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Thank you all for your input on this subject! Claude's input using SysEx messages was a tad depressing ... The FCB1010 can't pull this off and apparantly Plex's can hiccup acoustically during SysEx processing (their admission/apology, in the manual). There is a suggestion of using separate Source # or MIDI channels and sending two messages. I wonder if synchronization (when working in stereo) would be compromised. I sense that the Plex designers put a lot of effort into the stereo synch issue ... brother synch and intelligent midi piping and all that. Simply sending two MIDI messages might degrade that stereo synch in comparison with brother sync. And then there's the issue that the FCB 1010 is not up to the task. Hmmm. Been using it for a year to control two Plexes and a PCM81. Reprogrammed it several times and used it live dozens of times over the last year. In a gig last night, I tried doing the 'punch the panel buttons' thing to split the two channels so they played two different parts of an ostinato and then reversing one of the channels. Cool acoustic effect, crappy psychological effect. I can tap a footswitch without missing a beat, but going over to the panel was disorienting and took me way out of the music for like 30 seconds. Now I see that the FCB1010 cannot send multiple notes on a single tap. Dandy. > PMC-10 for awhile, but, and maybe mine was weird- there was about a 100ms delay > from when I pressed the pedal to when the EDP changed its state. Yikes! 1/10'th second? That is disqualifying. - Clint Goss Email: clint@goss.com Web: www.goss.com -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@loopers-delight.com] Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 7:00 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup At 02:53 PM 6/17/2006, hazard factor wrote: > This is true, although with the hacked firmware, it has allowed for >some improvement. There apparently isn't enough memory for different >channels per preset, or releasepedal messages, although for probably a >few pennies more they could have maybe used a little bit more memory. if people are going to the trouble of hacking the firmware, why not change out the memory also and increase the memory size? Seems like it would be a pretty simple hardware mod, unless the problem is the cpu address range is already filled up. >So, for midi controllers, this leaves us with the PMC-10 and maybe the >Rocktron All Access, although the Access is about the same price as an >EDP... yes, if you are only thinking of midi footpedal controllers. But there are plenty of other types of controllers. Keyboard controllers, drum controllers, sampler/drum machine boxes, table top studio fader boxes, etc. Many options, unless you are a guitarist who wears big boots and doesn't have a hand free. >I will say- I used the PMC-10 for awhile, but, and maybe mine was >weird- there was about a 100ms delay from when I pressed the pedal to >when the EDP changed its state. Are you talking about the Yamaha MFC-10 midi pedal? That has a known latency problem like you describe. But the old digitech PMC-10 definitely does not have any latency issue. After all, Andre LaFosse uses the Digitech PMC-10 for all his supa-fast pedal pushing. No way he could do that without a responsive pedal. >I just use the EDP controller for the EDP, and the FCB1010 for >everything >else- they work pretty well together. That is another good approach to this. You can use midi control and the Echoplex pedal together just fine. So you could have the FCB1010 set up to control the two Echoplexes together in stereo, and then have the pedal plugged into the slave Echoplex to control it independently. You could probably even come up with some sort of "midi switch" that disconnects the midi connection between them. So with the midi connected, the FCB controls them both in stereo, and the pedal can independently address the slave. If you disconnect the midi with the midi switch, the FCB could them be used to control the master EDP independently. You could switch between the options with a relatively simple solution. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com