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Absolutely. What really helps is that aproach. I've learned it a few years ago from a video with John Abercrombie. It helps developing a sense of "linearity". On Feb 26, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Marc, > > I think the guys that experiment with different tunings don't really > "think" the music as "an instrument". We rather think the the music as > the notes; I mean, according to a key, a scale (not "guitar neck" > scale but the real sounding scale, the vibreations) and a tonal > center. If you think music like that, all you have to do is to find > out "where on this new instrument are the octave, the fifth" etc etc. > Soon you're off playing your usual stuff with the new instrument's > special touch options. > > To learn an instrument as "I put my finger down here to get this note" > is a mistake IMHO and I'm amazed that music schools still do that to > kids. You should learn instrument by first learning a melody of let's > say three notes. Then you find out how to play that melody on the > instrument. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:44 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com > > wrote: >> I've been watching this tread with grrat interest, I think its >> amazing how >> so many of you have experimented with tunings, and have of course >> tried some >> things myself on spare guitars, for effects. (Like for example the >> tunings >> that Rick mentioned, about tuning the whole guitar to one note for >> groovy >> droning noise stuff etc). >> >> What really amazes me however is... do you guys reall RE-learn all >> your >> scales and chords for all these different tunings? I mean, if you >> tune to >> this 5ths approach... how do you play a chord!!! Its taken me 33 >> years >> (since I first got a guitar) to learn a few girl guide chords, and >> a couple >> of bar chords.... one (ok two) scales, that I can slide up and >> down... but >> the thing that has stopped me REALLY getting into tuning is this... >> Do I >> really have to forget what I ever knew... and dedicate my life to a >> new >> tuning???? >> >> I myself have been using baritone guitar for 10 years, with a A based >> tuning, this gives me the LOWS I need for bass parts, and I use a >> lot of >> pitch shifting, and can go high enough... but this is still >> standard tuning >> basically, just tined down a bit... >> >> Have to try out this 5ths thing >> >> m >> >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net >> > >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Per Boysen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Anyone here on the list having tried tuning a guitar in fifths for >>>>> wider orchestration options? Or even wider intervals? Would make >>>>> sense >>>>> when looping to get lower bass and higher highs. I guess you >>>>> have to >>>>> pick a custom string set for this. >>>>> >>>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>>> >>>>> Per Boysen >>>>> www.boysen.se >>>>> www.perboysen.com >>> >>> >>> I have been tuning in straight fifths for the past 15 years or >>> so.... >>> >>> http://jpsongs.com/troubadortech/zwickrig.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ... >>> http://www.zmix.net >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> www.looop.no >> >