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RE: guitarists: triple play?



I have a set of foot pedals that I use for such purposes, but playing in the soprano range. If you've ever learned an organ pedal part it's surprisingly easy

> Subject: Re: guitarists: triple play?
> From: 3x09@carlsonarts.com
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 22:39:35 -0600
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Or, perhaps by using a harmonizer controlled by a second player on keys, or a prepared polyphonic MIDI track the monophonic line could become harmony in the first layer of the loop.
>
> Peace and Adventure!
>
> Michael Carlson
>
> On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've started with "MIDI guitar" in the late eighties, with the first
> > models and have recently been using the GR-55 (+ GK3 pickups), but I
> > still prefer none of that but rather playing my usual audio signal
> > into some audio-to-waveform converter. These are available as software
> > plugins for those who play through a computer and then there are some
> > new digital amps sporting these algorithms as well. This gives you a
> > direct monophonic synth tone with immediate musicality, i.e. no
> > latency and accurately following how you're shaping the tone on the
> > physical instrument.
> >
> > Some might not like playing monophonic lines but I think that's great
> > for live looping because in a few seconds you can build any chord in a
> > looper by layering the required number of notes.
> >
> > Greetings from Sweden
> >
> > Per Boysen
> > www.perboysen.com
> > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:45 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 05/01/2015 09:35, Diarmuid Pigott wrote:
> >>
> >>> My own experience of MIDI from strings is that the detection of vibrato
> >>> and bend and gliss is pretty much
> >>> dependant on the MIDI instrument I am using.
> >>
> >>
> >> I think there's a bit of a miss-conception going around.
> >>
> >> The Midi instrument actually has nothing to do with detection,
> >> it only responds to midi commands.
> >> By then the detection is already done.
> >> What *is* important is that the Midi instrument needs to respond
> >> correctly in order to interpret the pitch information correctly.
> >> i.e. the amount of pitch change in response to MidiPitchBend has to be set
> >> correctly.
> >> That's actually rather trivial to set up, as long as the midi instrument
> >> supports it.
> >>
> >> For a device like the Fishman the situation is a bit different, in that
> >> there may be processing of the audio from the pickup.
> >> In that case it's obviously possible to pass the audio in some form and
> >> get what seems like "perfect tracking", when no tracking has been needed.
> >>
> >> For note detection there's an absolute limit that's never going to be
> >> beaten.
> >> I look at it from a slightly different angle to the usual idea of note
> >> frequencies.
> >> The impulse from plucking the string has to travel up to the fret and back
> >> to the pickup
> >> before it's possible to calculate which fret was used.
> >>
> >> Using that way of looking at things the Axon system can make a the quickest
> >> possible
> >> guess at what the note played is, then it uses a more regular analysis to
> >> measure
> >> the frequency. Should the initial guess be wrong a correction is made to the
> >> Note-On
> >> that was sent using MidiPitchBend.
> >> As the Axon system is patented then it kind of looks like no-ones going to
> >> get
> >> faster tracking without licensing it.
> >>
> >> Warbling on a sustained note occurs when the fundamental of the note fades
> >> before the harmonics,
> >> so on some instruments there'll be one or two notes that warble every time.
> >> Just down to the resonance of the instrument.
> >> If the instrument is specially designed to work with midi convertion I
> >> suspect
> >> they spend a lot of time working removing any 'bad notes'.
> >>
> >> If there's going to be any improvement over the Axon system it won't
> >> be in fast detection of the note, but rather in the ability to
> >> keep tracking a note as it dies away.
> >>
> >>
> >> andy
> >> ps. for playing around, the monophonic devices by Sonuus have somewhat
> >> slower note
> >> detection but are fairly warble resistant.
> >>
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