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cool man,so what do you have on your rack? right now i just have one EDP and the Rolls mixer in a 2 space rack but since i recently got a second EDP looks like my rack is going to get bigger(oh lord here we go again...) for the rack stuff i am thinking of getting a rackmount power supply to conect all the stuff,the drawback is that it takes a 1u. space,the way i have everything plugged in the back right now plus stuffing the cables is messy,i wish there was a halfrack because i dont need so many plugs...then have another half rack reverb fx proccesor to have the main outs of the mixer go through just for post proccesing or for a simple natural reverb trail when i stop the loops. on my pedalboard i have now a digitech Vocalist live 2,line 6 M9,boss OC-3 and the Adrenalinn III which i slave to the EDP and also sends a midi clock to the M9 for delay syncronization.Pretty happy so far,though id like to get a smaller midi controller than the FCB1010, like the Liquid foot Jr.check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwVy_nS87zo&feature=related it would sit better on my pedalboard than the gordius little giant,it seems it can control the EDP just as well.Then i can have it all on a pedalboard,but then i still have to find an AC DC power brick that would power all the stuff so i can get finally get rid of all those anoying power supplies! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> schrieb am Do, 15.10.2009: > Von: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> > Betreff: Re: AW: Alesis Multimix 8 Line. 1u mixer for looping. > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2009, 0:11 > Thanks Luis... that exact thing was what i > was worried about... right now i have the cheap behringer > 1U.. and i dont actually have any problems with it, just > that i was interested in being able to make my own signal > chain, of auxes and channels, and then save it to the box, > so the software DIDNT have to come too... live I dont take a > computer... > > > > > > But ease of use under stress, is very important to me, and > right now, a complete rewire of my gear is just as easy of > moving 2 patch cables in my patch bay so... maybe I stay > with this lo tech, hissy, buzzy and distorted set up... > maybe i cant blame the hiss or distortion on the behringer > anyway, but the edps... and the operator of course! > > > > > > M > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:03 AM, > L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > Mark, > > i had the Motu for a while and though the mixer is flexible > i found it very tedious manually though through the software > is obviously the way to do it.Some things i just prefer to > do manually! > > syncing mobious and the adrenalinn and sending program > changes to it with my FCB1010 was however a nightmare,as > soon as i started doing midi sync stuff i just could not get > it to work right,my presonus works flawless and is way > cheaper! > > > > > > then again try it and tell us your results > > cheers > > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> > schrieb am Mi, 14.10.2009: > > > > > Von: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> > > > Betreff: Re: AW: Alesis Multimix 8 Line. 1u mixer for > looping. > > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Datum: Mittwoch, 14. Oktober 2009, 11:17 > > > Further to this 1U discussion, has anyone > > > tried the Motu Traveller as a loopers mixer? It > seems to be > > > very interesting... but i dont have one, but am > thinking > > > about it ... alot.... > > > > > > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun05/articles/motutraveler.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:16 PM, > > > andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > hi Luis, (and loopers everywhere suffereing the > "mixer > > > problem") > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a really good look at the Alesis 8Line. > > > > > > > > > > > > The chips used are the cheapest op amps available for > > > audio. > > > > > > The construction is good enough, but not better than > > > Behringer > > > > > > ( held together by self tap screws). > > > > > > The "tech support" on the website never > replies > > > at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > As it's a line mixer though, the cheap chips only > have > > > to do 1:1 amplification, which means the sound > quality > > > doesn't suffer too much. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't consider it for studio use, but for > live > > > work I think it's > > > > > > going to scrape by. > > > > > > As for noise levels...less than the EDPs. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was able to successfully mod the 8Line so that the > mic > > > input, and > > > > > > one other, are sent to the FX send without going to > the > > > main mix. > > > > > > That's a very easy hack to do which makes the > mixer > > > loop friendly, > > > > > > just clipping a few wires. (plus of course the 3 days > to > > > work out > > > > > > which wires to clip because Alesis won't provide > > > docs). > > > > > > I also added switches for that, which is a bit harder, > but > > > allows a bit of flexibility. > > > > > > I reckon it wouldn't be hard to do other mods to > the > > > 8Line, luike re=routing > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know the Rolls stuff at all, don't > even > > > know if > > > > > > there's a European dealer. > > > > > > ...but I mailed their tech support to test them out on > your > > > behalf ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, those 2 mixers have very different feature > lists, > > > > > > surely that's the first consideration? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > andy butler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Angulo wrote: > > > > > > > > > hey Andy, > > > > > > Still investigating this. > > > > > > Which one do you think is better in terms of sound > quality > > > between this and the Rolls RM 65B? > > > > > > > > > > > > specs here for both > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rolls.com/pdf/DS_RM65.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.alesis.com/multimix8line > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this the ideal small mixer we've > > > > > > all been looking for? > > > > > > > > > > > > Alesis Multimix 8 Line. 1u mixer for looping. > > > > > > http://www.alesis.com/multimix8line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feature list and mini review. > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > > All connections on 1/4 unbalanced jacks unless > otherwise > > > > > > noted. > > > > > > 8 stereo/mono input channels, vol, balance, fx send > > > > > > *Stereo* FX send ( works with channel pan/balance, > for > > > each > > > > > > channel) > > > > > > stereo FX return (with vol control) > > > > > > Channel 1 switches to a mono microphone input, XLR, > no > > > > > > phantom. > > > > > > Main outs on balanced jacks with master vol. > > > > > > > > > > > > ..and some additional connections on *stereo* 1/4 in > jacks > > > > > > Monitor out...after master vol > > > > > > Mix out ...before master vol > > > > > > Input to main bus. > > > > > > Input to fx bus. > > > > > > (those last 3 are officially for daisy chaining 2 or > more > > > > > > units). > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments > > > > > > 1) stereo fx bus....that's very useful > > > > > > 2) seems well built, and sounds ok. Not noisy. > > > > > > 3) none of the controls has a 0dB calibration, which > makes > > > > > > set up that much harder. ( the cheap Behringer > > > > > > stuff often has this). Not really a problem. > > > > > > 4) the mic input sounds good enough for live work > with > > > good > > > > > > full range response. Not for studio though, > there's > > > > > > a distinctive quality/color to the transient > response, > > > and > > > > > > no 48V. > > > > > > 5) Mic pre-amp doesn't have an insert, and > there's > > > no way > > > > > > to make fx send pre fade. In simple terms > > > > > > this means you can't EQ the mic, or compress > it. > > > > > > (and can't use my Vortex patches!) > > > > > > 6) the additional connectors available give some > > > > > > scope for extra routing, as long as you > > > > > > don't mind using Y-cables. > > > > > > 7) neither of the 2 additional outputs has an > independent > > > > > > vol control, (such as would be useful for > > > > > > sending to Zoom H2 for recording) > > > > > > 8) there's no mixer schematic in the manual, > it's > > > printed > > > > > > on the top of the unit. Obviously > > > > > > when you rack the unit you no longer have the > > > > > > schematic which is the only way to see > > > > > > the mixer features at a glance. > > > > > > 9) Balanced outs means that you only need a couple of > jack > > > > > > to XLR converters and > > > > > > you're able to say " I have my own DI > box" > > > to any > > > > > > sound engineer you encounter when playing live. > > > > > > This reduces their anxiety about how to deal with > > > > > > your complex setup to zero. > > > > > > 10) no official way to make sends pre-fade, which > would > > > > > > make the unit much more usable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > > > Very nearly a neat way to route your looping gear, and > add > > > > > > a microphone > > > > > > with just a 1u unit. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't need to use the mic-pre there's > no > > > real minus > > > > > > points to the mixer, > > > > > > apart from lack of pre-fade sends. > > > > > > Sound quality is easily good enough for live work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Big disappointment is the implementation of the mic > input. > > > > > > There's no way to > > > > > > eq the mic, so unless you want a flat response, and > have a > > > > > > dynamic mic that > > > > > > will give that you can't really this mixer. Using > with > > > an > > > > > > SM58, for instance, will > > > > > > just give you that unclear boxy sound which is > normally > > > > > > filtered out at the desk. > > > > > > So, probably ok for announcements that no-one > understands. > > > > > > I'm ok, I have a Sennheiser 421 which works very > well > > > for > > > > > > feeding assorted > > > > > > acoustic sounds into the loops (on the fx send), but > those > > > > > > aren't exactly > > > > > > cheap. > > > > > > Generally, anyone looking to add a mic to their setup > ( or > > > > > > to remove a mic-pre > > > > > > to save weight/space) is going to be frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Further investigation. > > > > > > It must be possible to mod this unit so that > there's a > > > way > > > > > > to eq( or Vortex) the mic. > > > > > > but no service sheet available. > > > > > > > > > > > > I emailed Alesis tech support, US *and* UK and was > sent a > > > > > > pair of automated responses > > > > > > promising a reply within 2 days....about a week ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > andy butler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > Sie sind Spam leid? 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