A product license is a
> >contract between the seller and the buyer.
> >So provided that the ideas in the EDP were not protected by patent,
> >Behringer could copy all the ideas, except possibly the user
> >interface. Under US patent law, if an idea hasn't been patented within
> >year of the idea being made publicly available, then it can't be
> Interestingly, while many basic ideas about looping are not patented,
> multi-track looping and some methods for implementing and controlling
> multi-track loopers are patented.
> Electrix ran into trouble with this for the Repeater.
> I'm curious to know how some of these multi-track looper products (both
> hardware and software) and their respective developers are dealing with
> those patents. Are they making specific design choices to avoid
> the patents? Are they licensing the technology from the original
> Or are they unaware of the patents and just running blind into a big
> My guess is the latter...
> Kim Flint | Looper's Delight
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