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Re: Fwd: here and now / evolving loops



Daryl, is there a specific instance of you doing this up someplace? I 
would 
love to hear it!

Jeff

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: here and now / evolving loops


> This is an interesting discussion.
>
> It's true, Fabio, many looping artists tend to stay fixed on a tonal
> center. One simple trick I've found is to make a sudden or gradual
> change to a different chord in the same key. The most obvious is to go
> to the relative major or minor, so if it's been a heavy E minor groove,
> I'll start feeding in G major triads. It can create some real drama,
> while allowing an established loop to continue. It's not hard to switch
> back and forth, especially if you replace the lowest part of your loops
> (whatever serves as your "bass").
>
> More dramatically, I'll lay groundwork for an actual key change by
> inserting bits of very nontonal, undefined stuff, slowly obliterating
> the previous key center. When the previous key has disappeared in a
> nontonal mess, I'll start a new one, replacing the nontonal stuff with
> inside material. Coming from chaos to a defined key center can work
> really nicely.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>> What remains unsolved in my mind is: what do you mean about "changing
>> direction" ?
>>
>> Referring to tonality, it seems that a lot of people in this list play
>> on a "tonal centre" (you know what i mean....: playing and looping in
>> E minor, for example) This is no the case of Kris et alteri....I know,
>> but most of people here (including myself) play mostly "on" or
>> "around" the same chord.
>>
>> It's rare to hear someone changing chords, when looping (i mean having
>> and evolving an harmonic structure, like: A minor/D minor/G major/D
>> major and back to the beginning ...just for example) and evolving that
>> chords change into a new one while looping.
>>
>> So, sometimes i feel like live looping miss something about "harmony".
>> You can change rhythm, melodies, but it's difficult to build in short
>> time chords structures that evolve "while" looping.
>


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