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Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers with Live?

that sound like something ive been wanting to do for a long time yet there 
is something missing...
yes David let us know it sounds really exciting!!
> Hm. Scripting in Mobius... sounds complicated but what
> isn't? I feel there's got to be a great solution in here for
> me (finally). The second I opened up Mobius (just now) and
> saw those familiar EDP functions I knew it was a missing
> piece of the puzzle..
> Between Mobius, Ableton Live 8, and Mainstage for software
> with a Rocktron Midi Mate foot pedal  for starting and
> stopping RMX parts individually as well as the EDP-like
> Mobius functions, a GCP for Live clip/sceen functions (now
> that there's a Bome's midi translator for mac), the x-tempo
> POK for various things like arrows, copy/paste, and
> duplicate functions where it makes sense (so I don't have to
> bank up and down all the time)---I think I'll finally be
> able to really nail my system down:
> --- Stylus RMX (along with others, but RMX as the base) for
> drums with independent parts stopped and started via feet.
> (I think RMX is acceptable live if it's played like an
> instrument w/ the feet.)
> --- Trilogy (and logic sound modules if using Mainstage)
> via EWI or Midi Guitar for bass (or a real bass ) layered
> over the drums
> --- Then guitar, vocals, sax, or midi sounds from NI Kore,
> Motu's Symphonic or Ethno instruments (among others) layered
> over the bass and drums.
> --- And, Livid Union with the Ohm controller and x-tempo
> POK (and sometimes EWI and Midi Guitar) for live video
> trigger/manipulation.
> Missing components were getting Stylus RMX to be foot
> controlled, Bome's Midi Translator for mac and the
> x-tempo-POK to ease foot control set up, and Mobius/Live8
> for true software looping functionality. All coming together
> now... it has to be.
> I think we're a few months away from a demo of some sort,
> people!... once I get everything playing well together.
> (I'm excited so I thought I'd share.) When I truly figure
> out the best set up and work flow (hardware, software, and
> musically speaking)  I will pass it on in full detail.
> On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I
> was looking for was a way
> >> to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part,
> taking the drum parts in and
> >> out with my footswitch and always being in time.
> All with the same basic
> >> work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo
> with first phrase would be a
> >> nice extra but not so important.
> > 
> > Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome, but I would
> guess that any
> > host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically stable
> enough for RMX
> > (please note this is a guess - if you are interested
> you should really
> > try it out to see if it works). RMX has always been
> stable for me when
> > the host is the sync master.
> > 
> > Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other
> musicians when we
> > were all using EDP's and the only down side is that
> you may have to
> > wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop
> (I sometimes
> > created a silent first loop, in the Brother Sync
> network, and then
> > filled it up with my playing, just to avoid bumps).
> It's just that for
> > the solo concerts I do it makes for a way better
> performance if never
> > having to watch the scrreen or wait for a cue... just
> get up there and
> > start playing, sort of. And I never use "drums" live
> if there is not a
> > drummer (laptopper or skin basher) on stage to play
> with me ;-))
> > (but I really love RMX for studio work!!!! Especially
> 1.7 for odd
> > measures)
> > 
> > About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive
> catch-up game. The sync
> > slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too
> slow until it
> > has already crossed the line and has to start
> adjusting to compensate
> > for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake
> from the other
> > direction... and vice versa... for eternity. TAlk
> about a "miserable
> > loop"! Good thing machines and software don't have
> feelings - they
> > would instantly implode into depression  ;-)
> > 
> > I use the host application for synced delays, reverb,
> synced tremolo
> > or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons like those I the
> rubber band
> > timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good enough. But for
> hard on-the-beat
> > sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting in
> Mobius. The reason
> > is that this will then be done in a rock solid timing
> > 
> > Per
> >