I see why and from my perspective it would be more value to for example record MIDI to a squencer and have the sequencer control a synth than to directly play synth sound with the guitar. If I want the guitar to sound like a synth I prefer to keep using the guitar waveform and mangle that than to trigger a oscillator or an other waveform. So I would be more happy with an excellent guitar to.. but I do understand both needs..
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:59:58 -0600
> Subject: Re: Roland gr55
> From: firstname.lastname@example.org
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Well-said, Mark … the lag/lack of efficiency from using a GI-20 to get
> MIDI into a synth module isn't hideous (haven't really objectively
> tested it) and suspect it's about on par with going straight to a GR-1
> or GR-20 (I've run both). And using the VG-8 is about the same.
> So the idea of getting some floor space back by not having both a GR-1
> AND a VG-8 would be nice (I'd still use a US-20 to split things off to
> the GI-20 — I LIKE having a full-blown synth module being driven by
> the guitar …).
> Anders, do you see why now?
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:51 PM, mark francombe <email@example.com> wrote:
> > Yeah you are missing a few things Anders.
> > Firstly, there are very few 12 string pickups like the GK2 and 3 to choose
> > from, there Rolan and Axon (an one more I believe) Both need a machine to
> > plug into, No, its not midi coming out of that pickup... yet. The guitar
> > synth is the bit that will do that for you, and in a large way is the bit
> > that can affect the tracking and response of the midi information. From that
> > box you CAN connect to a synth, but in my experience there has been a
> > greater lag and even less response.
> > The OTHER hex route is the VG style boxes.
> > The reasone why we are all getting hot under the collar about the GR55 is
> > that its the first box to combine both systems.
> > So convenience... I think that is what this synth seems to offer.
> > Personally if I can use it for rudimentory guitar sounds (distortions and
> > reverbs) as well as the synth stuff, it frees up some space in the rack for
> > more weirdness...
> > <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > I can see anuy knobs on the gr55 that allows for fun realtime manipulations
> > of LFO's, filters and other fun stuff..
> > er.. it has a pedal?
> > :-))
> > M
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Anders Bergdahl
> > <email@example.com> wrote:
> >> Why would one want a guitar synth and not an MIDI interface to any of the
> >> many great synths out there... I can see anuy knobs on the gr55 that allows
> >> for fun realtime manipulations of LFO's, filters and other fun stuff..
> >> Or am I missing something..
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: firstname.lastname@example.org
> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >> Subject: Re: Roland gr55
> >> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:31:37 -0700
> >> Also Sprach Mark
> >> Quite interesting read Hans, actually most are a little disappointed with
> >> the sounds. Im not too bothered by that tho, cos Ive never had a synth that
> >> did have good presets. My trusty GR30 took years to get to what I have now
> >> 10 usable patches. And back to arps... What is with that? On the Gr 30 there
> >> was this amazing Arpegiator, that is a staple for me, I use it everyday, and
> >> Ive still yet to try the Walker repeater trick (due to needing 2 midi merge
> >> boxes to do it).
> >> I couldn't agree more though I haven't used mine in sometime, the gr30's
> >> arpeggiator and what it could do to drive my repeater was totally
> >> responsible for some of the things I was doing 7 years ago. All the
> >> impossible to play arpeggio stuff was using the gr as an arp trigger for the
> >> repeater, to make single note samples behave polyphonically with a wild
> >> natural portamento between notes, however limited the sound engine was the
> >> arpeggiator did and still does kick ass, simple to program easy to use. Re
> >> GR55, I will investigate further but I believe you are right, any
> >> arpeggiation is patch specific and non programmable. Haven't had much time
> >> on one personally, they have trickled in and sold quickly.
> >> Bill
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