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>From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)"
>
>db wrote:
>"anyone use the Electrix Filter Queen and/or Factory? I have a filter
>queen>and i love her."
>
>
>I adore my Electrix Filter Factory. I bought both the Filter Queen and
>the>Filter Factory to compare them and then returned the
>Filter Queen. If you've got the dough to afford it, it really rocks,
>especially for Live Looping Artists because of it's ability to synd LFO
>speeds to midi in/and/or send out LFO 'clock' to midi ready loopers.
>try it, you'll like it, yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool)
>
the reason that the queen won out for me is that because i'm a guitarist and
the queen has an expression pedal input that the factory doesn't. i like
being able to tweak the freq while making strange noises on the guitar. this
way i got both hands free to work the gtr while messing with the freq with
me foot.
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At 6:20 PM -0700 4/30/01, Catharsis wrote:
>>Did you talk to Lou Harrison? How is he doing?
>
>In passing yes.. I am new to this area, so I basically smiled and
>said, "hello". He seems to be doing well for being 84 or 85.
Lou is a truly great person. I've known him since 1976 when I audited
his class in world music at San Jose State, and until the early '90s
I'd see him every summer at the Cabrillo Music Festival. He recently
lost his life partner, Bill Colvig, so it's good to know he's
carrying on with energy and good spirit.
>Say, I just came across a small quote from you in Joel Chadabe's
>Electric Sound. Heh heh.. It is funny as when I read it I thought,
>"hey, I know that guy: he is a looper!" ;)
If you hang out long enough you eventually end up in books. I have
small mentions in a couple of them, in connection with my Max
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anti-clockwise
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a nice review of this neat sounding ax at www.harmony-central.com
just one more thing i need.....:).....michael
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a nice review of this neat sounding ax at www.harmony-central.com
just one more thing i need.....:).....michael
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Matthias,
I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's live inputs and some
delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software looper system!
Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the input, then assigned 4
buss sends,
each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2 Tap Delay...On the
delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4 notes delay, with
100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by enabling any of
the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio loop, and then
mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add other plugins, without
disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing.
The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop that syncs to midi.
Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300.
This is a great example of how flexible Logic can be.
Cheers,
Jeff
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> >I'm very interested in your application. I have yet to find a software
> >looper that actually works the way I think it should. I was able to make
> >Logic Audio work as a great looper though, in sync with midi and
everything,
>
> Jeff,
>
> Did you ever explain to us what you can do? I find that very interesting.
>
> After all, there is a PowerBook G3 on the way here!
>
> And lately I heard from several people that the ended up liking Logic
> better than Performer for the flexibility.
> Would you say that what you do with Logic is impossible with any other
App?
>
> Thank you
> Matthias
> --
>
>
> ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org
>
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oh, rats. i HATE when i does thats...
a:c @ pink pony on
SATURDAY nite which is
may 5 as in f-i-v-e, the first saturday of may in 2001,
and which coincidentally is also alright for fighting.
it's also alright for lighting. i did not mention that again
i have the amazing good fortune to be accompanied by
visualist chris jordan at this show.
xo
rbrt
originally i had said:
>the pink pony presents
>
>anti:clockwise
>
>saturday may xx 10.00 pm
and you asked :
>May 4 is a Friday -- is it Friday or Saturday night?
++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin
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oh, rats. i HATE when i does thats...
a:c @ pink pony on
SATURDAY nite which is
may 5 as in f-i-v-e, the first saturday of may in 2001,
and which coincidentally is also alright for fighting.
it's also alright for lighting. i did not mention that again
i have the amazing good fortune to be accompanied by
visualist chris jordan at this show.
xo
rbrt
originally i had said:
>the pink pony presents
>
>anti:clockwise
>
>saturday may xx 10.00 pm
and you asked :
>May 4 is a Friday -- is it Friday or Saturday night?
++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin
url
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Anybody heard any news about Alesis filing Chapter 11?
Kinda sad news to hear from the folks that single-handedly gave us the ADAT.
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Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth
(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more.
? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths
sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end
of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot
of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll be bought up
by Gibson in any case.
Mark
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> Anybody heard any news about Alesis filing Chapter 11?
> Kinda sad news to hear from the folks that single-handedly gave us the ADAT.
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>Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth
>(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more.
>? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths
>sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end
>of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot
>of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll
>be bought up
>by Gibson in any case.
so where does one find these things out for sure?
is there a good music industry news website that would
have this stuff??
/t
...electronic a cappella madness .........
...extreme internet radio ...
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All Access some times carries that sort of information (not always, by
far).
http://www.allaccess.com
Regards,
Luke
On Tue, 1 May 2001, Tom Ritchford wrote:
> >Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth
> >(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more.
> >? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths
> >sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end
> >of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot
> >of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll
> >be bought up
> >by Gibson in any case.
>
> so where does one find these things out for sure?
>
> is there a good music industry news website that would
> have this stuff??
>
> /t
>
>
> ...electronic a cappella madness .........
> ...extreme internet radio ...
>
>
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Alesis Reorganization Underway
April 4, 2001 -- The Alesis Corporation announced a company-wide=20
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smooth launch of their newly introduced product line.=20
Jim Mack, Alesis Vice President of Sales and Marketing said, "A very=20
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guarantee the necessary resources for a strong product launch later this=20
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originally developed jointly by Alesis and Groove Tubes under Alesis=E2=80=
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Alesis will also be handing off the DMPro Drum Kit to HART Dynamics. HART=20
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John Maier, Director of Marketing Communication said, "Hart Dynamics=E2=80=
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years."
On the heels of a new marketing campaign dubbed, "The Re-Evolution of Music,=
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Alesis recently introduced fourteen new products within a four month period.=
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Among the new innovations is the groundbreaking trio of the A6 Andromeda 16=20
voice real analog synthesizer, the ADAT HD24 hard disk recorder and the=20
ProLinear 820 Customizable DSP studio monitors.=20
Also introduced were entirely new product categories including the airFX and=
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processors, RA series amplifiers, and Ineko personal effects processor.=20
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Jeff,
Can the enabling of the buss sends or muting of the
tracks or delays be accomplished through midi (foot
pedal, for instance)?
Can you envision how a similar Logic setup could be
created to do this for midi looping?
The reason I'm asking is that I'm seriously toying
with the idea of switching from Windoze/Cakewalk to
Mac/Logic, and before I do, I'd like to understand
Logic's midi looping / midi control capabilities for
live usage.
Thanks,
stephen
--- Jeff van Dyck wrote:
> Matthias,
>
> I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's
> live inputs and some
> delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software
> looper system!
>
> Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the
> input, then assigned 4
> buss sends,
> each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2
> Tap Delay...On the
> delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4
> notes delay, with
> 100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by
> enabling any of
> the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio
> loop, and then
> mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add
> other plugins, without
> disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing.
>
> The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop
> that syncs to midi.
> Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300.
>
> This is a great example of how flexible Logic can
> be.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
=====
Stephen
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Logic is very deep and powerful in its control potential, esp with midi,
with real-time features that are very cool. Esp neat is the ability to
trigger different sequences in real-time via midi note ons.
A great resource is the mail-list and archives at yahoo groups.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users
And there's several links at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/links
All the audio and midi mixer settings are controllable via midi. Its just a
matter of rolling up your sleeves to learn the system. one of the beauties
of Logic is how you can easily transform any midi message to another for
control, so you don't have to fudge around with your hardware foot pedals or
sliders much, you simply map the msgs to whatever you desire and route via
patchcords to audio channels and/or midi instrument channels in Logics
Environment.
The main problem I've found is the seduction of all the softsynths, VST
effects and especially the EXS24 sampler that runs in Logic. These are
incredible tools, irresistable and addictive and the NEW paradigm for
electronic music. And these are demanding on CPU cycles in the computer. I
need a new computer.
Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen [mailto:dakshah@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:51 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> Can the enabling of the buss sends or muting of the
> tracks or delays be accomplished through midi (foot
> pedal, for instance)?
>
> Can you envision how a similar Logic setup could be
> created to do this for midi looping?
>
> The reason I'm asking is that I'm seriously toying
> with the idea of switching from Windoze/Cakewalk to
> Mac/Logic, and before I do, I'd like to understand
> Logic's midi looping / midi control capabilities for
> live usage.
>
> Thanks,
>
> stephen
>
> --- Jeff van Dyck wrote:
> > Matthias,
> >
> > I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's
> > live inputs and some
> > delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software
> > looper system!
> >
> > Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the
> > input, then assigned 4
> > buss sends,
> > each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2
> > Tap Delay...On the
> > delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4
> > notes delay, with
> > 100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by
> > enabling any of
> > the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio
> > loop, and then
> > mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add
> > other plugins, without
> > disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing.
> >
> > The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop
> > that syncs to midi.
> > Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300.
> >
> > This is a great example of how flexible Logic can
> > be.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jeff
>
>
> =====
> Stephen
>
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Alesis has officially filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. They must have
put too much into the development of the new products!? More information
to follow as I get it.
Be Well
Will Brake
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Luke Davis wrote:
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> All Access some times carries that sort of information (not always, by
> far).
>
> http://www.allaccess.com
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> Regards,
>
> Luke
>
> On Tue, 1 May 2001, Tom Ritchford wrote:
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> > >Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth
> > >(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more.
> > >? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths
> > >sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end
> > >of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot
> > >of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll
> > >be bought up
> > >by Gibson in any case.
> >
> > so where does one find these things out for sure?
> >
> > is there a good music industry news website that would
> > have this stuff??
> >
> > /t
> >
> >
> > ...electronic a cappella madness .........
> > ...extreme internet radio ...
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Sorry if this is way off topic, but I'm building an electronic drumset. I've
created a ten pad version of the octa pad and I'm making my own bass drum
trigger.
The thing that has me stumped is the hihat. Hihat control pedals cost a fare
share of $$$ and my only alternative is a keyboard sustain pedal. I tried
this, but it is not touch sensitive so there is only one velocity for the
closing hihat sound. This isn't good.
Does anyone know how I would go about making my own hihat control pedal that
is touch sensitive. Or someway to make a keyboard sustain pedal touch
sensitive.
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Sorry if this is way off topic, but I'm building an electronic drumset. I've
created a ten pad version of the octa pad and I'm making my own bass drum
trigger.
The thing that has me stumped is the hihat. Hihat control pedals cost a fare
share of $$$ and my only alternative is a keyboard sustain pedal. I tried
this, but it is not touch sensitive so there is only one velocity for the
closing hihat sound. This isn't good.
Does anyone know how I would go about making my own hihat control pedal that
is touch sensitive. Or someway to make a keyboard sustain pedal touch
sensitive.
Thanks a bunch,
PASCAL
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I hope this is not the start of a trend like last year's Dotcom bust.
wbrake wrote:
>
> Alesis has officially filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. They must have
> put too much into the development of the new products!? More information
> to follow as I get it.
>
> Be Well
>
> Will Brake
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>I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's live inputs and some
>delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software looper system!
>
>Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the input, then assigned 4
>buss sends,
>each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2 Tap Delay...On the
>delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4 notes delay, with
>100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by enabling any of
>the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio loop, and then
>mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add other plugins, without
>disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing.
Great, seems simple... and you have it all pedal controlled?
How do you control the 4 FeedBacks? I just tried POLAR and thought
that this would be my problem with it.
How about the initial speed, you tap it?
>The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop that syncs to midi.
>Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300.
amazing... do you use it just for the delays or listen the original
sound through it, too? Any special buffer... settings?
>This is a great example of how flexible Logic can be.
but as I understand, this could be done in some other app, too, right?
Thank you for this report, Jeff... go ahead...
Matthias
> > >I'm very interested in your application. I have yet to find a software
>> >looper that actually works the way I think it should. I was able to make
>> >Logic Audio work as a great looper though, in sync with midi and
>everything,
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> Did you ever explain to us what you can do? I find that very interesting.
>>
>> After all, there is a PowerBook G3 on the way here!
>>
>> And lately I heard from several people that the ended up liking Logic
>> better than Performer for the flexibility.
> > Would you say that what you do with Logic is impossible with other Apps?
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where you can save the visualisation to an .avi file?
I am doing a couple of solo wind-synth projects where I would like to add a
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Hi there. Maybe a Wah or Volume pedal could be used If you can make the =
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Anyway just an idea, good luck
Bobski
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hypercam from
www.hyperionics.com
does that.
I recorded 4 hours nonstop of winamp the other week, stress testing the
software (and the hard drives :>) for my work.
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> Does anyone know of a Windows program like WinAmp or Windows media player,
> where you can save the visualisation to an .avi file?
>
> I am doing a couple of solo wind-synth projects where I would like to add
a
> visual element. I can do it in real time using a mic and winamp, but I
> would like to produce a cd/dvd
>
>
> --
> Martin
>
> --
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> A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five - Groucho
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>
>
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Yes they can, you just have to set it up in Logic's Environment. Bit of a
learning curve, but very usefull to know. I use Logic for abosolutly
everything...composition, movie posting, performing...and now looping.
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> Jeff,
>
> Can the enabling of the buss sends or muting of the
> tracks or delays be accomplished through midi (foot
> pedal, for instance)?
>
> Can you envision how a similar Logic setup could be
> created to do this for midi looping?
>
> The reason I'm asking is that I'm seriously toying
> with the idea of switching from Windoze/Cakewalk to
> Mac/Logic, and before I do, I'd like to understand
> Logic's midi looping / midi control capabilities for
> live usage.
>
> Thanks,
>
> stephen
>
> --- Jeff van Dyck wrote:
> > Matthias,
> >
> > I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's
> > live inputs and some
> > delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software
> > looper system!
> >
> > Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the
> > input, then assigned 4
> > buss sends,
> > each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2
> > Tap Delay...On the
> > delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4
> > notes delay, with
> > 100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by
> > enabling any of
> > the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio
> > loop, and then
> > mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add
> > other plugins, without
> > disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing.
> >
> > The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop
> > that syncs to midi.
> > Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300.
> >
> > This is a great example of how flexible Logic can
> > be.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jeff
>
>
> =====
> Stephen
>
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Is anybody using an Eventide Orville for looping?
Scott Gilfix has created a great many looping programs for it, and I
made a 4-track looper that is also part of the factory set. These
are all delay-based systems with options for pedal control.
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Hi Jon,
It's actually quite easy to make the pads. I purchased piezo sensors off of
ebay.com. ((If you know where to get piezo sensors in bulk please let me
know)). Anyway, here's what I did:
What you need:
Open-celled foam rubber (mouse pad material) at least 1/8th inch thick.
Plain sheet of rubber 1/8th inch thick
Piezo buzzer element
Rubber Cement.
I took open-celled foam rubber and cut a little place for the sensor to fit
in and for the connector wire. Then I took a sheet plain rubber cut the same
size as the open-celled foam rubber and used the rubber cement to keep it on
the foam rubber. I made sure to glue the piezo sensor to the rubber sheet so
that it didn't bounce around in the space i had cut for it. I made ten of
these and glued each one on to a plain piece of wood. The reason for the
foam rubber is that it iolates each pad from the others, and keeps false
triggering from occuring.
That's how I did it. There are plenty of methods you can more out by just
search drum triggers on google.com
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Hi Jon,
It's actually quite easy to make the pads. I purchased piezo sensors off of
ebay.com. ((If you know where to get piezo sensors in bulk please let me
know)). Anyway, here's what I did:
What you need:
Open-celled foam rubber (mouse pad material) at least 1/8th inch thick.
Plain sheet of rubber 1/8th inch thick
Piezo buzzer element
Rubber Cement.
I took open-celled foam rubber and cut a little place for the sensor to fit
in and for the connector wire. Then I took a sheet plain rubber cut the same
size as the open-celled foam rubber and used the rubber cement to keep it on
the foam rubber. I made sure to glue the piezo sensor to the rubber sheet so
that it didn't bounce around in the space i had cut for it. I made ten of
these and glued each one on to a plain piece of wood. The reason for the
foam rubber is that it iolates each pad from the others, and keeps false
triggering from occuring.
That's how I did it. There are plenty of methods you can more out by just
search drum triggers on google.com
-Pascal
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> Great, seems simple... and you have it all pedal controlled?
not yet.
> How do you control the 4 FeedBacks?
I've set them to 100% so they repeat infinitly. I can clear any of the
delays by just bypassing that particular delay. If I want to mute a delay, I
just mute the track that it's on. I can also solo that track...remixing on
the fly is easy.
> How about the initial speed, you tap it?
I set it by typing a value, but the waves supertap plugin has a tap button
on it.
> amazing... do you use it just for the delays or listen the original
> sound through it, too?
I monitor through it too.
> Any special buffer... settings?
Keep the buffer as small as possible, it makes the latency go away.
> but as I understand, this could be done in some other app, too, right?
Yes, should be able to...but I'm not sure if the other apps will work as
smoothly...anyone with Cubase wanna give this a go?
Lastly, if there are any VST programmers out there...if one of you could
make a simple really long stereo delay plugin that uses the tempo from the
sequencer and has infinite feedback, this would work better than the waves
supertap, as the waves plugin has a lot of extra features that aren't needed
for looping. Would be great if you could set the length in bars.
Cheers,
Jeff
>
> > > >I'm very interested in your application. I have yet to find a
software
> >> >looper that actually works the way I think it should. I was able to
make
> >> >Logic Audio work as a great looper though, in sync with midi and
> >everything,
> >>
> >> Jeff,
> >>
> >> Did you ever explain to us what you can do? I find that very
interesting.
> >>
> >> After all, there is a PowerBook G3 on the way here!
> >>
> >> And lately I heard from several people that the ended up liking Logic
> >> better than Performer for the flexibility.
> > > Would you say that what you do with Logic is impossible with other
Apps?
> --
>
>
> ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org
>
>
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Just great. Now the Andromeda will NEVER be affordable.
> Alesis has officially filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. They must have
> put too much into the development of the new products!? More information
> to follow as I get it.
>
> Be Well
>
> Will Brake
> Soul Fruit
>
> Luke Davis wrote:
> >
> > All Access some times carries that sort of information (not always, by
> > far).
> >
> > http://www.allaccess.com
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Luke
> >
> > On Tue, 1 May 2001, Tom Ritchford wrote:
> >
> > > >Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air
Synth
> > > >(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably
no more.
> > > >? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of
Air Synths
> > > >sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day?
(the IR end
> > > >of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I
noticed a lot
> > > >of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll
> > > >be bought up
> > > >by Gibson in any case.
> > >
> > > so where does one find these things out for sure?
> > >
> > > is there a good music industry news website that would
> > > have this stuff??
> > >
> > > /t
> > >
> > >
> > > ...electronic a cappella madness .........
> > > ...extreme internet radio ...
> > >
> > >
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>Just great. Now the Andromeda will NEVER be affordable.
funny, I was thinking just the reverse... now I can get
an Andromeda at fire-sale prices!
/t
...electronic a cappella madness .........
...extreme internet radio ...
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On 5/2/01 at 8:58 AM, jdyck@bigpond.net.au (Jeff van Dyck) wrote:
> Lastly, if there are any VST programmers out there...if one of you could
> make a simple really long stereo delay plugin that uses the tempo from the
> sequencer and has infinite feedback, this would work better than the waves
> supertap, as the waves plugin has a lot of extra features that aren't needed
> for looping. Would be great if you could set the length in bars.
I think there are some issues regarding host-sync support from within Logic's
VST implementation which could make this a little tricky, at least as far as
writing VST plugins with MSP and pluggo goes. Hopefully Emagic will have this
sorted out with Logic 5. I'm looking forward to Rewire with MSP 2.
L8r
A
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Andrew, I copied this off of the Emagic website...
VST Plug-in Optimizations
- VST 2.0 instruments can now receive VST clock information, making it
possible to perfectly synchronize delays, LFOs and other effects to the song
tempo. Note that the plug-in must request this information from Logic, and
that not all plug-ins do this. Check with the plug-in manufacturer to see if
this functionality applies to the particular plug-in used.
- Internal programs of VST2.0 instruments can now be changed via standard
program change commands.
- The maximum number of VST plug-ins that can be installed has been
increased.
- "All notes off" message sent to Audio Instruments after pressing STOP.
Seems they've fixed it eh?
Jeff
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> On 5/2/01 at 8:58 AM, jdyck@bigpond.net.au (Jeff van Dyck) wrote:
>
> > Lastly, if there are any VST programmers out there...if one of you could
> > make a simple really long stereo delay plugin that uses the tempo from
the
> > sequencer and has infinite feedback, this would work better than the
waves
> > supertap, as the waves plugin has a lot of extra features that aren't
needed
> > for looping. Would be great if you could set the length in bars.
>
>
> I think there are some issues regarding host-sync support from within
Logic's
> VST implementation which could make this a little tricky, at least as far
as
> writing VST plugins with MSP and pluggo goes. Hopefully Emagic will have
this
> sorted out with Logic 5. I'm looking forward to Rewire with MSP 2.
>
> L8r
>
> A
>
>
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Man, I really would hate to see Alesis go under. They've developed some
really great and affordable products over the years.
I still use my Alesis Quadraverb. I even have a Midiverb II in my rack (not
hooked up though).
Regards, Paul
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Hello,
I'm looking for a CD manufacturer with the best price. If anybody has any
ideas please e-mail me privately.
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The hi hat idea sounds cool, but my intentions for my electronic set is to
make as much like a real drum set but still staying as far away from the size
and bulkiness of a drum set. So rigging up a real hi hat is not what I'm
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The hi hat idea sounds cool, but my intentions for my electronic set is to
make as much like a real drum set but still staying as far away from the size
and bulkiness of a drum set. So rigging up a real hi hat is not what I'm
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WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to
New Age Voice and CD Revolutions for April, 2001.
Shows #210 to #213; 29-March-2001 to 19-April-2001
Reported in non-ranked order.
Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net
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ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
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Alpha Wave Movement & Jim Cole - Bislama - Spectral Spiral
Baird Hersey - Waking the Cobra - Hersey Music
Boddy, Reuter, & Mullaney - Triptych - DiN
Dom F. Scab - Binary Sevrets - Groove
Dweller at the Threshold - Advance CDR - none
Free System Projekt & Dave Brewer - Okefenokee Dreams - Groove
James Johnson - Entering Twilight - Hypnos
James Johnson - Linger - SpaceForMusic.com
James Johnson and Stephen Philips - Lost at Dunn's Lake - Zero Music
Keller & Schowalder - The Reason Why - Manikin
Navigator - Navigator II - not yet released
Numina - CDR from the artist - none
RAMP - Nodular - Manikin
Robert Rich - Somnium - Hypnos
Robert Scott Thompson - In Ruins - Aucourant
Stephanie Sante - Immaculate Conceptions - mp3.com
van Zyl, Gulch, & Rath- The Sound Museum - Groove
Various Artists - ambient.01@hyperreal - none
Victor Cerullo - Loneflyer - Groove
Vir Unis - Pulse N Atmo - Groove
Bill billfox@fast.net
http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html
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Hi all,
I'm looking for piezo sensors both the buzzer kind and the strip. Does
anyone know where I can get them? Radio Shack doesn't carry them anymore.
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Hi all,
I'm looking for piezo sensors both the buzzer kind and the strip. Does
anyone know where I can get them? Radio Shack doesn't carry them anymore.
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yeah, I made my own pads as well, I used the remo tunable head practice
pads for a pretty realistic feel although they do have a good bit of
self noise
the little 4" one makes a great kick drum pad
I looked into making my own hat controller and well, naaaah
I picked up one of the roland hat controllers on ebay for a very good
deal and it works very well, I think it was @ $75 but hinestly I don't
remember
but it was definately one of those times when the time and energy spent
on DIY didn't warrant the dollars saved
the roland unit works great, check what its currently drawing in the
used market and consider it
peace, steve
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In several months I plan on selling my Alesis Midiverb IV on Ebay for $1000 and then buying a new harddrive, a keyboard rack for my Casio SK-1's so I can look cool onstage with them, and maybe even a Casio SK-5.
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you can get them from mouser electronics and most other sellors of
electronic parts
t
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I found the Loop Station for sale for $299 at musictoyz. I have
had good experiences with them in the past.
http://www.musictoystore.com/bosstwin.htm
cheers,
dave
http://www.skyeklad.com/
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Hi,
we make a little sensor gadget that fits under a real HH pedal that you can
plug into a drum brain. It's a pressure sensor actually and can be played
without the pedal itself. Might work for you?
tnx,
harveyS
At 09:05 PM 5/1/01 EDT, you wrote:
>The hi hat idea sounds cool, but my intentions for my electronic set is to
>make as much like a real drum set but still staying as far away from the
size
> So rigging up a real hi hat is not what I'm
>looking for.
>-Pascal
http://www.starrlabs.com
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check out http://www.pncd-arts.com/ good prices even with shipping , they
are a canadian company but decent product if you get 500 or more cd's, if
you get cd-r's they don't have the time to dea with it. Ask for dave knill
and tell him denis sent you, he usually can give you this special they
run...Well I was pleased with their work anyway.
Denis
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Hello,
I'm looking for a CD manufacturer with the best price. If anybody has
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ideas please e-mail me privately.
Thanks, James
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Somehow I don't think going Chapter 11 spells the end for Alesis. However I
don't know how much less service any of us could get on our MIDIVerbs or
Quadraverbs (I've got one of the latter since '92 and love it!), under this
current situation. Alesis told me that they operate through Authorized
Service Centers - third parties - and I doubt if they'll suddenly stop doing
work on our beloved equipment. That knowledge on technicians' parts won't
just go away either, so I don't think we have much to fear in the service
area.
Stephen Goodman
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Wow, how coincidental, I was just jamming with fellow Delightful Looper,
Trey Donovan tonight and he mentioned that Lou
is currently building a straw bale house somewhere up north.
What an amazing, amazing human being! I love the suite he composed
for John Cage's piece for Toy Piano. I also saw it at the
inspiring Cabrillo Music Festival. Anybody know if it is recorded or not?
Rick Walker (loop.pool)
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Pascal wrote:
"I'm looking for piezo sensors both the buzzer kind and the strip. Does
anyone know where I can get them? Radio Shack doesn't carry them anymore."
Au Contraire, mon frere!!!! I just bought some piezo buzzers from my
local Radio Shack this week. Call around to a few stores, I'm sure you
can still find them. If not, contact me and I'll try to pick some up for
you. There cheap: maybe $3-$6 apiece.
I'm at
412 Darwin Street
Santa Cruz, California
95062-2629
You buy the buzzers, carefully break the plastic casing away and then
disconnect the piezo element form the
little circuit board. Connect to a female 1/4" connector and, voila,
instant $100 guitar (or saz or ud or gopichancd)
pickup.
good luck, Rick Walker (loop.pool)
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You can also just go to Radio Shack.
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Try http://www.brduplication.com/
They do good business and can help you out! Tell em' I sent ya!
Be Well
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Well alesis has not put out a new drum machine in at least 10 years if nto
mroe. the sr-16 has been around for at least 10 years with no improvement or
upgrade or new model. I am not surprised that they are declaring chapt.11
Denis
Denis Taaffe
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Somehow I don't think going Chapter 11 spells the end for Alesis.
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seemed to me alesis quit making drum machines around the time the demand
for them dramatically dropped off, I thought switching to the DM series
made sense for most folks.
I suspect the decline in adat sales has more to do with it, there was a
time when it was the ONLY affordable choice and every musician on a
budget wanted one. I've always had mixed feeling about thier products
but I would hate to see the co disappear they've been a positive force
in the industry, w/o co's like alesis and mackie inovation suffers and
prices rise.
heres to hoping they stay afloat or restructure in a new form
peace, t
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if i may cite a source known to most w/out introduction...
"i'm a believer,
i couldn't leave her
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just what the world needs....
another frikkin
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I do most of my looping in my studio using logic(great) but I've been
wanting to put something in my live rig and I'm looking at the Korg
DL8000R as a possible choice cause I also am very much into heavier
delay efx and don't really need a full time dedicated live looper and
don't really want a pedal
does anyone here have any direct experience w/ one?
either in use as a looper or as a delay?
it appeals to me as a delay and if I can get a good part time looper out
of it all the better
been awhile since we had a question about looping gear eh?
peace, steve
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At 4:20 AM -0700 5/2/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote:
>I love the suite he composed for John Cage's piece for Toy Piano...
>Anybody know if it is recorded?
On ECM New Series:
John Cage - The Seasons
Seventy-Four (Version I)
The Seasons
Concerto for prepared piano and Chamber Orchestra
Seventy-Four (Version II)
Suite for Toy Piano
Suite for Toy Piano (Orchestration: Lou Harrison)
American Composers Orchestra
Dennis Russell, conductor
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> I also saw it at the inspiring Cabrillo Music Festival.
Or as some of us know it, "The formerly inspiring Cabrillo Music Festival."
It hasn't been the same since Dennis left.
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At 4:20 AM -0700 5/2/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool)
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I love the suite he composed for John
Cage's piece for Toy Piano... Anybody know if it is
recorded?
On ECM New Series:
John Cage - The Seasons
Seventy-Four (Version
I)
The
Seasons
Concerto for prepared piano and
Chamber Orchestra
Seventy-Four (Version
II)
Suite for Toy
Piano
Suite for Toy Piano
(Orchestration: Lou Harrison)
American Composers Orchestra
Dennis Russell, conductor
Margaret Leng Tan: prepared piano, toy piano
I also saw it at the inspiring
Cabrillo Music Festival.
Or as some of us know it, "The formerly inspiring
Cabrillo Music Festival."
It hasn't been the same since Dennis left.
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> If I made a film called "Can't Touch This" and didn't
>expect trouble from both Jobete Music, Rick James, AND M.C. Hammer,
>I'd be a total fool.
>
Oh, this reminds me to ask if anyone knows where to find the M.C.
Hammer parody called "Didn't Write This". Less OT than Weird Al's
"Can't Watch This", this version went something like "I didn't write
this...call up the lawyers".
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We've fairly well beaten the software piracy issue into the ground,
but the recent reissue (in expanded form) of John Oswald's
"Plunderphonic" CD invites discussion of the aesthetics, ethics, and
legalities of quotation, sampling, deconstruction, and appropriation
of musical material as a compositional strategy.
Putting it out front - I'm a big fan of John Oswald and others who
make new and interesting music by recycling existing recordings. I
consider this sort of activity to be in a substantially different
category from the sampling of bits and pieces that has caused so much
controversy and litigation in the rap and dance music scene. I grant
that it's a tough issue. Those familiar with Oswald know about the
heat he took on the release of the original Plunderphonic CD, and you
are probably also familiar with the Negativland U2 CD and the
crushing retaliation that group suffered.
It should be clear from past postings that I'm against software
theft, and I'm inclined to extend that position to sampling of music
for commercial gain. However, when audio quotation crosses the line
into the realm of artistic collage and recontextualization I tend to
lock up the cash register and think more in cultura, sociological,
and aesthetic terms.
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>We've fairly well beaten the software piracy issue into the ground,
>but the recent reissue (in expanded form) of John Oswald's
>"Plunderphonic" CD
yes, we have...but the last time around we did this, i got a link to
a disc which i've enjoyed, and now i get to check out John Oswald.
any links to his stuff? The disc i got before was Antediluvian
Rocking Horse...very fun...completely recycled collage music.
Imagine negativland with a dance beat. They are distributed through
Seeland Records, the Negativland label. you can buy it online from
them.
http://www.negativland.com/nmol/mailordr.html
>Any thoughts?
in this day of incredibly easy digital repurposing (sp?), the whole
'collage' thing, to me, has less sting... would a Raushenburg or a
Jasper Johns have the same impact if they were done post-Photoshop?
the sheer amount of time and dedication to obtain and repurpose those
images was part of what that art was.
Eno and Byrne's "my life in the bush of ghosts" feels the same way.
Some elements of that album would be downright easy these days. not
the creative input, sure, but the technical issues.
on the other hand, the democratization of the technical process of
making music/art has an exciting element to it, too, IMO.
rich
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seems to me its a dual issue; artistic and financial
on the financial end if someone uses thier resources(talent, time,
equipment/money) to create something and someone re-uses it for
financial gain they should be compensated
now there are of course grey area's and people incapable of seeing them
but regardless of what you do w/ it, it is still someone elses work and
just as you would rent a tool or pay a consultant, your work is eisier
or better for the use of it and you owe
remember I said there where grey area's
on an artistic level its as wide as the sky
I'll bet %30 of pop/rock music is direct ripoff/recyle WITHOUT sampling
some of this as homage or influence
and much of it just plain money grabbing ripoff
just cause you can copywrite it doesn't make it creative
just cause you had another musician play it doesn't mean it isn't for
all practical purposes a "sample"
its art if its art, regardless of technique of creation
remember htere was a time when people didn't consider ANY photography
art
given the proliferation of digital equipment don't expect sampling to go
away
the very way many of us make music is changing, wether its groove
quantising or using midi phrase loops or sampling alot of music is
being done w/ prewritten parts, I think its pretty iffy to say that
using a small groove sample in your music is dramatically different than
using twiddly bits, drumtrax or other methods of music generation
I think the differnce between MC hammer and john oswald is obvious don't
you
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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 13:14:38 -0700
From: Andre LaFosse
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Subject: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay?
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O Looplist,
Vis-a-vis the thread on software looping, I'm wondering if anyone here
has opinions on the relative merits of Cycling 74's Pluggo vs. Native
Instruments' Spektral Delay?
I have the demo versions of both programs, and like them a lot. Any
opinions on strengths/weaknesses? VST compatibility? Other similar
types of sound-warping plug-ins?
Thanks,
--Andre
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Subject: Re: Plunderphonic (was "disrespecting softwares")
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Beating it into the ground is all part of deconstruction and understanding
of a topic, in my opinion. As to Oswald, I have two of his CDs: Grayfolded
I and II. Together they make two hours of deconstructed/reconstructed
Greatful Dead playing their opus maximus "Dark Star". Oswald was invited by
the Dead into their tape vault and he was allowed to take every recording of
Dark Star ever made and from this he put together "Grayfolded". It is truly
an amazing work.
-Allan
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