Since we are devoting so much energy to discussing this possibilitiy of an offtopic list Honestly, I think there are far fewer people who object to off topic posts here than we are surmising but I realize I don't know for sure. Why don't we find out. Please tell us what you think. 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. To make this quick, just leave a 1) or a 2) in your message body. As a matter of fact, let's not inundate the list with more discussion on this particular thread. Just quickly log in with your preference....................explain away in the previous OT: posts.