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Re: Behringer FCB1010



I've used both the Behringer FCB1010 and the Stealth Pedal with
Mobius. I found the Stealth pedal easier to set up, but neither is
that easy. You'll have to match the numbers from the pedal controller
to Mobius. I found configuring the controller numbers straightforward
in both Mobius and the Stealth Pedal, but it took some head scratching
to get the FCB1010 set up. Mobius isn't as easy as something like
Ableton Live where you press the midi learn button, press the effect
you want to control and wiggle the peddle. That is, unless you are
using Mobius as a VST in Ableton live or some other host that has midi
learn.

There's going to be a learning curve, but that's what this mailing
list is for! Regardless of what you choose, you'll figure it out and
make it work.

The Stealth Pedal is limited to two switches, so if you want more it's
not a good choice.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe I should clarify where I'm coming from. I'm very new to looping and
> I'm not sure how far I'll go with it. Most people here are on a 
>completely
> different plane than me. I have a Boss RC-2 which I find, not only 
>limiting,
> but confusing. That should indicate my mental capacity for these kinds of
> devices. I immediately went out and bought an FS-6 for it and that at 
>least
> allowed me to step through loops, but having to bend down and save every
> loop in order to do that just doesn't seem conducive to live 
>improvisitation
> and puts a damper on creativity. I need something simple that will work 
>with
> Mobius. Mobius is going to take me a long time to master, I can see that 
>but
> that is the direction I want to go in, i.e. computer software.
>
> The Stealth Pedal looks like you can only have a couple of footswitches 
>with
> it. ? I suppose it would take some programming and dancing to get it to 
>deal
> with Mobius in a way that I could have several loops in different keys 
>and
> switch between them with one stomp.
>
> I thought the Behringer would be a good choice if I got a good price on a
> used one because I could always sell it again and not lose too much. I
> thought perhaps someone here might be moving up to the Stealth or Gordius
> and want to get rid of one. I've seen Boss and Yamaha boards in "Hard 
>Off",
> a well known chain of recycle shops in Japan, but they aren't as cheap 
>as a
> second hand 1010s over here.
> Thanks Art,
>
> PS. Do you have any videos showing what you do with your setup?
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> The Stealth Pedal connects directly to your computer with USB and
>> draws its power from that as well. I was a little surprised when I set
>> up at Y2K9 to realize that I only needed one power outlet for my
>> laptop, everything else got its power via USB, or ran as software.
>> Life with VSTs and USB devices has sure changed things. Definitely
>> simplifies your setup.
>>
>> Looks like the pedal itself runs for $200, not that much more than the
>> FCB1010.
>>
>> It's a small, minimal but flexible setup if that appeals to you. Let
>> me know if you get one, I'm happy to share what I've learned.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > This connects to your computer? I have the Boss FS-6, I think, that's
>> > the
>> > one with two footswitches.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Ed,
>> >>
>> >> I replaced my Behringer FCB1010 with the IK Multimedia StealthPedal, 
>a
>> >> Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio Universal expression
>> >> controller pedal. The whole setup cost about $285 and gives me two
>> >> expression pedals and two switches. It's a lot simpler than the
>> >> Behringer and doesn't require a midi intereface. Packs up much 
>smaller
>> >> too.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be
>> >> > purchased
>> >> > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I
>> >> > understand
>> >> > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime
>> >> > time. I
>> >> > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back
>> >> > pack,
>> >> > so
>> >> > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a 
>Boss?
>> >> > or
>> >> > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I
>> >> > can't
>> >> > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I 
>figured
>> >> > I'd
>> >> > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a  FAQ somewhere I read that it 
>is
>> >> > the
>> >> > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius.
>> >> > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get
>> >> > cracking
>> >> > on
>> >> > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep
>> >> > finding
>> >> > that
>> >> > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling
>> >> > new
>> >> > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone
>> >> > here
>> >> > is
>> >> > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware).
>> >> > TIA
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Art Simon
>> >> simart@gmail.com
>> >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Art Simon
>> simart@gmail.com
>> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>>
>
>



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