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Re: Short loop fades more quickly than long loop with same feedback setting
On 28 sep 2006, at 07.49, Warren Sirota wrote:
> How do you create a swell with destructive feedback, anyway? As I
> recall, at
> least on the EDP, no matter where you set the feedback knob, the
> volume of
> the loop never increases without new input.
You can "pump" the feedback knob/pedal to decrease/increase playback
level. On the EDP this works as long as you stay in the same loop
round ( I think...). This will create tremolo or quick fade-in/out
effects in the audio. This is a technique I'm using a lot for playing
the EDP as well as Mobius (where you have the infinite Undo/Redo
history to go back if you should overdo it by mistake)
> It still seems to me that the destructive nature of the feedback is an
> implementation artifact rather than a feature.
Yes, I think you are correct IF we are talking about "using feedback
as a way to cheat a fading function". But Feedback is a completely
different function compared to Fading. Anyone interested should try
to PLAY with these function and learn what they are good, and less
> Per said:
>> One good thing with using feedback to fade out a loop is that you
>> simply reduce the feedback a little and then you are free to
>> do other
>> things like looping on a different channel/looper while the first
>> channel/loop fades out by feedback layer downscaling.
On 28 sep 2006, at 05.57, Warren Sirota wrote:
> And this is different than fading a track or group of tracks while
> or looping on others?
Yes. A lot different.
> I'm beginning to feel like we're talking about the
> same thing with different words here....
I think you feel that way because you just don't need that particular
functionality that sets feedback and fading apart. I too design my my
looping rig from my musical need, as opposed to designing it from
"feature specifications" and I think that is very important. I
especially take care to cut out, from my palette, everything that I
don't need to be creative. At least for myself, I think it's much
easier to create interesting music/sound when you have less options
to keep instantly accessible in your working imagination. "Kill your
darlings" as we say ;-)
BTW I have different knobs/faders/pedals for two types of feedback
(as those "pedals interface modes" of the EDP) as well as looper/
track level. IMHO they are all different tools.
Greetings from Sweden