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Yeah I tend to prefer noise rock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who improvise with feedback and dissonance, over songs that were written with a specific harmony/tuning being played in super neo tuning -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:27:27 am To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all! If you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. maybe not, but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and look carefully into your eyes. If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much more important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G string is loose (might get a laugh tho). I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound of dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect, But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the link posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids of Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical relationships... The audience thinks your are our of tune dude! Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think are interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there are a few related things. The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god they have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely adore, one of the best albums ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=related And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination Enterprise, where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning that he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out of tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it,