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Re: loop sync semantics



well done, aaron! nice graphics.
all the best, tilmann

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "aaron leese" <aaronleese@hotmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: loop sync semantics


>
> I wonder ... Do you suppose we can come to a consensus on the words that 
> most concisely describe these "looping modes" ... though I guess even 
>that 
> phrase is suspect ....
>
> This requires a picture .....
> please see http://www.flyloops.com/semantics/loopingmodes.html
>
> Now for the questions:
>
> 1 - unsynced ..... this is what happens when you have two loop pedals in 
> the same room, and neither one really cares when the other is doing.  We 
> have all tried looping in a band setting and for many of us, we thought 
>we 
> would be slick enough to have two people looping and stay in sync ... 
> sadly it doesnt work that way!
>
> So .....
>
> 2 - full syncronization ..... more advanced looping devices started 
> syncronizing loops ..... that is, you can tell the second (slave) loop 
> pedal to only start or stop recording when the first throws a repeat. 
> This is the typical master/slave set ..... I think.
>
> 3 - partial syncronization ... latching ??? ...... Here the loops are 
>also 
> syncronized, but the pedal will start recording immediately once pressed 
> .... it just knows to only stop recording/start playback when the master 
> loop is at a certain offset .......
>
>
>
> More importantly .... lets talk hardware .....
>
> --- The RC20 and original boomeraang are of course, only layering ... so 
> you could think of this as full syncronization but without the ability 
>to 
> have phrases of different lengths, or to turn phrases on/off once 
>recorded 
> .....
>
> ----  The RC50 has 3 loop banks ... They are unsynced I believe ???  Or 
> you can set a midi clock and preprogram a length??  Can they be 
>different 
> lengths then, but synced (like the EDP multiply function?).  Forgive me, 
> but I haven't checked one out yet.
>
> ----  If you have the cash two EDPS, you can have a master slave and set 
> up the EDPs as fully synced ....
>
> ----  Mobius behaves as fully synced I believe ... though I have only 
>used 
> it a little.  Do you have to preprogram the loop length, or can it just 
> work off the length of the recorded "master" loop, and then go from 
>there 
> ....
>
> ----  Does anything do that other one ..... partial synced / latching 
>.... 
> I imagine Ableton could with some work .....
>
>
> Anyway .... I look forward to the responses .... lemme know what you 
>think 
> the proper words area here for what I call synced/ unsynced/ latching 
> modes ......
>
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