From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:03:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA24712; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:01:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:01:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.112.149] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: udelhoven@t-online.de, peter.a@jendasign.de, upstroke@hotmail.com, mayers@gibson.com, paul-bailey@wanadoo.fr, Almut.Barz@firemail.de, FB-home@t-online.de, stealthcatt@hotmail.com, jbrainin@interactive.net, walterbruehn@netcologne.de, a.bruno@email.telpress.it, carol-callister@wanadoo.fr, luciecompton@hotmail.com, sdamdin@yahoo.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, input@digigram.com, kflint@annihilist.com, ffmusik@ffmusik.de, curtgolden@aol.com, nicolebgraham@hotmail.com, gratte@aol.com, asita@freesurf.ch, ralph.herrnkind@netcologne.de, ruedikhoffmann@t-online.de, uta.til@t-online.de, HooverA@tce.com, JTCAgency@aol.com, Heinrich_von_Kalnein@compuserve.com, uschi.laar@t-online.de, vmerg@uni-bielefeld.de, hnunez@compuserve.com, ANET@aol.com, mpeters@csi.com, PeqF@gmx.de, abi.r@t-online.de, taster@gmx.de, t.rowell@virgin.net, RudolphAx@aol.com, hscheid@hazzazar.com, peter@didgeridoings.com, techsupport@egosys.net, kaspar-hauser@gmx.li, texture444@aol.com, phantom.guitars@okay.net, Michel-Wack@t-online.de, veitwafzig@t-online.de, kuno.tap@t-online.de, uzsoi3@uni-bonn.de, Quohrenmpg@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 04:00:26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 04:00:35.0002 (UTC) FILETIME=[68EC81A0:01C0EA4F] Resent-Message-ID: <7I01rD.A.oBG.HOxF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Thanks, I am glad someone investigates this stuff... I never heed the warnings of these Virus Doomsayers, I ALWAYS check this stuff out ! Oh, have you guys seen the Email list of all the folks that got sent this crude !?!

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From: Steve Burnett
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
CC: UDELHOVEN , Peter Andreas , Gregor Arz , Mike Ayers , Paul Bailey , Almut Barz , Frank Berressem , Kimberlin Blackstone , Jonathan Brainin , Walter Brühn , Alessandro Bruno , Carol Callister , lucie compton , Solongo Damdin , Loopers Delight , Digigram , Kim Flint , Florian Fürst , Curt Golden , "Nicole B. Graham" , Jens Grattentaler , Asita Hamidi , Ralph Herrnkind , Rüdiger Hoffmann , Tilmann Höhn , Alan Hoover , Chris Jaeker , Heinrich von Kalnein , Uschi Laar , Vanessa Merg , Hernan Nunez , John Peters , Michael Peters , Philipp Quaet-Faslem , Abi von Reininghaus , Markus Reuter , Tony Rowell , Axel Rudolph , Hannsjoerg Scheid , Peter Spoecker , EGO SYStems , Tino , David Torn , Eduard Tüske , MIchael Wack , Veit Wafzig , Kuno Wagner , André Wirths , Frieder Zimmermann
Subject: Re: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus!
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:22:46 -0400 (EDT)
This is a hoax. Details are here:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html
best,
Steve
>At 09:53 PM 5/31/01 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>> we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in
>the
>> directory c:/windows/command/
>> We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!!
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:07:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA24977; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:05:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:05:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.112.149] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 04:04:32 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 04:04:32.0621 (UTC) FILETIME=[F68E49D0:01C0EA4F] Resent-Message-ID: <5DuC0D.A.6FG.7RxF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them.

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From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700
Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:
"yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet
to
back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to
hear some looping..."
Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I
played the crowd in and out
in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio
Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that
pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran
a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old
red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create
my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also
pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower melody
as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really
archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out
sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments
I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the
footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some really
beautiful and mysterious sounding
artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'?
Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux
industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV
unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands
fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!!
P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit
to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?


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------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0EA29.2E07DD80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:30:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25737; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:28:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:28:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010601042835.19061.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:28:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <9P7arB.A.hRG.0nxF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > I ran > a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of > those old > red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to > create > my rhythmic loop. Rick, please describe the hungarian jaw harp. Is this metal like the traditional 'jews harps' of the usa, or made of other materials? I bought some asian 'jews harp' devices made from bamboo that have a lovely sound. I find them much easier to play than the novelty shop metal jews harps. Their tone is softer, obviously less metallic. bret __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:30:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25744; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:29:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:29:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010601042850.88052.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:28:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > I ran > a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of > those old > red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to > create > my rhythmic loop. Rick, please describe the hungarian jaw harp. Is this metal like the traditional 'jews harps' of the usa, or made of other materials? I bought some asian 'jews harp' devices made from bamboo that have a lovely sound. I find them much easier to play than the novelty shop metal jews harps. Their tone is softer, obviously less metallic. bret __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:53:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA26170; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:51:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:51:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C52@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" , UDELHOVEN , Peter Andreas , Gregor Arz , Mike Ayers , Paul Bailey , Almut Barz , Frank Berressem , Kimberlin Blackstone , Jonathan Brainin , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Walter_Br=FC?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?hn?= , Alessandro Bruno , Carol Callister , lucie compton , Solongo Damdin , Loopers Delight , Digigram , Kim Flint , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Florian_F=FCrst?= , Curt Golden , "Nicole B. Graham" , Jens Grattentaler , Asita Hamidi , Ralph Herrnkind , =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_Hoffmann?= , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tilmann_H=F6hn?= , Alan Hoover , Chris Jaeker , Heinrich von Kalnein , Uschi Laar , Vanessa Merg , Hernan Nunez , John Peters , Michael Peters , Philipp Quaet-Faslem , Abi von Reininghaus , Markus Reuter , Tony Rowell , Axel Rudolph , Hannsjoerg Scheid , Peter Spoecker , EGO SYStems , Tino , David Torn , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eduard_T=FCske?= , MIchael Wack , Veit Wafzig , Kuno Wagner , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Wirths?= , Frieder Zimmermann Subject: RE: serious (dormant!) virus! Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:50:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id AAA26146 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com WRONG!!!! DO NOT DO THIS!!! This is actually a needed system file , if you delete it you will screw up your windows system guarranteed This is a hoax check the symantec website for proof that this is a hoax and a scam Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Leander REININGHAUS [mailto:LEALOOP@compuserve.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:53 PM To: UDELHOVEN; Peter Andreas; Gregor Arz; Mike Ayers; Paul Bailey; Almut Barz; Frank Berressem; Kimberlin Blackstone; Jonathan Brainin; Walter Brühn; Alessandro Bruno; Carol Callister; lucie compton; Solongo Damdin; Loopers Delight; Digigram; Kim Flint; Florian Fürst; Curt Golden; Nicole B. Graham; Jens Grattentaler; Asita Hamidi; Ralph Herrnkind; Rüdiger Hoffmann; Tilmann Höhn; Alan Hoover; Chris Jaeker; Heinrich von Kalnein; Uschi Laar; Vanessa Merg; Hernan Nunez; John Peters; Michael Peters; Philipp Quaet-Faslem; Abi von Reininghaus; Markus Reuter; Tony Rowell; Axel Rudolph; Hannsjoerg Scheid; Peter Spoecker; EGO SYStems; Tino; David Torn; Eduard Tüske; MIchael Wack; Veit Wafzig; Kuno Wagner; André Wirths; Frieder Zimmermann Subject: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! > > Dear friends, > we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in the > directory c:/windows/command/ > We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! > > PLEASE CHECK YOUR HARDDISC!!! PROBABLY YOU RECEIVED THE VIRUS TOO!!! > > Good luck!!! > > > > >Subject: SERIOUS VIRUS > > > > > > > > >URGENT. A VIRUS could be in your computer files > > >> now, dormant but will become active on June 1. > > >> FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT > > >> AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. > > >> > > >> It was brought to my attention yesterday that a > > >> virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it > > >> and to my surprise I found it on mine. . > > >> > > >> Please follow the directions and remove it from > > >> yours TODAY!! > > >> > > >> No Virus software can detect it. It will become > > >> active on June 1, 2001. > > >> > > >> It might be too late by then. It wipes out all > > >> files and folders on the hard drive. This virus > > >> travels through E-mail and migrates to the > > >> > > >> 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get > > >> rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > >> > > >> Go to the "START" button. > > >> Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > >> Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > >> Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" > > >> drive. > > >> Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > >> Begin search. > > >> > > >> If it finds it, highlight it. > > >> Go to 'File' and delete it. > > >> Close the find Dialog box > > >> Open the Recycle Bin > > >> Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin > > >> You should be safe. > > >> > > >> The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > > >> have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. > > >> Many major companies have found this virus on > > >> their > > >> computers. Please help your friends !!!!!!!! > > >> > > >> DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE > > >> and > > >> NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME > > >> A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST. > > >> > > >> WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 02:54:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27630; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:51:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:51:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:50:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 06:50:23.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[21E87F30:01C0EA67] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So.......just how much money does sonic foundry give you to bring up ACID in every conversation? From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" >I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other >"wierd" instruments..... gotta love them. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700 Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason: "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet to back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to hear some looping..." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 03:25:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA28045; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:23:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:23:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.98.159] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 07:22:45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 07:22:46.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7B12AA0:01C0EA6B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



Ha, ha Matt, may I call you that... if that's really your name ? I know I seem a little bit   ACID-ized, but it's a great app, and I want people to know about it. No I get NOTHING for my high praise of Sonic Foundry ; does anyone get any bucks from EDP, or "My Daughter Is Looping in Europe" ? No, this forum is used for the spread of information, no matter how archaic it might be. I could start on the Zoom ST-224, as a looping device, and tout it's accolades..... but I digress. Peace, and hair grease my man... Oh, that Virus Warning really sucked, did you get one Matt ? I think that was a waste of bandwidth !

----Original Message Follows----
From: "matt davignon"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:50:23 -0700
So.......just how much money does sonic foundry give you to bring up ACID in
every conversation?
From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
>I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and
>other
>"weird" instruments..... gotta love them.
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700
Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:
"yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet
to
back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to
hear some looping..."
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 12:09:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12743; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:01:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:01:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> References: <200106010017.UAA14968@hemlock.violacea.com> <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:52:47 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit >to loving the early Cure on loopers delight? that's the only kind of Cure we'll allow. admit to liking the later stuff and you're outta here! KISS is the only band that was better with makeup. best, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 14:05:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18869; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:59:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:59:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B17D8B6.908E475C@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:05:47 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? References: <200106010017.UAA14968@hemlock.violacea.com> <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason: > > "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet > to > back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to > hear some looping..." > > Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I > played the crowd in and out > in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio > Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that > pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran > a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old > red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create > my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also > pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower melody > as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really > archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out > sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments > I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the > footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some really > beautiful and mysterious sounding > artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'? > > Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux > industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV > unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands > fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!! > > P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit > to loving the early Cure on loopers delight? yes! i loved the early cure too. so, did any of this stuff get recorded? ;-) best, lance g. ps i didn't report back from the harry partch festival, but it was actually really great. we only got there for the evening concert (so missed all the lectures, "petting zoo" etc.), but john schneider & co. (*just strings*) were excellent at presenting partch's early work...especially great was a four-part madrigal setting of one of li po's poems, i think it was "the crane"- written it seems to prove to certain university professors that harry could indeed write "proper" music if necessary...very funny! john s. also presented the original version of "barstow" with just voice and guitar accompaniment- there was an extensive reading from "bitter music", partch's autobiographical sketches of his hobo days...etc. etc. all in all an excellent evening! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 14:34:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20523; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:32:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:32:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:17:36 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? In-reply-to: <3B17D8B6.908E475C@earthlink.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: baumhaus@earthlink.net, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <200106010017.UAA14968@hemlock.violacea.com> <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> <3B17D8B6.908E475C@earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:05 AM -0700 6/1/01, lance glover wrote: >ps i didn't report back from the harry partch festival, but it was actually >really great. we only got there for the evening concert The daytime events were informative. After John Schneider's introduction and mini-tour of the instruments there were presentations by Philip Blackburn and Bob Gilmore (both of whom have books on Partch), a group performance/lecture by Danlee Mitchell et al., and the screening of documentary films -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 15:21:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24095; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:19:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:19:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:17:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: XLR volume pedal? In-Reply-To: <3AF3143B.E602DC61@altruistmusic.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Do any of you loopsters know of anybody who manufactures a low-impedance volume pedal with XLR connectors? My rig includes a mic for looping odd occasional acoustic stuff (flutes, etc) along with the usual electrical suspects. I usually have the fader on the mic channel down and bring it up when I need it, but it would be so much smoother to be able to do this by foot since a free hand is sometimes hard to come by. Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 15:47:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25097; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:45:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:45:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB2D0@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Loopers-Network Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:43:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0EAD3.118D3600" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EAD3.118D3600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" But do be aware that just cos the Knitting Factory loves Stig or DT, ** well, i would say that they love dt . . . and might love me if i could get 'em to return my damn phone calls! (i love bookers!) stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EAD3.118D3600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Loopers-Network


But do be aware that just cos the Knitting Factory = loves Stig or DT,

** well, i would say that they love dt  . . . = and might love me if i could get 'em to return my damn phone calls! =

(i love bookers!)

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EAD3.118D3600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 15:56:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25427; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:54:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:54:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a801c0ead4$69e426a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: XLR volume pedal? Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:52:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If your rig has a channel insert jack, I'd use that instead. For example, my trusty old Tascam board has a tip/ring/sleeve style insert (i.e., 1/4" stereo jack). The sleeve is in common, the tip is send and the ring is return (or vice versa). So I'd put the Vol.Ped. on that puppy. You'd have to either make up a cable or use the proper stereo to mono Y cable. Inserts are usually after the gain stage so it's a nice hot signal. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Nelson" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:17 PM Subject: XLR volume pedal? > Do any of you loopsters know of anybody who manufactures a low-impedance > volume pedal with XLR connectors? > > My rig includes a mic for looping odd occasional acoustic stuff (flutes, > etc) along with the usual electrical suspects. I usually have the fader on > the mic channel down and bring it up when I need it, but it would be so > much smoother to be able to do this by foot since a free hand is sometimes > hard to come by. > > Tim > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:12:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29176; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:08:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:08:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:09:26 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electrix blow-out References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t&csel=0&FIND=electrix BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:20:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29595; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:19:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:19:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1806AF.9C430228@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:18:39 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live looping webstream! References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> <00a801c0ead4$69e426a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello people, This Sunday (6/3) between the hours of 4pm and 6pm I will be webcasting live loops from a house party in Oakland CA. I synch live guitar, synth and samples to sequenced rhythm tracks. All music except for the drum tracks is improvised. Fun fun fun! There will also be DJs spinning, and I'm not sure what the set order will be, but there sure will be music to enjoy. If you're near a computer with a decent web connection, point your favorite mp3 stream decoder to radio.haze.st:8000 Win Amp (for the PC) and SoundJam MP (for Macs) both work. Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:26:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29759; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:25:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:25:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d001c0eae1$5c7fe280$e842f93f@global> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106011805.OAA19115@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: jaw harps, jews harps.................... Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:25:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick replies: At Dror Sinai's amazing, state of the art world percussion/instrument store, RHYTHM FUSION, in Santa Cruz (where I'm blessed to live) there is a very large collection of incredible eastern european jaw harps (also known as jews harps, but methinks that this term is an 'Ellis Island-esque' misnomer and I try to avoid it). There are a great deal of them, most of them in concert tunings. They are fine, fine instruments compared to the jaw harps that you can by at a typical ma and pop music store. I highly recommend them. If you ever want to buy one via the mail, I would be more than happy to make a special trip and pick one out for you (unless you can make it there in person, which I highly recommend) As a description, I own two jaw harps (and a whole slew of Balinese, Phillipino and Javanese bamboo ones as well) that are pitched an octave apart in D. One is very small (3") and the other one is approximately twice as large (5-6"). They make some 'bass' harps too that I just haven't gotten the cash together to purchase. They are pricey!!!!! Approximately $30-$50 each, but once you play one you'll never go back. They are, obviously, more metallic sounding than the bamboo harps and sound very 'electronic' consequently. BTW, are you also hip to two similar sounding instruments: the Phillipino 'Buzz Stick' made out of slit bamboo (Rhythm Fusion usually has those in stock, too) and just playing your palm over a two foot piece of 3" or 4" PVC or ABS plastic pipe......................all those buzzing overtones that make the dijeridu so popular these days!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:29:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29887; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:28:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:28:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: MY setup and splitting the line+flying To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:32:32 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ok here is the deal...i have a sp808- sp202 -line 6 delay -modded moog-waterphone and my sherman filtebank as my main pieces to play with for live work- i have a show coming up and need to get my setup going a little different-i would like to be able to split the signal coming from my sp808 and 202 and run them into the sherman and line6-at the moment i have my line6 plugged in my alt 3/4 on my mixer (mackie 1402)and i route the signal to it by a press of a button-anyways to get to the point can someone suggest some good line spiltters i can buy that would not degrade the signal in anyway? 2nd question: I am playing a show in nyc soon and i have to fly-any suggestions for a flightcase for my mixer would be apperciated--i am going to carry on the rest(i am widdling down my gear for the nyc show-i will have the sp808 the 202 the line 6 and the sherman on the plane with me) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:30:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29932; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:29:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:29:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.161] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:28:09 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 21:28:09.0641 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1354990:01C0EAE1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Touche' my man... I think I used the wrong "word" in describing the info that floats through these post "ARCHAIC", was not the word I wanted. It was 4:00 am, and I was play "Typing Of The Dead", and I went a little, bonkers. I wanted to use a word that meant "of obscure nature", but I slipped..... sorry.

----Original Message Follows----
From: lance glover
Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:25:27 -0700
Devious D_MasterMixer wrote:
>
> Ha, ha Matt, may I call you that... if that's really your name ? I
> know I seem a little bit ACID-ized, but it's a great app, and I want
> people to know about it. No I get NOTHING for my high praise of Sonic
> Foundry ; does anyone get any bucks from EDP, or "My Daughter Is
> Looping in Europe" ? No, this forum is used for the spread of
> information, no matter how archaic it might be. I could start on the
> Zoom ST-224, as a looping device, and tout it's accolades..... but I
> digress. Peace, and hair grease my man... Oh, that Virus Warning
> really sucked, did you get one Matt ? I think that was a waste of
> bandwidth !
um, i think we all got it...
and glad you are so...altruistic? but i can't agree that the newness of
an approach makes older information archaic; by the nature of
information, what's news to some is old hat to others and vice-versa.
which is not to dis your (or anyone else's) particular toolbox- perhaps
you might agree the most important tool sits midway between one's
ears...
cheers,
lance g.


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:37:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30203; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:35:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:35:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:27:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <905EF.A.uXH.rqAG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wow. i don't know whether to be completely stoked (the full size electrix units for $100 is really stunning) or to be kinda pissed. what gives? i paid just under $200 each for my EQ Killer and Filter Queen. Electrix....hmmmm....something besides the Repeater on the way? Nobody has a price drop like that on a company's complete line of gear without something going on. As for ya crazy loopers...if you got the cash...looks like now's the time to jump. These are some crazy, fun to use products, and the fullsize units do all kinds of fun midi sync stuff. At the Repeater demo at Namm, one of the things i got shown was changing the tempo of a loop and having all of the delays (mo-fx) and lfo speed (filter factory) of the connected units drop in sync with the changed loop. scary. go for it...me, i'm still staggering from the price tag of my recently purchased Logic Audio Platinum and the firewire MOTU 828.... won't it be fun when the price on that drops by over 50% when the next best goodie comes along? rich >Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be >interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several >pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and >Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t&csel=0&FIND=electrix > >BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship >date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! > >Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:44:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30442; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:43:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:43:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001c01c0eae4$37bdc2c0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:45:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hehe- I'm all over it- I'll have to get a bigger rack... :) c ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out > wow. i don't know whether to be completely stoked (the full size > electrix units for $100 is really stunning) or to be kinda pissed. > what gives? i paid just under $200 each for my EQ Killer and Filter > Queen. > > Electrix....hmmmm....something besides the Repeater on the way? > Nobody has a price drop like that on a company's complete line of > gear without something going on. > > As for ya crazy loopers...if you got the cash...looks like now's the > time to jump. These are some crazy, fun to use products, and the > fullsize units do all kinds of fun midi sync stuff. At the Repeater > demo at Namm, one of the things i got shown was changing the tempo of > a loop and having all of the delays (mo-fx) and lfo speed (filter > factory) of the connected units drop in sync with the changed loop. > scary. > > go for it...me, i'm still staggering from the price tag of my > recently purchased Logic Audio Platinum and the firewire MOTU 828.... > > won't it be fun when the price on that drops by over 50% when the > next best goodie comes along? > > rich > > > >Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be > >interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several > >pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and > >Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. > > > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931 ?q=t&csel=0&FIND=electrix > > > >BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship > >date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! > > > >Elby > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:46:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30577; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:45:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:45:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.161] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: N.FOURNIER@NATURENY.com Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:44:37 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 21:44:37.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E3FD000:01C0EAE4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your Mac. I am not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that you can use. ReCyCle.

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From: "Fournier, Nicole"
To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'"
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:33:14 -0400
hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be kind......
Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to get a program like
Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you recommend me get?
many thanx
-nic
> ----------
> From: Devious D_MasterMixer
> Reply To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2001 12:04 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
>
> I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other
> "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them.
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> To:
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700
> Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:
> "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet
>
> to
> back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there
> to
> hear some looping..."
> Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I
> played the crowd in and out
> in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio
>
> Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that
> pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran
> a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old
>
> red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create
>
> my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also
> pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower
> melody
> as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really
> archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out
> sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments
> I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the
> footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some
> really
> beautiful and mysterious sounding
> artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'?
> Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux
> industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV
> unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands
> fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!!
>
> P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit
> to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?
>
> _____
>
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>


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:57:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30867; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:56:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:56:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: mhamburg@mailsj-v1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:52:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Mark Hamburg" Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Any ideas why the Filter Queen is the most expensive of the lot (ignoring the Repeater)? Mark At 2:09 PM -0700 6/1/01, Mountain Man wrote: >Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be >interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several >pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and >Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t >&csel=0&FIND=electrix > >BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship >date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! > >Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:05:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32122; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:02:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:02:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:47:08 -0400 To: ambient@hyperreal.org, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Jorrit Dijkstra , boss-improv@topica.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Fwd: [NM] Electrix filter factory @ Musicians Friend $99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Some of you might be interested in this -- at this price, I sure was. > > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/shop/rec/010601130142172137068024915931?pid=181121 > >Well here it is the filter at $99, I almost couldnt believe it. >Bought one in an instant, felt a little cheap for not buying the >rest of the Electrix gear that was on sale. Kudos to Gregory Martin >for letting us know someone had it on sale. > >let me close by saying this is without a doubt the best list going. >Sleep tight, the sun is going down over Oxford. > >Rob >missing the desert. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:06:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32162; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:04:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:04:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010601150147.020ff0a0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:01:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark Hamburg (02:52 PM 06/01/01) wrote: >Any ideas why the Filter Queen is the most expensive of the lot (ignoring >the Repeater)? As from my contact at Electrix... The deal with GC/MF is that they should be selling the WarpFactory, FilterFactory, and Mo-FX at US $99 each, and the FilterQueen and EQKiller at US $79 each. The MF site needs to be updated. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:48:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00391; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:36:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:36:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010601223627.28339.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: OT: jaw harps, jews harps.................... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00d001c0eae1$5c7fe280$e842f93f@global> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <14b19D.A.4F.ujBG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > > Rick replies: At Dror Sinai's amazing, state of the art world > percussion/instrument store, RHYTHM FUSION, in Santa Cruz > (where I'm blessed to live) there is a very large collection of > incredible > eastern european jaw harps (also known as jews harps, but methinks > that > this term is an 'Ellis Island-esque' misnomer and I try to avoid it). Thanks for the explanation of your jaw instruments. The phrase jew's harp was the original and only phrase I had heard for this class of instruments, until recently. The etymology of the phrase jew's harp seems unclear, but it certainly predates Ellis Island immigrants. I found the following at the Jew's Harp Guild http://www.jewsharpguild.org/history.html ---------- A Dictionary of Contemporary American Usage (New York 1957), p.259, reports a recent trend: Jew's Harp (Jews' Harp); juice harp. For over 400 years the instrument ... has been connected in English with the Jew's ... Whether any derogation was originally intended is not known but it is apparently believed that some might now be felt, for the instrument is invariably referred to in radio and television programs as a juice harp. Considering the drooling that often accompanies amateur performances on the thing, this is a fairly ingenious emendation, and considering the fact that it is only on radio and television programs that children hear of the instrument at all any more, the new name is probably better established among the young than the old name, and one more word has undergone one more preposterous change. Frederick Crane (in VIM #1) says, "To summarize, six words have been discussed as the original form from which the Jew's of Jew's Harp was corrupted: jaw's, jeu, jeugd, gewgaw, giga, gawe. The frequency and dogmatism with which the various etymons have been asserted vary from very great to very little." "In brief: The earliest known written citation of Jew's harp in 1595, in England. Prior to that it was called Jew's trump (earliest spelling: jewes trump). Before that it was known as trump in Scotland and northern England; the origin of the "jewes" preceder is obscure. However, there is no indication that the origin was connected with Judaism or the Jewish people. It probably came from some other word -- one possibility is the Old English word gewgaw - and was then, many years later, "fixed," resulting in the current form. Jaw harp is a 20th century creation. It was first suggested as an origin of Jew's harp as pure conjecture - there is no evidence of that name ever being used in common parlance before then. From that point, several different music historians indulged in sloppier and sloppier research, until jawharp as an origin progressed from baseless conjecture to absolute "truth". Jaw harp, then, is not an invented term intended to be politically correct, but is rather a misnomer brought to life by bad scholarship. In its favor, jawharp is a misnomer of a misnomer - a quirky name for a somewhat quirky instrument. An informal survey of Jewish friends over the years has yielded mixed reactions to the "Jew's harp". Almost all found it inoffensive, or were puzzled that the question had even been raised; however, the few who did find it offensive objected to it rather strongly. One said he thought it sounded like a slur invented by Christians, Big Christian harp, little Jew's harp. This is an imaginative yet unfounded theory, but given the abuse that Jews have suffered throughout history, it is an understandable one. An important fact to consider is that the name Jew's harp in not considered a slur only because of the historic persecution of Jew's. It is also because of the negative image the instrument has endured in the United States. (If, say, French toast were used only for hog feed here, the French might well be insulted by the term). And even though aficionados of the Jew's harp are aware that in most of the world - perhaps even most especially in Europe -- the instrument has been revered, not reviled, the fact remains that perceptions can be as important as fact. A perceived slur can hurt as much as an intended one. English is a fluid, flexible, and capricious language. Whether Jew's harp, trump, jawharp, or something else enters popular usage cannot really be dictated. Even if it could, changing language in the name of "correctness" seems a bit Orwellian. PLUCK will continue to use Jew's harp, as it is still the most common term in use, but when referring to a player of the instrument will use "jawharpist." We will also use whatever name the maker of a particular instrument uses, and use a player's choice in name as well. The way to combat the perception of the name "Jew's harp" as a slur is not to try to change the language, but to improve the image of the instrument. We can do that by treating the Jew's harp as a legitimate musical instrument and encouraging others to do the same." Frederick Crane suggests (in VIM #4) changing the name to TRUMP. He says, "If I fancied that I could influence the English vocabulary, I would propose that we return to the Middle Ages, and make a fresh start by calling the instrument trump once more. The word has much to recommend it. It is the oldest known name of the instrument in English, and has an unbroken tradition to the 20th century in Scotland, at least. It is a cousin of the oldest terms in the languages of Europe, such as French trompe, German Trumpel, and Slavic drumla. It isn't likely to be confused with the names of any other instruments, though it does resemble trumpet. And it has a nice, folksy quality to it, quite perfect for the instrument." (See VIM #4 for a complete discussion on this.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:49:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00503; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:42:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:42:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010601184122.007c7d10@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:41:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RC-20 In-Reply-To: <00a801c0ead4$69e426a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Even though nobody's had a chance to send that detailed review Kim's been asking for, does anyone out there have any cursory first impressions reached while trying out an RC-20? I actually had one in my hands yesterday (the shipment had just arrived; seemed like a solid little unit and looked like it would be a lot of fun to try out) but my lunch hour was almost over and I had to go back to work so I didn't get to actually plug it in :-( Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:51:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00326; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:34:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:34:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:26:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com bitheadz also makes 'Phrazer'...an acid-style composing program. supposedly you can import acid files into it, as well. www.bitheadz.com rich >Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your >Mac. I am not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that >you can use. ReCyCle. > > >hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be kind...... >Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to get a program like >Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you recommend me get? >many thanx >-nic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:55:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01208; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:54:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:54:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c0ea88$e4f83ee0$19acbdcf@mshome.net> From: "marc roche" To: References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: repeater Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:52:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I ordered my repeater from musicians friend today. they were willing to do it for $525 (matching sixtecycle). They said it would be in around the end of the month. Salaam govinda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hamburg" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out > Any ideas why the Filter Queen is the most expensive of the lot (ignoring > the Repeater)? > > Mark > > At 2:09 PM -0700 6/1/01, Mountain Man wrote: > >Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be > >interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several > >pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and > >Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. > > > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931 ?q=t > >&csel=0&FIND=electrix > > > >BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship > >date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! > > > >Elby > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 19:08:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03131; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:07:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:07:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010601190537.007c8520@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:05:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: XLR volume pedal? In-Reply-To: <00a801c0ead4$69e426a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No, I had thought of that and in terms of gain that would be the way to go, but my board's a Spirit Folio with no inserts. Only two auxes, too. (But apart from that I like it a lot.) I had thought of rigging up a switch box kind of like a CoughDrop (only latchable so I don't to stand there like a flamingo) to switch the signal in and out, but I'd really like to be able to do that 'volume swell into the big delay before the looper' thing we all know and love with our electric instruments. I've done it before with a high-impedance 1/4" plugged (i.e. R---- S----) mic through a regular volume pedal and it works pretty well, but I'd really prefer to use an SM57. So I guess I'll get out the drill bits and soldering stuff; does anyone have a recommendation for the pot value? (By the way, Dennis, did you notice the humorous typo on your song title on the '75 Seconds' album as posted on ? 'CIRRUS Over Indiana' has mutated into 'CITRUS'; more vitamin C, I guess!) -t At 02:52 PM 6/1/01 -0500, the Lord of the Tibetan Singing Bowls (Dennis Leas) wrote: >If your rig has a channel insert jack, I'd use that instead. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 19:32:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04144; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:31:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:31:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.48] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: mattdavignon@hotmail.com Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 23:28:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 23:28:49.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C9D17A0:01C0EAF2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

That's really rich...... I don't know... Poontang, Acid ? I think Poontang win's out in that battle.

Oh, Acid 4.0..... that's really rich.

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From: "matt davignon"
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com, baumhaus@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:43:27 -0700
No problem, I just think it's funny how often you bring up ACID. You have far surpassed my roommate's best friend, who manages to bring up the subject of Poontang in every conversation:
"I'm hungry."
"You know what I'm hungry for? Poontang!"
"Hungry for superior mixing and editing capabilities? Try Sonic Foundry (tm) ACID 4.0! Wow, I just downloaded the LEGAL version, and it's got the kind of features I flip for! I can change the pitch without changing the time or going back into SoundForge. Gosh. Sonic Foundry ACID version 4.0 - now that's phat!."
>From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
>Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
>To: baumhaus@earthlink.net
>Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
>Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:28:09
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 19:34:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04172; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:32:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:32:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.48] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-20 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 23:31:50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 23:31:50.0850 (UTC) FILETIME=[0897EA20:01C0EAF3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Nope, no input from this side of my neck.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Tim Nelson
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RC-20
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:41:22 -0400
Even though nobody's had a chance to send that detailed review Kim's been
asking for, does anyone out there have any cursory first impressions
reached while trying out an RC-20?
I actually had one in my hands yesterday (the shipment had just arrived;
seemed like a solid little unit and looked like it would be a lot of fun to
try out) but my lunch hour was almost over and I had to go back to work so
I didn't get to actually plug it in :-(
Tim


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 19:35:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04288; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:34:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:34:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.56] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Boss PS-3 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:33:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 23:33:08.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[37110A30:01C0EAF3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anybody hear of rewiring the pedal button to route the input to the output or effect. This would enable looping with out adding to the loop. Doesn't sound like it would be difficult in theory. The effect would be on all the time. Anybody? I guess an AB/A+B switch would work also with a small mixer for the signals? Denis p.s. I can always use another ps-3 if anybody has one. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 20:09:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06735; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:08:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:08:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a501c0eaf8$452deac0$f9964e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: OT: jaw harps, jews harps.................... Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:08:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bret wrote: >Thanks for the explanation of your jaw instruments. The phrase jew's >harp was the original and only phrase I had heard for this class of >instruments, until recently. >The etymology of the phrase jew's harp seems unclear, but it certainly >predates Ellis Island immigrants. I found the following at the Jew's >Harp Guild ...snip... Wow, Bret, thanks for the great post. This is just the kind of thing an amateur etymologist/musicologist like me lives for! :-0 It's amazing to see how many musical cultures throughout the world use that curious and curiously-named little twangy instrument. There's a fantastic CD on PAN Records called "Khomus - Jew's harp music of Turkic peoples in the Urals, Siberia and Central Asia." (catalogue # PAN 2032 CD, distributed, I believe, in the States by Arhoolie) Although it's not for everyone, this CD has an amazing range of both traditional (i.e., "folk") and "serious composer" (for want of a better term) pieces for the jaw harp. The title of the CD "khomus" refers to the Turkic root name for the instrument. I'm no authority on Turkic languages, but I believe the term "khomus" (or "komuz," "kobuz," "kobyz," etc.) is a generic term for "musical instrument." A Turkish musical friend of mine had done some fieldwork studying the music of Kirghiz (Central Asian former Soviet Republic) immigrants in Istanbul, and one of their main instruments was called "shan-kobyz." My friend explained that this literally meant "mouth-instrument." In India/Pakistan the same instrument is called "murchang." Surprisingly enough, it has exactly the same derivation, from Hindi "munh" (mouth) and "chang" (instrument). In North India it's strictly used as a folk instrument, either solo or providing melodic percussion effects in an ensemble. However, in South India it has full "classical" status, and is generally played as an accompanying percussion instrument (along with other drums) to vocalists and instrumentalists. As Rick mentioned, the instrument is also widespread throughout Southeast Asia and Indonesia, as well as Eastern Europe. For years I always thought of it as strictly an American "folk instrument" from jugbands, etc. I was really surprised to see how ancient and far-flung an instrument it is. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 20:40:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07730; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:38:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:38:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: "Loopers Delight" , , Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:38:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c0eafc$4dc83b00$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0EAD2.64F23300" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0EAD2.64F23300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really wouldn't recommend using Virtual PC for any audio applications... I use it at work for MS Office, but the general operation of VPC is incredibly slow. I really doubt it could keep up with that kind of data stream. I have switched to the mac version of Office just so i don't have to use VPC anymore. And I have a new G4 tower, 384Mb RAM.... Mike -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:45 PM To: N.FOURNIER@NATURENY.com Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your Mac. I am not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that you can use. ReCyCle. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'" Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:33:14 -0400 hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be kind...... Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to get a program like Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you recommend me get? many thanx -nic > ---------- > From: Devious D_MasterMixer > Reply To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com > Sent: Friday, June 1, 2001 12:04 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? > > I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other > "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them. > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > To: > Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? > Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700 > Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason: > "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet > > to > back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there > to > hear some looping..." > Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I > played the crowd in and out > in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio > > Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that > pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran > a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old > > red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create > > my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also > pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower > melody > as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really > archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out > sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments > I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the > footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some > really > beautiful and mysterious sounding > artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'? > Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux > industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV > unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands > fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!! > > P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit > to loving the early Cure on loopers delight? > > _____ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0EAD2.64F23300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
    I really wouldn't recommend using Virtual PC = for any=20 audio applications... I use it at work for MS Office, but the general = operation=20 of VPC is incredibly slow.  I really doubt it could keep up with = that kind=20 of data stream.  I have switched to the mac version of Office just = so i=20 don't have to use VPC anymore.  And I have a new G4 tower, 384Mb=20 RAM....
 
    Mike
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Devious = D_MasterMixer=20 [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 01, = 2001 9:45=20 PM
To: N.FOURNIER@NATURENY.com
Subject: RE: looped = jaw=20 harp and kazoo?

Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your = Mac. I am=20 not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that you can use. = ReCyCle.

----Original Message Follows----=20
From: "Fournier, Nicole"
To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'"
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?=20
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:33:14 -0400=20
hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be = kind......=20
Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to = get a=20 program like=20
Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you = recommend me=20 get?=20
many thanx=20
-nic=20
> ----------=20
> From: Devious D_MasterMixer=20
> Reply To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com=20
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2001 12:04 AM=20
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?=20
>=20
> I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include = jaw harps,=20 and other=20
> "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ----Original Message Follows----=20
> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"=20
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
> To:=20
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?=20
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700=20
> Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:=20
> "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw = harp and=20 kazzoo quintet=20
>=20
> to=20
> back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, = whish I=20 could be there=20
> to=20
> hear some looping..."=20
> Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the=20 opening/closing (I=20
> played the crowd in and out=20
> in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi = media=20 show at the Rio=20
>=20
> Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one = of the=20 pieces that=20
> pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I = ran=20
> a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it = through one=20 of those old=20
>=20
> red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down = one=20 octave, to create=20
>=20
> my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish = tin=20 whistle, also=20
> pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed = an=20 octave lower=20
> melody=20
> as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That = Digitech=20 is really=20
> archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this = case it=20 came out=20
> sounding really, really cool. You would have never = known what=20 instruments=20
> I used, initially and I have the wonderful added = option of=20 sweeping the=20
> footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which = produced some=20
> really=20
> beautiful and mysterious sounding=20
> artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'?=20
> Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one = in a=20 faux=20
> industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone = ever catch=20 the MTV=20
> unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands=20
> fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love = Cats"?=20 Priceless!!!!=20
>=20
> P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit=20
> to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?=20
>=20
> _____=20
>=20
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at=20 http://explorer.msn.com=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0EAD2.64F23300-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 20:45:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08054; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:44:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:44:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:43:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c9.10badb39.284990c6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_c9.10badb39.284990c6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/1/01 5:08:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mtman@cloud9.net writes: > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t > &csel=0&FIND=electrix > elby.....why did you do this to me?.....do i, as a humble *g* player and all round looping goon want these neat toys for so cheap?.....seems like a tasty offer, thanks for the pointer.....m --part1_c9.10badb39.284990c6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/1/01 5:08:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mtman@cloud9.net
writes:




http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t
&csel=0&FIND=electrix


elby.....why did you do this to me?.....do i, as a humble *g* player and all
round looping goon want these neat toys for so cheap?.....seems like a tasty
offer, thanks for the pointer.....m
--part1_c9.10badb39.284990c6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 21:10:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10075; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:08:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:08:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.48] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 01:07:38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2001 01:07:38.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A845A40:01C0EB00] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Kudoo's on that. I've gone back, and researched the VPC, and I hear the same problem. I did not know... Well Sonic Foundry is SUPPOSED to be working on a Mac version, but I think that is just "Mac-Talk".

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mike Feeney"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: "Loopers Delight" , ,
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:38:12 -0500
I really wouldn't recommend using Virtual PC for any audio
applications... I use it at work for MS Office, but the general operation of
VPC is incredibly slow. I really doubt it could keep up with that kind of
data stream. I have switched to the mac version of Office just so i don't
have to use VPC anymore. And I have a new G4 tower, 384Mb RAM....
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:45 PM
To: N.FOURNIER@NATURENY.com
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your Mac. I
am not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that you can use.
ReCyCle.
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Fournier, Nicole"
To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'"
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:33:14 -0400
hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be kind......
Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to get a program
like
Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you recommend me get?
many thanx
-nic
> ----------
> From: Devious D_MasterMixer
> Reply To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2001 12:04 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
>
> I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other
> "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them.
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> To:
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700
> Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:
> "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo
quintet
>
> to
> back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be
there
> to
> hear some looping..."
> Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I
> played the crowd in and out
> in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the
Rio
>
> Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that
> pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran
> a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those
old
>
> red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to
create
>
> my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also
> pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower
> melody
> as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really
> archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out
> sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what
instruments
> I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the
> footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some
> really
> beautiful and mysterious sounding
> artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'?
> Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux
> industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV
> unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands
> fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"?
Priceless!!!!
>
> P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit
> to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?
>
> _____
>
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 22:31:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12536; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:29:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:29:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010602022914.44079.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: RC-20, first impressions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I picked up a RC-20 Thursday evening and just spent a couple hours with it. The manual is fairly well written, a surprise. It is brief and occasionally nebulous but understandable. Looping is a breeze. You press the left pedal and when finished press it again. If you want to overdub you use the left pedal yet again, on and off as needed. The right pedal stops the loop. If you hold down either pedal for 2 seconds you erase the loop. You can play loops in reverse but the button is small and behind the main pedals. You can buy a footswitch for it and the step through loop selector. Roland has a specific pedal they recommend which is optional. The unit comes with six AA batteries, a wall wart is available for $20 more. I paid $269 for it. It wasn't worth finding out if there were better prices, save $20 and wait until the next batch hits the stores? The construction is pretty good, it isn't built like a Line 6 DL-4 which is a tank but it is fairly heavy. If you want to freestyle you can, Boss makes much of the quantizing feature which works if you think in terms of math. I'm not knocking it but to me it sounds unnatural if you hit a loop and hit a good endpoint only to hear it "corrected." You can defeat quantizing. In fact unless you set up time signatures and tempo you won't be able to quantize. There are three modes, instrument/microphone, the mic input is quarter inch with another quarter inch input for instruments. The CD/MD input is a mini plug. When using the CD/MD input there are controls to change frequency response to "flatten out signal." I haven't tried it yet but my guitar sounded good. There are input volume controls for instrument and mic inputs but not for the CD/MD. Other controls include output volume, guide tone volume (if you want a metronome pulse you can turn on a guide to keep in time providing you set one up. There is also a rotary control for the 10 loops and 1 one shot that the RC-20 can save. There are small buttons for reverse, tap tempo, write select, exit (if you decide not to save), auto start and mode. Auto start only works with tempo based loops. You can tap tempo the speed and again, you need to set these kinds of loops up. The mode button toggles you between normal, center cancel, and flat amp simulator. Center cancel, to quote the manual, "Sounds localized at the center (such as vocals or guitar solo) will be erased from the sound being recorded." Haven't tried that, don't think I have a need to. I haven't tried the flat amp simulator either, will expand when I do. So how does it sound? Well, pretty good actually. Some have complained of a hiss. My setup is either a Carvin LS127T, Fernandes Revolver w/sustainer or Schecter 5 string guitar (tuned in 5ths, low string is at open A on a bass up to high C# of a 6 string guitar) clean there was some change in timbre, the most on the Carvin, with any kind of distortion no difference. So in terms of sound quality I'd say good, Line 6 is very good, it's also a 14 second looper vs a 5 1/2 minute looper. I compared output to a Boomerang+ and the Rang was harder to tame but far more usable to my tastes. Here are some areas I think the RC-20 would be useful: 1. DJs or keyboard loopers. You can push on the pedal comfortably plus if you are beat concerned you can catch the beat and lock step it if that's your thing. Even if I used it with my synths I think I'd go freestyle. However, it's there and as long as you aren't doing complex timings it works. Problem, no tempo display, dumb move but for a sub $300 5+ minute looper it's understandable 2. Guitar loopers. I love the Rang, I use it all the time but I find myself running to a recording source when I have a good loop, I can always reuse it later if I save it. It's not a great solution though and at gigs it's even harder if not impossible. But you have 10 loop memories available and a one shot, so you could save something you like. There are some catches though. First, you need to have the memory. Second, the loop is written to a memory buffer, if the buffer is higher than the amount of memory required to save the sound it will not save, nor can you overwrite an old loop. You have to delete the loop memories. 3. Vocalists, voice work. It has lots of time and you can save what you do and even work it out where you can reuse what you save. 4. One person bands. If you can deal with mono output you can do a lot with this pedal. I haven't tried it but I think you can use all inputs. An easier way would be to use the effects section of a mixer. Either way it can be done. Positives: lots of loop time, memory slots, battery powered (25 hours alkaline), reverse and loop advance switches Not Sure: many of the interesting controls require pushing of buttons or twisting knobs, if you use it as a floor pedal this, at least for me, is awkward. If you use it as a tabletop unit it is easier to deal with but is lacking for off the cuff loopers, it would have been interesting if Boss made a secondary switch available for looping/ovedubbing, redundant, yes, but it would have solved a lot of problems. Negatives: if you want to loop on the fly and use the RC-20 as a pedal you will be bending over a lot if you want to use some of the features. Optional footswitches necessary for reverse trigger and loop cycling which is wherever you start the trigger, so if you're on loop 5 it advances to 6, etc. No slow mode which would have been very cool. Additional initial thoughts, I didn't notice much or any padding of loops, you can't edit the loops you make in any way other than volume on the pedal. If set up well and you know your setup you should be fine, on the fly volume control with a built in volume control would have been a nice feature. The thing to remember is this is a sub $300 looper. For it's cost you get a lot of playback time, don't ask me the sample rate or frequency range, Boss isn't telling. I suspect 16 - 24k sampling rate. I'd be surprised if it's higher. If saving your loops matters this is a good unit to check out. Remember though, you'll still have to back up what you save as there's only 10 loops available to save. Still, I like the RC-20 so far. I can phrase train as well, never would use it, won't bother with it. It is probably designed for bass and guitar players although it can does offer modes to record line sources, they call it CD/HD. I haven't tried it yet but don't expect much, probably nice for drum beats and spoken word. I tried a Korg Karma and Waldorf microQ with guitar loops and was impressed with the quality. I did not go past 4 or 5 overdubs so I don't know how far it can go in that direction. Well, I hope this was helpful. I will try to follow up as I spend more time. I will be gigging with this and the Boomerang. The Rang will be my primary looper. It's kind of early but I still prefer the Rang for on the fly looping and ease of use. Bruce Satinover __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 22:35:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12709; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:34:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:34:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d501c0ea43$d3d90ee0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:37:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so since it says "due 6-10" , is it safe to buy now? sorry if that's a dumb question, but i don't often make purchases of this size, so i thought i'd ask first! Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 23:01:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14162; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:59:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:59:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: THusken@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:58:45 EDT Subject: Electrix blowout To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b9.eb99af5.2849b065_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10524 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_b9.eb99af5.2849b065_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please don't tell me Electrix are having trouble...I'm still down about Alesis' problems! Great gear at great prices should be rewarded with great success for ever and ever! --part1_b9.eb99af5.2849b065_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please don't tell me Electrix are having trouble...I'm still down about
Alesis' problems!  Great gear at great prices should be rewarded with great
success for ever and ever!  
--part1_b9.eb99af5.2849b065_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 00:02:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16068; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:00:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:00:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010601205402.020f9148@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:56:17 -0700 To: From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com diatom drone (07:37 PM 05.31.2001) wrote: >so since it says "due 6-10" , is it safe to buy now? sorry if that's a dumb >question, but i don't often make purchases of this size, so i thought i'd >ask first! A lot of folks have, and a lot of folks do on a regular basis. Personally, I would have no problems with doing so. My missus bought one of each for her rig (sans the Repeater) - that's mine. :) THusken@aol.com (07:58 PM 06.01.2001) wrote: >Please don't tell me Electrix are having trouble...I'm still down about >Alesis' problems! Great gear at great prices should be rewarded with great >success for ever and ever! Well, Alesis is officially out of Chapter 11 (Numark bought them), but it's untold as to what the business plan will be. Electrix is fine. They're re-aligning themselves to be able to concentrate on looping boxes, i.e., Repeater. Repeater is still coming. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 00:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16345; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:16:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:16:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010601205402.020f9148@mulder.intermag.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Mark Pulver wrote: > My missus bought one of each for her rig (sans the Repeater) - that's mine. :) The only thing I'm waiting on is to see musiciansfriend update their website so I can get the filter queen for $79 along with one of everything else - except for the WarpFactory, I really don't need two vocoders. OTOH, I use my warpfactory now, and $99 for a backup isn't unreasonable. Hmmm.... later, Steve -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 01:05:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18206; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:03:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:03:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00cd01c0eb21$6607a8c0$6e42f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106012248.SAA00617@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:03:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Lance G. wrote; "so, did any of this stuff get recorded? Yes, Thanks for asking, When I get some time I'll transfer my minidisc recording onto a CD and clean it up. I don't know how to poste audio files to the web. Can anybody help me out? I'd love to throw a couple of the things I did at the Residents show onto Loopers Xchange or some other appropriate site. Any suggestions and/or advice? I think I have all the software necessary for converting anything to anything (specifically, .wav files to MP3 files). yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 01:21:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18533; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:19:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:19:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.23.31.171] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 22:18:40 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2001 05:18:40.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C4C1EC0:01C0EB23] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At this very moment, it seems like the two best sites for posting mp3 files are www.iuma.com (which I use and like, but sometimes has a slow interface) and vitaminic.com (which I've never used, but now owns IUMA, and has been highly recommended to me). Mp3.com used to be a really easy to use, nice place to post mp3's (and has lots of features that make it more interactive with mp3 musicians), but now it's just about impossible to post there unless you pay them $20 per month. (Which would be money better spent by paying for webhosting for your own site.) Rick, I'm looking forward to hearing it! Did you ever hear back from Al at Kimo's? Matt >From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:03:43 -0700 > >Lance G. wrote; >"so, did any of this stuff get recorded? > >Yes, Thanks for asking, When I get some time I'll transfer my minidisc >recording onto a CD and clean it up. I don't know how to poste audio >files to the web. > > Can anybody help me out? I'd love to throw a couple of the things >I did at the Residents show onto Loopers Xchange or some other appropriate >site. Any suggestions and/or advice? I think I have all the >software necessary for converting anything to anything (specifically, .wav >files to MP3 files). > >yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 02:01:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20228; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:59:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:59:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009401c0eb29$16c6fce0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <200106012248.SAA00617@hemlock.violacea.com> <00cd01c0eb21$6607a8c0$6e42f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 06:58:45 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm sorry I don't live in the US anymore, as I've got an MD of my first UK performance over Easter weekend, but of course no MD player. If I did I'd volunteer to do the transfer gratis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: 02 June 2001 06:03 AM Subject: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) > Lance G. wrote; > "so, did any of this stuff get recorded? > > Yes, Thanks for asking, When I get some time I'll transfer my minidisc > recording onto a CD and clean it up. I don't know how to poste audio > files to the web. > > Can anybody help me out? I'd love to throw a couple of the things > I did at the Residents show onto Loopers Xchange or some other appropriate > site. Any suggestions and/or advice? I think I have all the > software necessary for converting anything to anything (specifically, .wav > files to MP3 files). > > yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 04:59:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA24385; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:57:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:57:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000001c0eb41$d4db0920$13856fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: "Stephen P. Goodman" , References: <200106012248.SAA00617@hemlock.violacea.com> <00cd01c0eb21$6607a8c0$6e42f93f@dnlsh01> <009401c0eb29$16c6fce0$0201a8c0@stephen> Subject: Re: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:45:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What do you need Steve? Transfer from MD to CD? I can do that if you pop your MD in the post I'll sort it out for you - pro bono. Gareth lidoffadaffodil > I'm sorry I don't live in the US anymore, as I've got an MD of my first UK > performance over Easter weekend, but of course no MD player. If I did I'd > volunteer to do the transfer gratis. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:07:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32581; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:05:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:05:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:04:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200106021004.AA1479409872@mail.woodford-way.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Mark Woodford" Reply-To: To: Subject: Boss RC-20 Loop Station X-Mailer: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been lurking in your web site archive, but I'm new to the list. You can check me out at my web site http://woodford-way.com... Pretty much says it all. I understand you're looking for an RC-20 review. I'm not the most qualified looper around, but a rookie review is better than nothing I suppose. I bought the RC-20 mostly for practice and so far it's been alot of fun. This is my first interactive looper. I usually record into my computer to make backing tracks, which works fine but isn't very spontaneous. With the RC-20 I can record backing tracks for a whole verse/chorus, rhythm guitar baseline and maybe a some rhythmic lead work, then solo until I get sick of it... probably old had to you loopers, but brand new to me. The sound quality is very good. I haven't A/B compared it to my CD quality computer sound, but I haven't noticed any degredation either, except after I layer too many tracks and it starts to clip... There is a quantizer/simple drum machine which is both nice and a pain in the butt. The drum goes "snare-kick-kick-kick", which doesn't fit any songs I play, but it's better than a metronome, and you can turn down the volume but I can't figure out how to turn it off and leave it off. The quantizer really wants to be on. I've used it all sorts of different ways and they all seem to work fine including: - acoustic/piezo guitar into mixer through SRM450s - vg8 guitar into mixer through SRM450s - strat into fender pro reverb amp - bluesbird into marshall JTM-30 Saving loops works well either temporarily to answer the phone or put the kids to bed, or overnight when it's time to go to bed. You can save up to 11 loops, but I've only saved 1. I haven't used the mic input or the line level input. To use the mic input you need a 1/4 inch adapter, which seems lame. I think I'd use a pre-amp instead, if I ever thy to use a mic. There were some questions on the list about whether it is stereo or mono. It is definitely mono. The manual claims you can record 10 loops, then cycle through them, one way forward only via footswitch, as you play, but I haven't tried this. These would NOT be on the fly loops, they would have to be pre-recorded. Perhaps if you have a few rhythm patterns you could pre-record these and use them in a song or maybe use 2 or 3 loops on 3 or 4 songs, otherwise I don't get how one would use this. The 11th loop is a one shot deal that you can record then play back once without looping. The other 10 all continue playing until you stop them. I don't think there is any loop decay. Once you add something to a loop, it continues until you stop. There isn't any undo either, so if you goof up building your loop, your mistake repeats forever until you stop the loop. To erase and start over you simply hold a pedal down for 2 seconds, which works very well for practicing, but I'm not sure about gigging. Thats about all I can think of for now. I hope this helps a little, at least until one of your more experienced loops gets ahold of one of these things. ---mark http://woodford-way.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:31:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00488; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:29:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:29:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B18F876.5CBB65DC@cloud9.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:30:14 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "analogue@hyperreal.org" , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , "nord-modular@code404.com" Subject: electrix blow-out update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I've just spent some time on the phone. Musician's Friends is completely out of Electrix stock and doesn't expect to receive any more - those of us that ordered from them (myself included) can forget it :( Sam Ash still has some of the units in stock (at least the Mo-fx and the eq killer), and is matching the sale price. Zzounds has 3 of the units in stock, but is not (yet) matching the sale price. I reported (through their "price spy" feature) the sale price on the mo-fx; perhaps they will come down. BTW, don't bother calling them; until it shows up at a lower price on the site, they can't be cajoled over the phone (at least not without better technique than mine!!!). If you want to grab these puppies at 80 or 100 dollars, you better move fast! I got "bargainitis" and ordered all five!!! (which I need like a hole-in-the-head ) Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:36:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00636; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:35:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:35:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de Message-ID: <000a01c0eb70$9c5d5240$25a090d4@StephenParsick> To: Subject: Electrix? Repeater? Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:11:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0EB44.02B20AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0EB44.02B20AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I=B4ve recently been following a thread on Analogue Heaven mailing list = where they were discussing the Electrix blow-out at Guitar Center. This = of course led to some speculations as to whether Electrix are still = doing business or are just about to shut their doors. Some folks claimed = they were blowing out all the filter and EQ stuff in order to = concentrate on the Repeater, others augured it was the last deed by a = company struggling with death. So what is it now? Anybody help me out = here? I mean, I=B4m pretty much fed up with waiting for another glorious = looping tool that, after all, won=B4t see the light of the day. TIA, Stephen. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0EB44.02B20AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
I=B4ve recently been following a thread = on Analogue=20 Heaven mailing list where they were discussing the Electrix blow-out at = Guitar=20 Center. This of course led to some speculations as to whether Electrix = are still=20 doing business or are just about to shut their doors. Some folks claimed = they=20 were blowing out all the filter and EQ stuff in order to concentrate on = the=20 Repeater, others augured it was the last deed by a company struggling = with=20 death. So what is it now? Anybody help me out here? I mean, I=B4m pretty = much fed=20 up with waiting for another glorious looping tool that, after all, = won=B4t see the=20 light of the day.
 
TIA,
 
Stephen.
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0EB44.02B20AE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:44:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01040; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:43:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:43:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:44:56 -0400 Subject: feedback pedal for EDP? From: Tommy Kochel To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The manual for the Echoplex Digital Pro mentions the "popular Boss FV-50" passive volume pedal for use as a feedback controller. I cannot find this specific pedal. Can anyone recommend another such pedal which you are certain will work in this function (say, from the Musician's Friend catalog perhaps)? Thanks. Tommy Kochel Touch Guitar (10-string Warr Guitar) Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro Roland GR-33 Guitar Synthesizer Ashbory Bass Ovation Acoustic/Electric Mandolin Jay Turser 5-string MM bass From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:54:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01246; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:53:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:53:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:52:06 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fc.7393e97.284a5796_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_fc.7393e97.284a5796_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all-This is Jon from Alto-The Repeater is coming!It should be shipping on or around June 15.We have a HUGE # on order and plan on filling orders as quickly as possible.From what I understand these units are ready to go and just waiting for the final software upgrade to be installed.Thanks for your patience-I should have more precise news shortly. --part1_fc.7393e97.284a5796_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all-This is Jon from Alto-The Repeater is coming!It should be shipping
on or around June 15.We have a HUGE # on order and plan on filling orders as
quickly as possible.From what I understand these units are ready to go and
just waiting for the final software upgrade to be installed.Thanks for your
patience-I should have more precise news shortly.
--part1_fc.7393e97.284a5796_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:03:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02457; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:01:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:01:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:53:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? Message-ID: <20010602.075327.-85119.2.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-18 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi jon, i'm on the repeater order list. do you know what the price is going to be yet? thanks! tony On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:52:06 EDT JHKNICKS@aol.com writes: > Hello all-This is Jon from Alto-The Repeater is coming!It should be > shipping > on or around June 15.We have a HUGE # on order and plan on filling > orders as > quickly as possible.From what I understand these units are ready to > go and > just waiting for the final software upgrade to be installed.Thanks > for your > patience-I should have more precise news shortly. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:06:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02784; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:05:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:05:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:04:46 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e.db27499.284a5a8e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e.db27499.284a5a8e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't want to disclose it until I am getting ready to ship-I can gurantee you will be happy.Thanks --part1_e.db27499.284a5a8e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't want to disclose it until I am getting ready to ship-I can gurantee
you will be happy.Thanks
--part1_e.db27499.284a5a8e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:15:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03044; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:13:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:13:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602080937.00aedec0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 08:09:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wavecomputer360@gmx.de (12:11 AM 06.02.2001) wrote: >I´ve recently been following a thread on Analogue Heaven mailing list >where they were discussing the Electrix blow-out at Guitar Center. This of >course led to some speculations as to whether Electrix are still doing >business or are just about to shut their doors. Some folks claimed they >were blowing out all the filter and EQ stuff in order to concentrate on >the Repeater, others augured it was the last deed by a company struggling >with death. So what is it now? Anybody help me out here? I mean, I´m >pretty much fed up with waiting for another glorious looping tool that, >after all, won´t see the light of the day. When Darwin (ddg@) posted the "last deed" email, I wrote to my contacts at Electrix. I got an answer back while the thread was still hot, and that response is what I had posted saying that Electrix is in fact discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. My contact also confirmed that Repeaters are built, packed in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still looking at shipping very soon. It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're seeing happen with Electrix. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:19:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03288; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:18:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:18:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:09:46 -0700 Subject: Re: electrix blow-out update Message-ID: <20010602.080947.-85119.6.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5,7-30 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so who'd you talk to elby? was that at sam ash? i just got off the phone with them and they said they had none in stock and couldn't get any. bummer... tony On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:30:14 -0400 Mountain Man writes: > Well, I've just spent some time on the phone. Musician's Friends is > completely out of Electrix stock and doesn't expect to receive any > more > - those of us that ordered from them (myself included) can forget it > :( Sam Ash still has some of the units in stock (at least the > Mo-fx > and the eq killer), and is matching the sale price. Zzounds has 3 > of > the units in stock, but is not (yet) matching the sale price. I > reported (through their "price spy" feature) the sale price on the > mo-fx; perhaps they will come down. BTW, don't bother calling them; > until it shows up at a lower price on the site, they can't be > cajoled > over the phone (at least not without better technique than mine!!!). > > If you want to grab these puppies at 80 or 100 dollars, you better > move > fast! I got "bargainitis" and ordered all five!!! (which I need > like a > hole-in-the-head ) > > Elby > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:59:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03797; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:57:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:57:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010602115612.007ba150@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:56:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: feedback pedal for EDP? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Musicians Friend carries the FV-50 in both low- and high-impedance models, product #'s 151317 and 151318 respectively. At 10:44 AM 6/2/01 -0400, you wrote: >The manual for the Echoplex Digital Pro mentions the "popular Boss FV-50" >passive volume pedal for use as a feedback controller. I cannot find this >specific pedal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 14:07:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08558; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:05:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:05:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:01:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Electrix blow-out update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just heard from my Electrix contact that Guitar Center and Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more stock. The stores may _NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more gear to them. It should ship from Electrix to them this coming week. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 14:18:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08859; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:17:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:17:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Eric Zang" To: Subject: amazing jaw harp cd Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:26:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For a great exclusively jaw/jew harp cd check this one out: Jew's Harps of the World by Tran Quang Hai Label: PlayaSound You can get it for less than $6 at www.cybermusicsurplus.com a good source for world music at typically $8-9 each cd. Has sound clips for most cds including the above. Get free shipping for orders $30 or over. Obviously I like this site. Eric Zang http://listen.to/zang World Music in AZ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 16:12:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12524; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:10:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:10:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004d01c0eb9e$a4d115a0$64b4a8c0@mindspring.com> From: "phalen orion" To: Subject: [southern california show] Epselon vs. Hilflos Kind June 2 & June 9 in Orange County Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:58:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Abstract DJ group Epselon vs. electronic experimental / new traditional sound artist Hilfos Kind for your listening pleasure there will be: live percussion, turntablism, flute, abstract layering, looping, feedback processing, circuit bent and homebuilt instruments ... this is not something to miss. THIS MUSIC IS ORGANIC, AND HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS CINEMATIC You can get a sample and hear more h.k. music by going to: http://www.hilfloskind.com/shows.html JUNE 2: 10:00 PM at AAA Electra 99 Art Gallery in Anaheim, CA 2821 E. WhiteStar Ave, Unit D http://www.aaaelectra99.com/ 714.666.1805 JUNE 9: 2:00 PM at the Lab Anti-Mall in Costa Mesa, CA 2930 Bristol Street http://www.antimall.com/ 714.966.6660 Call for directions, or visit each venue's website. If you have any questions, go ahead and reply to me personally. I hope to see you all at the show.... Best, phalen180 aka hilflos kind http://www.infin8ty.com/ -- oneinfin8tyzero: a digital artists collective http://www.hilfloskind.com/ -- hilflos kind: music for the human machine From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 16:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA13165; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:52:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:52:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:34:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:01 AM -0700 6/2/01, Mark Pulver wrote: >I just heard from my Electrix contact that Guitar Center and >Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more stock. The stores may >_NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more gear to them. > >It should ship from Electrix to them this coming week. > >Mark That jibes with what the customer service guy at MF told me. Lets hope. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 18:10:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16709; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:08:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:08:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: tri.tran@baesystems.com Content-return: allowed Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:07:44 -0500 Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out update To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0EBB0.73597D70" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EBB0.73597D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I went to my local Guitar Center and they told me the same thing. They have the same price is Musician's Friend. -----Original Message----- From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 3:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update At 11:01 AM -0700 6/2/01, Mark Pulver wrote: >I just heard from my Electrix contact that Guitar Center and >Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more stock. The stores may >_NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more gear to them. > >It should ship from Electrix to them this coming week. > >Mark That jibes with what the customer service guy at MF told me. Lets hope. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EBB0.73597D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Electrix blow-out update

I went to my local Guitar Center and they told me the = same thing.  They have the same price is Musician's Friend.

-----Original Message-----
From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com]<= /FONT>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 3:34 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update


At 11:01 AM -0700 6/2/01, Mark Pulver wrote:
>I just heard from my Electrix contact that = Guitar Center and
>Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more = stock. The stores may
>_NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more = gear to them.
>
>It should ship from Electrix to them this coming = week.
>
>Mark

That jibes with what the customer service guy at MF = told me. Lets hope.
--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. = The unreasonable man
persists in adapting the world to himself. = Therefore, all progress
depends on the unreasonable man.

--  George Bernard Shaw

        =         Emile = Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer  =         =         Image Processing = Specialist
Video for your HEAD!    =         =         Boris FX
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EBB0.73597D70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 19:28:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19777; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:25:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:25:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 16:22:39 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com FYI - Guitar Center in Sherman Oaks (L.A. area) has Electrix processors in stock at the blow-out price. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 20:10:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21527; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:08:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:08:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B190FD0.DE7284C0@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 16:09:52 +0000 From: joe & sheila Reply-To: onelonecrow@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com FYI #2 - Just got back from Guitar Center Sherman Oaks. Picked up the MO-FX after checking out the Electrix site to find that this unit has looping abilities. ( about 1 sec. ) Serious fun for the money. best to all joe Richard Zvonar wrote: > FYI - Guitar Center in Sherman Oaks (L.A. area) has Electrix > processors in stock at the blow-out price. > -- > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 20:13:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21651; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:12:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:12:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006901c0ebc2$42857840$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:15:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am happy to hear that people in some cities can experience what must be the profoundly marvelous experience of walking into a major name music store and walking out without feeling a little walletstung. Hopefully though for those of us in more remote areas the online counterparts will come through. Good luck to us all, I say. Jon > FYI - Guitar Center in Sherman Oaks (L.A. area) has Electrix > processors in stock at the blow-out price. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 22:04:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25289; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:02:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:02:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.20010602205417.27bf25ea@pclink.com> X-Sender: thissong@pclink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 20:54:17 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Helmen Subject: RC-20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, First time poster, though I've done a fair amound of lurking on the archives on the web. I'm not really a looper yet, but am hoping to get into it quite soon. Most of my performances are as a solo singer-songwriter playing acoustic guitar. My primary use of a looper would be to create grooves and backgrounds to solo over. There would be more to it than that, I know, but that's the main use. The LD4 looks great to me, with all the features and flexibilty I would need, except for the 14.4 second maximum on loops. So I've been intrigued by the RC-20. I tried it out for a while at Guitar Center today, with the clerk hanging right there, since they had just got one unit in and he was very interested himself. Having up to 5.5 minutes for a loop is a HUGE plus. I'm not interested in using any pre-recorded loops, so I think I could clear those out and have the entire memory available for a live loop. But there seems to be one main drawback as far as I can tell. With the LD4, when you are recording a loop and want to set the end point, depending on the switch you use you can have the loop start again either in play mode or overdub mode, a nice flexibility. But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same flexibilty. You set the end point of the loop and have it restart by hitting the left switch. This leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode on the LD4. To get into overdub mode you have to hit the same switch again. I imagine with practice one could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd never be able to get to a mode where you're overdubbing right from the re-start of the loop. This seems like it would be a real pain. I'd love to know there is a way around this. The other thing is the lack of the function the expression pedal adds to the LD4 of controlling the loop level. The question is whether the much longer loop time compensates for this. I'm thinking it might end up doing do for me. But if someone could tell me I'm missing something about how to go right into overdub mode, that would be great... Tim Helmen Debut CD "Room For Cream" available June 2001 info at http://TimHelmen.com tim@TimHelmen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 22:12:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25638; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:10:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:10:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.181] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 02:09:23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2001 02:09:23.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[35584250:01C0EBD2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Oooops, I forgot that I am such a "Computer Nerd". Typing Of The Dead, is a video game, from those fine folks at SEGA. It's based on the 'House Of The Dead" video games, which you have probably seen being played in your local arcade, or movie house. Well this game is different, instead of out-right shooting the Axe wielding Zombie, words appear under the baddie, and to kill him, you have to "Type" the word (on your keyboard) to dispose of him. Download it from http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-1635591-100-4588416.html?tag=st.dl.10001-103-1.lst-7-1.4588416 . It helps with your typin skills, and the words that pop up, aren't your typical "Run Jane Run" level words... try typing "xenodochium" while a puss oozing Zombie with an Axe is running toward you !

----Original Message Follows----
From: lance glover
Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 15:41:20 -0700
Devious D_MasterMixer wrote:
>
>
> Touche' my man... I think I used the wrong "word" in describing the
> info that floats through these post "ARCHAIC", was not the word I
> wanted. It was 4:00 am, and I was play "Typing Of The Dead", and I
> went a little, bonkers. I wanted to use a word that meant "of obscure
> nature", but I slipped..... sorry.
>
hey
i wuz jus riding you a bit. no worries!
lance g.
ps: yes, matt davignon is his real name...but i think his eyebrows are
fake...
pps: sorry to be a dweeb, but what's "typing of the dead"? is this some
kind of j. garcia seance on an old IBM?


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 22:17:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26198; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:16:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:16:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.181] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] TRADE-Sound Effects ? Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 02:15:36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2001 02:15:36.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[13C52D50:01C0EBD3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I need some help with a sound effect, that I had gotten on tape, with a JVC tape deck (back in 1984). The effect was of a Train, but the clarity, and production level were really good. The tape was destroyed, and the effect's name has been forgotten by me. I used it a lot in mixes as a transition effect, (back then, to hide the glitches in my mixes... I was young, dumb, and full of...) well I want that effect. It was of some Japanese train, that is all I remember about the effect. Anyone remember this one ?

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From: "tim.dalchau"
Reply-To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com
To:
Subject: Re: [Samplestation] TRADE
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:42:14 +0100
Hi there. I'm up for it what do you want?


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 02:39:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00700; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:36:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:36:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B19DAAE.1FA612D6@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 23:35:30 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> <006901c0ebc2$42857840$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com btw, The Guitar Center owns Musician's friend. I must say that I got a warpfactory (too much fun!) and a mo-fx (even though I have gear that already does most of what it does, at that price who could resist?) at the Guitar Center in Concord CA, they may still have some... Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 02:46:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00876; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:44:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:44:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Barr Plexico" To: Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out update Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:45:50 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: <3B19DAAE.1FA612D6@zerocrossing.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks to the tip from this list I was able to get a Filter Factory, Mo-FX, and EQ Killer today at the GC in Concord, had to hunt around for a while as they had the boxes laying innocently at the floor of the counter without any sign denoting they were on sale (still had the list price stickers on them), unfortunately they were out on the Warp Factory - but what a deal for $300...! As Mark said, at those prices how can one resist? -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:36 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update btw, The Guitar Center owns Musician's friend. I must say that I got a warpfactory (too much fun!) and a mo-fx (even though I have gear that already does most of what it does, at that price who could resist?) at the Guitar Center in Concord CA, they may still have some... Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 07:06:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09100; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:03:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:03:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1A19BB.BAAE058C@cloud9.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 07:04:28 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #273 References: <200106030646.CAA00941@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tony, I called my local sam ash in White Plains, NY. They told me they have a "mess of" mo-fx's, and at least at that point had the eq-killer as well. Good luck. Elby Subject: Re: electrix blow-out update Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:09:46 -0700 From: Tony Moore To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com so who'd you talk to elby? was that at sam ash? i just got off the phone with them and they said they had none in stock and couldn't get any. bummer... tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 09:07:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11841; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:05:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:05:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002701c0ec2d$0060c800$0a00a8c0@telocity.net> From: "Mark Woodford" To: "Tim Helmen" , References: <3.0.5.16.20010602205417.27bf25ea@pclink.com> Subject: Re: RC-20 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:59:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com To record a loop and NOT have it start looping right away you just have to press the RIGHT footswitch. When you are recording: RIGHT footswitch = STOP recording LEFT footswitch = STOP recording, START repeating ---mark http://woodford-way.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Helmen" To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: RC-20 snip > But there seems to be one main drawback as far as I can tell. With the LD4, > when you are recording a loop and want to set the end point, depending on > the switch you use you can have the loop start again either in play mode or > overdub mode, a nice flexibility. > > But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same flexibilty. You set the > end point of the loop and have it restart by hitting the left switch. This > leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode on the LD4. To get into > overdub mode you have to hit the same switch again. I imagine with practice > one could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd never be able to > get to a mode where you're overdubbing right from the re-start of the loop. > > This seems like it would be a real pain. I'd love to know there is a way > around this. > snip From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 10:58:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14332; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:56:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:56:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007e01c0ec3c$c18844e0$99456f40@oemcomputer> From: "petr" To: "Tommy Kochel" , References: Subject: Re: feedback pedal for EDP? Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:51:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: petr@tryi.com X-Return-Path: petr@tryi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Subject: feedback pedal for EDP? I am using Proel PVP 14 L. It can be ordered from MF or elsewhere, it is very cheap and seems quite reliable. _________________________________________ Petr Dolák music * poetry * guitar looping * commodion * percussion web site: www.geocities.com/pepetr music samples: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/229/petr_dolak_samojsky.html > The manual for the Echoplex Digital Pro mentions the "popular Boss FV-50" > passive volume pedal for use as a feedback controller. I cannot find this > specific pedal. Can anyone recommend another such pedal which you are > certain will work in this function (say, from the Musician's Friend catalog > perhaps)? > > Thanks. > > Tommy Kochel > Touch Guitar (10-string Warr Guitar) > Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro > Roland GR-33 Guitar Synthesizer > Ashbory Bass > Ovation Acoustic/Electric Mandolin > Jay Turser 5-string MM bass > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 11:25:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15825; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:24:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:24:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c0ec41$37e8b1c0$8b83abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: Subject: midi continous control Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:23:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi guys, I digged in the archive, but I couldn't find the postings related to this topic: when using midi continous control by pedals (like ev-5 or any other voltage ones), it happens the complete midi range is not reached. a 10 K. potentiometer arrives to the 75/84 % of the range. i remember we discussed about the modifications we had to do in the potentiometer's resistance, but i don't find any trace of it. someone has a better memory ? thanks for the time, luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 11:39:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16032; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:38:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:38:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:31:00 -0700 Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update Message-ID: <20010603.083101.-136421.0.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-8,10-35 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com fwiw, the guitar center in hollywood also has all the electrix stuff at the m-f price. i too fell prey :-( tho' i spent some time with the filter factory and mo-fx last night and wow, they are indeed fun. i'm going out today to buy two more. these are very useful toys! thanks for the tip! tony On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:34:11 -0400 "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" writes: > At 11:01 AM -0700 6/2/01, Mark Pulver wrote: > >I just heard from my Electrix contact that Guitar Center and > >Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more stock. The stores may > >_NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more gear to them. > > > >It should ship from Electrix to them this coming week. > > > >Mark > > That jibes with what the customer service guy at MF told me. Lets > hope. > -- > > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable > man > persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress > depends on the unreasonable man. > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 11:58:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16309; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:57:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:57:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:49:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #273 Message-ID: <20010603.084907.-136421.5.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-6,8-36 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks elby! i found them at a local guitar center (hollywood), but had to pay that nasty 8% cali sales tax... take care, tony On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 07:04:28 -0400 Mountain Man writes: > Tony, I called my local sam ash in White Plains, NY. They told me > they have a "mess of" mo-fx's, and at least at that point had the > eq-killer as well. Good luck. > > Elby > > > Subject: > Re: electrix blow-out update > Date: > Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:09:46 -0700 > From: > Tony Moore > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > so who'd you talk to elby? was that at sam ash? i just got off the > phone > > with them and they said they had none in stock and couldn't get any. > bummer... > > tony > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 13:17:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19288; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:15:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:15:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.20010603120749.2c772a2c@pclink.com> X-Sender: thissong@pclink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 12:07:49 To: "Mark Woodford" , From: Tim Helmen Subject: Re: RC-20 In-Reply-To: <002701c0ec2d$0060c800$0a00a8c0@telocity.net> References: <3.0.5.16.20010602205417.27bf25ea@pclink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 07:59 AM 6/3/01 -0500, Mark Woodford wrote: >To record a loop and NOT have it start looping right away >you just have to press the RIGHT footswitch. > >When you are recording: > RIGHT footswitch = STOP recording > LEFT footswitch = STOP recording, START repeating > Correct. But what I want to be able to do is have it start looping immediately, but to be in overdub mode at the same time. With the RC-20, what you seem to have to do is hit the left switch to start repeating right away, which will be in play mode, and then hit the same switch again to get into overdub mode. Once in overdub mode, it keeps looping, allowing you to add as many layers as you want, until you either stop or switch out of overdub mode. So that's cool. The problem is you can't go from your original pass right into overdub mode at the top of the loop. Tim Helmen Debut CD "Room For Cream" available June 2001 info at http://TimHelmen.com tim@TimHelmen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 13:19:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19387; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:18:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:18:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <65.15480c57.284bcace@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:15:58 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com afaik, there's nothing wrong w/electrix..... other than what might be considered 'usual', for the moderately brain-bent. fweep, splatt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 14:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21522; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:20:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:20:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1A7FCF.3B22F479@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 11:20:04 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? References: <65.15480c57.284bcace@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7xtGnB.A.HQF.b_nG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, If anyone want's insight into the world of gear manufacturing, pick up the book "Vintage Synthesizers: Groundbreaking Instruments and Pioneering Designers of Electronic Music Synthesizers by Mark Vail" it's a very fun read. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0879302755/qid=991592099/sr=1-2/ref=sc_b_2/002-4495200-3041626 Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 14:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21521; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:20:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:20:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:19:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d9.15681bc9.284bd9c6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d9.15681bc9.284bd9c6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit help.....who can i e-mail to get these tasty morsels, none of the stores here in pittsburgh have them and i just got off the phone with MF and they are out and according to this fellow will not be getting more in (im aware that there was a post to the contrary here on LD).....any help would be wonderful.....thanks.....michael --part1_d9.15681bc9.284bd9c6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit help.....who can i e-mail to get these tasty morsels, none of the stores here
in pittsburgh have them and i just got off the phone with MF and they are out
and according to this fellow will not be getting more in (im aware that there
was a post to the contrary here on LD).....any help would be
wonderful.....thanks.....michael
--part1_d9.15681bc9.284bd9c6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 16:07:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25872; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:04:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:04:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000301c0eb9f$1798ef40$7aaa5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #219 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:02:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #219 May 31, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank Concert series in the UK. The feature CD at midnight was the disc by Paul Nagle from the Neu Harmony six CDR set, Concerts at Jodrell Bank. Jodrell Bank Concert http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#may PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Spacecraft Fragile Cybersphere (SpaceForMusic.com) Spacecraft Tunnel Cybersphere (SpaceForMusic.com) Spacecraft House of Gaudi Cybersphere (SpaceForMusic.com) VA [Pete Namlook] Mindlab Zeitlos (Waldorf Records) VA [Tranzit] Cold Trip Sequences No. 25 (none) VA [Dweller at the World Without End Dreamwatchers' Tales (none) Threshold] Tranquillity Harbinger Core (Invisible Shadows) OZMA Actualia 1 A Hige and Silent Place (Atomic City) OZMA Lalande 21185 A Hige and Silent Place (Atomic City) 12:00 am Under The Dome Launch UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome Drift UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome Flussiger Vier-Takter UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome The Long Rain UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome Demon Haunted Megamix UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome 4Q2ND UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on the German trio Pyramid Peak. The feature CD at midnight will be "Random Elements" on Torsten Kuhn's Invisible Shadows record label. Pyramid Peak http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 16:13:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26068; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:11:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:11:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <82.b756f59.284bf3ed@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:11:25 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_82.b756f59.284bf3ed_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <9R4q3B.A.JXG.znpG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_82.b756f59.284bf3ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not to beat a dead horse, and to make a long story short.....:).....went to MF web site and just ordered the goodies and it said on the site backordered till 6-10-01.....so i assume they will be getting another shipment.....i put this order on my mastercard.....then i called MF on the phone to cancel a guitar stand that i purchased earlier in the day out of frustration for them not having the electrix gear and them saying they were not getting any in.....very poor in house comunications, web site different than live people (go figure).....now here is the good part, i asked if i could get one of their MF creditcards (no interest for 90 days) and take my order off my mastercard, "yes we can do that" spoketh the young lady and they gave me an additional 5% off the 99$ sale price for getting their card.....IF this all works out, i will once again be totally amazed by our wonderful system of doing business in this country.....:).....i may never leave my room again.....michael --part1_82.b756f59.284bf3ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not to beat a dead horse, and to make a long story short.....:).....went to
MF web site and just ordered the goodies and it said on the site backordered
till 6-10-01.....so i assume they will be getting another shipment.....i put
this order on my mastercard.....then i called MF on the phone to cancel a
guitar stand that i purchased earlier in the day out of frustration for them
not having the electrix gear and them saying they were not getting any
in.....very poor in house comunications, web site different than live people
(go figure).....now here is the good part, i asked if i could get one of
their MF creditcards (no interest for 90 days) and take my order off my
mastercard, "yes we can do that" spoketh the young lady and they gave me an
additional 5% off the 99$ sale price for getting their card.....IF this all
works out, i will once again be totally amazed by our wonderful system of
doing business in this country.....:).....i may never leave my room
again.....michael
--part1_82.b756f59.284bf3ed_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 17:23:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27803; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:14:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:14:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010603211426.3397.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: re: RC-20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 20:54:17 From: tim@timhelmen.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RC-20 >>My primary use of a looper would be to create grooves and backgrounds to solo over. There would be more to it than that, I know, but that's the main use. There seems to be one main drawback as far as I can tell. With the LD4, when you are recording a loop and want to set the end point, depending on the switch you use you can have the loop start again either in play mode or overdub mode, a nice flexibility.<< Hi Tim, the RC-20 will enable you to be precise with loop timing but you are right, you have to for the most part loop by ear, it also doesn't have a delete mode for overdubs so you have to be really careful in what you play for through composed music. The LD4 does a better job but as you already know has brief loop times. For live use you have to look at more expensive solutions. I prefer the Boomerang because although you have to learn to get your loops together you can have two different loops, what's more you have slower speeds, down to one octave which, if you record at will play guitar and bass with good fidelity while giving you close to 4 minutes of loop time. As for the RC-20 you can pre-program your songs and break down compositions to the 10 different memory structures, but that's not nearly enough for a full set if that's what you intend to do. Also, there is a lot of foot dancing going on with the RC-20. Personally, I like it as a tabletop unit although live I may just use it as a floor system. In my project studio it's usually on the desktop. >> But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same flexibilty. You set the end point of the loop and have it restart by hitting the left switch. This leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode on the LD4. To get into overdub mode you have to hit the same switch again. I imagine with practice one could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd never be able to get to a mode where you're overdubbing right from the re-start of the loop. << This is correct, but it is very easy to overdub as you are working, example; I make a loop, I press the left footswitch and the RC-20 plays back my previous music. I can tap the pedal as the loop is playing and overdub as I see fit. Again, you need to move up in price to get the features you are discussing. The Echoplex line has some nice features but are difficult to find and not always the most realtime friendly. I like the Boomerang but don't want to make this a commercial for the product. Even if you chose that device you'd still be unable to loop without immediately replaying. IMO any inexpensive looper will require some adptation, especially learning how to loop realtime and seamlessly. It can be done, it just takes a bit of practice. >> This seems like it would be a real pain. I'd love to know there is a way around this. << Not really. You could use the memory locations and switch between them, that's about it. >> The other thing is the lack of the function the expression pedal adds to the LD4 of controlling the loop level. << Yes, this is a serious oversight although you can control the pedal's loop level if you use it as a desktop unit, there are controls for inputs on the mic and instrument inputs and for the loop level, you just can't get to them with the pedal on the floor. >> The question is whether the much longer loop time compensates for this. I'm thinking it might end up doing do for me. But if someone could tell me I'm missing something about how to go right into overdub mode, that would be great... << You only have a minimal lag if you are not tying the RC-20 to auto quantize. Played without timing features you press the left pedal and you start looping, press agan and end the loop, you have to get it right but that probably won't be as hard as you may think. All you have to do to overdub is press the left pedal as you like to hit overdub mode. You don't have the luxury of access to existing controls beyond an optional footpedal for reverse and clicking forward through the saved loops. The LM4 isn't any easier to use IMO, again, the next step up for on the fly use is the Rang and is more expensive but has a control for loop level on the footpedal, lets you program it for 2 different loops and whether it's hi or lo fidelity. But you will pay another $200 for these features. The LM4 is nice as a taste of looping but if you have any kind of effects unit such as a GT series from Boss or Korg's AX1000G you can get many of the same effects found in the LM4 as well some good amp and cabinet simulations for about $250 - 300 USD. One thing to consider, the RC-20 can get noisy in it's output. It's not noticible when in a mix but as your sole pedal and if you're using it for song structures you will need a gate to keep it quiet. Hope this helps, Bruce http://www.artistlaunch.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 18:27:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29681; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:15:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:15:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:05:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EC3E.9D4AB3E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <82.b756f59.284bf3ed@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EC3E.9D4AB3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since we're telling stories like this. I went to my local GC yesterday in Portland OR, circling that display rack yesterday like a vulture, and it was down to the bones, picked pretty clean. Bought their last Mo-FX, demo for $90, no box or manual. FYI, All the manuals are downloadable PDFs from www.electrixpro.com They said there were plenty of units around in their northwest warehouses, so I should have a Filter Factory in a few days. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Nemoguitt@aol.com [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:11 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out not to beat a dead horse, and to make a long story short.....:).....went to MF web site and just ordered the goodies and it said on the site backordered till 6-10-01.....so i assume they will be getting another shipment.....i put this order on my mastercard.....then i called MF on the phone to cancel a guitar stand that i purchased earlier in the day out of frustration for them not having the electrix gear and them saying they were not getting any in.....very poor in house comunications, web site different than live people (go figure).....now here is the good part, i asked if i could get one of their MF creditcards (no interest for 90 days) and take my order off my mastercard, "yes we can do that" spoketh the young lady and they gave me an additional 5% off the 99$ sale price for getting their card.....IF this all works out, i will once again be totally amazed by our wonderful system of doing business in this country.....:).....i may never leave my room again.....michael ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EC3E.9D4AB3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since=20 we're telling stories like this. I went to my local GC yesterday in = Portland OR,=20 circling=20 that display rack yesterday like a vulture, and it was down to the = bones, picked=20 pretty clean.  Bought their last Mo-FX, demo for = $90, no=20 box or manual. FYI, All the manuals are downloadable PDFs from www.electrixpro.com  They = said there=20 were plenty of units around in their northwest warehouses, so I should = have a=20 Filter Factory in a few days.
 
Neil
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:11=20 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 Electrix blow-out

not to beat a dead horse, and to make a long story=20 short.....:).....went to
MF web site and just ordered the goodies = and it=20 said on the site backordered
till 6-10-01.....so i assume they = will be=20 getting another shipment.....i put
this order on my = mastercard.....then i=20 called MF on the phone to cancel a
guitar stand that i purchased = earlier=20 in the day out of frustration for them
not having the electrix = gear and=20 them saying they were not getting any
in.....very poor in house=20 comunications, web site different than live people
(go = figure).....now=20 here is the good part, i asked if i could get one of
their MF = creditcards=20 (no interest for 90 days) and take my order off my
mastercard, = "yes we can=20 do that" spoketh the young lady and they gave me an
additional 5% = off the=20 99$ sale price for getting their card.....IF this all
works out, i = will=20 once again be totally amazed by our wonderful system of
doing = business in=20 this country.....:).....i may never leave my room =
again.....michael
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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EC3E.9D4AB3E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 21:31:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03185; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:29:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:29:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: <31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:28:29 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i too did not resist - got the 3 big pieces plus eq killer for $379 - at sam ash huntington (ny) - now experimenting with them - what a stroke of good fortune! harry --part1_31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i too did not resist - got the 3 big pieces plus eq killer for $379 - at sam
ash huntington (ny) - now experimenting with them - what a stroke of good
fortune!

harry
--part1_31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 22:51:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05441; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:50:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:50:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PA5CALIO@aol.com Message-ID: <6e.b232173.284c5129@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:49:13 EDT Subject: Random Music Generator Software Questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6e.b232173.284c5129_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_6e.b232173.284c5129_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody! I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music. I've been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko. I have two questions. 1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? 2) I want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow me to do this. I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but does anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run multiple sound programs with only one soundcard? Thanks a lot -pascal --part1_6e.b232173.284c5129_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody!

I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my
rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music.  I've
been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko.  I have two questions.

1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators?

2) I want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow
me to do this.  I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but does
anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run multiple sound
programs with only one soundcard?

Thanks a lot
-pascal
--part1_6e.b232173.284c5129_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 00:22:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08890; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:20:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:20:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1B0E75.419C@Hevanet.Com.> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 21:28:38 -0700 From: DaViD AuKeR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out update References: <200106040131.VAA03246@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My thanks, also, for this list pointing me in the direction of the great deal on the Filter Factory...I've been wanting one for a long time! Also will try the EQ Killer. David Synth/flute/EDP/DL4... "Barr Plexico" said: > > Thanks to the tip from this list I was able to get a Filter Factory, Mo-FX, > and EQ Killer today at the GC in Concord, had to hunt around for a while as > they had the boxes laying innocently at the floor of the counter without any > sign denoting they were on sale (still had the list price stickers on them), > unfortunately they were out on the Warp Factory - but what a deal for > $300...! As Mark said, at those prices how can one resist? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 00:37:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09331; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:36:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:36:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010603224052.007d71d0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:40:52 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: RC-20 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.20010602205417.27bf25ea@pclink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <3DOIxD.A.mQC.-AxG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tim, actually, the DL-4 allows for a 28 sec. looptime. If you switch it into it's "slower" mode, before you record a loop, the time is doubled. So far, I've not noticed any loss of fidelity. As for the RC-20 specifics, I'm not completely familiar with them, but it seems to me you'd be able to record a blank loop of your desired time, terminate it, and then restart it in record mode, but then actually begin recording sound. -Hope this made some sense, and might be of some help. -Good luck!, K? Smiles, G At 08:54 PM 6/2/01, you wrote: >Hi, > >First time poster, though I've done a fair amound of lurking on the >archives on the web. > >I'm not really a looper yet, but am hoping to get into it quite soon. Most >of my performances are as a solo singer-songwriter playing acoustic guitar. >My primary use of a looper would be to create grooves and backgrounds to >solo over. There would be more to it than that, I know, but that's the main >use. > >The LD4 looks great to me, with all the features and flexibilty I would >need, except for the 14.4 second maximum on loops. So I've been intrigued >by the RC-20. > >I tried it out for a while at Guitar Center today, with the clerk hanging >right there, since they had just got one unit in and he was very interested >himself. > >Having up to 5.5 minutes for a loop is a HUGE plus. I'm not interested in >using any pre-recorded loops, so I think I could clear those out and have >the entire memory available for a live loop. > >But there seems to be one main drawback as far as I can tell. With the LD4, >when you are recording a loop and want to set the end point, depending on >the switch you use you can have the loop start again either in play mode or >overdub mode, a nice flexibility. > >But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same flexibilty. You set the >end point of the loop and have it restart by hitting the left switch. This >leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode on the LD4. To get into >overdub mode you have to hit the same switch again. I imagine with practice >one could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd never be able to >get to a mode where you're overdubbing right from the re-start of the loop. > >This seems like it would be a real pain. I'd love to know there is a way >around this. > >The other thing is the lack of the function the expression pedal adds to >the LD4 of controlling the loop level. > >The question is whether the much longer loop time compensates for this. I'm >thinking it might end up doing do for me. But if someone could tell me I'm >missing something about how to go right into overdub mode, that would be >great... > > > > >Tim Helmen >Debut CD "Room For Cream" available June 2001 >info at http://TimHelmen.com >tim@TimHelmen.com > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 01:15:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA11063; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 01:14:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 01:14:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: Random Music Generator Software Questions Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:13:13 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0ECF8.1C850CA0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <6e.b232173.284c5129@aol.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0ECF8.1C850CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On a PC anyway, any sound card with direct sound drivers in later versions of windows will allow multiple feeds into your card. as long as your programs use the ds drivers mutliple programs can use the drivers at once and mixing is done by the drivers. otherwise you need a card with multiclient drivers and they start getting expensive. as for programs, try out softstep. its an algorithmic modular midi sequencer, and while not audio per se, it has some amazing features including random generators, fractal generators, bouncing balls. its eminently tweakable. coupled with some good homemade sample sets and you have a winning combination, imho. its at http://algoart.com/. pc only tho, i think. hope this helps omjn -----Original Message----- From: PA5CALIO@aol.com [mailto:PA5CALIO@aol.com] Sent: Monday, 4 June 2001 10:49 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Random Music Generator Software Questions Hi Everybody! I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music. I've been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko. I have two questions. 1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? 2) I want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow me to do this. I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but does anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run multiple sound programs with only one soundcard? Thanks a lot -pascal ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0ECF8.1C850CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On a = PC anyway,=20 any sound card with direct sound drivers in later versions of windows = will allow=20 multiple feeds into your card.  as long as your programs use the ds = drivers=20 mutliple programs can use the drivers at once and mixing is done by the=20 drivers.  otherwise you need a card with multiclient drivers and = they start=20 getting expensive. 
 
as = for programs,=20 try out softstep.  its an algorithmic modular midi sequencer, and = while not=20 audio per se, it has some amazing features including random generators, = fractal=20 generators, bouncing balls.  its eminently tweakable.  coupled = with=20 some good homemade sample sets and you have a winning combination, = imho. =20 its at http://algoart.com/. =20 pc only tho, i think.
 
hope = this=20 helps
 
omjn
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PA5CALIO@aol.com=20 [mailto:PA5CALIO@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, 4 June 2001 10:49=20 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Random=20 Music Generator Software Questions

Hi Everybody!

I've recently gotten into = using=20 random music generator software with my
rather exxtravagent loop=20 collection to create noisey/chaotic music.  I've
been using = Sound=20 Raider and this program Saiko.  I have two questions.

1) = Does=20 anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? =

2) I=20 want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow =
me=20 to do this.  I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but = does=20
anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run = multiple sound=20
programs with only one soundcard?

Thanks a lot =
-pascal
=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0ECF8.1C850CA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 05:31:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA18576; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:28:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:28:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010603211426.3397.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 02:27:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: re: RC-20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 or whatever other variations you guys are experimenting with... At 2:14 PM -0700 6/3/01, Bruce Satinover wrote: >From: tim@timhelmen.com >> But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same >>flexibilty. You set the end point of the loop and have >>it restart by hitting the left switch. >>This leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode >>on the LD4. To get into overdub mode you have to hit >>the same switch again. I imagine with practice one >>could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd >>never be able to get to a mode where you're >>overdubbing right from the re-start of the >>loop. > >This is correct, but it is very easy to overdub as you >are working, example; I make a loop, I press the left >footswitch and the RC-20 plays back my previous music. >I can tap the pedal as the loop is playing and overdub >as I see fit. fwiw, I think you missed Tim's point there. He wants to have the choice to be immediately overdubbing after he ends record. This technique is commonly used in textural loops, where you want some sustained sound to continue from the end of the loop into the beginning of the loop to make a seamless feel. Also if you were doing some sort of counterpoint thing, you might want to immediately overdub the second line as the loop starts repeating. So you continue to play as you end record enter overdub, and your playing is continuouly added to the loop. I think most loopers do this in some way, and certainly any cheap delay pedal does. It sounds like the RC-20 can't do this after the first loop record without introducing a gap in the overdub as you tap the button a second time to get into overdub. That may be a major problem or no problem at all, depending on what kind of looping you want to do. >Again, you need to move up in price to get the >features you are discussing. hmm, not really. I'm sure they could have done it on the rc-20 if they thought about it. It's just a question of how the user interface is programmed to work. >The Echoplex line has >some nice features but are difficult to find and not >always the most realtime friendly. I think echoplexes are pretty easy to find these days, since Gibson is producing a lot more of them now than they used to. The echoplex is pretty much entirely designed to be real-time friendly, so I'm not sure how you got that impression. In this case, it is probably a good example of what Tim is after. The echoplex always allows you to transition from one function immediately to another with one button press. You never have press a button to end one function then press another button to start the next, so it keeps the foot-tapping to a minimum. So if you are recording a loop, you simply end by pressing whatever function you want to go into. The echoplex stops the record for you, starts the loop repeating, and the new function you want is on, all with one button press. For example, if you end the record by pressing overdub, the loop starts repeating with overdub on. End record with reverse, and it is immediately reversing, etc. Similar with other functions, like going from mulitply right into insert or replace or whatever. To me, that is real-time friendly, because whatever you want to do you just hit it and you're there, with only one button tap. The machine takes care of all the steps in between for you. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 08:03:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22926; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:01:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:01:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <3b.158cda75.284cd26a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:00:42 EDT Subject: Re: RC-20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com of all the stuff that x_bruce@yahoo.com wrote, i quote this bit alone: >The Echoplex line has >some nice features but are difficult to find and not >always the most realtime friendly. hmmm..... can't agree, there. i've found the echoplex incredibly easy to 'use', & certainly more feature-rich than most other 'looping'-devices, onna 'par'-basis: record, overdub, reverse, new end point, new start point, undo, next loop, trigger, re-trigger, midi-sync, etc etc, all at simple foot-taps, without too much digging. (though, 'digging' will *certainly* offer the end-user some satisfaction that boomerang, dl4, rc20 cannot provide.....) mon deux centimes..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 09:13:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24675; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:11:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:11:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:03:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty getting a 'plex in the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top sales guy for Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as Gil, the sales guy in the Simpson's. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] > Sent: 04 June 2001 13:01 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: RC-20 > > > of all the stuff that x_bruce@yahoo.com wrote, i quote this bit alone: > >The Echoplex line has > >some nice features but are difficult to find and not > >always the most realtime friendly. > hmmm..... can't agree, there. > i've found the echoplex incredibly easy to 'use', & certainly more > feature-rich than most other 'looping'-devices, onna 'par'-basis: > record, overdub, reverse, new end point, new start point, > undo, next loop, > trigger, re-trigger, midi-sync, etc etc, > all at simple foot-taps, without too much digging. > (though, 'digging' will *certainly* offer the end-user some > satisfaction that > boomerang, dl4, rc20 cannot provide.....) > mon deux centimes..... > best, > dt / s-c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 09:19:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24818; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:18:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:18:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1B7@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:20:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I just purchased the echoplex on Friday and I love it. I got turned on to "looping" in the early seventies when the best loops we could make were done on a reel-to-reel tape deck by splicing the tape together. I spent the whole weekend mesmerized by it... I love this site and hope to learn more! Weg -----Original Message----- From: Andy Ewen [mailto:andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:03 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: RC-20 Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty getting a 'plex in the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top sales guy for Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as Gil, the sales guy in the Simpson's. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] > Sent: 04 June 2001 13:01 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: RC-20 > > > of all the stuff that x_bruce@yahoo.com wrote, i quote this bit alone: > >The Echoplex line has > >some nice features but are difficult to find and not > >always the most realtime friendly. > hmmm..... can't agree, there. > i've found the echoplex incredibly easy to 'use', & certainly more > feature-rich than most other 'looping'-devices, onna 'par'-basis: > record, overdub, reverse, new end point, new start point, > undo, next loop, > trigger, re-trigger, midi-sync, etc etc, > all at simple foot-taps, without too much digging. > (though, 'digging' will *certainly* offer the end-user some > satisfaction that > boomerang, dl4, rc20 cannot provide.....) > mon deux centimes..... > best, > dt / s-c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 09:35:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25080; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:34:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:34:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:25:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Great!, tell all your friends; I've just been informed that Gibson have over 200 in their warehouse in Chicago. These need to be sold so we can get paid this month :-)). > -----Original Message----- > From: Wegmann, Greg [mailto:Greg.Wegmann@Camcare.com] > Sent: 04 June 2001 14:20 > To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' > Subject: RE: RC-20 > > > Hi all, > I just purchased the echoplex on Friday and I love it. I > got turned on > to "looping" in the early seventies when the best loops we > could make were > done on a reel-to-reel tape deck by splicing the tape > together. I spent the > whole weekend mesmerized by it... I love this site and hope > to learn more! > > > Weg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Ewen [mailto:andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:03 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: RC-20 > > > Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty > getting a 'plex in > the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top > sales guy for > Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as > Gil, the sales > guy in the Simpson's. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] > > Sent: 04 June 2001 13:01 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: RC-20 > > > > > > of all the stuff that x_bruce@yahoo.com wrote, i quote this > bit alone: > > >The Echoplex line has > > >some nice features but are difficult to find and not > > >always the most realtime friendly. > > hmmm..... can't agree, there. > > i've found the echoplex incredibly easy to 'use', & certainly more > > feature-rich than most other 'looping'-devices, onna 'par'-basis: > > record, overdub, reverse, new end point, new start point, > > undo, next loop, > > trigger, re-trigger, midi-sync, etc etc, > > all at simple foot-taps, without too much digging. > > (though, 'digging' will *certainly* offer the end-user some > > satisfaction that > > boomerang, dl4, rc20 cannot provide.....) > > mon deux centimes..... > > best, > > dt / s-c > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 09:40:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25351; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:38:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:38:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: THusken@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.162751df.284ce921@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:37:37 EDT Subject: dt sighting? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3f.162751df.284ce921_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10524 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_3f.162751df.284ce921_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -a little off-topic but I had to ask...isn't that a David Torn sample being used quite judiciously during the chorus of that new Madonna single "That what it's like for a girl" ...or something like that. Ok, ok; so my stereo slipped off public radio for a moment! (-what about dt?) -Todd --part1_3f.162751df.284ce921_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -a little off-topic but I had to ask...isn't that a David Torn sample being
used quite judiciously during the chorus of that new Madonna single "That
what it's like for a girl" ...or something like that.  Ok, ok; so my stereo
slipped off public radio for a moment!  (-what about dt?)  -Todd
--part1_3f.162751df.284ce921_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 11:51:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29640; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:48:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:48:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:47:47 EDT Subject: OT: Re: dt sighting? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 06/04/2001 9:38:38 AM, THusken@aol.com writes: >-a little off-topic but I had to ask...isn't that a David Torn sample being >used quite judiciously during the chorus of that new Madonna single "That >what it's like for a girl" ...or something like that. Ok, ok; so my stereo >slipped off public radio for a moment! (-what about dt?) -Todd actually..... that's the second time i've heard that remark in the last 24hours; gotta check it out..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 12:29:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31492; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:27:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:27:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010604103100.0090a740@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:31:00 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: OT: Re: dt sighting? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, here's the third time then! lol! I've been thinking that for weeks now. lol! I tried checking with a local DJ I know, but he wasn't sure. Smiles, G At 11:47 AM 6/4/01 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 06/04/2001 9:38:38 AM, THusken@aol.com writes: > >>-a little off-topic but I had to ask...isn't that a David Torn sample being >>used quite judiciously during the chorus of that new Madonna single "That >>what it's like for a girl" ...or something like that. Ok, ok; so my stereo >>slipped off public radio for a moment! (-what about dt?) -Todd >actually..... >that's the second time i've heard that remark in the last 24hours; >gotta check it out..... >best, >dt / s-c > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 13:05:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00861; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:03:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:03:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011f01c0ed18$018fe760$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> <3.0.5.32.20010601190537.007c8520@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: XLR volume pedal? Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:01:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Good luck, Tim! Sounds like you got a good shop project there. > (By the way, Dennis, did you notice the humorous typo on your song title on > the '75 Seconds' album as posted on ? 'CIRRUS > Over Indiana' has mutated into 'CITRUS'; more vitamin C, I guess!) Yes! I thought this was a hoot! Images of lemons flying throught the air.... Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 13:37:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01338; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:33:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:33:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1BC742.95E8F7D7@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:49:12 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: XLR volume pedal? References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> <3.0.5.32.20010601190537.007c8520@pop.ici.net> <011f01c0ed18$018fe760$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-RriRB.A.nU.gZ8G7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dennis Leas wrote: > Good luck, Tim! Sounds like you got a good shop project there. > > > (By the way, Dennis, did you notice the humorous typo on your song title > on > > the '75 Seconds' album as posted on ? 'CIRRUS > > Over Indiana' has mutated into 'CITRUS'; more vitamin C, I guess!) > > Yes! I thought this was a hoot! Images of lemons flying throught the > air.... > > Dennis Leas > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com god, how i love the smell of lemonade in the morning... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 15:34:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05477; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:30:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:30:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004401c0ed2d$3620bbc0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Slightly OT: Roland SRV-3030D Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:33:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0ECF2.88E00F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0ECF2.88E00F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all-=20 Been enjoying a T.C. M-One and was reading up on similar units- the = Roland SRV-3030D caught my attention- anyone here used one? It has an = interesting feature that can send your signal to one of 2 processors = based on amplitude, frequency, etc- so you could have high notes sent to = a hall verb and low notes to a tap delay- or do it based on volume of = notes played- not sure how much delay time there is or if it has a = sample/hold feature- also accepts smartmedia for storage of 1000 presets = in banks of 10- I would be interested in any info-=20 Cliff (shaking the change jar for Electrix purchase...) ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0ECF2.88E00F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all-
 
Been enjoying a T.C. M-One and was reading up on = similar=20 units- the Roland SRV-3030D caught my attention- anyone here used = one? It=20 has an interesting feature that can send your signal to one of 2 = processors=20 based on amplitude, frequency, etc- so you could have high notes sent to = a hall=20 verb and low notes to a tap delay- or do it based on volume of notes = played- not=20 sure how much delay time there is or if it has a sample/hold feature- = also=20 accepts smartmedia for storage of 1000 presets in banks of 10- I would = be=20 interested in any info-
 
Cliff
(shaking the change jar for Electrix=20 purchase...)
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0ECF2.88E00F40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 17:43:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10240; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:41:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:41:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.5] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:40:35 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2001 21:40:35.0448 (UTC) FILETIME=[FCFBA780:01C0ED3E] Resent-Message-ID: <3idOaD.A.pfC.yBAH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ha, ha....foolish human. Only I can do that ! I with the power of ACID 3.0 (yea, Matt, I am adding the kudus of ACID to this missive )! I think the person has MIDI tracks, so you plan to cut and scratch those ? Well with ACID 3.0, you can import MIDI files, and you can remix them with vocals, or your own beats, created in FruityLoops 3.1.1 or even use ReBirth 2.0, then create a .rbs file, and use ReMaker to convert them to MIDI files... well you get the picture.

Ah, yes ACID......... gotta love it.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 18:07:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11872; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:06:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:06:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:05:03 -0700 From: "Tim Sanz" To: Subject: Re: re: RC-20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id SAA11843 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A Freudian slip, perhaps Kim? >>> kflint@loopers-delight.com 06/04 2:27 AM >>> the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 or whatever other variations you guys are experimenting with... At 2:14 PM -0700 6/3/01, Bruce Satinover wrote: >From: tim@timhelmen.com >> But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same >>flexibilty. You set the end point of the loop and have >>it restart by hitting the left switch. >>This leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode >>on the LD4. To get into overdub mode you have to hit >>the same switch again. I imagine with practice one >>could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd >>never be able to get to a mode where you're >>overdubbing right from the re-start of the >>loop. > >This is correct, but it is very easy to overdub as you >are working, example; I make a loop, I press the left >footswitch and the RC-20 plays back my previous music. >I can tap the pedal as the loop is playing and overdub >as I see fit. fwiw, I think you missed Tim's point there. He wants to have the choice to be immediately overdubbing after he ends record. This technique is commonly used in textural loops, where you want some sustained sound to continue from the end of the loop into the beginning of the loop to make a seamless feel. Also if you were doing some sort of counterpoint thing, you might want to immediately overdub the second line as the loop starts repeating. So you continue to play as you end record enter overdub, and your playing is continuouly added to the loop. I think most loopers do this in some way, and certainly any cheap delay pedal does. It sounds like the RC-20 can't do this after the first loop record without introducing a gap in the overdub as you tap the button a second time to get into overdub. That may be a major problem or no problem at all, depending on what kind of looping you want to do. >Again, you need to move up in price to get the >features you are discussing. hmm, not really. I'm sure they could have done it on the rc-20 if they thought about it. It's just a question of how the user interface is programmed to work. >The Echoplex line has >some nice features but are difficult to find and not >always the most realtime friendly. I think echoplexes are pretty easy to find these days, since Gibson is producing a lot more of them now than they used to. The echoplex is pretty much entirely designed to be real-time friendly, so I'm not sure how you got that impression. In this case, it is probably a good example of what Tim is after. The echoplex always allows you to transition from one function immediately to another with one button press. You never have press a button to end one function then press another button to start the next, so it keeps the foot-tapping to a minimum. So if you are recording a loop, you simply end by pressing whatever function you want to go into. The echoplex stops the record for you, starts the loop repeating, and the new function you want is on, all with one button press. For example, if you end the record by pressing overdub, the loop starts repeating with overdub on. End record with reverse, and it is immediately reversing, etc. Similar with other functions, like going from mulitply right into insert or replace or whatever. To me, that is real-time friendly, because whatever you want to do you just hit it and you're there, with only one button tap. The machine takes care of all the steps in between for you. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 18:15:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12102; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:14:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:14:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AALev123@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:12:54 EDT Subject: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d1.788b9da.284d61e6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d1.788b9da.284d61e6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to list and have been reading the archives-- But anyone with the time or desire to respond would be appreciated....... I am buying a looping device for live use I am a guitar player. Any comments on whether the RC-20, Boomerang or echoplex are better or worse, easier to use, reverse capabilities ect.. is greatly appreciated. Thank , Also, what is the most recent version of each --part1_d1.788b9da.284d61e6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to list and have been reading the archives-- But anyone with the
time or desire  to respond would be appreciated....... I am buying a looping
device for live use I am a guitar player. Any comments on whether the RC-20,
Boomerang or echoplex are better or worse, easier to use, reverse
capabilities ect..  is greatly appreciated. Thank , Also, what is the most
recent version of each
--part1_d1.788b9da.284d61e6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 18:24:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12307; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:22:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:22:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1C08F2.C579A878@fullcompass.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 17:17:22 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I love my upgraded V 2.0 Boomerang alot. It is fairly inexpensive, easy to use, sounds good, and can be found pretty cheap used. I have never tried the Echoplex, and have yet to hear any real positive feedback on the RC20. AALev123@aol.com wrote: > > I am new to list and have been reading the archives-- But anyone with > the > time or desire to respond would be appreciated....... I am buying a > looping > device for live use I am a guitar player. Any comments on whether the > RC-20, > Boomerang or echoplex are better or worse, easier to use, reverse > capabilities ect.. is greatly appreciated. Thank , Also, what is the > most > recent version of each From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 18:59:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13184; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:56:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:56:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <48.1697dc63.284d6c02@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:56:02 EDT Subject: Re: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com AALev123@aol.com writes: >Any comments on whether the RC-20, >Boomerang or echoplex are better or worse, easier to use, reverse >capabilities ect.. is greatly appreciated. i haven't tried the rc-20, as it doesn't appear to have certain looping features that i need. otherwise, i would recommend one each of EDP -which is available, now (see andy's post)- and Repeater, when Electrix releases it. not at all thorough, but here are my thumbnail sketches: EDP plusses: realtime continuous reverse/comprehensive editing & re-triggering, multi-loop (contiguous), midi, proven product, wads of sample-time, sw-upgradeable, 1 rack space Repeater plusses: multitrack paradigm (2x stereo / 4 'tracks'), storage & archiving, pitch & time changing (per 'track', or loop), realtime continuous reverse, multi-loop (contiguous), wads of sample-time, midi, sw-upgradeable, many touchy-feely knobs/sliders/switches, 2 rack spaces i'm sure that the boomerang feels great to some bassistic/guitaristic folk, as it's all footpedally & such, as is the case w/line6 dl4. and lotsa folk swear by their jammen. and i still love my pcm42. etc, etc..... there oughta be *plenty* of material in the archives on this subject, nah? best, spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:01:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12973; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:51:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:51:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:50:38 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Re: dt sighting? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c1.f0c0454.284d6abe_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_c1.f0c0454.284d6abe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 11:48:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com writes: > i never thought i would be on the look-out for a madonna song.....what a mailing list!.....:).....thanks kim.....m --part1_c1.f0c0454.284d6abe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 11:48:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com
writes:


gotta check it out.....


i never thought i would be on the look-out for a madonna song.....what a
mailing list!.....:).....thanks kim.....m
--part1_c1.f0c0454.284d6abe_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:03:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14397; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:01:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:01:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:00:24 EDT Subject: Re: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 6:22:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jimsch@fullcompass.com writes: > me too!.....m --part1_16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 6:22:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jimsch@fullcompass.com writes:


I love my upgraded V 2.0 Boomerang alot.


me too!.....m
--part1_16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:06:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14608; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:03:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:03:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010604230320.94076.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Random Music Generator Software Questions To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <5PUwjC.A.3jD.6OBH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com pascal, you may want to try Koan Pro software by SSEYO. It has support of sound fonts no matter what kind of sound card you own. Brian Eno uses this program fequently. If you have some bucks to spend get a Korg Karma, it has a very sophisticated algorithmic engine built into the synth. Bruce Hi Everybody! I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music. I've been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko. I have two questions. 1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? 2) I want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow me to do this. I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but does anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run multiple sound programs with only one soundcard? Thanks a lot -pascal __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:17:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14837; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:10:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:10:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AaroneousAG@aol.com Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:08:19 EDT Subject: electrix blow everyone to bits To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <6f.164146a2.284d6ee3@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Folks, Thanks a million billion trillion for the heads up! I just wanted to let you know that if you are in New York City, the only place in the area that still has any Electrix stuff is the Guitar Center in Long Island City, Queens. Their number is 718-278-7777. But, you'd better hurry, cuz I reserved 2 of each!! (Friends don't let friends apply for credit cards) My tweaking fingers are twitching already, Aaroneous P.S. To Electrix: Thanks for the sunshine, guys 8-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:19:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15121; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:18:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:18:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106042317.QAA19539@swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 16:20:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <13k3LB.A.1rD.wcBH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I luv mi PCM42 too...endall-beall fo' mee!! loopinglee stanner ---------- >From: Hedewa7@aol.co, >otherwise, i would recommend one each of EDP -which is available, now (see >andy's post)- and Repeater, when Electrix releases it. > >not at all thorough, but here are my thumbnail sketches: > >EDP plusses: realtime continuous reverse/comprehensive editing & >Repeater plusses: multitrack paradigm (2x stereo / 4 'tracks'), storage & >i'm sure that the boomerang feels great to some bassistic/guitaristic folk, >and i still love my pcm42. >best, >spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:45:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15654; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:43:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:43:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010604234304.37809.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:43:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: re: RC-20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 or whatever other variations you guys are experimenting with... << How about, XP4, just joking . At 2:14 PM -0700 6/3/01, Bruce Satinover wrote: > >This is correct, but it is very easy to overdub as you >are working, example; I make a loop, I press the left >footswitch and the RC-20 plays back my previous music. >I can tap the pedal as the loop is playing and overdub >as I see fit. >> fwiw, I think you missed Tim's point there. He wants to have the choice to be immediately overdubbing after he ends record. This technique is commonly used in textural loops, where you want some sustained sound to continue from the end of the loop into the beginning of the loop to make a seamless feel. Also if you were doing some sort of counterpoint thing, you might want to immediately overdub the second line as the loop starts repeating. So you continue to play as you end record enter overdub, and your playing is continuouly added to the loop. I think most loopers do this in some way, and certainly any cheap delay pedal does. It sounds like the RC-20 can't do this after the first loop record without introducing a gap in the overdub as you tap the button a second time to get into overdub. That may be a major problem or no problem at all, depending on what kind of looping you want to do. << Kim, I did understand the initial question and was trying to give an alternative to the limitiations of the RC-20. As for the Echoplex, it is more complex although far more developed than most other loopers that get discussed. I have read the digest and understand there are plenty of units available which is kind of a drag as the Echoplex was the unit I initially wanted. I tried several catalog dealers, Guitar Center, Mars online, and several Chicago area dealers. None had stock and almost none knew where to order. I was getting quotes of 6 weeks for delivery and paying for the unit up front without trying it. I've heard what it can do and wanted one. Imagine how ironic it is that many units are sitting a few miles from me but stores do not know the device even exists! >Again, you need to move up in price to get the >features you are discussing. >> hmm, not really. I'm sure they could have done it on the rc-20 if they thought about it. It's just a question of how the user interface is programmed to work. >> Agreed. In my initial thoughts I was critical of the RC-20 because of design issues. The statement is valid, there aren't many loopers that do what was requested and none I know of that aren't considerably more money than the RC-20. >The Echoplex line has >some nice features but are difficult to find and not >always the most realtime friendly. >> I think echoplexes are pretty easy to find these days, since Gibson is producing a lot more of them now than they used to. The echoplex is pretty much entirely designed to be real-time friendly, so I'm not sure how you got that impression. In this case, it is probably a good example of what Tim is after. << I'm sure once you work with it the echoplex does the job well and with a reasonable learning curve. I'm really annoyed now that I spent money on the RC-20, and it's not that I don't like the unit, I do. But I would have purchased a echoplex had one been available anywhere I checked. And again, the 6 week quote I got simply wouldn't work for my schedule. This whole situations is somewhat frustrating. >> The echoplex always allows you to transition from one function immediately to another with one button press. You never have press a button to end one function then press another button to start the next, so it keeps the foot-tapping to a minimum. So if you are recording a loop, you simply end by pressing whatever function you want to go into. The echoplex stops the record for you, starts the loop repeating, and the new function you want is on, all with one button press. For example, if you end the record by pressing overdub, the loop starts repeating with overdub on. End record with reverse, and it is immediately reversing, etc. Similar with other functions, like going from mulitply right into insert or replace or whatever. To me, that is real-time friendly, because whatever you want to do you just hit it and you're there, with only one button tap. The machine takes care of all the steps in between for you. No argument. It's a powerful machine. If Tim can get one and it's within his budget it would b ethe way to go. But Tim didn't mention his budget, just he desire to use a looper, in this case the RC-20. So, I agree with you, the echoplex is a great machine, I don't have first hand experience, only viewing and listening to guitarists that have it. My response was based on having the RC-20 and what, if anything could be done. If it sounded like I was slighting any other looper I assure you I wasn't. One thing I have come to appreciate is how much can be done with creativity and whatever equipment you have available to you. Sure you have more options whne you have top quality equipment (whatever someone on the list might think) but in the end it is what we do with the equipment we have. I *thought* I was being helpful. That was my only intention. I don't have an agenda or anything like that. I like loopers, inexpensive or high priced and I like listening to what people do with whatever it is they use for equipment. Some of the most creative music I made was on terrible recording equpment and sound reinforcement. I think when you have to work hard to get a decent sound you become creative by need. In any case I hope this clears things up. Also, if anyone knows where I can buy a echoplex I'd appreciate knowing where. Maybe I will have time to get one before we lock in our gigging equipment. Bruce kim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:56:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16766; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:54:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:54:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010604195315.007c7cc0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:53:15 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: re: RC-20 In-Reply-To: <20010604234304.37809.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <92jPsB.A.tFE.2-BH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 04:43 PM 6/4/01 -0700, Kim wrote: >>> the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 >or whatever other >variations you guys are experimenting with... << In honor of Looper's Delight, I hereby propose that ALL manufacturers of hardware loopers re-name their products to start with 'LD'. LD1 = 'Plex LD2 = JamMan (retroactively) LD3 = 'Rang LD4 = DL4 etc... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:56:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16728; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:54:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:54:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003301c0ed50$f8b2ae00$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <20010604230320.94076.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Introductions Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:49:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <3CL2-.A.OFE._9BH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi folks I found your cool list from some Tamboura Site and decided to join. I have been composing loop based music for about ten years. I studied Digital Synthesis @ University of Florida for the last 4 years and have produced hundreds of pieces freelance including several full length's by others. I play amplified strings,sitar,tamboura and modified synthesizers (ARP's and Kats) as well as a collection of reg analog synths (Pro Ones and Prophets). I have been studying Csound for about 5 years as well as MAX/MSP..etc..and tons of new software for Rh7Linux. I would love to collaborate and trade some loops etc. Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 20:04:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18172; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:03:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:03:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010605000232.5760.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:02:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: wow: ALIAS Zone, Lucid Dreams To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <7Hl8z.A.ZbE.ZGCH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been lisetening to "Lucid Dreams" by ALIAS Zone after reading about it on this list. This is an incredible album, beautifully executed and designed. When I first found Loopers Delight I heard clips from the second CD comp designed by Loopers Deligh and was very impressed. Then I checked out a few artists that left urls. Maybe this is old news but this is a wonderful primal, ambient CD. The use of loops are quite interesting (to keep this on topic). Even the layout of the CD is excellent. Their url is: http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone in case you want to check them out. And no, I am not affilated in any way, just an impressed listener. Bruce S. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 20:09:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18326; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:07:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:07:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004601c0ed52$d931e1c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010604195315.007c7cc0@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:02:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i have a DL4 and it is a beauty i run the violin through a compressor a vol ped then into the "LD" :-) the into the twin cheers Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Nelson To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: re: RC-20 > At 04:43 PM 6/4/01 -0700, Kim wrote: > >>> the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 > >or whatever other > >variations you guys are experimenting with... << > > In honor of Looper's Delight, I hereby propose that ALL manufacturers of > hardware loopers re-name their products to start with 'LD'. > > LD1 = 'Plex > LD2 = JamMan (retroactively) > LD3 = 'Rang > LD4 = DL4 > > etc... > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:16:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20965; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:14:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:14:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.79] From: "Peter Wilson" To: Subject: Electrix going out of business? Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:12:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 6.10.0016.1605 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0003_01C0ED21.FC44B9C0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 01:13:19.0388 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4E255C0:01C0ED5C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C0ED21.FC44B9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rac= k effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? --- Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost f= or this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. 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------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C0ED21.FC44B9C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:24:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21421; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:22:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:22:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010604181829.00a48cd0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:21:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <31foB.A.gOF._QDH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Peter Wilson (06:12 PM 06/04/01) wrote: >I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack >effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? > >--- >Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost >for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. > >Special Comment: >Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us >in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy >--- No, this is not true. My guess is that either Zzounds are being spoiled-sports or they're just not informed. It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. Electrix is discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. Repeaters are built, packed in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still looking at shipping very soon. It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're seeing happen with Electrix. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:34:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21639; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:33:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:33:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: Echoplex for sale Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:33:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010604181829.00a48cd0@mulder.intermag.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was gonna offer mine for a grand but here's one for less: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1436312706 BTW this is Gary Lehmann--sorry about the identity confusion :} Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:53:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21995; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: <49.c215909.284d953a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:51:54 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_49.c215909.284d953a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_49.c215909.284d953a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 9:22:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mark@redmoon-music.com writes: > It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their > resources on where they think the market is. But is there a great market for looping devices? It strikes me that if a company consolidated their resources (i.e. eliminated their other product offerings) to focus on looping devices (i.e. Repeater), it would be a serious error in judgement. Certainly there are enough folks to drive the existing looper market and keep the eBay sellers of Jammen, et al flush, but to bank one's whole company on loopers?! Doesn't make sense to me. By the same token, maybe the market Electrix was targeting with the other devices (assumedly DJ's to some extent) isn't all that great. Maybe they can pick up the Alesis Masterlink market! Regards, Pavel --part1_49.c215909.284d953a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 9:22:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mark@redmoon-music.com writes:


It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their
resources on where they think the market is.



But is there a great market for looping devices? It strikes me that if a
company consolidated their resources (i.e. eliminated their other product
offerings) to focus on looping devices (i.e. Repeater), it would be a serious
error in judgement. Certainly there are enough folks to drive the existing
looper market and keep the eBay sellers of Jammen, et al flush, but to bank
one's whole company on loopers?! Doesn't make sense to me. By the same token,
maybe the market Electrix was targeting with the other devices (assumedly
DJ's to some extent) isn't all that great. Maybe they can pick up the Alesis
Masterlink market!

Regards, Pavel



--part1_49.c215909.284d953a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:53:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21994; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:51:30 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Re: dt sighting? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so here's mine; I am convinced the sound bite I hear everytime my wife boots her laptop (running WIN98) is from the intro of something off "doorX"... maybe *mr wonderful*... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:18:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23810; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:16:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:16:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Incensepeppamint@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:15:36 EDT Subject: How much should this cost? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e1.15a0dcdd.284d9ac8_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e1.15a0dcdd.284d9ac8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How much should this run me new, I haven't found a price anywhere except in the JamMan Echoplex comparison.Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and EFC-7 Foot Controller with the loop III ver 5.0 chip uprgrade and 16 mb of ram? -Erik --part1_e1.15a0dcdd.284d9ac8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How much should this run me new, I haven't found a price anywhere except in
the

JamMan Echoplex comparison.Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and EFC-7 Foot

Controller with the loop III ver 5.0 chip uprgrade and 16 mb of ram?

-Erik





--part1_e1.15a0dcdd.284d9ac8_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:36:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24164; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:35:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:35:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1C46B2.FB074C50@virtulink.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:40:50 -0400 From: David Beardsley Organization: SSI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-20 References: <3.0.5.32.20010604195315.007c7cc0@pop.ici.net> <004601c0ed52$d931e1c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com shreeswifty wrote: > > i have a DL4 and it is a beauty > i run the violin through a compressor a vol ped then into the "LD" :-) > the into the twin > cheers And who hipped yo to that scat daddy-oh? -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:42:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24374; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:40:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:40:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:42:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmmm- If these products were selling well at all, I can't see why Electrix would delete the revenue stream, especially now that Repeater is getting ready to ship after a long painful and probably expensive delay. My guess would be manufacture of all the Repeater boxes and the attendant delay in Repeater's shipping (and thus bringing in $) may have temporarily put the company in a bind. The sell-off would raise extra cash quickly, though not as much as if they'd left them at their previous prices. Still, probably worth doing if you need the cash now, and perhaps Electrix has plans for replacement products. I certainly hope so, I am in awe of Electrix user interface and no preset concept. I was less in awe of the inflexible parrallel effx routing of MoFx, and the filter box that went into "painful speaker destroying 10 times louder than the previous signal" oscillation at a resonance setting of about 50%. Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- Mark >Peter Wilson (06:12 PM 06/04/01) wrote: > >>I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack >>effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? >> >>--- >>Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost >>for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. >> >>Special Comment: >>Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us >>in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy >>--- > >No, this is not true. My guess is that either Zzounds are being >spoiled-sports or they're just not informed. > > >It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's >Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. > >Electrix is discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to >focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. Repeaters are built, packed >in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still >looking at shipping very soon. > >It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their >resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're >seeing happen with Electrix. > > >Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24534; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:46:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:46:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:48:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: so when do we get the EDP news? Resent-Message-ID: <72bbjD.A.L_F.JgEH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Kim and Matthias- While going thru some old mail I found this, saved undoubtedly as it produced pleasurable drooling and lusting on my part, can you add any more pleasant hints or intriguing "g word" comments? Still enjoying my trusty Oberheim Echoplex... Best- Mark >At 2:50 AM -0700 7/9/99, John Tidwell wrote: >>--- Kim Flint wrote: >> >>> yes, I must say, tapping instantaneously in and out >>> of half speed while >>> overdub is on over a reversed, granularly-multiplied >>> loop is way >>> fun.....y'all should try it some time.... >> >>Oh you tease! >> >>Kim, if you're serious, are you talking about an >>upgrade that will double the delay time at a lower >>rate or halve the time at a higher rate? I'm >>borrowing jargon here so excuse me if it's a stupid >>question! > >It sure looks like I'm talking about that, doesn't it? hmmmmmm..... > >However, I'm really intrigued by that use of the g word. > >kim > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:49:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24578; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:48:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:48:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0ed69$52b95300$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010604195315.007c7cc0@pop.ici.net> <004601c0ed52$d931e1c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> <3B1C46B2.FB074C50@virtulink.com> Subject: Re: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:43:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com some shredlord... lives in Jersey... except he uses a lap steel so yr mind breaks from the drone. Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: David Beardsley To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:40 PM Subject: Re: RC-20 > > > shreeswifty wrote: > > > > i have a DL4 and it is a beauty > > i run the violin through a compressor a vol ped then into the "LD" :-) > > the into the twin > > cheers > > And who hipped yo to that scat daddy-oh? > > > > -- > * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y > * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" > * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm > * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 23:21:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26185; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:20:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:20:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.117.165] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again-HuH? Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:19:25 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 03:19:26.0077 (UTC) FILETIME=[52FB72D0:01C0ED6E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh my. Dj Ice sounds so.... did you edit his comments, they seem broken and unintelligible ? I gave him some pointers, and now they seem to be lost in the sauce.If he wants to remix those MIDI tunes, he has to at least act as if he knows what MIDI is, and how to manipulate that format. I am a Dj, and I have worked with several different file types, and the applications to process them. It "aint like scratching on two turntables, and a cuttin' tha breaks..." MIDI files are a whole different puppy. Programs like SONAR, ACID 3.0, and Midi Studio are good, but if you have to ask what these things are, and where to get them, then half the battle is lost there... you have heard of a learning curve, right ? Just asking for the MIDI files, in such a "street" attitude, does not come across professional, nor does it make him seem competent enough to handle this person's music, and they are VERY serious about the request. Eer, hehe, so you've never even worked with ReBirth? --- In Samplestation@y..., DJICE57@A... wrote: > a this is dj ice from RAW ENTERTAIANMENT ? SEND ME THE PROGRAM THAT THA SONGS > ON AND I CAN MAKE THEM HOT AZZ HELL > CALL ME AT 334-290-2984 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 23:22:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26211; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:20:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:20:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:19:31 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c6.168789fd.284da9c3_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_c6.168789fd.284da9c3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 10:40:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, landman@wco.com writes: > Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I > certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > Absolutely. I had my order in at Alto Music for a LONG time. Regards, Pavel --part1_c6.168789fd.284da9c3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 10:40:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, landman@wco.com
writes:


Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I
certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best-


Absolutely. I had my order in at Alto Music for a LONG time.

Regards, Pavel
--part1_c6.168789fd.284da9c3_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 00:30:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28330; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:29:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:29:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:28:42 -0700 Subject: Reverb? I'll show you reverb: From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id AAA28292 Resent-Message-ID: <5MydEC.A.d6G.HAGH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I don't recall this being discussed previously, but this is now #1 on my list of places to play a ambient show at: http://www.silophone.net "Located in Montréal's old port, Silo #5B-1 was built in 1958 and has been cited by Le Corbusier as a masterpiece of modern architecture. The elevator was used to store grain which came to Montréal by rail and departed by sea. Due to changes in the global grain market the elevator became obsolete and was closed in 1996. Since then it has remained empty and, for reasons of security, closed to the public. The structure, constructed entirely of reinforced concrete, is 200 metres long, 16 metres wide and approximately 45 metres at its highest point. The main section of the building is formed of approximately 115 vertical chambers, all 30 metres high and up to 8 metres in diameter. These tall parallel cylinders, whose form evokes the structure of an enormous organ, have exceptional acoustic properties: a stunning reverberation time of over 20 seconds. Anything played inside the Silo is euphonized, made beautiful, by the acoustics of the structure. All those who have entered have found it an overwhelming and unforgettable experience." TH -- NEW official Electrochakra website: http://www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 01:21:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA29995; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:18:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:18:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:12:21 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: wow: ALIAS Zone, Lucid Dreams In-reply-to: <20010605000232.5760.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220404086==_ma============" References: <20010605000232.5760.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220404086==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 5:02 PM -0700 6/4/01, Bruce Satinover wrote: >I've been lisetening to "Lucid Dreams" by ALIAS Zone >after reading about it on this list. This is an >incredible album, beautifully executed and designed. I'm glad you like it. Chris Meyer was the principal architect of this CD project. He's not on this list, but I've forwarded your message to him. He's been putting a lot of effort into the project and good reviews give him strength to carry on! Alias Zone is based on live performance recordings of the band Cosmic Debris (presently on hiatus). We made a practice of taping all our gigs on DA-88. Chris culled the Alias Zone basic tracks from this archive and added overdubs and additional processing. The Cosmic Debris lineup for any given gig consisted of any two or more of: Richard Bugg: flute and synthesizer Chris Meyer: Loops, ambiences, sound bytes, and percussion Blake Arnold: Characters, stories, and tales Lucky Westfall: Bass Richard Zvonar: Eventide Harmonizers There are three Debris CDs available on mp3.com, with free downloads of mp3 files. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1220404086==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: wow: ALIAS Zone, Lucid Dreams
At 5:02 PM -0700 6/4/01, Bruce Satinover wrote:
I've been lisetening to "Lucid Dreams" by ALIAS Zone
after reading about it on this list. This is an
incredible album, beautifully executed and designed.

I'm glad you like it. Chris Meyer was the principal architect of this CD project. He's not on this list, but I've forwarded your message to him. He's been putting a lot of effort into the project and good reviews give him strength to carry on!

Alias Zone is based on live performance recordings of the band Cosmic Debris (presently on hiatus). We made a practice of taping all our gigs on DA-88. Chris culled the Alias Zone basic tracks from this archive and added overdubs and additional processing.

The Cosmic Debris lineup for any given gig consisted of any two or more of:
Richard Bugg: flute and synthesizer
Chris Meyer: Loops, ambiences, sound bytes, and percussion
Blake Arnold: Characters, stories, and tales
Lucky Westfall: Bass
Richard Zvonar: Eventide Harmonizers

There are three Debris CDs available on mp3.com, with free downloads of mp3 files. <http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/85/cosmic_debris.html>
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http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz
--============_-1220404086==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 01:32:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30218; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:29:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:29:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:20:52 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? In-reply-to: <49.c215909.284d953a@aol.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220403489==_ma============" References: <49.c215909.284d953a@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220403489==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 9:51 PM -0400 6/4/01, PaulPokr@aol.com wrote: >It strikes me that if a >company consolidated their resources (i.e. eliminated their other product >offerings) to focus on looping devices (i.e. Repeater), it would be a serious >error in judgement. Electrix is a division of IVL Technologies and IVL has a history of developing technologies for other companies, such as Digitech and tc electronic. Though I have no inside knowledge about their business practices, my assumption is that these other accounts provide some stability while they do their "creative thing" with the Electrix products. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1220403489==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Electrix going out of business?
At 9:51 PM -0400 6/4/01, PaulPokr@aol.com wrote:
It strikes me that if a
company consolidated their resources (i.e. eliminated their other product
offerings) to focus on looping devices (i.e. Repeater), it would be a serious
error in judgement.

Electrix is a division of IVL Technologies <http://www.ivl.com/> and IVL has a history of developing technologies for other companies, such as Digitech and tc electronic.  Though I have no inside knowledge about their business practices, my assumption is that these other accounts provide some stability while they do their "creative thing" with the Electrix products.
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Richard Zvonar, PhD      
(818) 788-2202                                 
http://www.zvonar.com
http://RZCybernetics.com
http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz
--============_-1220403489==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 01:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30441; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:39:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:39:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010604223333.021093b0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:34:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PaulPokr@aol.com (08:19 PM 06.04.2001) wrote: >In a message dated 6/4/01 10:40:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, landman@wco.com >writes: > >>Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I >>certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > >Absolutely. I had my order in at Alto Music for a LONG time. Since July 2000 for me. I ordered one right after I saw it at Summer NAMM last year. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 01:51:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30629; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:47:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:47:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.3] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: [Samplestation] Dj Hypergirl ? Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 05:47:06 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 05:47:06.0607 (UTC) FILETIME=[F44507F0:01C0ED82] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, Shanna this is Dj Devious D, and I have some demo's I could send you, if you like. I see you are from St. Louis. I used to spin with Captain Gee, and Ted Thornton down there, back in the mid 80's. I even was a mix contributor for Z100 (Dr Jockenstein), back in the day. I used to spin at Club Celebration, The Wiz, and a short stint at the Oz, and the Broadway. Captain Gee, was my mentor. I contributed also (idea-wise), to MetroMix, (a remix service Captain Gee, Tiger Jones and Ted Thorntorn remixed for). I have an extensive Homestudio, with all the trappings. If you want I can send you one of my production pieces, via email, as an MP3 file. My brother-in-law is doing music down there, he used to go by the name Kidd Rock, his last name is Kinnell. Dj Devious D Visionary Mixologist And Soun Design Chicago, IL. 60621 Phone: 773-783-7812 Email : ldarthard@Ameritech.net ----Original Message Follows---- From: "DJ Hypergirl" Reply-To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com To: Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:59:32 -0700 Hey ICE, you have a demo of your own? I'm interested. Shanna Hendrixson Production Director and C.E.O. SPYS IN THE NITE PRODUCTIONS 10536 Wisteria St. Louis, MO 63126 314-843-5321 314-538-8460 ----- Original Message ----- From: DJICE57@AOL.COM To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again a this is dj ice from RAW ENTERTAIANMENT ? SEND ME THE PROGRAM THAT THA SONGS ON AND I CAN MAKE THEM HOT AZZ HELL CALL ME AT 334-290-2984 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Community email addresses: Post message: Samplestation@onelist.com Subscribe: Samplestation-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: Samplestation-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: Samplestation-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/Samplestation Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 02:36:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA32694; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:33:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:33:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:32:18 -0700 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: FWD: Berkeley concert: Shafqat / Wessel / Matt / Ali this Wednesady Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com some of you bay area folks may be interested in this. I saw Dave and Matt play with Shafqat once before, and it was very good. Certainly a lot of the music technology involved would be interesting to folks on this list. kim >Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:44:49 -0700 (PDT) >From: Matt Wright >To: matt@cnmat.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU >Subject: Shafqat / Wessel / Matt / Ali this Wednesady > >Hello, friends. I'm very excited to be performing once again with the >incredible 11th generation Khyal vocalist Shafqat Ali Khan. My good friends >David Wessel and Ali Momeni will join me in accompanying Shafqat with various >computer instruments. At the bottom of this message are the program notes we >wrote for the performance, explaining our instruments and artistic goals. > >But first, the important stuff: > >Wednesday, June 6th, 8pm. Doors open at 7:30. >Hertz Hall, UC Berkeley, near the corner of College and Bancroft >$15 >Part of CNMAT's TEMPO Festival of Contemporary Performance, >http://www.tempofestival.org > > >I hope to see you there! > >-Matt > > >********************* Program Notes ********************* > > >What are we trying to do? > >Musical meetings that combine very distant cultural influences very >often end up as aesthetic disasters. Our particular ingredients >tonight consist of a voice strongly grounded in the highly developed >Khyal vocal tradition of Pakistan and North India, and a collection >of computer music practices that has little, if any, grounding in a >strong musical tradition. > >Although Wessel, Wright and Momeni have all studied this music to >some extent, we cannot pretend to be well situated in this profoundly >deep music culture. Our strategy then is to adapt the computer's >role in the direction of the more highly developed Khyal tradition >but not completely. We strove to create a common meeting ground, a >situation that would provoke a musical exchange. Improvisation is >central to the Khyal tradition and to each performer's musical >background; it will be the basis for tonight's performance. We did >not use another genre with which we have familiarity, such as jazz, >rock, or 20th century western art music, but rather we concentrated >on building musical material from scratch, starting with the >essentials - rhythmic structure, pitch organization, timbral control, >and an enveloping diffusion of the resulting sound. We focused on the >most salient features; the drone, the pitch collections related to >the particular rag, and rhythmic structures compatible with the >Hindustani tal. > >What are the Instruments? > >Shafqat Ali Khan will be singing. > >Each of the other three musicians will be playing a computer-based >musical instrument that he designed and implemented specifically for >this performance. All three instruments consist of a "gestural >interface," a physical device that somehow measures the way it is >touched and transmits these measurements to a computer. The computer >interprets these gestures according to pre-programmed rules, and >controls different kinds of sound synthesis and processing. All of >our computers are networked and share a common time pulse and other >information. Each computer musician's sound will be played primarily >through the loudspeaker closest to him on stage in the hopes of >providing a sort of embodied physicality and so you the listener will >be able to associate the sounds you hear with the people who are >playing them. > >David Wessel's gestural interface is a Buchla Thunder. The Thunder >has many pressure- and position-sensitive strips played with the >fingers. It is polyphonic in the sense that the parameters of >multiple strips are sensed at once. Wessel's instrument is based on >the idea of "dipping": a probabilistic generative process for rhythm >and melody is associated with each strip on the Thunder's surface, >where zero pressure causes silence and increasing pressure adds >volume and density to the musical result. Orchestration, the >selection of which processes are sounding at a given time, is >controlled by which strips are touched. > >Matthew Wright's gestural interface is a Wacom tablet and stylus. >The tablet senses the absolute two-dimensional position of the stylus >with a resolution greater than 0.001 inch, as well as the pressure >and two-dimensional tilt of the pen with respect to the tablet >surface. Different regions of the tablet correspond to different >kinds of musical behaviors, including control of the drone and the >construction and scheduling of rhythmic patterns. The most >expressive feature of the interface is "scrubbing," real-time control >of additive resynthesis of musical phrases sung by Shafqat. > >Ali Momeni's gestural interface is a pair of joysticks, each sensing >two-dimensional tilt, rotation, and a number of buttons and switches. >Momeni's software maps these dimensions to various synthesis >algorithms modally thus allowing him to control many different types >of processes using the same two joysticks. Unlike the other two >performers, Momeni begins each piece with very little prepared sound >material. All in real-time, this instrument allows him to listen to >and analyze Shafqat's voice, record samples and to replay those >samples using granular synthesis. Momeni also uses a second >microphone to record percussive sounds produced by a collection of >small objects he has at hand. > ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 03:34:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA01814; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:31:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:31:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, rumori@detritus.net Subject: I'll be performing on June 13th Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 00:30:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 07:30:04.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[5652C640:01C0ED91] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey everybody, I'll be doing a live performance at Kimo's nightclub in San Francisco. My set will be roughly from 9 to 10, and will consist of simultaneous turntable, CD player, and cassette improvisations - pretty loopy in nature. The other acts have been described to me as "free jazz" and an "electro-noise fest". Here's the announcement from bayimproviser.com: Matt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, Jun 13 2001 8:00 PM Carnival Ad Nauseam @ Kimo's Nightclub 1351 Polk St. @ Pine San Francisco CA 10pm Plum 9pm Matt Davignon 8pm Lambskin 13 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 04:02:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03372; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 04:00:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 04:00:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005b01c0ed95$7eda0020$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: I'll be performing on June 13th Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:59:44 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Good luck Matt! I have been walking by the occasional poster in London - while continuing to look for work - and see a number of things advertising "Live Jazz". I feel like I should find out just WHAT they think of as "Jazz" here -- is it "free form improvisation"? or more a situation for guitarists like "non-Les Paul clones need not apply".? Possibly this might have more timeliness than it has before, as they're about to run that bloody "Louis Armstrong as the only 'real' Jazz" series here, and before long Marsalis' attitudes could very well be incorrectly taken as gospel. Hm, interesting counterpoint. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 05:36:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05274; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:34:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:34:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.3] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:32:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 09:32:49.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C8A09C0:01C0EDA2] Resent-Message-ID: <_bQi2B.A.SSB.odKH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think this was directed toward's me ? Ok, maybe I sounded harsh in my "schooling" of Dj Ice, and I apologize for that. It was not meant for criticism (well not destructive that is),I just was commenting on his method of requesting the MIDI files that he wanted to work on, not his ability in actually manipulating the files. I have no idea what this man's skill level is, but neither will the artist who wanted their MIDI tracks remixed. How will they know, or why would the trust their work with someone who sounded as if he didn't know a MIDI file, from a Mini Skirt, but again I sound too harsh. Dj Ice might just be the next Cameron Paul, all I know, but I was not impressed with his sales pitch.... ----Original Message Follows---- From: stuart ricks Reply-To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:34:28 +0100 (BST) Some comments arent really all that fair, lets be honest at the end of the day music is music, wether its made from midi, wav or mp3 files. It also shouldnt matter how competant you are, music is not a serious attitude, its supose to be fun and an enjoyment. I admit I dont know a great deal about midi files or how they work, but the whole point is that with each step you learn, and hopefully with this group we help and teatch each other about different mediums and forms of working. Dont diss someone just because they dont know, help them to understand there problem, or give honest critisism. DJKameleon ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 06:12:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA06737; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:08:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:08:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1CAFA4.18AE2CE@cloud9.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:08:37 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? References: <200106050551.BAA30693@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I picked up 3 of the units at the blowout price from Sam Ash last night. I'm getting the other two from 8th street. It's not just a GC/MF deal, so not clear why zzounds missed the boat. BTW, I got a note from MF yesterday that the filter factory had shipped. Apparently the woman I talked to there over the weekend was misinformed; sorry about the confusion. I talked to the gear guy at sam ash about the electrix line. He comment was that the electrix boxes were very poor sellers. I'm guessing that figured heavily into the decision to "cut loose" on these products. Elby From: Mark Pulver It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 10:18:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15532; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:16:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:16:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:14:40 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com mark said: >It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their >resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're >seeing happen with Electrix. exactly what my sources say. best, spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 10:26:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15785; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:24:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:24:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:23:01 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com mtman@cloud9.net writes: >I talked to the gear guy at sam ash about the electrix line. He comment >was that the electrix boxes were very poor sellers. somehow, i hafta doubt the 'gear guy at sam ash's' veracity as an authoritative opinion. don't you? blrp, spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 11:34:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18355; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:30:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:30:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AALev123@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:29:18 EDT Subject: Clean rhythmn and dirty solos -set up question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf.f0f8339.284e54ce_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_bf.f0f8339.284e54ce_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x loop of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean rhythm but when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to a dirty sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as to record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound. Thanks. --part1_bf.f0f8339.284e54ce_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x loop
of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean rhythm but
when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to a dirty
sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as to
record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound.
Thanks.  
--part1_bf.f0f8339.284e54ce_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 11:36:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18367; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:31:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:31:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:22:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Seems like Mr. Pulver and Mr. Torn have some inside scoops on this whole Electrix thingee...and it sounds as if they are going to consolidate and move forward. however, Damon and Jamie from Electrix have been really good about posting answers to pertinent questions regarding their product, EXCEPT there was eerie silence when there was some 'issue' involved (ie: Repeater missing ship dates). seems like we haven't heard from them during this whole 'blowout' deal. perhaps a friendly "hey, we're here and we're fine" would settle everyone's nerves down a bit? it's one thing to get a great deal on straighforward analogue fx boxes, but i wouldn't want to buy an untested Repeater if the company/support/sw updates are going to be nonexistent. rich >Hmmmmm- If these products were selling well at all, I can't see why >Electrix would delete the revenue stream, especially now that Repeater is >getting ready to ship after a long painful and probably expensive delay. > >My guess would be manufacture of all the Repeater boxes and the attendant >delay in Repeater's shipping (and thus bringing in $) may have temporarily >put the company in a bind. > >The sell-off would raise extra cash quickly, though not as much as if >they'd left them at their previous prices. Still, probably worth doing if >you need the cash now, and perhaps Electrix has plans for replacement >products. I certainly hope so, I am in awe of Electrix user interface and >no preset concept. I was less in awe of the inflexible parrallel effx >routing of MoFx, and the filter box that went into "painful speaker >destroying 10 times louder than the previous signal" oscillation at a >resonance setting of about 50%. > >Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I >certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > >Mark> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 11:43:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18490; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:35:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:35:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: tri.tran@baesystems.com Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:34:57 -0500 Subject: RE: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD5.138E3E40" Resent-Message-ID: <0hG6iB.A.ugE.owPH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD5.138E3E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I tried MARS too and they did not match the $99 price. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Wilson [mailto:pwilson10@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:13 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Electrix going out of business? I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? --- Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. Special Comment: Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy --- _____ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD5.138E3E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I tried MARS too and they did not match the $99 price.
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From: Peter Wilson [mailto:pwilson10@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:13 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Electrix going out of business?

I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm?
 
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Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again.

Special Comment:
Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us in their inventory liqiudation.  Thanks the Spy

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD5.138E3E40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 11:59:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19000; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:55:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:55:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010605085142.020b3ef0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:51:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich (08:22 AM 06.05.2001) wrote: >however, Damon and Jamie from Electrix have been really good about >posting answers to pertinent questions regarding their product, EXCEPT >there was eerie silence when there was some 'issue' involved (ie: >Repeater missing ship dates). But, what Jamie and Damon did end up posting was that they didn't want to again predict a ship date and miss it. It took them a while to post, but I think that came from the business aspect of deciding new policy. >seems like we haven't heard from them during this whole 'blowout' deal. One of the things that I've tried to be clear about in at least some of my posts is that I'm getting information from my contacts within Electrix. It's not always prudent for a company to come out directly and comment on business practices. >perhaps a friendly "hey, we're here and we're fine" would settle >everyone's nerves down a bit? it's one thing to get a great deal on >straighforward analogue fx boxes, but i wouldn't want to buy an untested >Repeater if the company/support/sw updates are going to be nonexistent. I posted their words to this effect on Saturday (in the "Re: Electrix? Repeater?" thread) but I see your point in hearing it straight from them. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:12:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24791; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:08:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:08:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Message-ID: <78.15d6900c.284e7999@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:06:17 EDT Subject: AKASH - GIG ALERT - PRESS RELEASE CC: Leslieaq@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com LISTEN UP ! ALL U "KINKY","SPACE","FREAKS" OUT THERE, FOR ONE SHOW ONLY! "ALL PIMPIN', ALL HUSTLIN', ALL RAPPIN', ALL RHYMIN'" (OK so we are just kidding about 'pimpin' but we are always "workin" it ) AKASH, LIVE @ THE SHUBIN THEATRE! www.akashmusic.com NOTE: The Shubin Theatre is located on Bainbridge Street just off of South Street, Between 4th and 5th Streets but closer to 4th. SUNDAY, JUNE 10th, Doors Open @ 7PM, DIG IT - AKASH STARTS @ 8PM SHARP! ADMISSION for AKASH is $5 bucks (cheap!) *AFTER PARTY @ FLUID WITH PSYDDE DELICIOUS' FAST CHEAP AND OUT OF CONTROL * GET $1.00 off $3.00 admission to FAST CHEAP *Offer valid if only if you arrive at FLUID before 11pm with an Invite from AKASH in hand. *Also, the 1st. Ten People to show up @ The Shubin Theatre, will get a FREE copy of AKASH's DEBUT ALBUM "BODY WORSHIP" WE HOPE TO SEE ALL OF Y'ALL THERE :) SPECIAL SHOUT OUTS TO "LISA STEINER" @ OBZINE THANK YOU LISA FOR YOUR SUPPORT "REMEMBER TO ALWAYS KILL YOUR EXPECTATIONS" WWW.AKASHMUSIC.COM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:21:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25283; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:17:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:17:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:15:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Cc: Subject: Re: AKASH - GIG ALERT - PRESS RELEASE In-Reply-To: <78.15d6900c.284e7999@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Can we get a city, state, parish, or province for the Shubin Theatre please? Longitude and latitude would help, even :). thanks, Steve On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 AKASHMUSIC@aol.com wrote: > LISTEN UP ! > ALL U "KINKY","SPACE","FREAKS" OUT THERE, > FOR ONE SHOW ONLY! > > "ALL PIMPIN', ALL HUSTLIN', ALL RAPPIN', ALL RHYMIN'" > > (OK so we are just kidding about 'pimpin' but we are always "workin" > it ) > > AKASH, LIVE @ THE SHUBIN THEATRE! > www.akashmusic.com > > > NOTE: The Shubin Theatre is located > on Bainbridge Street just off of South Street, Between 4th and 5th > Streets > but closer to 4th. > > SUNDAY, JUNE 10th, Doors Open @ 7PM, > DIG IT - AKASH STARTS @ 8PM SHARP! > ADMISSION for AKASH is $5 bucks (cheap!) > *AFTER PARTY @ FLUID WITH PSYDDE DELICIOUS' > FAST CHEAP AND OUT OF CONTROL > * GET $1.00 off $3.00 admission to > FAST CHEAP > *Offer valid if only if you arrive at FLUID before > 11pm with an Invite from AKASH in hand. > > *Also, the 1st. Ten People to show up @ The Shubin Theatre, > will get a FREE copy of AKASH's DEBUT ALBUM > "BODY WORSHIP" > > WE HOPE TO SEE ALL OF Y'ALL THERE :) > > SPECIAL SHOUT OUTS TO "LISA STEINER" @ OBZINE > THANK YOU LISA FOR YOUR SUPPORT > > "REMEMBER TO ALWAYS KILL YOUR EXPECTATIONS" > WWW.AKASHMUSIC.COM > > > > > > > -- onNow: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:32:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25698; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:27:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:27:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:27:04 EDT Subject: Re: AKASH - GIG ALERT - PRESS RELEASE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Opps...I kinda forgot about that certain "key" info as it is pretty relevant stuff and crucial for people who do wanna show up if they are local & or near the area. I'm not the worlds best marketeer by any strech oif the imagination as my forgetfulness gets the best of me everytime. But please do forgive me...ahemmmm...The Shubin Theatre is located in Center City Philadelphia PA - near The "Bohemian" Shopping Area known as "South Street". But we would love to see all of you who can make it present :) Warm Regards John Price/AKASH "Remember To Always Kill Your Expectations" www.akashmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:40:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26145; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:37:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:37:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, mrcaine@hotmail.com, NLRP1@hotmail.com, NLRP1@aol.com, vbell@interaccess.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Re: Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:35:52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 18:35:52.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[5997BDD0:01C0EDEE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bravo ! My man ! I read your reply, and it brought a tear to my eye ! Now, I must NOT be getting all the threads to this debacle, because, some of the intermediate replies have gone past me. I still have not seen a reply from Dj Ice, and I never saw the note from kNode. So, I can not completely and honestly say anything else in this regards. I just want to stress, that this whole thread is NOT about dissin' anyone, or belittling anyone's Musical, Dj, or Production Skills. We are all in this for different reasons, but the common denominator is that "WE ALL LOVE MUSIC", and that's the glue that binds. Now Dj Ice's "public relation's" skills might be rough now, but maybe his producer skills are off the hook.... this is the time for him to also sharpen those skills, and learn how to "ask", for the right to use someone's tracks, for remixing. Just stating that he can "make them hot azz hell..." or whatever he said, will not impress anyone enough to say, "hummm, this guy sounds competent enough to handle my creation...". Now all said and done... can we all get along ? Man, this is the hottest thread that has been floating around here, since... well you all get the picture. Peace, and Hair Grease ! Alright, to start off in regards to kNode it looks like you're just trying to start an arguement here and there is no need over something as stupid as the sake of arguing. Now for Devious D_MasterMixer, he is absolutely correct. DJ Icewhatever does need some schooling in regards to public relations. I was completely not impressed with his street thug attitude, not with his seemingly lack of knowledge in regards to the track types I'm looking for a producer to help me with. It would have been different if he had some music samples to back up his claims or if he presented some know-how of the previously mentioned program. It's never in good taste to request the program either as with what Devious D_MasterMixer there is a learning curve with just about every program and when looking for a producer for your music you're not looking for someone who knows less about the software (or hardware in some peoples case) than you do. I didn't find Devious D_MasterMixer's comments to be offensive in the least, and I'll even go as far to say he is probably doing DJ Icewhatever a favor in schooling him. And I apologize if this too came off as harsh, as we call know it's almost impossible to express one's emotion over the net. 8P Cheers, - Clayton --- In Samplestation@y..., stuart ricks wrote: > Some comments aren't really all that fair, lets be > honest at the end of the day music is music, whether > its made from midi, wav or mp3 files. It also shouldn't > matter how competent you are, music is not a serious > attitude, its suppose to be fun and an enjoyment. > > I admit I don't know a great deal about midi files or > how they work, but the whole point is that with each > step you learn, and hopefully with this group we help > and teach each other about different mediums and > forms of working. > > Don't diss someone just because they don't know, help > them to understand there problem, or give honest > criticism. DJKameleon > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:48:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26618; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:44:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:44:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:43:01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 18:43:01.0886 (UTC) FILETIME=[5960D9E0:01C0EDEF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ok, now I have HEARD it all ! Dj Ice ! Man get with the program ! Do you WANT the job ? You are KILLING me with this street-talk ! You have to learn how to converse with potential clients. Now do you REALLY think Shanna H., regards you as being serious ? I know I don't. How old are you anyway, Ice ? Dj Ice Wrote - To my chagrin : hey shanna, how you doinig ?what kind a demo you want a demo of my sample beats or a mix tape demo of me spining records. ms.hendriixson i'm a producer i make hot azz beats that keep your head rocking . _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:49:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26470; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:43:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:43:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:42:37 -0700 From: "Jan Pek" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: swirlee@angelfire.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: asheville loopers X-Sender-Ip: 152.18.33.54 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey everyone- well, im back from my yearlong sojourn through eastern europe and asia. last year around this time, i was developing a MaxMSP multichannel looper for polyrhythmic bliss-- which i called fripp~ . does anyone remember that? well, the situation is this; staying in step with the biorhythms puts me in a lowtech position. actually im starting a smoothie cart selling freshsqueeze in downtown asheville, and making a lot of animal noises and dancing like a drunken shaman. the scoliosis is evermending, the spine and ribcage are reshaping themselves magically, totally against all predictability by western medicine. but im interested in connecting with fellow loopers in asheville: spontaneous trance through meditative repetition. playing around with process. how do we hold the space for music to come through? if someone had a mac i could tweak around on, id probably want to continue working on new looping tools... see, i think of a west african drumming circle, and i think of the organizational metaphors;; ok, you play this, you play that. or a jazz band, where the song is the unit of loose organization around which the melodies rise. or sitting meditation, where the breath is often the anchor around which the journey focalizes. but of course these are just the tip of a vast matrix of dream incubators, of ways to coax the little devils out of their musical closets... so if you're into looping together, lets jiggit. love jan Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:06:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27212; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:56:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:56:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: rich@nuvisionsca.com Cc: NLRP1@hotmail.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:55:41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 18:55:42.0294 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E9DE760:01C0EDF1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My Bad. I have gotten some flak about my responses to Samplestation, weeding their way into loopers delight. I apologize, I just wanted to hear to see if any of the Loopers had in comments on this situation, some words of wisdom for Dj Ice, that is all. I will stop my CC'ing LD after this. ----Original Message Follows---- From: rich To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:14:39 -0700 hi! rich here from Looper's Delight. hope you are well. can you check and see if the mail that you're responding to is getting sent to the Looper's Delight list as well? it seems wierd...we're not getting the posts that you are responding to, but we're getting your responses... any ideas? best, rich >I think this was directed toward's me ? >Ok, maybe I sounded harsh in my "schooling" of Dj Ice, and I >apologize for that. It was not meant for criticism (well not >destructive that is),I just was commenting on his method of >requesting the MIDI files that he wanted to work on, not his ability >in actually manipulating the files. I have no idea what this man's >skill level is, but neither will the artist who wanted their MIDI >tracks remixed. How will they know, or why would the trust their >work with someone who sounded as if he didn't know a MIDI file, from >a Mini Skirt, but again I sound too harsh. Dj Ice might just be the >next Cameron Paul, all I know, but I was not impressed with his >sales pitch.... > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: stuart ricks >Reply-To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com >To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. >Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:34:28 +0100 (BST) > >Some comments arent really all that fair, lets be >honest at the end of the day music is music, wether >its made from midi, wav or mp3 files. It also shouldnt >matter how competant you are, music is not a serious >attitude, its supose to be fun and an enjoyment. > >I admit I dont know a great deal about midi files or >how they work, but the whole point is that with each >step you learn, and hopefully with this group we help >and teatch each other about different mediums and >forms of working. > >Dont diss someone just because they dont know, help >them to understand there problem, or give honest >critisism. DJKameleon > >____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk >or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:44:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29255; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:36:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:36:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008401c0edf6$5ea9d4e0$96456f40@oemcomputer> From: "petr" To: , References: Subject: Re: Clean rhythmn and dirty solos -set up question Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:33:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDRemoteIP: 64.111.69.150 X-Return-Path: petr@tryi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: petr@tryi.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x loop > of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean rhythm but > when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to a dirty > sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as to > record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound. *** I have 2120 as well. I place my EDP after 2120. I run 2120 together with several other sources (mics, percussion, etc.) through Samson mixer's aux out into EDP. Works just wonderful. I would not see 2120's f/x loop useful in your case. _________________________________________ Petr Dolák music * poetry * guitar looping * commodeon * percussion www.geocities.com/pepetr http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/229/petr_dolak_samojsky.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:50:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29813; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:47:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:47:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:47:17 -0500 Subject: Looping dee-vices From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <008401c0edf6$5ea9d4e0$96456f40@oemcomputer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey all, What looping devices out there will allow you to REMOVE layers once you've stacked them? I enjoy my boomerang, but sometimes I'd like to go back a few steps. It only allows you to build upward, not really allowing you to take any alternate directions... thanks, mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:51:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29518; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:43:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:43:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <012c01c0edf7$96daca80$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: asheville loopers Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:42:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Welcome back, Jan! I remember your MaxMSP work. Almost made me get a Mac (BTW: the Max for PC, promised for release in the last century, is still not yet available.) Is that Asheville, NC, (USA)? I'm rather far away in Indiana but still interested in what you're up to. Keep us posted! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:58:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30261; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:55:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:55:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1BE@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Looping dee-vices Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:57:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I just purchased the Gibson Echoplex and it has an undo button that will cancel a previous action or erase a previous cycle. It can erase several layers if memory permits. I still have a whole universe of possibilities to explore with the echoplex and hope to post more information later. weg -----Original Message----- From: Mike Feeney [mailto:feeneymike@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 3:47 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping dee-vices Hey all, What looping devices out there will allow you to REMOVE layers once you've stacked them? I enjoy my boomerang, but sometimes I'd like to go back a few steps. It only allows you to build upward, not really allowing you to take any alternate directions... thanks, mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 16:09:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31702; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:03:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:03:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014801c0edfa$26248b70$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <20010604230320.94076.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> <003301c0ed50$f8b2ae00$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> Subject: gig announcement Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:00:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My improv group, "TransSonic Music", will be performing at the Michiana Improvisational Music Festival this Sunday, June 10 at approximately 2 PM. I'll be looping somewhat, though I would not call it a "looper show." The Michiana Improvisational Music Festival is held on the South Bend (Indiana) campus of Indiana University. Schedule: Friday, June 8, 2001, Improv Sessions at 2, 4, & 7 PM Saturday, June 9, 2001, Improv Sessions at 9 & 11 AM, 2 PM Concerts at 4 & 8 PM Sunday, June 10, 2001, Improv session at 10 AM Concert at 2 PM All events are in Recital Hall, Northside Rm 158, on the campus of IU South Bend. Ticket prices for the three concerts are $5.00 in advance, $7.00 at the door. Hope to see some of you there! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 16:44:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32506; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:36:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:36:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106052035.NAA10173@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:43:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Reverb? I'll show you reverb: From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4bo-u.A.v7H.uKUH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Travis, I am not sure that I should thank you for posting this because I have waisted way too much time playing it and I will surely be fired from my job. This has got to be the most addicting thing I have ever played with!! Now, if we could only coordinate a bunch of LD participants at a specified time with their own loops to upload... -Allan ---------- >From: Travis Hartnett >To: "Looper's Delight" >Subject: Reverb? I'll show you reverb: >Date: Mon, Jun 4, 2001, 9:28 PM > > I don't recall this being discussed previously, but this is now #1 on my > list of places to play a ambient show at: > > http://www.silophone.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 16:45:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32546; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:37:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:37:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00bc01c0edff$53fb5ec0$1743f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106051840.OAA26332@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re:Electrix insecurity Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:37:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I personally have grown to love my Electrix products (I own the Filter Factory and the Warp Factory and just ordered the Mo-FX during this recent blowout deal.............I hope it gets sent). My feeling, and those of several self described processing freaks I know is that these products were priced too expensively, originally. There seems to be a magic line at $200 for specific effects boxes (unlike the plethora of multi-effects boxes on the market). This is, of course, a gross generalization, but I think if these wonderful deviced could be priced at around $200 they would sell much better. To most people, a vocoder or a filter box are very cool but not an 'essential' and it's hard to afford $300-$350 for something that's not essential. I bit the bullet, financially, to buy them, but I'm really glad I did. I really hope that they have a success with the Repeater. They've been a cool and innovative company!!! Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 16:50:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00683; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:47:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:47:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1D451E.898AF88B@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:46:22 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I bet this is right on the money. (no pun intended) It's possible that they're coming out with a new line, but selling a product that listed for $399 for $99? That seems VERY suspicious. Reminds me of when one of my roommates sold is 27" new TV for $75 to buy crack. (true story, I moved later that evening) I hope they don't buckle under the competition from the Againinator. Mark Sottilaro Mark Landman wrote: > Hmmmmm- If these products were selling well at all, I can't see why > Electrix would delete the revenue stream, especially now that Repeater is > getting ready to ship after a long painful and probably expensive delay. > > My guess would be manufacture of all the Repeater boxes and the attendant > delay in Repeater's shipping (and thus bringing in $) may have temporarily > put the company in a bind. > > The sell-off would raise extra cash quickly, though not as much as if > they'd left them at their previous prices. Still, probably worth doing if > you need the cash now, and perhaps Electrix has plans for replacement > products. I certainly hope so, I am in awe of Electrix user interface and > no preset concept. I was less in awe of the inflexible parrallel effx > routing of MoFx, and the filter box that went into "painful speaker > destroying 10 times louder than the previous signal" oscillation at a > resonance setting of about 50%. > > Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I > certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > > Mark > > >Peter Wilson (06:12 PM 06/04/01) wrote: > > > >>I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack > >>effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? > >> > >>--- > >>Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost > >>for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. > >> > >>Special Comment: > >>Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us > >>in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy > >>--- > > > >No, this is not true. My guess is that either Zzounds are being > >spoiled-sports or they're just not informed. > > > > > >It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's > >Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. > > > >Electrix is discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to > >focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. Repeaters are built, packed > >in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still > >looking at shipping very soon. > > > >It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their > >resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're > >seeing happen with Electrix. > > > > > >Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:27:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02818; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:23:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:23:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:22:08 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 21:22:08.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[93D28B30:01C0EE05] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Crack for $75.00 ? Where are you from....? Then again, I digress. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:46:22 -0700 I bet this is right on the money. (no pun intended) It's possible that they're coming out with a new line, but selling a product that listed for $399 for $99? That seems VERY suspicious. Reminds me of when one of my roommates sold is 27" new TV for $75 to buy crack. (true story, I moved later that evening) I hope they don't buckle under the competition from the Againinator. Mark Sottilaro Mark Landman wrote: > Hmmmmm- If these products were selling well at all, I can't see why > Electrix would delete the revenue stream, especially now that Repeater is > getting ready to ship after a long painful and probably expensive delay. > > My guess would be manufacture of all the Repeater boxes and the attendant > delay in Repeater's shipping (and thus bringing in $) may have temporarily > put the company in a bind. > > The sell-off would raise extra cash quickly, though not as much as if > they'd left them at their previous prices. Still, probably worth doing if > you need the cash now, and perhaps Electrix has plans for replacement > products. I certainly hope so, I am in awe of Electrix user interface and > no preset concept. I was less in awe of the inflexible parrallel effx > routing of MoFx, and the filter box that went into "painful speaker > destroying 10 times louder than the previous signal" oscillation at a > resonance setting of about 50%. > > Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I > certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > > Mark > > >Peter Wilson (06:12 PM 06/04/01) wrote: > > > >>I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack > >>effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? > >> > >>--- > >>Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost > >>for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. > >> > >>Special Comment: > >>Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us > >>in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy > >>--- > > > >No, this is not true. My guess is that either Zzounds are being > >spoiled-sports or they're just not informed. > > > > > >It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's > >Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. > > > >Electrix is discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to > >focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. Repeaters are built, packed > >in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still > >looking at shipping very soon. > > > >It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their > >resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're > >seeing happen with Electrix. > > > > > >Mark _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:29:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02626; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:21:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:21:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1D4D3B.6E83E68B@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:21:00 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: swirlee@angelfire.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: asheville loopers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In reference to your spine, I too had bad back problems that started a few months ago. Thought it was repetitive stress from work/guitar related stuff, but nothing (including not playing guitar) made it go away. (bad pain in the back and shoulders and numbness in both hands) As it turns out, it was all in my mind. Brought about initially by stress (just got married, wife moved in, job stuff) soon it fed on itself. Worry that I'd make it worse, made it worse. I read a book by Dr. John Sarno called "Healing back pain" and the pain started subsiding as I read! I'm now totally fine. The mind makes it real. Mark Sottilaro Jan Pek wrote: > hey everyone- > > well, im back from my yearlong sojourn through eastern europe and asia. last year around this time, i was developing a MaxMSP multichannel looper for polyrhythmic bliss-- which i called fripp~ . does anyone remember that? > > well, the situation is this; staying in step with the biorhythms puts me in a lowtech position. actually im starting a smoothie cart selling freshsqueeze in downtown asheville, and making a lot of animal noises and dancing like a drunken shaman. the scoliosis is evermending, the spine and ribcage are reshaping themselves magically, totally against all predictability by western medicine. > > but im interested in connecting with fellow loopers in asheville: spontaneous trance through meditative repetition. playing around with process. how do we hold the space for music to come through? if someone had a mac i could tweak around on, id probably want to continue working on new looping tools... > > see, i think of a west african drumming circle, and i think of the organizational metaphors;; ok, you play this, you play that. or a jazz band, where the song is the unit of loose organization around which the melodies rise. or sitting meditation, where the breath is often the anchor around which the journey focalizes. but of course these are just the tip of a vast matrix of dream incubators, of ways to coax the little devils out of their musical closets... > > so if you're into looping together, lets jiggit. > > love > jan > > > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:31:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03006; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:25:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:25:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping dee-vices That Allow De-Layering Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:25:03 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 21:25:04.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC378CC0:01C0EE05] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Zoom ST - 224 has that capability, but it must be done while in Song Mode. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Mike Feeney Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Subject: Looping dee-vices Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:47:17 -0500 Hey all, What looping devices out there will allow you to REMOVE layers once you've stacked them? I enjoy my boomerang, but sometimes I'd like to go back a few steps. It only allows you to build upward, not really allowing you to take any alternate directions... thanks, mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:32:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03264; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:29:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:29:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C6D@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix going out of business? Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:28:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com haha -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Crack for $75.00 ? Where are you from....? Then again, I digress. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:42:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03759; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:37:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:37:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1D5318.465A@Hevanet.Com.> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:46:00 -0700 From: DaViD AuKeR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP memory question References: <200106051840.OAA26332@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7TbQuD.A.u5.JEVH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi - When upgrading memory in the EDP, in liu of 4MBs, can you use 8MB SIMMs, and/or 16MB SIMMs instead? I know the Guide says 256KB, 1MB, and 4MB... Thnx, David flute/synth/edp/dl4/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 18:18:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05659; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:16:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:16:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B1D4D3B.6E83E68B@zerocrossing.net> References: <3B1D4D3B.6E83E68B@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:06:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: asheville loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >The mind makes it real. and you're thinkin'....you should have taken the blue pill... :) rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 19:31:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08432; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:24:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:24:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:23:53 EDT Subject: Re: gig announcement To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b8.169e0a5d.284ec409_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_b8.169e0a5d.284ec409_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/01 4:02:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dennis@mdbs.com writes: > Hope to see some of you there! > yeah.....dont wear your "LD" tea shirt! why make it easy?.....:).....michael --part1_b8.169e0a5d.284ec409_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/01 4:02:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dennis@mdbs.com
writes:


Hope to see some of you there!


yeah.....dont wear your "LD" tea shirt! why make it easy?.....:).....michael
--part1_b8.169e0a5d.284ec409_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 19:46:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08918; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:43:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:43:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9d.1677902d.284ec849@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:42:01 EDT Subject: Re: asheville loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9d.1677902d.284ec849_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <8ElWm.A.DLC.s5WH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_9d.1677902d.284ec849_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/01 5:21:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sine@zerocrossing.net writes: > As it turns out, it was all in my mind. yikes.....i guess "you always hurt the one you love".....:).....michael --part1_9d.1677902d.284ec849_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/01 5:21:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sine@zerocrossing.net writes:


As it turns out, it was all in my mind.  


yikes.....i guess "you always hurt the one you love".....:).....michael
--part1_9d.1677902d.284ec849_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 19:50:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09189; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:47:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:47:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1D6F8C.3C4EFDEE@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:47:25 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Clean rhythmn and dirty solos -set up question References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4712583B3ADB8FB058E5421E" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------4712583B3ADB8FB058E5421E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need to put the RC-20 after the 2120. (I've got one) It won't work via the effect loop. AALev123@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x > loop > of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean > rhythm but > when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to > a dirty > sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as > to > record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound. > > Thanks. --------------4712583B3ADB8FB058E5421E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need to put the RC-20 after the 2120.  (I've got one)  It won't work via the effect loop.

AALev123@aol.com wrote:

Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x loop
of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean rhythm but
when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to a dirty
sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as to
record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound.
Thanks.
--------------4712583B3ADB8FB058E5421E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 21:06:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12670; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:03:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:03:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: ING-MM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <4A256A63.00054673.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:57:30 +1000 Subject: Electrix Electrix........ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Everyone has been talking about the electrix sale. Anyway, do any of the retailers have websites and are friendly to non-North American purchasers......Musicians Friend aren't friendly to me.....bo ho :-( I'm trying to find someone who will sell to me in Australia...Any help appreciated. Cheers, Anthony NOTICE The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 21:34:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13483; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:32:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:32:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <9a.15465a36.284ee1fc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:31:40 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix Electrix........ To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi-This is Jon from Alto-I have a few left and what the hell-I'll take a loss and sell them at this silly price-Email me at altomusic@altomusic.com,tell me what you want and I will dole them out first come first served-I am home so I don't know exactly what I have, but I have 7 or 8 pieces in stock.Happy Hunting! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 21:34:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13280; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:27:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:27:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Matt Jacques" To: Subject: RE: Electrix Electrix........ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <4A256A63.00054673.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nevermind Australia, I can't even get Electrix products delivered to CANADA, home of Electrix. I've contacted all the online sites, and none are willing to ship to canada. Well, SamAsh.com was, but that was for FULL PRICE only. And the most frustrating thing is that the local Electrix dealer (as indicated on the Electrix website) hadn't even heard of the company or products! What an embarassment for canada. There's this great canadian company and great products, but canadians can't order them online... and when we walk into a store they don't know what we're talking about! Ugh! Well, after some talking to, the dealer found that "Hey, what do you know, I CAN order you those Electrix things"... but for FULL PRICE. Anyways, I feel your pain australia... the search continues (any suggestions welcome)... Matt -----Original Message----- From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au [mailto:Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au] Sent: 2001mm05 6:58 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electrix Electrix........ Everyone has been talking about the electrix sale. Anyway, do any of the retailers have websites and are friendly to non-North American purchasers......Musicians Friend aren't friendly to me.....bo ho :-( I'm trying to find someone who will sell to me in Australia...Any help appreciated. Cheers, Anthony NOTICE The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 22:04:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15142; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:01:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:01:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010606020102.11607.qmail@web3503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:01:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Deveaux Subject: Re: Electrix Electrix........ To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9a.15465a36.284ee1fc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I would like the WARP & MO FX. Please let me know if any are left. Thanks, --- JHKNICKS@aol.com wrote: > Hi-This is Jon from Alto-I have a few left and > what the hell-I'll take a loss > and sell them at this silly price-Email me at > altomusic@altomusic.com,tell me > what you want and I will dole them out first > come first served-I am home so I > don't know exactly what I have, but I have 7 or > 8 pieces in stock.Happy > Hunting! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 01:57:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA21564; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:53:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:53:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0ee4c$bd897000$09856fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: Subject: Warning! Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:30:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Beware of fiddling with your PC... leave well alone! A friend has been having some trouble with his computer system.. Last year he upgraded to Girlfriend 1.0 from DrinkingMates 4.0, which he'd used for years without trouble. Apparently there are conflicts between these two systems; the only solution was to try and run Girlfriend with the sound turned off. To make matters worse, Girlfriend is incompatible with several other applications, such as BoysNightOut 3.1, Football 2.6 and all versions of PornPlus. Successive versions of Girlfriend proved no better, Girlfriend 3.0 has many bugs and left a virus in his system forcing him to shut down completely for several weeks. Eventually he tried installing Girlfriend 4.0 only to discover the two ystems detect each other and cause severe damage to all his hardware. Sensing a way out he upgraded to Fiancée 1.0, only to discover to his dismay that this system requires upgrading to Wife 1.0 however whilst Wife 1.0 uses up all available resources, it does come bundled with FreeSexPlus. Imagine my friends disappointment though on discovering that FreeSexPlus can only be run on a well warmed up system, and even then you can't guarantee access; it also refused some new plug-ins he'd been keen to try. Wife 1.0 also has a rather unattractive pop-up called Mother-in-Law, which unfortunately cannot be turned off. Recently he has been tempted to try the Mistress 2000 add on, but there could be problems. Should Wife 1.0 detect the presence of the Mistress 2000 package, it will delete all MSMoney files before uninstalling itself. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 02:11:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22999; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:09:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:09:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010606001328.007c51a0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:13:28 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Warning! In-Reply-To: <000201c0ee4c$bd897000$09856fd4@dolly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! Goddess --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 02:26:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23297; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:18:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:18:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.35.108.131] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:17:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 06:17:17.0097 (UTC) FILETIME=[55D1A190:01C0EE50] Resent-Message-ID: <_oJf6B.A.0rF.MscH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ah the truth hurts don't it?? db >From: Goddess >AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! > >Goddess > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 02:26:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23609; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:22:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:22:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010606062141.76429.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:21:41 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Warning! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000201c0ee4c$bd897000$09856fd4@dolly> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Other problems with Girlfriend 1.0......... 1) operator must perform ALL data dumps in a separate room with adequate ventilation. 2) frequently receive message to "log off". John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 02:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24032; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:26:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:26:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.35.108.131] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:26:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 06:26:03.0324 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F797FC0:01C0EE51] Resent-Message-ID: <-4cgCB.A.b1F._zcH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: John Tidwell >Other problems with Girlfriend 1.0......... > >1) operator must perform ALL data dumps in > a separate room with adequate ventilation. > >2) frequently receive message to "log off". >> >John you know i've received that second message from various "demo" or "Beta" versions of Girlfriend 1.0 - but my msg had another word in place of "log" in "log off" :-D db _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 04:44:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27946; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 04:41:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 04:41:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.98.52] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] re: response to your reply. Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:40:02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 08:40:03.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[478E9200:01C0EE64] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh, the Triton Pro (76 Key ?), yes I know it well, I am using that one as we speak, but I digress. I sniffed through your email, and I smell trouble. It seems as if you have a reBirth problem, but do you really ? (I hope these aren't warez, cracked versions.... that series of programs are hot on the warez sites, and it's just a coincidence that you have them...., but I digress). ReBirth is similar to Fruity Loops Pro, except you are not using .wav files. The ReBirth is a synth, and many of the sounds (if not all), are generated by the application. You just need some help in programming the interface, which is like a Drum Machine, Synth and Tracker all in one. Now, to program it, you must understand step recording (that's simple), and have some music theory... 1/2 beats all that jazz. I can't really sit here and type all that is involved with the app, because it is very extensive and difficult, ( I know I dragged through it). But make sure you do not have the "cracked" version. It (I hear) does not function properly. It's like having the demo, but with save function. You can not import skins, and no matter what you try, you keep getting that Demo song in that Bad Oscar! Trying to clear the banks, so that you can imput your own stuff is difficult, so I HOPE you have the real version, WareZ just suck. Well, if you still need help, ask me something specific, and I will try to help as much as I can. There is a cool app called ReMaker, which will convert your .rbs files to .wav files for further mixing... but I digress! *** Special Note - I really don't have anything against WareZ, back in the day, I was poor and destitute, so that was the only way I could get this stuff, now I am gainfully employed, so I have no problem buying the original apps (no matter the cost.... well I did buy ACID 3.0 for $99.00, but that is another matter). Peace and Hair Grease ! ----Original Message Follows---- Ok now this thread is boring me.....wish i never said anything now. Right now all is said and done, i wonder if you guys can help me, Ive been using programmes like acid pro 2, friuty loops 3, cool edit pro 2000 and soundforge five get on with them brilliantly but and its a big BUT, (not mine i have quite a cute but) i bought Steinbergs ReBirth 2.0.1 quite some time ago cost me alot and really cant get on with it, i understand its a sequencer/synth/sampler but really how does it work the manual you get with it you need a manual to understand it, I presume it again deals with the good ol'midi files, and if this is the case i really need to save up for that triton keyboard. mmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM dounts! ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 08:48:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02515; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:44:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:44:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1E3374.497AB548@cabq.gov> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:43:16 -0700 From: Jason Fink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix Electrix........ References: <9a.15465a36.284ee1fc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jon, I would like to get a Filter Factory if you still have one available. Thanks, -jas Jason FInk 1008 Columbia Dr NE JHKNICKS@aol.com wrote: > Hi-This is Jon from Alto-I have a few left and what the hell-I'll take a loss > and sell them at this silly price-Email me at altomusic@altomusic.com,tell me > what you want and I will dole them out first come first served-I am home so I > don't know exactly what I have, but I have 7 or 8 pieces in stock.Happy > Hunting! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 09:40:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04330; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:31:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:31:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AALev123@aol.com Message-ID: <80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:31:10 EDT Subject: Re: Clean rhythmn and dirty solos -set up question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks I did ot and played for hours last night. I guess having it in the loop was causing the "looped" sound to go back into the 2120 and get processed--I finally understand that the looper had to be post processing ............. --part1_80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks I did ot and played for hours last night. I guess having it in the
loop was causing the "looped" sound to go back into the 2120 and get
processed--I finally understand that the looper had to be post processing
.............
--part1_80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 10:39:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06598; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:33:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:33:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:26:31 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: asheville loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004701c0ee8c$4cdce130$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <3B1D4D3B.6E83E68B@zerocrossing.net> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com LOL! ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: Re: asheville loopers > >The mind makes it real. > > and you're thinkin'....you should have taken the blue pill... :) > > rich > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 10:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07395; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:54:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:54:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002c01c0ee98$6a87d3a0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:53:09 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: "Professor Vast" > >2) frequently receive message to "log off". > you know i've received that second message from various "demo" or "Beta" > versions of Girlfriend 1.0 - but my msg had another word in place of "log" > in "log off" :-D Does it start with a 'b'? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 11:37:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09151; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:28:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:28:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:19:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Warning! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, much less without an OT in the topic header. passing on stupid jokes about disfunctional marraiges doesn't encourage any change...hey, let's all go watch 'married with children'! let's reinforce outdated, useless and harmful social mores! and if you're old school, i'm sure we can dig up some 'all in the family'. 2cents, rich >ah the truth hurts don't it?? > >db > >>From: Goddess > >>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! >> >>Goddess >> >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 11:48:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09570; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:41:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:41:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C7E@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Warning! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:40:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <4IBgI.A.TVC.E8kH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wow a new self appointed list moderator -----Original Message----- From: rich [mailto:rich@nuvisionsca.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:19 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 11:55:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10059; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:51:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:51:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: THusken@aol.com Message-ID: <10f.ce14c6.284fab30@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:50:08 EDT Subject: Re: Warning! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10f.ce14c6.284fab30_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10524 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_10f.ce14c6.284fab30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -allthough admittadley OT I must admit I found it humorous. Lighten up people. I doubt that peolple who are actually simple enough to be sexist (-or racist, etc etc) would be bright enough to pick up on the humor in something like that to begin with. Am I wrong? It's tounge in cheek humor...remember?! --part1_10f.ce14c6.284fab30_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -allthough admittadley OT I must admit I found it humorous.  Lighten up
people.  I doubt that peolple who are actually simple enough to be sexist
(-or racist, etc etc) would be bright enough to pick up on the humor in
something like that to begin with.  Am I wrong?  It's tounge in cheek
humor...remember?!
--part1_10f.ce14c6.284fab30_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 12:12:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11592; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:08:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:08:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:07:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 16:07:16.0426 (UTC) FILETIME=[C17692A0:01C0EEA2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com oh cmon, it's ok to have fun now and then. db >From: rich >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Warning! >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:19:16 -0700 > >c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, much less >without an OT in the topic header. > >passing on stupid jokes about disfunctional marraiges doesn't >encourage any change...hey, let's all go watch 'married with >children'! let's reinforce outdated, useless and harmful social >mores! > >and if you're old school, i'm sure we can dig up some 'all in the family'. > >2cents, > >rich > >>ah the truth hurts don't it?? >> >>db >> >>>From: Goddess >> >>>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! >>> >>>Goddess >>> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:21:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14121; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:15:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:15:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C7E@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:14:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Warning! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I agree with Rich. This isn't the place for crap like that. Especially lame email jokes that have been around for 5 years like that wife 1.0 thing. Seriously, you have to be under a rock if you haven't received that crusty old joke 900 times already. It's as bad as hoax virus warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. please don't waste list bandwidth and people's time forwarding stuff like that, that is not an appropriate use of any mailing list. If it got forwarded to you, then its safe to assume the rest of us already got it a long time ago. We don't want it again. kim At 8:40 AM -0700 6/6/01, Taaffe, Denis G wrote: >wow a new self appointed list moderator > >-----Original Message----- >From: rich [mailto:rich@nuvisionsca.com] >Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:19 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Warning! > > >c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, m ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:34:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14432; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:26:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:26:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Splitting a Siganl With out Quality Loss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.5 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:30:00 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could purchase_i would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 and run it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions would be great! thanks c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:41:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14700; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:32:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:32:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: alex@postal.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:31:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: RE: Warning! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <_QpbcC.A.jlD.OkmH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >It's as bad as hoax virus >warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. I agree and didn't find that joke funny the first time I saw it a decade ago. Still, I can't help but smile at the irony of decrying its repetitive appearance, on the looper's list. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:41:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14701; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:32:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:32:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:30:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200106061730.f56HUfQ02718@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: Electrix Electrix........ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jon I want a Filter factory do you need The credit card Number? Andy At 09:31 p.m. 05/06/01 EDT, you wrote: >Hi-This is Jon from Alto-I have a few left and what the hell-I'll take a loss >and sell them at this silly price-Email me at altomusic@altomusic.com,tell me >what you want and I will dole them out first come first served-I am home so I >don't know exactly what I have, but I have 7 or 8 pieces in stock.Happy >Hunting! > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:45:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15128; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:40:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:40:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009e01c0eeaf$70367b00$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:38:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well Alex, I'd say sometimes we loop flatulence and it sounds ok, sometimes, it's drives people up a tree ... gagging. Cheers, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stahl" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:31 PM Subject: RE: Warning! > >It's as bad as hoax virus > >warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. > > I agree and didn't find that joke funny the first time I saw it a > decade ago. Still, I can't help but smile at the irony of decrying > its repetitive appearance, on the looper's list. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:52:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15647; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:49:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:49:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006401c0eeb0$060c5460$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: EDP Midi updates in new OS? Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:40:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C0EE75.24936E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C0EE75.24936E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mattias and Kim-=20 Hi guys- been using my EDP synced or generating Midi Clock lately- = either to Cubase, Acid or out to a delay unit- I am wondering if the new = software will support timecode and also if there will be a way to = re-sync to incoming clock on the fly- the 2 sources drift after awhile = and also it would make tempo transitions smooth I think- Thanks again- = Cliff PS- Should have FilterFactory, MoFx, and a WarpFactory in a few days- = couldn't resist the price- getting more interesting by the minute at my = place.... ;) ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C0EE75.24936E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi guys- been using my EDP synced or generating Midi = Clock=20 lately- either to Cubase, Acid or out to a delay unit- I am wondering if = the new=20 software will support timecode and also if there will be a way to = re-sync to=20 incoming clock on the fly- the 2 sources drift after awhile and also it = would=20 make tempo transitions smooth I think- Thanks again- Cliff
 
PS- Should have FilterFactory, MoFx, and a = WarpFactory in a=20 few days- couldn't resist the price-  getting more interesting by = the=20 minute at my place.... ;)
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C0EE75.24936E40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:21:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17483; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:14:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:14:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:16:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Repeater Delay again? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I hope this is all B.S., but the Gaspedal.com effx site tersely mentions in it's Electrix area: "Sampler has been pushed back till Oct 2001...Who Knows" Damon, Don anyone, please say it ain't so! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18017; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:29:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:29:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010606123311.007e5df0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:33:11 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Warning! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com NOT BLOODY LIKELY! lol! Smiles, G At 11:17 PM 6/5/01 -0700, you wrote: >ah the truth hurts don't it?? > >db > >>From: Goddess > >>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! >> >>Goddess >> >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:35:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18301; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:32:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:32:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010606123641.007e8500@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:36:41 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Warning! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com *laughing* I sware, I'll have to dig up Boyfriend 1.0, I know it's around here somewhere... Smiles, G At 11:26 PM 6/5/01 -0700, you wrote: >>From: John Tidwell > >>Other problems with Girlfriend 1.0......... >> >>1) operator must perform ALL data dumps in >> a separate room with adequate ventilation. >> >>2) frequently receive message to "log off". >>> >>John > >you know i've received that second message from various "demo" or "Beta" >versions of Girlfriend 1.0 - but my msg had another word in place of "log" >in "log off" :-D > >db >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:40:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18706; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:38:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:38:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:33:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Repeater Delay again? From: Jamie Drouin To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <76GhnB.A.JkE.6hnH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Not true. Not sure where that info came from, but it wasn't from us. on 6/6/01 11:16 AM, Mark Landman at landman@wco.com wrote: > I hope this is all B.S., but the Gaspedal.com effx site tersely mentions in > it's Electrix area: > > "Sampler has been pushed back till Oct 2001...Who Knows" > > Damon, Don anyone, please say it ain't so! > > Mark > Jamie Drouin Visual Designer for Electrix (a division of IVL Technologies Ltd) 6710 Bertram Place, Victoria, BC, V8M 1Z6 Canada email... jamie@electrixpro.com fax... 250-544-4102 voice... 250-544-4114 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:53:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19111; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:44:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:44:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C84@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: girlfriend hand exerciser Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:44:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ok, now that we have spent 20 messages or so condeming this girlfriend dominatrix 1.0revisonb and I realize that I am adding to the shit heap with this message can we move on? I was just being sarcastic about the list moderator thing...laugh a little cry alittle move on...haha don't spam me publicly for this verbal diahrreah denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com ---- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:07:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20813; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:03:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:03:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010606130759.0093e140@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:07:59 -0600 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: DL-4 question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com LOL! Perhaps I should have said, LD-4, or LM-4 or maybe XQ-4 instead! OK, anyway, I'm curious, I know the exp pedal one can buy for the DL-4 can allow one to control the loop's volume in realtime. Are there any other options available for it, by this I mean, rather than using it to continuously control loop level, can it be configured to start and stop sampling, perhaps if it were pressed fully up or down. I know that some CC pedals can work this way. i'm just not sure if it can be linked in the DL-4 to anything other than the level parameter. Thanks so much for any feedback. Smiles, Goddess --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:24:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21383; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:21:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:21:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:22:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: DL-4 question... Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >OK, anyway, I'm curious, I know the exp pedal one can buy for the DL-4 can >allow one to control the loop's volume in realtime. Are there any other >options available for it, by this I mean, rather than using it to >continuously control loop level, can it be configured to start and stop >sampling, perhaps if it were pressed fully up or down. I know that some CC >pedals can work this way. i'm just not sure if it can be linked in the >DL-4 to anything other than the level parameter. Thanks so much for any >feedback. > The pedal can be programmed to control any of the 5 front panel knobs, Delay, Repeats, Tweak, Tweez and Mix. You can control any combination of the 5, and any range of parameters within them. For example, you can have the delay control go through 1/4 of it's range while the repeats control goes from 0 to max. It's a pretty amazingly flexible system, and really easy to program as well. However, it can't be configured to start and stop sampling, so it won't do what you want. But it will do a heck of a lot instead! Hope this helps... ____________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org New & Improv Media http://www.newandimprov.com Now available: Admiral Twinkle Devil: Wabi Dub ____________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:27:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21764; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:24:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:24:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Michael Hunter" Importance: Normal Subject: Electrix Available here too! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Sender: "Michael Hunter" Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:20:33 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML235/01/M/IBM(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 06/06/2001 03:23:21 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Zzound's not matching,eh?! Strange....check this out... I went to my local music store and told them about the price drop. They honored the new price after hearing about Sam Ash and GTR Centers price drop. :-) I got the MO-FX and the FilterFactory...$99.00 each! They called me back today and asked for me to bring the card board boxes back to get some info....apparently Electrix is going to refund the difference in the wholesale cost to the store... Good business practice, eh? Doesn't sould like a move a company gong out of business would make, I think. So, if you want any of these Electrix items, I'd give them a call. Russo Music 1989 Arena Dr. Hamilton, NJ 609-888-0620 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:31:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22167; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:28:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:28:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010606130759.0093e140@mail.earthlink.net> References: <3.0.5.32.20010606130759.0093e140@mail.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:27:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: DL-4 question... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Goddess speaks: > LOL! Perhaps I should have said, LD-4, or LM-4 or maybe >XQ-4 instead! >OK, anyway, I'm curious, I know the exp pedal one can buy for the DL-4 can >allow one to control the loop's volume in realtime. Are there any other >options available for it, by this I mean, rather than using it to >continuously control loop level, can it be configured to start and stop >sampling, perhaps if it were pressed fully up or down. I know that some CC >pedals can work this way. i'm just not sure if it can be linked in the >DL-4 to anything other than the level parameter. Thanks so much for any >feedback. on the DL-4, you can make one dial setting be the top of the pedal's travel, and another setting be the bottom of the pedal's travel, and just morph between the two settings with the pedal. so in some ways you can control ALL the parameters. the bad part is that the pedal jumps to the location that it happens to be at when you switch presets which can be VERY annoying. you'd need to exert some discipline like always moving the pedal to the bottom when changing presets. there's no way as far as I know to get it to act as a trigger. /t .....all legal games of chess ... ........formal model of chess ............. ...programmer's documentation ............... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:45:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22981; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:42:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:42:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C84@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> References: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C84@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:34:25 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: list looping (was: Re: Warning!) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com again, I'm moved to point out how email flurries are in fact caused by uncontrolled feedback, looping in this case through the looper's delight mailing list. when the feedback ratio exceeds 1, when each email generates more than one response, there's an email flurry and your in-box howls... /t .....all legal games of chess ... ........formal model of chess ............. ...programmer's documentation ............... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:49:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22678; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:40:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:40:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:44:16 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1iuEmB.A.thF.-boH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com a resource for these splitters soon! thanks On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:30:00 -0400 "Christopher White" wrote: > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > purchase_i > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 and > run > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions would be > great! > thanks > c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:50:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23381; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:46:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:46:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:43:53 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: atze-ton@t-online.de (P. C. Falk) Subject: RE: Warning! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: 520088622683-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>It's as bad as hoax virus >>warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. > >I agree and didn't find that joke funny the first time I saw it a >decade ago. Still, I can't help but smile at the irony of decrying >its repetitive appearance, on the looper's list. I GIVE A FUCK TO YOUR PC VIRUS . DONT NO WHY ??????? BECAUSE I THINK & USE A MAC THE FUCK YOU CREW -- with best regards . p.s. take a look at my German homepage at : http://atze-ton.bei.t-online.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:53:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23806; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:50:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:50:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:49:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 19:49:32.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE2D7BC0:01C0EEC1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just make sure there aren't any "back door trojans" on there.... whahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahaahahhaha i swear, i could amuse myself for days...and often do :-D db >From: Goddess > *laughing* I sware, I'll have to dig up Boyfriend 1.0, I know it's >around here somewhere... > >Smiles, > >G > > At 11:26 PM 6/5/01 -0700, you wrote: > >>From: John Tidwell > > > >>Other problems with Girlfriend 1.0......... > >> > >>1) operator must perform ALL data dumps in > >> a separate room with adequate ventilation. > >> > >>2) frequently receive message to "log off". > >>> > >>John > > > >you know i've received that second message from various "demo" or "Beta" > >versions of Girlfriend 1.0 - but my msg had another word in place of >"log" > >in "log off" :-D > > > >db > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > >--- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. >-Then, anything is possible..." > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 16:07:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25494; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:03:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:03:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015201c0eec3$8a5280b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:01:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > > purchase_i > > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 and > > run > > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions would be > > great! Hi Chris! I've been waiting for some sp808 owners to pipe-up...but they seem quiet now. Cm'on you guys! In the meantime, I can try to help. I don't know the sp808 but why can't you just use a splitter from Radio Shack? Is it an active (line-level) output? 1/4" tip/ring/sleeve connector? More info, please. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 16:22:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26041; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:19:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:19:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:10:06 -0400 To: "Art List" From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance with Trance Dance 6.9.01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Folks, I'll be doing video improvisations as part of a Participatory Dance event called Trance Dance on Saturday night. So come shake your butt and tickle your eyeballs:) I don't know the admission price, but I'm sure its not huge. The last two were really fun, and had both live music and DJ 's spinning trancy world-beat. Sat.June 9 8:30 PM - 12:30 PM Arlington Town Hall 730 Mass. Ave Arlington, MA black light instillation, art instillation A sacred space celebrating the transformational power of music, dance and art and the power of community. To dance then,is to pray, to meditate, to enter into communion with the larger dance, which is the un -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 17:13:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28850; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:08:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:08:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008901c0eed6$75f55bc0$f99a46cf@txucom.net> From: "T. Peirce Baker" To: References: <015201c0eec3$8a5280b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:17:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <1GU7QB.A.KCH.4tpH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com get a stereo direct box for crying out loud! or a $99.00 Behringer 8 channel mixer, its quiet and will give many options.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Leas" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! > > > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > > > purchase_i > > > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 and > > > run > > > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions would be > > > great! > > Hi Chris! > > I've been waiting for some sp808 owners to pipe-up...but they seem quiet > now. Cm'on you guys! > > In the meantime, I can try to help. I don't know the sp808 but why can't > you just use a splitter from Radio Shack? Is it an active (line-level) > output? 1/4" tip/ring/sleeve connector? More info, please. > > Dennis Leas > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 17:25:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29408; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:20:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:20:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010606171809.009f3670@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:21:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: simple workaround Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_17950050==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: <2t3-9D.A.HLH.65pH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_17950050==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > Recently he has been tempted to try the Mistress 2000 add on, but there could be problems. Should Wife 1.0 detect the presence of the Mistress 2000 package, it will delete all MSMoney files before uninstalling itself < i think that Wife 1.0 PRO allows multiple-installs if you have the crack called "religion". a:c ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_17950050==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
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--=====================_17950050==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 18:28:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31741; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:25:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:25:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010606222429.5183.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert K Subject: Re: Splitting a Siganl With out Quality Loss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <5Wn9zC.A.0vH.f2qH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com someone listed this web site last week looks like the trick .. http://www.nobels.com/english.htm --- Christopher White wrote: > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > purchase_i > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 > and run > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions > would be > great! > thanks > c > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 18:58:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32343; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:44:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:44:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1EB314.517D5B5D@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:51:27 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Warning! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "P. C. Falk" wrote: > ...I GIVE A FUCK TO YOUR PC VIRUS . > > DONT NO WHY ??????? please don't yell at us... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 19:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32695; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:55:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:55:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003c01c0eedb$bc51cd60$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:54:56 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Why did it take "P. C. Falk" so long to say this?: > I GIVE A FUCK TO YOUR PC VIRUS . > DONT NO WHY ??????? > BECAUSE I THINK & USE A MAC > THE FUCK YOU CREW > -- > with best regards . Ah, sarcasm. How does one "think a Mac"? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 19:46:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02268; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:41:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:41:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AaroneousAG@aol.com Message-ID: <1e.16d996ad.28501976@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:40:38 EDT Subject: goodbye, old friend To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I unscrew the last bolt which has held him in place and with a heavy heart I pull him out of his case hook him up to the mixer for old time's sake but this time his echoes sound heartless and fake My band in a box Is now going away to a far away person that I met through ebay I know why he's mad why he's sour and miffed his new owner may make him loop bad Slayer riffs He's taught me so much and he's brought me so far but that road has run out and now I'm selling the car The response to my call, the pillow when I fall he's been everything and all and now I'm sorry to say That I needed the money I wish I'd been sweeter but I just sold my Jamman and bought a Repeater aaroneous P.S. Before any of you accuse me of opportunism, please note that I sold him for the exact amount I bought him for, if you count the memory expansion, and for a lot less than I was offered. (Thanks, Todd!) I'm a still a little broken up about it, but like to think that he's going to a good home. Machines have souls, given to them by the love and care of their inventor and the appreciation of their user. Think about it next time you bang your keyboard in frustration, or stomp angrily at your cranky LD-4 . . . I need to get out more . . . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:07:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03947; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:03:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:03:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01c501c0eee5$b4d5b600$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: <1e.16d996ad.28501976@aol.com> Subject: Re: goodbye, old friend Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:06:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wonderful- but it is a cruel deed and you should feel very guilty about it- even if another may reap wonderful benefits from your heartless sacrifice- Thank you for writing that poem! Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:40 PM Subject: goodbye, old friend > I unscrew the last bolt > which has held him in place > and with a heavy heart > I pull him out of his case > > hook him up to the mixer > for old time's sake > but this time his echoes > sound heartless and fake > > My band in a box > Is now going away > to a far away person > that I met through ebay > > I know why he's mad > why he's sour and miffed > his new owner may make him > loop bad Slayer riffs > > He's taught me so much > and he's brought me so far > but that road has run out > and now I'm selling the car > > The response to my call, > the pillow when I fall > he's been everything and all > and now I'm sorry to say > > That I needed the money > I wish I'd been sweeter > but I just sold my Jamman > and bought a Repeater > > > aaroneous > > > P.S. Before any of you accuse me of opportunism, please note that I sold him > for the > exact amount I bought him for, if you count the memory expansion, and for a > lot less > than I was offered. (Thanks, Todd!) I'm a still a little broken up about > it, but like to > think that he's going to a good home. Machines have souls, given to them by > the > love and care of their inventor and the appreciation of their user. Think > about it next > time you bang your keyboard in frustration, or stomp angrily at your cranky > LD-4 . . . I > need to get out more . . . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:14:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04309; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:11:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:11:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:10:51 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Delay again? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <91N1ZD.A.8CB.WasH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com jamie@electrixpro.com writes: >Not true. Not sure where that info came from, but it wasn't from us. thanks for the public info. blup, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:19:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04629; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:16:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:16:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.1515f967.285021c1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:16:01 EDT Subject: Re: Warning! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thefates@earthlink.net writes: >*laughing* I sware, I'll have to dig up Boyfriend 1.0, I know it's >around here somewhere... it's probably just way too much material to fit in a single e-mail. to paraphrase author robertson davies, if loosely: 'what *some* women exhibit once-per-month, *all* men exhibit daily'. or some such..... blap, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:21:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05031; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:20:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:20:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.100.190] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: girlfriend hand exerciser Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:19:14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 00:19:14.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[7BAD39A0:01C0EEE7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The man uses big words mommy..... You go boy ! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Taaffe, Denis G" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: girlfriend hand exerciser Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:44:22 -0500 ok, now that we have spent 20 messages or so condeming this girlfriend dominatrix 1.0revisonb and I realize that I am adding to the shit heap with this message can we move on? I was just being sarcastic about the list moderator thing...laugh a little cry alittle move on...haha don't spam me publicly for this verbal diahrreah denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com ---- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:25:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04804; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:18:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:18:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.100.190] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Warning - Ends Here ! Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:17:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 00:17:50.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[49511300:01C0EEE7] Resent-Message-ID: <_q7xiD.A.sKB.OhsH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Amen, it's worst than that guy who keeps including his SampleStation Thread replies with Looper Delight, or that guy who keeps praising ACID 3.0, like it was some sort of deity, or the guy who keeps trying to school want-a-be Dj/Producers, or... hey that's me...... I feel really bad. Oh, for those who think my SampleStation inclusions are off the mark, I apologize. I try to include enough of the thread in there, so you guys can comment, but alas, I failed in each try. Sometimes, I want the thread to get jumping, but when I make people unhappy, that saddens me. Oh, well thanks for your support. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Kim Flint Well, I agree with Rich. This isn't the place for crap like that. Especially lame email jokes that have been around for 5 years like that wife 1.0 thing. Seriously, you have to be under a rock if you haven't received that crusty old joke 900 times already. It's as bad as hoax virus warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. please don't waste list bandwidth and people's time forwarding stuff like that, that is not an appropriate use of any mailing list. If it got forwarded to you, then its safe to assume the rest of us already got it a long time ago. We don't want it again. kim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 21:25:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07339; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:20:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:20:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015b01c0eef0$512f7400$ca43f93f@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200106061745.NAA15505@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: OT girlfriend/wife/mistress joke and appropirateness Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:22:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dennis wrote: "wow a new self appointed list moderator" to which I reply: if someone wrote in with an offtopic racist joke, people would be all over there case. i just think that it has to be alienating to any woman to have such a 'boys club' atmosphere on our list. it is not a huge deal to me, nor am i outraged (being the WASP male that I am, i could actually see the humour in it and actually forwarded it to my realllllllllllyyy old school father) but i was also embarrassed that Goddess was forced to respond with AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHH. i want to be on a list that feels inclusive to everyone. this kind of post just seems a little counterproductive for that kind of vibe. i don't feel black and white about this issue and i think it is a general waste of time on this list. if you'd like to flame me,agree with me or elucidate me, please write me individually at GLOBAL@cruzio.com adn let's get onto the business of obsessing about ELECTRIX ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 22:04:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09195; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:00:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:00:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0eef5$58979060$03ac6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: Subject: Re: Warning! - OT Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:33:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I sent it to a girl friend of mine and SHE thought it was funny. But I don't want to make a big thing of it -sorry if I offended anyone. Gareth lidoffadaffodil > c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, much less > without an OT in the topic header. > > passing on stupid jokes about disfunctional marraiges doesn't > encourage any change...hey, let's all go watch 'married with > children'! let's reinforce outdated, useless and harmful social > mores! > > and if you're old school, i'm sure we can dig up some 'all in the family'. > > 2cents, > > rich > > >ah the truth hurts don't it?? > > > >db > > > >>From: Goddess > > > >>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! > >> > >>Goddess > >> > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 22:56:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10239; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:54:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:54:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.12.60.95] From: "nathaniel wilson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: asheville looper Whazzup Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:53:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 02:53:22.0018 (UTC) FILETIME=[038E7C20:01C0EEFD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: rich >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: asheville loopers >Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:06:58 -0700 > >>The mind makes it real. > >and you're thinkin'....you should have taken the blue pill... :) > >rich > Heya jan, I lived in weaverville for about two years and in swannanoa for a year and a half!!! awesome awesome place!!! gotta love those mountains... i have many friends there and will probably be at bel sher this summer... some of my friends play in it... warren haynes son joey and his nephew timmy are super musicaly tallented so do look for them being downtown with your freezy stand... i will definately look for you... i haven't written anything on the loopy line (since take me off your list) but have been listening for about 6 months... cant acid take away layers as you experiment??? ive got the acid.00nothin and its all of your faults!!! you avid loopers!!! well no further ado... hope to see you soon jan and send me links to everyones loops everybody... peace seeya later Dirk Natdirk@hotmail.com msn messerupper ect... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 23:21:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA11884; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:19:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:19:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Re: asheville looper Whazzup To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:23:19 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <4Ey1q.A.k5C.sKvH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com jan i will be performing live lloping and the like at vincent's ear on the 6th of july c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 23:28:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12283; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:25:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:25:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:29:04 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <008901c0eed6$75f55bc0$f99a46cf@txucom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeh i already have a 1402 but i have all my auxs and 3/4s in use already i may go with the behringer just becuase it was cheap i was looking for a cheap solution to stereo splitting thanks c On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:17:22 -0700 "T. Peirce Baker" wrote: > get a stereo direct box for crying out loud! or a $99.00 > Behringer 8 channel > mixer, its quiet and will give many options.. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Leas" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! > > > > > > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > > > > purchase_i > > > > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 > and > > > > run > > > > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions > would be > > > > great! > > > > Hi Chris! > > > > I've been waiting for some sp808 owners to > pipe-up...but they seem quiet > > now. Cm'on you guys! > > > > In the meantime, I can try to help. I don't know the > sp808 but why can't > > you just use a splitter from Radio Shack? Is it an > active (line-level) > > output? 1/4" tip/ring/sleeve connector? More info, > please. > > > > Dennis Leas > > ------------------- > > dennis@mdbs.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 01:21:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA16615; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:19:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:19:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C9A@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:19:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey have you used your inserts on the 1402,i didn't figure that out till I had the thig for over a year....weak...you just need the right cable (y cable) Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher White [mailto:magicicada@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:29 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! yeh i already have a 1402 but i have all my auxs and 3/4s in use already From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 01:24:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA17004; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:22:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:22:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C9B@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Warning - Ends Here ! Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:21:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com man I wouldn't be on this list if it wasnt for all the reasons below 8-) ehe lol etc...loop... and what about all thsoe guys talking about electrix and their super blow out liquidation deal... Denis -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Warning - Ends Here ! Amen, it's worst than that guy who keeps including his SampleStation Thread replies with Looper Delight, or that guy who keeps praising ACID 3.0, like it was some sort of deity, or the guy who keeps trying to school want-a-be Dj/Producers, or... hey that's me..... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 04:50:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23307; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 04:44:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 04:44:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607104830.00a98308@mail.mercurionet.com> X-Sender: masaccio@masaccio.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:48:51 +0200 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Leonardo Piras Subject: Electrix Repeater website update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Have you read the last update on the Electrix website ? They say they're almost ready.... So what will be the final shipping date? November for real.. or can we hope for a summer release? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 07:27:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA28199; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:23:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:23:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010607052703.007e9e70@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 05:27:03 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: -Hopefully, this will be the last one... -was- Re: Warning! - OT In-Reply-To: <000201c0eef5$58979060$03ac6fd4@dolly> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com First lemme' just apologize for contributing any more to this thread. Secondly, There's a difference, "SHE" knows you, I don't. Now, having said that, thanks alot for the apology, I appreciate it. If you'd like to reply to this, please feel free to e-mail me privately, K?, -and thanks again... Have a great day! Smiles, Goddess At 06:33 PM 6/6/01 +0100, you wrote: >I sent it to a girl friend of mine and SHE thought it was funny. >But I don't want to make a big thing of it -sorry if I offended anyone. > >Gareth > >lidoffadaffodil > >> c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, much less >> without an OT in the topic header. >> >> passing on stupid jokes about disfunctional marraiges doesn't >> encourage any change...hey, let's all go watch 'married with >> children'! let's reinforce outdated, useless and harmful social >> mores! >> >> and if you're old school, i'm sure we can dig up some 'all in the family'. >> >> 2cents, >> >> rich >> >> >ah the truth hurts don't it?? >> > >> >db >> > >> >>From: Goddess >> > >> >>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >>Goddess >> >> >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EF6A.3AD3D28A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 12:35:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05697; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:32:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:32:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:29:49 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Electrix Repeater website update In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607104830.00a98308@mail.mercurionet.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220190967==_ma============" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607104830.00a98308@mail.mercurionet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220190967==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 10:48 AM +0200 6/7/01, Leonardo Piras wrote: >Have you read the last update on the Electrix website ? They say >they're almost ready.... >So what will be the final shipping date? November for real.. or can >we hope for a summer release? The June 5 update states: "Repeater is still on schedule to start shipping this month." This is what I was told by a member of the Repeater development team, and it is what dealers have been saying. I think you should believe it. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1220190967==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Electrix Repeater website update
At 10:48 AM +0200 6/7/01, Leonardo Piras wrote:
Have you read the last update on the Electrix website ? They say they're almost ready....
So what will be the final shipping date? November for real.. or can we hope for a summer release?

The June 5 update states:

"Repeater is still on schedule to start shipping this month."

This is what I was told by a member of the Repeater development team, and it is what dealers have been saying. I think you should believe it.
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--============_-1220190967==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 13:18:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07799; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:14:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:14:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:12:30 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 17:12:30.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[08F83430:01C0EF75] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > I GIVE A FUCK TO YOUR PC VIRUS . > > DONT NO WHY ??????? > > BECAUSE I THINK & USE A MAC > > THE FUCK YOU CREW > > -- > > with best regards . > >Ah, sarcasm. How does one "think a Mac"? > By thinking different? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 14:06:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10037; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:02:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:02:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Re: Warning! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:06:26 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com stop From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 14:38:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10875; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:30:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:30:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: WKlein8318@aol.com Message-ID: <60.f6b028e.285121c0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:28:16 EDT Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hallo, If you're interested in the Thunder I've got a lightning what is sadly languishing in a dusty corner of my studio. e-mail me for more info if you'd like it! Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 15:36:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13550; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:31:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:31:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1FD66A.62E0C21F@mail.verizon.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:30:50 -0400 From: Mike Hunter Reply-To: vze298yr@verizon.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hey John at ALTO Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0UtmK.A.RTD.PZ9H7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey John!

My local music store called Electrix and they gave the info on the box side and got
the difference in the wholesale cost returned to them!!!!

MH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 16:32:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16164; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106072028.QAA16129@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 22:29:19 +0200 Subject: AABA on JamMan From: "Frank Bilsen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi to all! I am trying to play an AABA scheme with my JamMan (32 sec.), but I am not succesful so far. I would like to record loop 1 (the first A) as follows: 4 bars in tempo 60 with 16 midi quarter notes in punch in loop mode, actually resulting in a 8 bars loop in tempo 120 with 32 quarter notes). Then loop 1 should be repeated (no layering, just playing) to form the second A. After that loop 2 should be recorded to form the B. Finally our first loop 1 comes back to form the third A. So this would buid an AABA scheme, which I would like to repeat a couple of times, each time adding new sounds to the first A and the B. I've tried to do this with the sequencer being the master and the Jamman as a slave. I am programming in Logic on my Mac.I would like to copy the final sequence in Logic to a stand alone sequencer (Yamaha QY70) which I could take with me on stage to drive the JamMan. I would like to use a headphone with a clicktrack for the first 2 or 3 choruses. I have found out that after recording the B (loop 2), there is no way of cuing the JamMan in order to continue playing loop 1 straight away. It wants to play loop 2 first. Well Okay....in that case I've decided to first get both loops in the Jamman by lowering the input knob to zero and start the sequencer. I programmed a Tap on the first beat of bar1 and it records loop 1 (4 bars, tempo 60), it plays loop1 and then goes into recording loop 2 with the same lenght. I let play loop 2 (which is silent, since the input knob is on zero) and raise the input knob to a good level. I cue loop 1 and start playing my instrument and recording my first A. It then starts playing the second A, I cue loop2 and sometimes it goes into record mode and sometimes not. Then things are getting messy and out of sync. I've tried dozens of diffent Tap commands but the JamMan just does what it likes. MY JAMMAN-SLAVE QUESTIONS: *is there someone who has already made a midi-file which can do an AABA scheme? *Could I record a click and then shift it forward to sound in sync. Will there be any cutoffs on my recordings? So, not being succesful I want to try and use the JamMan as the master controlling the sequencer. Before I spend another 20 hours on finding out how to do this, could someone tell me the secret??? Thanks for reading all this. Help greatly appreciated! Frank Bilsen -- The Music Lab Frank Bilsen Netherlands tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 fax: 0299-404834 e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl site: http://welcome.to/themusiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:14:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18223; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:12:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:12:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <65.157d54ec.285147dc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:10:52 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix Repeater website update To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rz, >I think you should believe it. i do. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:44:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19192; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:42:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:42:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRK+WYLkmynTKsWWzTRh6sjOOzk8gIUS9W01vRMjPD4mJtSOKyL162jBwg= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:42:02 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller Message-ID: <26957-3B1FF52A-2793@storefull-617.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: WKlein8318@aol.com's message of Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:28:16 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear BIll, Could you give a brief explanation of the "lightning" and let us know how it works. Why is it collecting dust ? Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:50:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19565; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:47:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:47:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607144437.021dd460@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:45:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller In-Reply-To: <26957-3B1FF52A-2793@storefull-617.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com James Hines (02:42 PM 06/07/01) wrote: >Could you give a brief explanation of the "lightning" and let us >know how it works. Why is it collecting dust ? You can learn all about all sorts of fun Don Buchla creations from: http://www.buchla.com In specific: http://www.buchla.com/lightning/index.html Have fun! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:54:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19949; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:52:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:52:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607145105.00a58b20@mail.midiwall.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:51:06 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <6wVRxD.A.d3E.7d_H7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com James Hines (02:42 PM 06/07/01) wrote: >Could you give a brief explanation of the "lightning" and let us >know how it works. Why is it collecting dust ? You can learn all about all sorts of fun Don Buchla creations from: http://www.buchla.com In specific: http://www.buchla.com/lightning/index.html Have fun! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:59:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20427; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:56:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:56:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRRswZ8sIdeIu2tZXNBuCx66bhuYwIUZC7Ao49WsYyMayvx0adbGckTHAc= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:55:35 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller Message-ID: <26960-3B1FF857-1381@storefull-617.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Mark Pulver 's message of Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:51:06 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <6wWN3.A.8-E.bh_H7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Mark, Thanks for the reply. James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 19:33:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24322; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:29:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:29:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Damon Langlois (Electrix)" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey loopers, Electrix is not going out of business. We were put in a tight spot by slow sales, too much inventory and the delay of Repeater. What can I say, we needed to turn the inventory into cash. Our entire US inventory of FilterFactory, WarpFactory, Mo-FX, FilterQueen and EQKillers was sold to Guitar Center and Musicians Friend for well below cost. Unfortunately these products will not go into production again but in the mean time it's an amazing deal for you. Take advantage of it while you can. Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon... Respect, Damon Langlois Creative Director Electrix Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 http://www.electrixpro.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 19:43:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24648; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:41:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:41:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:40:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 23:40:35.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F8E2460:01C0EFAB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks Damon! Best of luck. Hope all works out for the best. Pete. >From: "Damon Langlois (Electrix)" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: Electrix >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:03 -0700 > >Hey loopers, >Electrix is not going out of business. >We were put in a tight spot by slow sales, too much inventory and the delay >of Repeater. What can I say, we needed to turn the inventory into cash. Our >entire US inventory of FilterFactory, WarpFactory, Mo-FX, FilterQueen and >EQKillers was sold to Guitar Center and Musicians Friend for well below >cost. Unfortunately these products will not go into production again but in >the mean time it's an amazing deal for you. Take advantage of it while you >can. >Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with >Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon... > >Respect, > >Damon Langlois >Creative Director >Electrix >Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 >http://www.electrixpro.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 19:59:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25176; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:57:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:57:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Newbie multiple loop playing question.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:53:48 -0600 Message-ID: <7EA28D95D44E3C4797E6B39AC751E92803DE2E@hit01.handelit.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie multiple loop playing question.... Thread-Index: AcDvqykL988aw0I9TsGZhD0txrVC+AAAObqg From: "Jess M. Askey" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id TAA25134 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Im a guitar player and Im thinking of buying my first looping device after listening to Phish for a bit. I have looked at the specs, reviews and harmony central comments for the DL-4, Boomerang, the Echoplex and the forthcoming Repeater. One thing that I really thought I heard in a Trey solo was two separate loops playing at once. They were not overdubs as they had a different loop time it seemed. Now, everything I seem to read is that Trey used a Boomerang but maybe is now using the Echoplex. >From what I read in the manuals, nothing can play multiple loops at the same time except for the Echoplex? Im not sure if Im confused or maybe I mis-heard the recording? Can anyone fill me in on the details. I would be bummed if I bought something and then was let down.. :-( Im pretty rural so I can't drive down to a local store and try one out either. :-( :-( thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 20:38:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27305; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:36:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:36:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010607203453.007cd240@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:34:53 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Newbie multiple loop playing question.... In-Reply-To: <7EA28D95D44E3C4797E6B39AC751E92803DE2E@hit01.handelit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm not sure if this is still the case, but Trey was using TWO Boomerangs, or possibly three. (I'm positive it was at least two, but at the moment I can't find the magazine that had the layout of his stage setup...) Multiple loops are easy with multiple loopers! -t At 05:53 PM 6/7/01 -0600, Jess wrote: >One thing that I really thought I heard in a >Trey solo was two separate loops playing at once. They were not overdubs >as they had a different loop time it seemed. Now, everything I seem to >read is that Trey used a Boomerang but maybe is now using the Echoplex. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 23:57:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01145; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:54:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:54:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <66.ff66bb8.2851a61e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:53:02 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_66.ff66bb8.2851a61e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_66.ff66bb8.2851a61e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/01 7:29:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Damon@Electrixpro.com writes: > Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with > Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon... > oh you tease!.....michael --part1_66.ff66bb8.2851a61e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/01 7:29:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Damon@Electrixpro.com writes:


Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with
Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon...


oh you tease!.....michael
--part1_66.ff66bb8.2851a61e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 00:02:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02698; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:59:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:59:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c0efcf$91f20540$809a8bac@0017470167> From: "Q" To: References: <66.ff66bb8.2851a61e@aol.com> Subject: buying Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:00:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0EFA5.A85BBA80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0EFA5.A85BBA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, I was just wondering where some good places would be to get myself = an oberheim digital echoplex pro...I don't know where to even begin to = search! Any help would be needed, thanks -Andy ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0EFA5.A85BBA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey, I was just wondering where some = good places=20 would be to get myself an oberheim digital echoplex pro...I don't know = where to=20 even begin to search! Any help would be needed, thanks
 
-Andy
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0EFA5.A85BBA80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 00:07:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03252; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:05:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:05:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B204F5A.6CE4CE3F@minds-eye.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:06:50 -0700 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loop Subject: OT: Digitech 20/20 multi-play delay for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <69plJC.A.ly.z6EI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, For those of you who have any cash left after the Electrix frenzy, I have a Digitech Multi-Play 20/20 2 second delay pedal for sale. This is a great pedal with two foot pedals, one on/off and one for sample and hold. Perhaps best of all, you can change the delay time with the twist of a knob for those great pitch shifting sounds. The pedal also has a chorus/flanger effect that can be used alone or with the delay for some nice strange sounds. This has been a great pedal but I now have too many things on the floor so I'd prefer this pedal find an appreciative home where it will get used. Asking price is $50 US plus shipping for a nice 2 second looper. Thanks Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 00:30:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03954; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:29:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:29:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010608042856.54859.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: buying To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000b01c0efcf$91f20540$809a8bac@0017470167> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sweetwater Sound carries them.... http://www.sweetwater.com/store/results.tpl?action=full&cart=9919736615359460&--eqskudatarq=Echoplex&Criteria=Results John --- Q wrote: > hey, I was just wondering where some good places > would be to get myself an oberheim digital echoplex > pro...I don't know where to even begin to search! > Any help would be needed, thanks > > -Andy > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 00:30:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03949; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:28:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:28:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [198.81.17.47] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:27:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 04:27:58.0347 (UTC) FILETIME=[65534DB0:01C0EFD3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

go away with your low energy and bad vibes..... Om and Out

>From: "Peter Underwood"
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>Subject: Re: Warning!
>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:12:30 -0700
>
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 01:57:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06730; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:54:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:54:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CA9@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: buying Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:54:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0EFDF.6BAB5570" Resent-Message-ID: <8w93P.A.8oB.8hGI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EFDF.6BAB5570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" this was posted to the list a few days ago: Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty getting a 'plex in the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top sales guy for Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as Gil, the sales guy in the Simpson's. Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Q [mailto:qslicer@pionet.net] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:01 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: buying hey, I was just wondering where some good places would be to get myself an oberheim digital echoplex pro...I don't know where to even begin to search! Any help would be needed, thanks -Andy ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EFDF.6BAB5570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
this was posted to the list a few days ago:

Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty getting a 'plex in

the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top sales guy for

Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as Gil, the sales

guy in the Simpson's.

 

Denis

Denis Taaffe

denis_aliengr@geocities.com

http://www.dtguitar.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Q [mailto:qslicer@pionet.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:01 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: buying

hey, I was just wondering where some good places would be to get myself an oberheim digital echoplex pro...I don't know where to even begin to search! Any help would be needed, thanks
 
-Andy
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EFDF.6BAB5570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 04:47:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11750; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:43:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:43:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:42:11 EDT Subject: Re: London Jazz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > I have been walking by the occasional poster in London - while continuing to > look for work - and see a number of things advertising "Live Jazz". I feel > like I should find out just WHAT they think of as "Jazz" here -- is it "free > form improvisation"? or more a situation for guitarists like "non-Les Paul > clones need not apply".? > Hi Stephen Most UK jazz fans seem to like it unadventurous, so probably your posters are refering what I would call "pub jazz". ( Les Paul might be a bit too advanced) OR maybe jazz-funk type stuff . "free form improvisation" is more likely to be found at specialist venues. (Jazz Cafe) if your looking for free-form-imp in London then I don't think you'd generally find it under the 'jazz' label. try 'wire' magazine. there's definately an improv scene (including loops), but this is reputedly quite hard to break into if your ideas don't match exactly andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 04:54:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11992; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:51:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:51:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c0eff8$31f48450$51cec22b@cambmaya04> From: "Os" To: References: Subject: Re: London Jazz Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:51:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Most UK jazz fans seem to like it unadventurous, so > probably your posters are refering what I would call "pub jazz". > ( Les Paul might be a bit too advanced) I tend to call it "wanker jazz". Safe jazz-funk to establish a mood of eighties prosperity in a pub/wine-bar. > there's definately an improv scene (including loops), but this > is reputedly quite hard to break into if your ideas don't match > exactly indeed. :( os. os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 09:10:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19275; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:04:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:04:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010608130353.8204.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:03:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Martin Subject: Re: Newbie multiple loop playing question.... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The magazine was a summer 2000 issue of Guitar Player (I'm at work, so I can't look up the exact month). Trey uses a Boomerang and an old Ibanez rackmount delay in his guitar rig, and an additional Boomerang for his synth setup. >I'm not sure if this is still the case, but Trey was >using TWO Boomerangs, >or possibly three. (I'm positive it was at least two, >but at the moment I >can't find the magazine that had the layout of his >stage setup...) >Multiple loops are easy with multiple loopers!-t At 05:53 PM 6/7/01 -0600, Jess wrote: >One thing that I really thought I heard in a >Trey solo was two separate loops playing at once. They were not overdubs >as they had a different loop time it seemed. Now, everything I seem to >read is that Trey used a Boomerang but maybe is now using the Echoplex. ===== And if it's up to us to bring some balance back Let it not be said it's courage that we lack -Gaia Consort, "Cry Freedom" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 10:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21436; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:10:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:10:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRoSJQ/GEpv/zuI9VoKCYufpcZROAIUSvBYl8ReN4+cldDJf+mkgInjd5s= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:10:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP Message-ID: <13118-3B20DCB9-42@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Andy Ewen 's message of Thu, 24 May 2001 03:33:42 -0500 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi andy; i was getting antsy and i just thought ide give a call to see if you have any more of a prospective date on when you might be getting the echoplex units in that will enable you to send one out to me.i know when we last spoke you were waiting and there was a gentleman on line(one of your associates) before me.i dont wnt to be a bother im just excited.Thanks andy,Joe Keller From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:10:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27897; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:06:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:06:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1C4@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: HELP Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:08:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Sweetwater Sound has them in stock. I just purchased last Wednesday. It's an wonderful unit. Weg -----Original Message----- From: ko-jella@webtv.net [mailto:ko-jella@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP hi andy; i was getting antsy and i just thought ide give a call to see if you have any more of a prospective date on when you might be getting the echoplex units in that will enable you to send one out to me.i know when we last spoke you were waiting and there was a gentleman on line(one of your associates) before me.i dont wnt to be a bother im just excited.Thanks andy,Joe Keller From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:13:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28314; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:10:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:10:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PRCamann@aol.com Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:09:51 EDT Subject: Electrix products at Musician's Friend To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: <3uULM.A.H5G.3jPI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Since the availability date of the Warp Factory I have on order at Musician's Friend changed from 6-10 to 7-15, should I take alternate measures to obtain a Warp Factory at blowout (or near blowout) prices, or should I sit tight and wait for the order to come through? I'm in no hurry, I just want to take advantage of any breaks I can. Is Musician's Friend in fact going to receive more stock, or is this just another Alesis airSynth blow-smoke-up-the-buyer's-butt ploy on their part? Electrix folks, this one's for you... Paul Camann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:16:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28519; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:15:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:15:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAxwjihJLIvGI9SCCq/SEy5mCh7YoCFQDIau5LIX6xkJ3zBEArdYS4ghXMjQ== From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:14:37 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP Message-ID: <20483-3B20F9ED-605@storefull-241.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Wegmann, Greg" 's message of Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:08:06 -0400 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks alot.ill check them out. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:19:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28886; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:17:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:17:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix products at Musician's Friend Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:16:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 16:16:39.0002 (UTC) FILETIME=[659C5BA0:01C0F036] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you can go to a guitar center (if there's one near you) and have them order the unit from another store that has them in stock (and no shipping fees). This is what I did and I expect to see mine early next week. Also, American Musical Supply listed the Warp Facory for $89 a day or so ago. Might want to check them out as well www.americanmusical.com Kevin >From: PRCamann@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Electrix products at Musician's Friend >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:09:51 EDT > >Since the availability date of the Warp Factory I have on order at >Musician's Friend changed from 6-10 to 7-15, should I take alternate >measures to obtain a Warp Factory at blowout (or near blowout) prices, or >should I sit tight and wait for the order to come through? I'm in no >hurry, I just want to take advantage of any breaks I can. > >Is Musician's Friend in fact going to receive more stock, or is this just >another Alesis airSynth blow-smoke-up-the-buyer's-butt ploy on their part? > >Electrix folks, this one's for you... > >Paul Camann > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:42:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30174; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:39:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:39:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAg/JM+p2lq0jACpuKj9fNUiiHhLICFGhsDnxyLECLCfyQUExdm/2kzwsA From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:39:07 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: buying Message-ID: <4043-3B20FFAB-572@storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Q" 's message of Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:00:33 -0500 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Andy, The most reliable retailer I have found for looping devices is BANANAS AT LARGE. Personally, I have worked with Nils - I am guessing he is still there. There web site has been down for a while - but you might be able to get contact info if you go there. Sorry, I do not have their URL. Otherwise, I know that Sweetwater is carrying the Gibson (formerly "Oberheim") Echoplex. If you call them you might ask for David Klausner. Good Luck, James Hines From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 14:32:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02567; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:29:00 EDT Subject: AKASH - GIG ALERT: SUN, JUNE 10, 8PM+ TONS of MP3's. To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <9b.16376661.2852736c@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey GUys, We have almost for the most part (except - minus 3 tracks), added the entire BODY WORSHIP Album online which can be accessed at/clicked to/thru our main website: www.akashmusic.com The Tracks "Do it on TV", "Golden Rainbows", "Pillow Talk", "Court Marshall" and "Forward March 2 Starlust Moistened, Part VII", all feature 2 Line 6 DL4's & 2 GT-3's using delay-decay based loops driven by 2 GR-30's and a jv1010 and an asr10, plus a slew of other samples from individual musicians of AKASH (SP202 is used a lot too)...its all rehashed and spun into a mix with other samples taken from other various sources...SO, GO & CK IT ALL OUT :) AKASH is also looking at starting/developing/nurturing a monthly "Perv-Performance Series", at The Shubin Theatre which features not only AKASH but other folks within and from our Loopey-Turntablist-Performing-Travelling-Community which is most likely a lot of folks present here on the LD list. (The Shubin is a very small but intimate venue which holds approx 50 persons; the acoustics are incredible and the venue has a very positive vibe but the owner lives above it; volume can't get too outta hand, we keep our volume levels very, very subdued and have never had a problem). But Please do E-Mail us if you are local and or going to be passing thru Philly in Mid-Late August 2001. & hopefully we can share gigs like this vice versa in your town too :) Soooooooo... "GET INTO BODY WORSHIP NOW" www.akashmusic.com (& if u don't already know bout dis here...) AKASH, LIVE @ THE SHUBIN THEATRE! THE SHUBIN IS LOCATED IN DWNTWN PHILLY ON BAINBRIDGE STREET BETWEEN 4th & 5th Streets but closer to 4th ( ZIP CODE is 19147) as The Shubin Theatre is located one block behind South Street. DATES: TIMES: ETC... SUNDAY, JUNE 10th, Doors Open @ 7PM, & DIG IT - AKASH STARTS @ 8PM SHARP! ADMISSION for AKASH is $5 bucks (cheap!) *AFTER PARTY @ FLUID WITH PSYDDE DELICIOUS' "FAST CHEAP AND OUT OF CONTROL" * GET $1.00 off $3.00 admission to FAST CHEAP AND OUT OF CONTROL www.fastcheapparty.com *Offer valid only if you arrive at FLUID before 11PM with an Invite from AKASH in hand. Also, the 1st. Ten People to show up @ The Shubin Theatre, will get a FREE copy of AKASH's DEBUT ALBUM "BODY WORSHIP" WE HOPE TO SEE ALL OF Y'ALL WHO CAN MAKE IT AT OUR SHOW :) "Remember To Always Kill Your Expectations" www.akashmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 14:32:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02560; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006d01c0f049$5a3d0080$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: Electrix products at Musician's Friend Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:32:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I just got off the phone with them, and the impression I got was that if you placed your order during the time when the backorder date was 6-10-01, then you were going to get what you ordered, and if you ordered after the date changed, you probably have to wait because the 6-10 batch was sold out. Please though, if you've ordered with Musician's Friend, call and check it out and let us know what they said to you. I've gotten entirely different answers from different customer service calls before to just about any place, so to be scientific about this I think it's important that as many of us say what we heard as possible. The news does sound good for those of us who ordered before the backorder date changed, and I wish the best of luck to us all in any case. also, for those curious, this is what the site says now: eq killer delayed until 6-10 filter factory delayed until 7-15 mo-fx delayed until 8-15 warp factory delayed until 7-15 Jon, who is very anxious to know whether he's missed his only shot at getting these magic boxes or not > Since the availability date of the Warp Factory I have on order at Musician's Friend changed from 6-10 to 7-15, should I take alternate measures to obtain a Warp Factory at blowout (or near blowout) prices, or should I sit tight and wait for the order to come through? I'm in no hurry, I just want to take advantage of any breaks I can. > > Is Musician's Friend in fact going to receive more stock, or is this just another Alesis airSynth blow-smoke-up-the-buyer's-butt ploy on their part? > > Electrix folks, this one's for you... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 16:26:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07020; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:22:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:22:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:21:35 -0500 Subject: Pro tools free From: Mike Feeney To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello all, I've installed PTF on my mac at work, as I work in marketing and we will be doing some editing of radio commercials, etc. I'm having a hard time getting started with the software... I'm just not familiar with it. I've used other recording apps for the PC. Anyone know of somewhere (web site, etc.) that has some intro to Pro Tools? Thanks... Mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 16:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07619; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:44:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:44:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:35:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Pro tools free Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <81tOvB.A.02B.UkTI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I found the PTF pdf manual that comes with it pretty informative, and if i remember correctly, there is a demo session available for download at the website, too. I downloaded it, but never checked it out. also, at the digidesign website: http://www.digidesign.com go to 'support', the go to 'user conference'. There seem to be some really helpful folks there. good luck. rich > Hello all, > > I've installed PTF on my mac at work, as I work in marketing and we will >be doing some editing of radio commercials, etc. I'm having a hard time >getting started with the software... I'm just not familiar with it. I've >used other recording apps for the PC. Anyone know of somewhere (web site, >etc.) that has some intro to Pro Tools? Thanks... > > Mike > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:14:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09234; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010608122745.00997db0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:32:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Re: buying In-Reply-To: <4043-3B20FFAB-572@storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <"Q" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 09:39 AM 6/8/01 , you wrote: >Dear Andy, > The most reliable retailer I have found for looping devices is >BANANAS AT LARGE. Personally, I have worked with Nils - I am guessing he >is still there. I just bought one there. Don't know about Nils, but Rik Elswit is a rather loopy fellow that could take care of you (thought he said he was on this list). - Tom Heasley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:14:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09233; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010608123338.009a0a40@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:35:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Fwd: CD Release Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Hi all, > >Pardon me if this appears twice on the list - won't bore you with the >details. I am a composer/performer who processes and loops the tuba (and >didjeridu, conch and voice). Shortly after buying a DL4 last year, I >began doing solo concerts of my own music. I also use a Lexicon MPX1, a >t.c. D-TWO, and I just bought an EDP, all of which goes through my >p.a./1202VLZ/AMT clip-on mic. I went into Robert Rich's Soundscape Studio >earlier this year and recorded my first solo cd, 'Where the Earth Meets >the Sky', (engineered and mastered by R. Rich) which was just released by >Hypnos Recordings (www.hypnos.com). > >For anyone in the bay area, I have two live shows coming up: > >Saturday, June 9, 2001 >8:15, 9:15, 10:15 >Jazz at the Aquarium >Monterey Bay Aquarium >Tickets $50. > >and for FREE: > >Saturday 'afternoon', June 16, 2001 >somewhere in downtown Berkeley >Berkeley Arts Festival Music Circus > >Anyone interested in details could email me off-list. > >I will send a copy of my cd to each of the first two people from this list >to ask for one. > >Best, > >Tom Heasley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:34:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10107; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:29:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:29:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002f01c0f062$636b1fc0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:31:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members running this on a PC with success? Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:34:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10108; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:29:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:29:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B214379.1801A9BD@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:28:26 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: midi to tap? Is there a way to synch a vortex via midi? References: <4043-3B20FFAB-572@storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7iVoeB.A.vdC.HOUI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey gang. A few months ago I purchased a Vortex. I do love it so. During the Electrix blowout, I also got a mo-fx. Much tamer, but the midi synch is VERY convenient. I got to thinking... does anyone know of a device that can take a midi clock and turn it into a momentary switch signal? Doesn't seem like it would be too hard. It sure would make my day. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:38:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10321; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:33:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:33:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004b01c0f062$ff2749c0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <4043-3B20FFAB-572@storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <3B214379.1801A9BD@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: midi to tap? Is there a way to synch a vortex via midi? Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:35:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Search the archives- this sounds like a topic that may have been discussed previously- I would also be interested as a Vortex and future MoFx owner... Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: midi to tap? Is there a way to synch a vortex via midi? > > Hey gang. > > A few months ago I purchased a Vortex. I do love it so. During the > Electrix blowout, I also got a mo-fx. Much tamer, but the midi synch is > VERY convenient. I got to thinking... does anyone know of a device that > can take a midi clock and turn it into a momentary switch signal? Doesn't > seem like it would be too hard. It sure would make my day. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:48:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10931; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:46:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:46:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0f064$4397edc0$2101a8c0@urso> From: "Daniel Pezzotti" To: References: <002f01c0f062$636b1fc0$7bb387d8@cliff> Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:44:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <2gDbb.A.mqC.6dUI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yes.....no problem here on a PC...running and running......... Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "MediaOne" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:31 PM Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members running this on a PC with success? Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:55:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11155; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:54:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:54:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:53:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Pro tools free From: Mike Feeney To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , Daniel Pezzotti , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000f01c0f064$4397edc0$2101a8c0@urso> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_jb22C.A.ytC.plUI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It runs fine on my PC also, but again, I haven't figured out how to use it just yet... ;) I'll dig up the pdf manual soon and read up. Thanks for that tip, rich.... thanks eberbody. mike on 6/8/01 4.44 PM, Daniel Pezzotti at daniel.pezzotti@span.ch wrote: > yes.....no problem here on a PC...running and running......... > > Daniel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MediaOne" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:31 PM > Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free > > > I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members > running this on a PC with success? Cliff > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 18:10:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12702; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:05:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:05:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 00:02:55 +0200 Subject: Re: Electrix From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <158UNI-0fRz5UC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id SAA12666 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmm...? The whole electrix topics/rumours of last time seems to be an idiosyncratic idom. Most comments seems to yell,that Electrix is knocked out of buisiness. Older devices are blown out,so that customers must have the suspicon,that Electrix is on the path of agony. I don´t know,how strong the buisiness resources are for Electrix. Electrix offers products,wich are quiet amazing,but other producers have also nice machines. The market for such products is very small,so Electrix is binded at the marketrules,like every other company also. Electrix does not manufacture Mass Products.Especialy nowadays,where new devices and technology rain down to us. It makes then no sense,to fill up the stores with devices,wich will be tomorrow out.So the seemingly "Blow out" is only a regulation of the market. To develop such fine devices,it needs a lot of blood,sweat and tears and a time.The selling process is very short time related things.So no need to make a big stock of this devices. Remember the ATARI history..... For a small company-like Electrix(traced to relation to the Gibson BigBrother)- it needs such a strategy.Also the blow out of older products... electrix has decided to ship the repeater then,when it works acceptable for the customer. They will not release a product,where the customer is a Beta-Tester and Updates will follow sequently by the responses of the customers. So please be patient,give Electrix time to offer an astounding product.Patience is one mark,wich I miss so much in this topic. To burry sonething,before it had seen the light,makes no sense. Marty ---------- >Von: "Pete Mundt" >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: RE: Electrix >Datum: Fre, 8. Jun 2001 1:40 Uhr > >Thanks Damon! Best of luck. Hope all works out for the best. >Pete. > > >>From: "Damon Langlois (Electrix)" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Subject: RE: Electrix >>Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:03 -0700 >> >>Hey loopers, >>Electrix is not going out of business. >>We were put in a tight spot by slow sales, too much inventory and the delay >>of Repeater. What can I say, we needed to turn the inventory into cash. Our >>entire US inventory of FilterFactory, WarpFactory, Mo-FX, FilterQueen and >>EQKillers was sold to Guitar Center and Musicians Friend for well below >>cost. Unfortunately these products will not go into production again but in >>the mean time it's an amazing deal for you. Take advantage of it while you >>can. >>Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with >>Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon... >> >>Respect, >> >>Damon Langlois >>Creative Director >>Electrix >>Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 >>http://www.electrixpro.com >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 18:26:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13128; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:22:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:22:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B21417E.12F21582@sigecom.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:19:59 -0400 From: Scott Winzinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Alto Music phone number needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I lost the phone number for Alto music. Can anyone mail it to me? Zing@sigecom.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 18:59:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13759; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:47:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:47:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007e01c0f06d$075534e0$7dde6420@vaio> Reply-To: "Kevin Goldsmith" From: "Kevin Goldsmith" To: References: <002f01c0f062$636b1fc0$7bb387d8@cliff> Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:47:40 -0700 Organization: Unit Circle Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 22:45:01.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[A731B200:01C0F06C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been running it ok on my PC, but it has a tendency to start stuttering audio after a while of using it forcing me to close and re-open it... Kevin Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "MediaOne" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free > I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members > running this on a PC with success? Cliff > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 18:59:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14111; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:53:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:53:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <78.15ff532f.2852b136@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:52:38 EDT Subject: Re: buying To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_78.15ff532f.2852b136_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_78.15ff532f.2852b136_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check Alto Music 845 692 6922-Good luck --part1_78.15ff532f.2852b136_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check Alto Music 845 692 6922-Good luck --part1_78.15ff532f.2852b136_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 19:01:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13930; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:49:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:49:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <3e.cd7791e.2852b04c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:48:44 EDT Subject: Re: Alto Music phone number needed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3e.cd7791e.2852b04c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_3e.cd7791e.2852b04c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 845 692 6922 --part1_3e.cd7791e.2852b04c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 845 692 6922 --part1_3e.cd7791e.2852b04c_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 19:46:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16233; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:45:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:45:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:44:08 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a5.16d08f60.2852bd48_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_a5.16d08f60.2852bd48_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway. I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion about the use of this complex unit. Many people were waiting for the EDP's, when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting to this board lately. Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life using the EDP. True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. saving loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro. Regards, Paul --part1_a5.16d08f60.2852bd48_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway.
I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion
about the use of this complex unit. Many people were waiting for the EDP's,
when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace
Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on
various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting
to this board lately.

Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life using
the EDP.

True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. saving
loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best
currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro.

Regards, Paul
--part1_a5.16d08f60.2852bd48_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 19:52:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16354; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:48:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:48:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:46:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 23:46:44.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[46022740:01C0F075] Resent-Message-ID: <7Fb18D.A.T_D.DQWI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anybody know about the Alesis AirFX? I'm looking at it in a guitar center advertisement. All it says is that it has "tripped out, mind bending effects", but it could be a useful little box. Does anybody have any experience with this unit? Not that I'm going to go to guitar center, but if it's nice, I might get it elsewhere. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 20:09:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18028; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:07:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:07:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQhMiQ/h1hSv3a7Q8gdty6b4AYqLgIUWBUdVkxaA39d1t5O3L54/XyUauo= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:07:12 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix? PaulPokr@aol Message-ID: <25072-3B2168B0-693@storefull-613.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: PaulPokr@aol.com's message of Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:44:08 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Paul, I thing I understand the source of your confusion here. You seem to be labouring under the illusion that the purpose of acquiring new gear is to USE it after you have bought it. Were you a true gear junkie, you would realize that the point of acquiring new gear is NOT to use it - butrather to determine its limitations so that you can write critiques of it and THEN demand new gear without those limitations. Of course, if and when the new piece of gear does become available - the cycle starts all over again. It is such fun ! Unfortunately, a few naive people (like your self, perhaps ?) actually devote themselves to learning the intricacies of the gear they have and actually begin to enjoy making music with it. But what can we do with them ???? I hope this will alleviate your concerns. Sincerely, James Hines (recovering gear junkie) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 20:20:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18422; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:17:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:17:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:16:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, matt davignon wrote: > Does anybody know about the Alesis AirFX? I'm looking at it in a guitar > center advertisement. All it says is that it has "tripped out, mind bending > effects", but it could be a useful little box. Does anybody have any > experience with this unit? I'd forgotten I wrote a user review of this for harmony central until I went skimming their user review section for the AirFX, found one I agreed with and recognized my name at the bottom of that one. :) http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Alesis/airFX-01.html -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 20:20:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18531; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:19:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:19:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010608171551.023a86f0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:15:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com matt davignon (04:46 PM 06/08/01) wrote: >Does anybody know about the Alesis AirFX? I'm looking at it in a >guitar center advertisement. All it says is that it has "tripped out, >mind bending effects", but it could be a useful little box. Does >anybody have any experience with this unit? The Alesis website has a lot of info along with the manual. http://www.alesis.com/products/airfx/index.html In short, the box is an effects processor where the params of the various effects are controlled by the proximity of your hand/guitar neck/magic wand to the device. This is handled through an infra-red detector and responds on 3 axis'. Refer to the Program Chart on the page above to get an idea of what params are controllable on what effects. It's a preset unit (no user memories) with RCA IN/OUT jacks and no MIDI. The sound is good, the effects are fun, the unit responds well, and it's a neat addition to have around. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 20:20:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18529; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:18:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:18:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:17:28 EDT Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Alto Music has them for $149.99-Tell them its for the looper group-Speak to Jen-845 692 6922 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:03:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20532; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:00:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:00:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KILLINFO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:00:07 EDT Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 6/8/01 4:47:42 PM, mattdavignon@hotmail.com writes: >Does anybody have any experience with this unit? A little. I played with it at MF when the prototype came in. It's not as expressive as a theramin but it does have some interesting sounds (a la some of the weirder FX in Radiohead's "Kid A" etc). The musician's friend website has some sound samples up that don't quite do it justice. I think it'd be pretty fun for the occassional dash of sonic mayhem but it's a little harder to control than one might expect (IMOHO). With the Chapter 11 situation at Alesis one wonders if any more of them will ever see the light of day. TK From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:05:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20764; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:04:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:04:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KILLINFO@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.15f177c1.2852cfef@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:03:43 EDT Subject: Sorry ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 6/8/01 4:47:42 PM, mattdavignon@hotmail.com writes: >Does anybody know about the Alexis AirFX? Oops. I thought it said AirSynth. Pardon these 48 year old eyes and my very public senior moment. Ignore the previous post. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:06:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20930; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:05:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:05:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:04:41 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix? PaulPokr@aol To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e1.15d2ccfb.2852d029_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e1.15d2ccfb.2852d029_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Me not a gear junkie? Not so. Nothing makes me so happy as seeing the UPS man driving down the street. I buy hardware/software items and then sell them continuously on eBay. In fact, I bought a Boomerang and DL-4 after I already had an EDP. After I had the 'Rang for a while. I said, "what the hell am I going to do with this?" and sold it on eBay. Didn't seem much point in keeping it around after using it and comparing it to the EDP (with all due respect to the Boomerang). Never even used the DL-4 for looping, btw. Regards, Paul --part1_e1.15d2ccfb.2852d029_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Me not a gear junkie? Not so. Nothing makes me so happy as seeing the UPS man
driving down the street. I buy hardware/software items and then sell them
continuously on eBay. In fact, I bought a Boomerang and DL-4 after I already
had an EDP. After I had the 'Rang for a while. I said, "what the hell am I
going to do with this?" and sold it on eBay. Didn't seem much point in
keeping it around after using it and comparing it to the EDP (with all due
respect to the Boomerang). Never even used the DL-4 for looping, btw.

Regards, Paul
--part1_e1.15d2ccfb.2852d029_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:07:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21167; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:06:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:06:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Headybeats@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:05:44 EDT Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 122 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Unsubscribe me!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:12:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21508; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:11:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:11:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:10:37 EDT Subject: What the heck is Behringer doing? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f7.b19115c.2852d18d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_f7.b19115c.2852d18d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, lads: I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? Regards, Paul --part1_f7.b19115c.2852d18d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, lads:

I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist!
Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers,
compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their
gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid?

I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as
sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist
me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently).

This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment?
How can they possibly manufacture all those different products?

Regards, Paul
--part1_f7.b19115c.2852d18d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:18:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21822; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:16:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:16:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:14:55 EDT Subject: Re: Pro tools free To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c0.157d0779.2852d28f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_c0.157d0779.2852d28f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good luck! I had a Digi001/ProTools rig for a while (I recently sold it). There's the hardcopy manual that comes with ProTools that's pretty good but I never succeeded in finding anything else (and I did a lot of searching on the 'Net). DigiDesign really has their information sewed up tight. I guess they want the education bucks (like a lot of companies). Regards, Paul --part1_c0.157d0779.2852d28f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good luck! I had a Digi001/ProTools rig for a while (I recently sold it).
There's the hardcopy manual that comes with ProTools that's pretty good but I
never succeeded in finding anything else (and I did a lot of searching on the
'Net). DigiDesign really has their information sewed up tight. I guess they
want the education bucks (like a lot of companies).

Regards, Paul
--part1_c0.157d0779.2852d28f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:20:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22075; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:18:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:18:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001501c0f093$9a0a5100$0300a8c0@txucom.net> Reply-To: "Tom Peirce Baker" From: "Tom Peirce Baker" To: References: Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:23:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F058.ED3F22A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F058.ED3F22A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Everything I have ever used by Behringer has been very solid. I don,t = know why they are priced the way they are, but I do have a theory as to = why on some of their digital based stuff. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: PaulPokr@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:10 PM Subject: What the heck is Behringer doing? Hey, lads:=20 I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. = Kee-rist!=20 Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, = speakers,=20 compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of = their=20 gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff = solid?=20 I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for = use as=20 sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, = assist=20 me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently).=20 This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their = equipment?=20 How can they possibly manufacture all those different products?=20 Regards, Paul=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F058.ED3F22A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Everything I have ever used by = Behringer has been=20 very solid. I don,t know why they are priced the way they are, but I do = have a=20 theory as to why on some of their digital based stuff.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 PaulPokr@aol.com=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 = 6:10 PM
Subject: What the heck is = Behringer=20 doing?

Hey, lads: =

I've=20 been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist!=20
Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, = speakers,=20
compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot = of their=20
gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff = solid?=20

I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller = mixers for=20 use as
sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to,=20 hopefully, assist
me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer = Plus=20 recently).

This company seems like they're on the roll. But = how good=20 is their equipment?
How can they possibly manufacture all those = different=20 products?

Regards, Paul
=
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F058.ED3F22A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22354; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:22:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:22:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:21:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220072796==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: <4NYXh.A.GdF.roXI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220072796==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: PaulPokr@aol.com >I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! >Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, >compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their >gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? > >I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as >sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist >me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). > >This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? >How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. so I have been told. some of their products do look feature-similar to other offerings from companies like, say, Mackie. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. --============_-1220072796==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" From: PaulPokr@aol.com ArialI've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? Arial the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. so I have been told. some of their products do look feature-similar to other offerings from companies like, say, Mackie. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess <...... .....programmer's documentation <.................. --============_-1220072796==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:29:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22790; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:27:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:27:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <018f01c0f083$be3fad00$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:30:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well, their official answer is "you make it possible. Large numbers of satisfied customers lead to large production quantities. Large production quantities lead to favorable purchasing conditions for components. And it's only fair that we pass these savings on to you. After all, we know that your success is our success." my understanding is that it's some kind of distribution issue, but i can't remember anything else about it. i know a few quite satisfied owners of Behringer equipment though, and sometimes wish i'd known about the prices on their 20 channel mixers before i plunked down the cash for my mackie 12/16 channel. the more i research the differences the less progress i make. just ask around as many lists as you can, i guess. the pricing could be temporary though, so if you can, take advantage. their glitch is your gain. Jon > Hey, lads: > > I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! > Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, > compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their > gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? > > I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as > sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist > me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). > > This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? > How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? > > Regards, Paul > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:42:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA23281; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:41:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:41:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B217E16.2F20A8E5@cloud9.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:38:30 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #284 References: <200106090120.VAA22144@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I don't know about their other gear, but they make a *fabulous* 1/4" patchbay. Sixty-some-odd dollars and worth every penny! Elby Hey, lads: I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 22:35:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24983; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:33:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:33:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:34:17 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220068415==_ma============" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220068415==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: PaulPokr@aol.com >I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! >Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, >compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote: >the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of >other companies >to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by >similar products >from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over this. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1220068415==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: What the heck is Behringer doing?
From: PaulPokr@aol.com
I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist!
Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers,
compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company?

At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote:
the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies
to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products
from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie.

Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over this.
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--============_-1220068415==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 23:46:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27247; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:44:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:44:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.101.230] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pro tools free Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:43:45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 03:43:45.0544 (UTC) FILETIME=[628B7080:01C0F096] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ah, yes Free Pro Tools... Do you have the required Hardware ? It's kinda useless without a Mix Board....

----Original Message Follows----
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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"
Subject: Pro tools free
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:21:35 -0500
Hello all,
I've installed PTF on my mac at work, as I work in marketing and we will
be doing some editing of radio commercials, etc. I'm having a hard time
getting started with the software... I'm just not familiar with it. I've
used other recording apps for the PC. Anyone know of somewhere (web site,
etc.) that has some intro to Pro Tools? Thanks...
Mike
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 23:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27301; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:46:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:46:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.101.230] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:45:29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 03:45:29.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0722650:01C0F096] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I love this company ! Use use the Behringer DX 1000 Pro Mixer in my Dj Setup ! Aand it's da BOMB !

----Original Message Follows----
From: Richard Zvonar
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing?
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:34:17 -0700
From: PaulPokr@aol.com
>I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available.
>Kee-rist!
>Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers,
>speakers,
>compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company?
At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote:
>the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of
>other companies
>to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by
>similar products
>from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie.
Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over this.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 00:09:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA29017; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:08:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:08:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B21A0BB.B5B92B40@altruistmusic.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:06:19 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pro tools free References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Devious D_MasterMixer wrote: > > Ah, yes Free Pro Tools... Do you have the required Hardware ? PT Free runs native on a Mac/PC, and can use built-in i/o for sound. No external hardware required. > It's > kinda useless without a Mix Board.... It also supports full automation for internal mixdown, including "bounce-to-disk" digital mixes. --A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 04:54:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03688; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:52:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:52:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Johnderryneale@aol.com Message-ID: <103.47c812d.28533d78@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:51:04 EDT Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_103.47c812d.28533d78_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: <-oZdbD.A.W5.bOeI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_103.47c812d.28533d78_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe johnderryneale@aol.com thank you --part1_103.47c812d.28533d78_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe   johnderryneale@aol.com                                          
                                         
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--part1_103.47c812d.28533d78_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 04:55:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03998; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:54:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:54:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0f0c1$8f3a7060$271828d5@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: "diatom drone" , References: <018f01c0f083$be3fad00$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:15:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com They tend to copy other company's designs thereby side stepping the R&D time and expense incurred by mackie et al. That's why they can keep their prices low. They've brought out a Pod look/sound alike now - anyone tried it? Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 05:32:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05542; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 05:30:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 05:30:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.68] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: david@awdsf.com Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 Pro Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:29:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 09:29:49.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB098CD0:01C0F0C6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Yes, my good man, there is. > Email or tell your friends about ACID PRO, and
send them to
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677
for the boxed version or
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6676
for downloadable when
they are ready to buy.
>
> On the Sonic Foundry Online Store address form,
your friends will see a
field labeled "Referred By".  Tell them to put
your email address,
ldarthard@ameritech.net, in that field. Now that last part is crucial, since it will enable me to get a free "Loops For Acid" CD.


----Original Message Follows----
From: David Lieberman
Reply-To: David Lieberman
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Acid 3.0 Pro
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:33:30 -0700
Sorry to bother you. I saw your posting about Acid Pro 3.0 for $99.00. Is there a special URL for the offer?
Thanks!
Dave


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 06:02:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA07099; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 06:00:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 06:00:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <102.4578c27.28534d9c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 05:59:56 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I > I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! > Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, > compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their > gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? > yes, very well made, and sound quality closer to pro than budget. ( with a couple of exceptions maybe) Only critism is that some of their newer stuff has a physical (not electrical) hum coming from the transformer. I'd particularly recommend the Modulizer, impressive range of FX including the bizarre (and tweakable), particularly if you have a MIDI foot controller. Has a very nice filter section. ..incredibly cheap andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 07:23:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09055; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 07:20:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 07:20:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c0f0d0$45483dc0$5d5776d5@pandora.be> From: "maninspace" To: References: <102.4578c27.28534d9c@aol.com> Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:38:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've got loads of Behringer stuff : a mixer, monitors, compressors, tube preamp, fx... They do the job very well, and I would never have such a decent home studio without Behringer, because they made it really affordable. I'm now thinking of buying a tube compressor or ultra dyne. Regarding the monitors : I've heard pro's saying they're better (flatter) than the Mackie's . I recently put a song recorded with a B mixer, compressor, tube, reverb, and monitors on my site at http://www.geocities.com/forimul/index.html . No loopy stuff, mind you, only a little loop at my start page. But if you'd like to hear what an amateur can do with that stuff, it's a good example. cheers, Jan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 08:21:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10348; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:19:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:19:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0f0de$6bde2360$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <002f01c0f062$636b1fc0$7bb387d8@cliff> Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:48:44 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Whatcha mean, 'free'? ----- Original Message ----- From: "MediaOne" To: Sent: 08 June 2001 22:31 PM Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free > I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members > running this on a PC with success? Cliff > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 10:48:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13319; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:45:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:45:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <9c.f2a0965.28538fc7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:42:15 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: >To burry sonething,before it had seen the light,makes no sense. unfortunately, that does seem to be the characteristic nature of scurrilous internet/viral gossip, as goes the consumer (ie, *us*)..... blurpst, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 10:57:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13747; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:55:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:55:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.16671567.285392ba@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:54:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 06/08/2001 7:45:36 PM, PaulPokr@aol.com writes: >Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway. for some very good (hopeful) reasons. >I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion >about the use of this complex unit. too busy *using* mine: dude! >Many people were waiting for the EDP's, >when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace >Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on >various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting >to this board lately. well, i love the EDP: love it: love it! gonna use a repeater, too. and a pcm42. >Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life >using the EDP. how? technically, i mean: above, you complained of the lack-of-discussion, re:EDP, soooooo: give us some tips! favorite functiosn, etc..... >True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. >saving loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best >currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro. right!, though 'best' is a funny word, here, as some folks get ***tons*** of functionality from less-featured looping instruments: important to know that, methinks. as a dedicated loop-head, though, i don't view these two instruments: EDP / Repeater: ---which are the only truly *freshly configured* feature-rich high-end realtime loopers, i'd say--- , as being pitted against each other, as their feature-sets are quite different: so far, i know that i gotta use the both of them. (pretty voracious of me, eh?) bleep, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 11:04:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15140; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:03:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:03:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.166bc036.28539478@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:02:16 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3f.166bc036.28539478_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_3f.166bc036.28539478_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? --part1_3f.166bc036.28539478_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? --part1_3f.166bc036.28539478_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 12:16:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17469; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:13:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:13:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010609091413.00b9a9b8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Files: The truth is out there. Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:16:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Subject: Re: Electrix In-Reply-To: <3f.166bc036.28539478@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No - I believe that 'splat' would be a more appropriate nickname. At 08:02 AM 6/9/2001, someone wrote: >Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 15:20:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21435; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:18:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:18:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [198.81.17.174] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 18:39:32 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 18:39:32.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[86754980:01C0F113] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Yea Matt, I have one of them.  It has its own set of synth sounds in one section of setting.  I have it connected to one of the Korg electribes.  You can manipulate the sounds in varius ways using your hand or guitar neck or other body parts.  It's worth the money.  I was waiting for the air synth from alesis but I hear it's on hold for awhile. (I love toys) Come check it out if you're in Santa Cruz.  I've gotta get Miko over here to check out my new setup.  I grabbed some of the electric blowout stuff and need to see where I can fit it in.  good luck Papa Dave

papadave55@hotmail.com

 

>Does anybody know about the Alesis AirFX? I'm looking at it in a

>guitar
>center advertisement. All it says is that it has "tripped out, mind
>bending
>effects", but it could be a useful little box. Does anybody have any
>experience with this unit?
>
>Not that I'm going to go to guitar center, but if it's nice, I might
>get it
>elsewhere.
>
>Matt
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 17:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26031; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:13:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:13:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B221FA0.2B09D565@vtx.ch> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 13:07:44 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Headybeats@cs.com wrote: > > Unsubscribe me!!!!!!! this is OT sorry From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:22:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30237; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:19:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:19:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Musician's Friend Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:17:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 23:17:51.0248 (UTC) FILETIME=[6774D100:01C0F13A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Beware! After seeing that the availability date for the Filter Factory had changed to 7-15, I called to check the status of my order to see if I was still on the list to get mine by the original date of 6-10. To my dismay, my order had been cancelled! Simply because the warehouse originally stocking the Filter Factory was out of stock, and that factory will no longer be stocking this product. The rep had no good reason as to why they just cancelled my order, but, supposedly he fixed the problem. No one contacted me about this cancellation! I would strongly recommend that if you have an order that was placed prior to any date change on their web site you call and check the status. The rep said he would upgrade my order to "priority back-order"??? This should get me my gear in the original time frame. I really don't care when I get my gear, I just want to get it, and had I not placed the call to double check my order, I would not be getting any gear! Please understand I am not bashing Musicians Friend, even though I probably could for other reasons, I just want to give anybody out there a heads up on what could be a unfortunate glitch in their system. Pete. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:34:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30635; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:33:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:33:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:34:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Got my EDP fixed From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200106082114.RAA09683@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3074960048_834550_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3074960048_834550_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Finally got someone to open up my EDP, and indeed there was a loose chip -- it was one of the CPU chips, I believe. So hopefully it's clear sailing from here. Thanks again Andy and others for your quick advice. P>S> No wonder knocking it with my fist worked so well! --MS_Mac_OE_3074960048_834550_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Got my EDP fixed Finally got someone to open up my EDP, and indeed there was = a loose chip -- it was one of the CPU chips, I believe.  So hopefully i= t's clear sailing from here.  Thanks again Andy and others for your qui= ck advice.
P>S> No wonder knocking it with my fist worked so well!
--MS_Mac_OE_3074960048_834550_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:37:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30915; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:36:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:36:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0f13d$5057bc00$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: Subject: semi ot: ground hum? Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:38:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com has anyone experienced ground hum when using one of those a/b switches? the kind i mean is the a/v one from radio shack that has 2 video, L, R inputs and one video, L, R output with the A/B selector between them. basically i was trying to rig it so i could have either the audio out from my VCR or one of the analog outs on a SB live going into the "Aux" on my receiver. this isn't directly related to recording but i figured if i can fix this i can apply it to similar situations in a mixer. thanks for any help jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:45:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31231; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:43:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:43:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <8a.7d5d3ec.28540e7a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:42:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PaulPokr@aol.com writes: >Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? umm, unhh: no. whydya ask? blurt, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:46:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31475; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:45:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:45:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <57.174f18ed.28540eeb@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:44:43 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <9QWM9D.A.UrH.NUrI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sean_@mindspring.com writes: >No - I believe that 'splat' would be a more appropriate nickname. my kids call me 'dodar', or daoud. my friend craig calls me 'stinky'. robby calls me sumthin' else. etc..... blap, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 21:36:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02820; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:34:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:34:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.68] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: spgoodman@earthlight.net, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:33:24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 01:33:25.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[579481A0:01C0F14D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Yea, I get the "Blue Screen Of Death", "The Blue Light Special", all that Jazz. What's wrong with it ?

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From: "Stephen P. Goodman"
Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman"
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:48:44 +0100
Whatcha mean, 'free'?
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From: "MediaOne"
To:
Sent: 08 June 2001 22:31 PM
Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free
> I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list
members
> running this on a PC with success? Cliff
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 21:46:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03188; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:44:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:44:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.68] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:43:43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 01:43:43.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[C84F57C0:01C0F14E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Yes, BeHringer is the Gemini of the 2000's. Remember Gemini (back in the day, they were the company that an aspiring street Dj, could buy "affordable" Dj equipment.). They came out with the first Mixer with a 8 second sampler, for under 300.00 bucks ($299.99 to be exact). They were the first to come out with Quartz Lock Turntables for less than $200.00. Needless to say, the mixer ended up bleeding like a hemophilliac in a razor blade factory, and the turntables dragged like your Gramma Lucy, with the piles, but we did not care back then (early 90's, so we were still learning the business). So I say "Go Behringer !". Now I have a Behringer DX 1000 mixer, and it's the bee's knees ! It's ultra quiet, which is very good, since I have it hooked up to my PC ( I do PC mixing, with PCDj RED and the Numark DMC-1), but that is another matter.Now, I paid about 260.00 bucks for this mixer from Sam Ash, and I think I got a darn good deal, for a darn good piece of equipment !

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From: "maninspace"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
Subject: Re: Behringer
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:38:06 +0200
I've got loads of Behringer stuff : a mixer, monitors, compressors, tube
preamp, fx...
They do the job very well, and I would never have such a decent home studio
without Behringer, because they made it really affordable. I'm now
thinking of buying a tube compressor or ultra dyne.
Regarding the monitors : I've heard pro's saying they're better (flatter)
than the Mackie's .
I recently put a song recorded with a B mixer, compressor, tube, reverb, and
monitors on my site at http://www.geocities.com/forimul/index.html . No
loopy stuff, mind you, only a little loop at my start page. But if you'd
like to hear what an amateur can do with that stuff, it's a good example.
cheers,
Jan


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 22:22:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04836; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:20:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:20:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:20:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0F129.F85447C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0F129.F85447C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? The reason I love this list: I was just today ready to order a Behringer 20-channel mixer and hesitated at the last minute because a friend recommended I go with Mackie. And magically this thread pops up. =) Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the Behringer. =) Mike -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: PaulPokr@aol.com I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote: the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over this. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0F129.F85447C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: What the heck is Behringer doing?
 
 
    The reason I love this list:  I was = just today=20 ready to order a Behringer 20-channel mixer and hesitated at the last = minute=20 because a friend recommended I go with Mackie.  And magically this = thread=20 pops up.  =3D)  Well, I don't mind if they ripped = the designs=20 off from other companies as long as the equipment does the job, and = that's what=20 it looks like you guys are saying.  So I think I'll go with the=20 Behringer.  =3D)
 
    Mike<= /DIV>
 
 
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Sent: Friday, June = 08, 2001=20 9:34 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 What the heck is Behringer doing?

From: PaulPokr@aol.com
I've been = seeing more=20 and more Behringer equipment available. = Kee-rist!
Microphones, numerous=20 effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, = speakers,
compressors, etc.,=20 etc. What's the story with this company?

At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote:
the story = I have been=20 told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other=20 companies
to produce = their=20 products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar=20 products
from the = engineers of=20 other companies like, say, Mackie.

Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over=20 this.
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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0F129.F85447C0-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 22:22:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04994; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:20:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:20:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: "Stephen P. Goodman" , Subject: RE: Re: Pro tools free Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:21:08 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c0f154$02080200$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000201c0f0de$6bde2360$0201a8c0@stephen> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <1AYAd.A.6LB.ultI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com they released a free version of it... called, funny enough, "pro tools free." =) mike -----Original Message----- From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 6:49 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Whatcha mean, 'free'? ----- Original Message ----- From: "MediaOne" To: Sent: 08 June 2001 22:31 PM Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free > I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members > running this on a PC with success? Cliff > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 01:00:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09551; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:58:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:58:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:55:15 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1219973325==_ma============" References: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1H5M0D.A.-UC.x4vI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1219973325==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: > >Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other >companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it >looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the >Behringer. =) It's all a matter of personal ethics. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1219973325==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" RE: What the heck is Behringer doing?
At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote:
 
Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it looks like you guys are saying.  So I think I'll go with the Behringer.  =)

It's all a matter of personal ethics.

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--============_-1219973325==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 02:18:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13329; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:14:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:14:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAsp76xlc/mEOO+UCENr1izNDvoh4CFQCuVyIIMZi+9/cXwzdpzWxrbydYpA== From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:13:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Message-ID: <20441-3B231025-4066@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Johnderryneale@aol.com's message of Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:51:04 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com unsubscribe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 02:20:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13690; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:18:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:18:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.17] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:17:13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 06:17:13.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD9CB5A0:01C0F174] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: Richard Zvonar >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:55:15 -0700 > >At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: >> >>Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other >>companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it >>looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the >>Behringer. =) ...but you must realize that all this "reverse engineering" yields some diminishing returns. Yes, the Behringer mixers resesemble the Mackie's that were "lifted" from, but, I have used both and found the Behringer pre-amps far inferior to Mackies'. Same with the AutoCom, which is a cool design...but a little watered down. Most of the stuff I have tried from Behringer, while certainly affordable (and you must give them points for that...putting out gear musicians can use at price musicians can afford) is not of the high quality it claims. This goes for their itsy bitsy lil mixers to their consoles to their monitors. And I don't even want to know about their version of the POD.... Personally, when I go shopping for gear, I get the best I can...not something to make do with. I want something I can use. That is true for Behringer stuff. I do not doubt that some of you are really happpy with their products, and are, no doubt, doing some wonderfully creative stuff with it...I am not trying to knock it at all. But let's not compare it to what it was ripped from. It is, per se, just a little less. But then again, I've heard folks with their full blown Mackie HD systems turn out some pretty insipid, life-less music, and some REALLY icredible, creative and breath-taking music come out beat up 4 tracks! It ain't the gear, but the person using it! Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 05:01:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA19700; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:59:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:59:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001001c0f18b$6641a460$d7b51597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:57:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <_u63gB.A.pzE.qbzI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "max valentino" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 6:17 AM Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? > > > > >From: Richard Zvonar > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:55:15 -0700 > > > >At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: > >> > >>Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other > >>companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it > >>looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the > >>Behringer. =) > > ...but you must realize that all this "reverse engineering" yields some > diminishing returns. Yes, the Behringer mixers resesemble the Mackie's that > were "lifted" from, but, I have used both and found the Behringer pre-amps > far inferior to Mackies'. You did use some kind of spectral software to test this? I used and opened a mackie 1604 (not the last series) and my Behringer 2004, and, surprise, I found exactly the same pre-amp (as far as the electronic parts concern), and if they were only visually resembling the mackies, I don't think that mackie would sue them.Almost all the mixers look similar. But here in europe, where you can't seem to be able to find a mackie at a decent price (at least here in Italy, a 1604 has the list price of 1500$, 3000000 italian liras, the street price is almost 800 $ or 900 $; for a used Mackie 32/8 here you're going to pay almost 4000$, twice the price you have to pay for a NEW Behringer MX8000 or a Behringer 3208), to find some equipment that has the same quality at the price it should have is not that bad. As for the Autocom, I buy many magazines regarding recording studios (EQ,The Mix, etc), and I find that many studios use Behringer compressors (and I'm not talking about home or project studios, but even some high end studios, which use them together with higher end products, like Drawmers etc.). Working as a Recording engineer I have found that not always the priciest means the best. And that applies to many things sorrounding music. I tried a 25th anniversary BOSE cube system, which costed almost 6 or 7 times more than the normal one, A/B the anniversary and the normal ones in the same room, and I found them sounding 99% the same. But then I heard someone telling that the anniversary ones sounded better, as he was looking at the prices. That is all personal. I tend not to look at the price, but to listen the sound. Someone does it the other way. Bye - Luigi. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 08:35:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25538; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:34:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:34:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004a01c0f1a8$82d571c0$66effea9@oemcomputer> From: "become_1" To: References: Subject: Electrix Filter Factory Available. Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:24:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0F186.D3EB51A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 12:31:46.0678 (UTC) FILETIME=[50629960:01C0F1A9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0F186.D3EB51A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I picked up one of these little critters thursday to see if it would do = things for me, and I decided that it doesn't--or rather not things I = want done. So if anyone on the list is still looking for one, I'd be = happy to send it on to a new home. I'd like to get my cost out of it. =20 Contact me off-list if you're interested: become_1@email.msn.com Bruce ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0F186.D3EB51A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I picked up one of these little = critters=20 thursday to see if it would do things for me, and I decided that it = doesn't--or=20 rather not things I want done.  So if anyone on the list is = still=20 looking for one, I'd be happy to send it on to a new home.  = I'd like=20 to get my cost out of it. 
Contact me off-list if you're = interested:  become_1@email.msn.com<= /DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0F186.D3EB51A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 08:54:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25853; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:52:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:52:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001001c0f0e2$e8918560$c8ad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #220 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:51:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F0C1.617FE560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <74efUD.A.qTG._12I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F0C1.617FE560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #220 June 7, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Pyramid Peak, a German trio influenced by Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze. The feature CD at midnight was Random Events on the Invisible Shadow label. Pyramid Peak = http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 11:04 pm Paul Nagle Power Haus Blue Book (Neu Harmony) Syndromeda A New Start The Alien Abduction = Phenomenon (Groove/Neu Harmony) Green Isac Wasa Groundrush (Spotted = Peccary) Sola Translatio Lullaby for the Desert Mother Sunrise (Hypnos) Moon AirSculpture Shoarma Quark Soup (Neu = Harmony) Paul Nagle A Night at the Opera Red Book (Neu Harmony) Amongst Myselves Ra's Playground Still Life (RMC = Records) 12:00 am Pyramid Peak Gruga Park Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Secret Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Flow Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Distance Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Dreams Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Newsflash Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) 1:00 am * =3D exerpt VA =3D Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on the German = trio Pyramid Peak. The feature CD at midnight will be "Atmosphere" on = Torsten Kuhn's Invisible Shadows label. Bill billfox@fast.net = http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays = at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay = consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F0C1.617FE560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, = and space=20 music show, airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown = and=20 Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in
Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, = NJ.
 
          &nbs= p;        =20 Show=20 #220           &nb= sp;       =20 June 7, 2001.
 

RECAP:
On this show, I = began a=20 month-long focus on Pyramid Peak, a German trio
influenced by = Tangerine=20 Dream, Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze.  The
feature CD at = midnight=20 was Random Events on the Invisible Shadow label.
 
Pyramid=20 Peak        http://= wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun
 

PLAYLIST:
 
ARTIST         &nbs= p;       =20 TRACK           &n= bsp;       =20 ALBUM = (label)
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
11:04 pm
Paul=20 Nagle           &n= bsp; =20 Power=20 Haus           &nb= sp;  =20 Blue Book (Neu=20 Harmony)
Syndromeda        &nb= sp;    =20 A New=20 Start           &n= bsp; =20 The Alien Abduction=20 Phenomenon
          = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   =20 (Groove/Neu Harmony)
Green=20 Isac           &nb= sp; =20 Wasa           &nb= sp;        =20 Groundrush (Spotted Peccary)
Sola=20 Translatio         Lullaby for = the=20 Desert   Mother Sunrise=20 (Hypnos)
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;  =20 Moon
AirSculpture         = ;  =20 Shoarma           =       =20 Quark Soup (Neu Harmony)
Paul=20 Nagle           &n= bsp; =20 A Night at the Opera     Red Book (Neu = Harmony)
Amongst=20 Myselves        Ra's=20 Playground          Still = Life (RMC=20 Records)
 
12:00 am
Pyramid=20 Peak            = Gruga=20 Park           &nb= sp;  =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Secret           &= nbsp;      =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Flow           &nb= sp;        =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Distance           = ;     =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Dreams           &= nbsp;      =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Newsflash          &nbs= p;    =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
 
1:00 am
 
 * =3D exerpt
VA =3D = Various Artists=20 (compilation)
 

NEXT SHOW:
On the next = EMUSIC, I'll=20 continue the month-long focus on the German trio
Pyramid Peak.  = The=20 feature CD at midnight will be "Atmosphere" on = Torsten
Kuhn's=20 Invisible Shadows label.
 
 
Bill         billfox@fast.net   &n= bsp;     =20 http://wdiyfm.org/sched= ule/s_emusic.html
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Host of EMUSIC, = an=20 electronic, ambient, and space music show.  Thursdays at
11 pm = on WDIY=20 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton=20 and
Phillipsburg.  Email me if you wish to submit music for = airplay=20 consideration.
Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org
Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~bi= llfox
To=20 subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send
email to: emusic-wdiy-subscri= be@yahoogroups.com
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F0C1.617FE560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 09:00:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA26120; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:58:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:58:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e701c0f16f$89509f40$7be993c3@CBra981419> From: "Colin Bradley" To: "Dual" Subject: Noise Gate Presents... (london gig / exhibition) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:38:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello ...thought this may be of interest to some of the people around here... please check the Dual website for latest info and mp3's, they'll be a new album in July also, so look out for more live activity. We are looking to play further shows and if anyone would like to offer a gig please get in touch Colin www.dual.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Noise Gate Presents Atavistic Ratchets An Exhibition, 12 - 5pm, Free, kinetic sculpture, text, photographs, objects, film. Artists include, Pia Gambardella, Paddy Collins, Daniel James Newnham, Rob Flint, Philip Waterworth, Scott Hawkins, Cassette 41, David Clegg. Performances: 6 - 11pm £5 Lecture/Performance, electronics, songs, film projections, mime. Artists Richard Sanderson, David Ellis, Brown Sierra, Rev Richard Head & Scott Hawkins, Rob Flint, Dual, No! No! No!. Lewisham Arthouse, Saturday 16th June 01, 140 Lewisham way London SE4 6PD arthouse@dircon.co.uk info@dual.co.uk www.dual.co.uk brownsierra@hotmail.com www.noisegate.fws1.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ sorry if you receive this email more than once through various sources, sorry if your address was added to this list by mistake, it's not our intention to bombard you with more information than even we would want but if you would rather not receive this (ir)regular information please reply to this email with remove in the subject field. thanks you... Dual info@dual.co.uk www.dual.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 09:10:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27525; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:09:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:09:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <010701c0f1ae$d1d0cee0$582df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: Subject: Bass Looping Tour of California! Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:11:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, The wonderful Rick Walker, Michael Manring and Myself are embarking on a bass looping festival tour of Northern California at the beginning of next month - it'd be great to see some of you at the following gigs... 5/7/2001 9pm The First Berkeley Bass Looping Festival , featuring Manring/Walker/Lawson trio, plus support TUVA Gallery, 3192 Adeline Street, Berkeley, CA. 6/7/2001 7pm The First Sacremento Bass Looping Festival, featuring Manring/Walker/Lawson trio, with Max Valentino supporting. Borders Books & Music 2339 Fair Oaks Boulevard Sacramento, CA 95825 7/7/2001 8pm Second Annual Big Sur Looping Festival, featuring Manring/Walker/Lawson trio, with Max Valentino supporting. Henry Miller Library, Highway One, Big Sur, CA 93920 8/7/2001 (possible San Fransisco date - watch this space) 9/7/2001 8pm Rick Walker and the Rio Theater Present - The 2nd Santa Cruz Bass Looping Festival - featuring Me, Michael Manring and Rick Walker, with Max Valentino in support. Rio Theatre 1205 Soquel Ave Santa Cruz, CA 95062 tel - (831)423-2000 I'll also be at Bass Day LA on the 30th June, and hopefully doing a few gigs around LA area the week before that (if you have any suggested venues, e-mail me please!) Those lovely people at Ashdown Amplification are paying for me to be there... :o) cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk (more info about the gigs here...) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 10:08:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30807; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:05:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:05:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010610100319.007bdde0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:03:19 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 In-Reply-To: <001001c0f0e2$e8918560$c8ad5cd1@-> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If your stations only had streaming mp3 capabilities, we wouldn't have to be in Pennsylvania to hear your show! WUNH in Durham, NH has such a setup, and broadcasts a few shows that would be right up the Looper's alley. On Monday nights from 6pm to 8 pm (Eastern time), there's The In Sound, a traditional jazz program, followed at 8 pm by The PCP House of Coffee, an hour of cutting edge avant sounds (LOOP CONTENT HERE), then at 9 pm there's Gammalyte, an hour of funk and Acid Jazz (MORE LOOP CONTENT) which leads into The Trance Lab at 10, 2 hours of LOOP-FRIENDLY electronica which often features live, in-studio performances. On Tuesday nights from 10 'til midnight you can hear Heroin in Headphones, a program devoted to space, drones and household appliances. (LOTSA LOOPS.) Saturday mornings at 9 there's Polka Party. Don't laugh; the host of the show is REALLY good and you'll find yourself absolutely enjoying a musical genre you thought held no appeal for you. Plus, the guy plays accordian in a surf band... Sunday afternoons from 2 to 4, there's Worlds of Music, two hours of world music. For a more complete schedule, go to . Tim At 08:51 AM 6/9/01 -0400, you wrote: > EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursda >y >a11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM >in >Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 10:26:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31578; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:25:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:25:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015b01c0f1b9$63b00e20$582df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Subject: DL4 and JamMan nightmares... Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:25:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Great, so I've got a gig tonight and both my loop boxes are playing up! The DL4 is still making weird noises, though I've since discovered that if you have two outputs connected, the weird noise is confined to the Right channel, so so long as I have two jacks connected and only want to run one signal I'm fine... problem is, I usually run from both outputs, allowing me to put my JamMan in a separate loop, which means that there's no through signal and therefor less noise in the chain, and also means that I can use a separate volume pedal after the JamMan to fade that loop without fading the DL4 now my JamMan is playing up!!!!!!!! It keeps resetting the loop - the input level light and the display flicker and each time they do the loop is wiped. I've taken it apart and checked for loose chips, I've unplugged the footswitch and triggered it from the front panel to see if it was the lead or the switch (it isn't), I've switched power supplies (still the same) and worst of all, I've got a gig tonight, playing what looks like being my longest ever solo set in a Restaurant in London, and could really do with having both units working!!!!! F**ing technology - why didn't I just learn acoustic guitar?????? grrrrrrrrr Steve web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" - Bruce Cockburn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 10:41:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32115; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:40:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:40:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <03ac01c0f0f2$17d598c0$c8ad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:40:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <4rDd6D.A.W1H.Gb4I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 >If your stations only had streaming mp3 capabilities, we wouldn't have to >be in Pennsylvania to hear your show! > >WUNH in Durham, NH has such a setup, and >broadcasts a few shows that would be right up the Looper's alley. [snip] >Tim Hi Tim, That's great that WUNH netcasts. WDIY doesn't have the money to set that up. They've been talking about it for a long time, but no action yet. But disturbing news came in from a friend. Can anyone here substantiate this report? =========== Net Access sadly announces that effective immediately WDHA will no longer be streaming its on-air content over the Internet. WDHA is one of many radio stations effected by a recent court decision. On April 23, 2001 the US Copyright Office, siding with the RIAA, stated that royalties must be paid on streamed content. The decision has received a mixed reaction; some cheer it for clearing up some “gray areas” of copyright law, while others condemn it citing how it hinders the radio industries “ability to keep abreast of modern technology.” Radio stations pay licensing fees for the music that they broadcast over the air, the fees are based on audience size. These licensing fees are distributed to the artists in the form of royalties. This decision forces them to pay additional licensing fees for the music that they broadcast over the Internet, effectively doubling their operating costs. Several large broadcasting companies have launched a counter-suit; a decision is still pending. =========== Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 11:18:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01848; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:16:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:16:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B23B7F5.DF51EF7D@home.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:09:57 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? References: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------80451C30D5A5C3164144E036" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------80451C30D5A5C3164144E036 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just hope it doesn't break!!! Getting parts to repair this stuff is next to impossible. After Behringer pulled distribution from Sam Ash, a company in New York got the blanket and saddle. So far, we've been waiting for a year and a half for replacement transformers for two units, and 6 months for power supply parts. Just a bit of advise from the repair side of things. Be Well Will Brake Soul Fruit --------------80451C30D5A5C3164144E036 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------80451C30D5A5C3164144E036-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 11:34:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02678; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:33:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:33:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:30:36 +0200 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1597Cj-240GW0C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A nice experiences,but at least european customers have more trouble with such questions. Cutomer Support of american companies in Europe is similar to the experience you made with a german company.For Berhinger Support it is quiet easy for me in Germany. ---------- >Von: Will Brake >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 20:09 Uhr > >Just hope it doesn't break!!! Getting parts to repair this stuff is next >to impossible. After Behringer pulled distribution from Sam Ash, a >company in New York got the blanket and saddle. So far, we've been >waiting for a year and a half for replacement transformers for two >units, and 6 months for power supply parts. Just a bit of advise from >the repair side of things. > >Be Well > >Will Brake >Soul Fruit From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 11:40:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03116; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:39:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:39:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B23BD55.A95E2BEA@home.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:32:53 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? References: <1597Cj-240GW0C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C23069E8B19A566A9490CFCA" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C23069E8B19A566A9490CFCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not so...Most European makers have good distribution in the US. Sorry, but Behringer really dropped the ball on this issue. Be Well Will Brake Soul Fruit Martin Tauchen wrote: > > A nice experiences,but at least european customers have more trouble with > such questions. > Cutomer Support of american companies in Europe is similar to the experience > you > made with a german company.For Berhinger Support it is quiet easy for me in > Germany. > > ---------- > >Von: Will Brake > >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 20:09 Uhr > > > > >Just hope it doesn't break!!! Getting parts to repair this stuff is next > >to impossible. After Behringer pulled distribution from Sam Ash, a > >company in New York got the blanket and saddle. So far, we've been > >waiting for a year and a half for replacement transformers for two > >units, and 6 months for power supply parts. Just a bit of advise from > >the repair side of things. > > > >Be Well > > > >Will Brake > >Soul Fruit --------------C23069E8B19A566A9490CFCA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------C23069E8B19A566A9490CFCA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 11:58:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03686; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:57:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:57:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:54:38 +0200 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1597Zy-0Rl76uC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA03650 Resent-Message-ID: <8lbVtB.A.S5.Ej5I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hmmmmm....? As I am not residing in the US,I can not know how good the support of Behringer is. Behringer gives me here a fine support.No need for any lament. I will contact Behringer to ask them about this misery and give them a hint that a good support should be also done in the US. Maybe their Market strategy is more fixed to the european market.I guess so. On the other hand it is difficult for a foreign company to get a foot in the door of the american market. Behringer units are usually also "robust" build.So don´t worry to much ! Marty ---------- >Von: Will Brake >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 20:32 Uhr > >not so...Most European makers have good distribution in the US. Sorry, >but Behringer really dropped the ball on this issue. > >Be Well > >Will Brake >Soul Fruit > >Martin Tauchen wrote: >> >> A nice experiences,but at least european customers have more trouble with >> such questions. >> Cutomer Support of american companies in Europe is similar to the experience >> you >> made with a german company.For Berhinger Support it is quiet easy for me in >> Germany. >> >> ---------- >> >Von: Will Brake >> >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >> >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 20:09 Uhr >> > >> >> >Just hope it doesn't break!!! Getting parts to repair this stuff is next >> >to impossible. After Behringer pulled distribution from Sam Ash, a >> >company in New York got the blanket and saddle. So far, we've been >> >waiting for a year and a half for replacement transformers for two >> >units, and 6 months for power supply parts. Just a bit of advise from >> >the repair side of things. >> > >> >Be Well >> > >> >Will Brake >> >Soul Fruit From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 12:57:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06056; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:55:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:55:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010610095025.00ba55d0@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dog@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:50:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-Reply-To: References: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com fwiw: a major reason behringer stuff is so cheap is that it is manufactured in china. ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 13:08:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07370; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:06:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:06:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010610095025.00ba55d0@mail.well.com> References: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> <3.0.5.32.20010610095025.00ba55d0@mail.well.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:59:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen >fwiw: a major reason behringer stuff is so cheap is that it is manufactured >in china. Hmm. Behringer don't seem to be the nicest of companies... I think I'll continue to not-buy their products! (but damn, it's cheap...) /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 13:30:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08104; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <73.e74c2d1.28550869@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:13 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Behringer rip offs. Well apparently Mackie won their case against Behringer when it was found that a Behringer PCB duplicated the mistakes in a Mackie board. seems then that just copying the circuit, which Behringer claimed was generic, wouldn't have been good enough for a conviction. ...but then Behringer have brought out stuff that seemed to lead the market (Autocom). ...and there isn't any equivalent of the Modulizer ...I've tried out Mackies in shops, and didn't rate the quality of the pre-amps, or the EQ. whereas the Behringer stuff seems OK . ...but then Mackie recently ran adds to say they'd greatly improved their pre-amps. the other reason for Behringer being cheap is because it's made in china. Well lets all mail Behringer and ask if they're going to make a looper andy butler (rambling) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 13:38:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08447; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:37:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:37:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:34:30 +0200 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15998d-1qUOUiC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmmmmmm.....? Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full assembled or half assembeled. Prices are low there. Please look at your Apple Compuiter.Eventhough a high priced device(I prefer Apple nevertheless), most of its hardware comes form "abroad".Look at the mouse or other hardware stuff "Manufactured in China". then this pre arranged stuff goes to the Apple factories,where it is a simple Puzzle to set this preproduced together. This is the usual way of buisiness.Not only Behringer practice like it.Also the big US-companies handle it like that ! So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you should also avoid to buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! Marty ---------- >Von: Tom Ritchford >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 18:59 Uhr > >From: dan mcmullen > >>fwiw: a major reason behringer stuff is so cheap is that it is manufactured >>in china. > >Hmm. Behringer don't seem to be the nicest of companies... >I think I'll continue to not-buy their products! > >(but damn, it's cheap...) > > /t > > > that was fast > >.......all legal games of chess ...... >.....programmer's documentation .................. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 14:01:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10045; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:59:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:59:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <15998d-1qUOUiC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> References: <15998d-1qUOUiC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:46:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full >assembled or half assembeled. I have nothing against Taiwan and Indonesia... China is kinda disturbing to me because at least some of the work is done with slave labour (I doubt that they have prisoners putting together circuit boards, though). But I can't just not buy computers and electronics, it's what I do. (I mean, I do a lot of things, and that's one of them.) >So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you >should also avoid to >buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. >At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! No, I wouldn't avoid Behringer for just that reason, it'd be crazy. But given also that they do copy other designs, which bothers me as a programmer and thus an intellectual property worker! and that their stuff is a little flimsy, I'll give their products a pass. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 14:09:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10414; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:08:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:08:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010610140643.007cca10@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:06:43 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 In-Reply-To: <03ac01c0f0f2$17d598c0$c8ad5cd1@-> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <-0j4SD.A.fiC.He7I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmm, I wonder if that applies across the board, or if there are some special provisions for Public Radio, college stations and other non-commercial broadcasting. You're right, that IS disturbing. At 10:40 AM 6/9/01 -0400, you wrote: >...effective immediately WDHA >will no longer be streaming its on-air content over the >Internet. WDHA is one of many radio stations effected by a >recent court decision. On April 23, 2001 the US Copyright >Office, siding with the RIAA, stated that royalties must be >paid on streamed content. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 15:53:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13473; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:51:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:51:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQkL5K9r+cOrJjwWnFhiQCi6pFF9AIUKsuaXyKYNerVOBAYhvZql6c+nNE= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:51:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer Message-ID: <26988-3B23CFA5-902@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: SoundFNR@aol.com's message of Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:13 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ive had my beringer 9000 board for over 4 years,as well as lots of outboard stuff and ive had no problems and it sounds quiet and professional.i like it just as much as my SECK board.anyone heard of seck products?I bought my board through the mail.It is fantastic.I was wondering who handles them in the USA From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 16:00:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14704; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:59:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:59:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ7fRitpoBd47icZHvlD4obYB817QIUNpEM2wbNN9HMIDeAeSBOpgQjgvs= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:58:40 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Message-ID: <26993-3B23D170-133@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen)'s message of Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:34:30 +0200 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just bought an APEX 450 tube microphone.It can compete with my Neumann and my AKGs .,but it only cost $1200 cause its made in china.This is not a blanket praise of chinese electronics,as im sure it depends on the QC of the parent company.But i would say that Behringer and Apex keep a close watch on the chinese production quality. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 16:27:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15211; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:25:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:25:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:23:10 +0200 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Behringer copy some designs and constructions.That is not a wonder to me. A lot of tools we use,are mostly copies of something else. In the pharmaceutical buisiness we call such "products" generica.After a time such companies offers such copies of products at a low price.So I trace Behringer as a "Generica" reseller. The "original" producer had immense costs to develop a "medical" product,so he is protected by International laws for some years.After this time everyone can bring a "copy" of this product on the market. Actually seen on the debate in Africa,where gouverments want to allow to produce copies of medical product-wich can help a little bit against the negative effects of HIV infection.The Pharmaindustry will not allow it,because it is still in the protected phase of the copyright.But in Africa no one can afford this medecine. So these gouverments decided to ripp Generica from the original design. >From this case,I have also my doubts about Dow Chemical and Co.Profit orientated. The latest News was that they have found now a compromise. Nevertheless,the discussion before it was not a sign of morality in this case. Behringer rips maybe somethings of.But all devices are not totally brandnew technology, wich need a special protection.Functions are nearly similar.A mixing console will be always a mixing console.How it will be designed depends on the engineers.And most parts of a mixing console come again from different producers,where all M-Console produce shop. The same is valid for FX-devices and other audio equipment. According to the streetprice,we should not wonder,that Behringer products are not the best,but they are also not filthy. If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was released in 1983. The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. One word to China.The situation for labours there is really not OK.but in Indonesia,Malaysia and Taiwan the simple labour is in a similar situation like in China.Ever seen how they work there ? And what are there rights ? The only difference between China and the others is the political system. And when HongKong was still under british gouverment.Ever seen old people living in their birdcage ? After a life of long hard work,this was their last place for living.Two Squaremeter space with a hight of 1,5 meter.Looking like a birdcage. And at least,everyone knows,that Bill Gates Microsoft is the worlds greatest Ripper. Marty ---------- >Von: Tom Ritchford >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 19:46 Uhr > >>Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full >>assembled or half assembeled. > >I have nothing against Taiwan and Indonesia... > >China is kinda disturbing to me because at least >some of the work is done with slave labour (I doubt that >they have prisoners putting together circuit boards, though). > >But I can't just not buy computers and electronics, it's >what I do. > >(I mean, I do a lot of things, and that's one of them.) > > >>So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you >>should also avoid to >>buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. >>At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! > >No, I wouldn't avoid Behringer for just that reason, it'd be crazy. > >But given also that they do copy other designs, which bothers me >as a programmer and thus an intellectual property worker! >and that their stuff is a little flimsy, >I'll give their products a pass. > > /t > > > that was fast > >.......all legal games of chess ...... >.....programmer's documentation .................. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 17:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17021; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:04:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:04:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:03:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with mixers...ridiculous! italoop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Tauchen" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > Behringer copy some designs and constructions.That is not a wonder to me. > A lot of tools we use,are mostly copies of something else. > > In the pharmaceutical buisiness we call such "products" generica.After a > time > such companies offers such copies of products at a low price.So I trace > Behringer > as a "Generica" reseller. > The "original" producer had immense costs to develop a "medical" product,so > he is > protected by International laws for some years.After this time everyone can > bring a > "copy" of this product on the market. > Actually seen on the debate in Africa,where gouverments want to allow to > produce > copies of medical product-wich can help a little bit against the negative > effects > of HIV infection.The Pharmaindustry will not allow it,because it is still in > the > protected phase of the copyright.But in Africa no one can afford this > medecine. > So these gouverments decided to ripp Generica from the original design. > From this case,I have also my doubts about Dow Chemical and Co.Profit > orientated. > The latest News was that they have found now a compromise. > Nevertheless,the discussion before it was not a sign of morality in this > case. > > Behringer rips maybe somethings of.But all devices are not totally brandnew > technology, > wich need a special protection.Functions are nearly similar.A mixing console > will be > always a mixing console.How it will be designed depends on the engineers.And > most parts > of a mixing console come again from different producers,where all M-Console > produce shop. > The same is valid for FX-devices and other audio equipment. > According to the streetprice,we should not wonder,that Behringer products > are not the > best,but they are also not filthy. > > If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products > were ripped off > from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed there in the > seventies,a first commercial > product-the DX7 was released in 1983. > The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and > manifested as consumertool in > 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. > > One word to China.The situation for labours there is really not OK.but in > Indonesia,Malaysia and > Taiwan the simple labour is in a similar situation like in China.Ever seen > how they work there ? > And what are there rights ? The only difference between China and the others > is the political > system. > And when HongKong was still under british gouverment.Ever seen old people > living in their birdcage ? > After a life of long hard work,this was their last place for living.Two > Squaremeter space with a > hight of 1,5 meter.Looking like a birdcage. > > And at least,everyone knows,that Bill Gates Microsoft is the worlds greatest > Ripper. > > > Marty > > > > > > ---------- > >Von: Tom Ritchford > >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 19:46 Uhr > > > > >>Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full > >>assembled or half assembeled. > > > >I have nothing against Taiwan and Indonesia... > > > >China is kinda disturbing to me because at least > >some of the work is done with slave labour (I doubt that > >they have prisoners putting together circuit boards, though). > > > >But I can't just not buy computers and electronics, it's > >what I do. > > > >(I mean, I do a lot of things, and that's one of them.) > > > > > >>So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you > >>should also avoid to > >>buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. > >>At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! > > > >No, I wouldn't avoid Behringer for just that reason, it'd be crazy. > > > >But given also that they do copy other designs, which bothers me > >as a programmer and thus an intellectual property worker! > >and that their stuff is a little flimsy, > >I'll give their products a pass. > > > > /t > > > > > > that was fast > > > >.......all legal games of chess ...... > >.....programmer's documentation .................. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 17:10:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17220; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:08:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:08:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:04:58 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:23 PM +0200 6/10/01, Martin Tauchen wrote: >If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products >were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed >there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was >released in 1983. >The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and >manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. Not ripped off in these cases. Yamaha has a long-standing set of licensing agreements with Stanford, dating to John Chowning's 1975 linear FM patent. Physical modeling was similarly licensed from Stanford. I'm not aware of any claims against Yamaha of infringement. In fact, my impression of the company is generally positive. They have a good reputation for supporting research and education, and I've personally found them (and by this I mean the individuals I've dealt with) to be cordial and even generous. In contrast, I have no such warm and fuzzy feelings for the rippers of the world, such as Behringer and Fernandes. That isn't to say there aren't problems. When Yamaha secured patents on linear FM applications to musical instrument design, this meant that other manufacturers were obliged to either pay them licensing fees or cease to use the technique in their own instruments. Some smaller manufacturers, such as Buchla, had already been using FM, but didn't think to apply for a patent. Another case that I have problems with is Coda's patents on interactive computer music and score following. They struck a deal with Roger Dannenberg, who had the foresight to secure a patent in 1985, and Coda insisted that their patents applied to all score following algorithms. Other researchers who had independently arrived at score following were in theory obliged to pay Coda for a license. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 17:20:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17465; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:15:18 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with >mixers...ridiculous! You don't believe in professional ethics? If Company A spends a lot of money to design a piece of equipment and then Company B simply copies the design and sells it at a lower price, this is OK with you? Curious. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 18:27:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19879; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:26:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:26:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c0f1fc$1db92760$89ab1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:24:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No Richard, that is NOT ok!!! But this thread doesn't get anywhere. See ethics are totally unrespected in any field, including human beings lives....so what's the point anyway here? Are national distributors ethical when they charge DOUBLE price compared to the manufacturer country? Are shops ethical when they try to sell pro gear WITHOUT any specialized people assisting clients? Are manufacturers ethical when they NEVER fix bugs or put out MALFUNCTIONING gear? Is SAMPLING ethical? Is MP3 ethical? ...well, we could go on forever! what's the point?...I don't know. Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Zvonar" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:15 PM Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with > >mixers...ridiculous! > > You don't believe in professional ethics? > > If Company A spends a lot of money to design a piece of equipment and > then Company B simply copies the design and sells it at a lower > price, this is OK with you? > > Curious. > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 18:39:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20159; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:38:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:38:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:38:00 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: <000701c0f1fc$1db92760$89ab1597@default> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> <000701c0f1fc$1db92760$89ab1597@default> Resent-Message-ID: <3kHRtC.A.x6E.Db_I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 12:24 AM +0200 6/11/01, Italo De Angelis wrote: >See ethics are totally unrespected in any field, including human beings >lives....so what's the point anyway here? >Are national distributors ethical when they charge DOUBLE price compared to >the manufacturer country? >Are shops ethical when they try to sell pro gear WITHOUT any specialized >people assisting clients? >Are manufacturers ethical when they NEVER fix bugs or put out MALFUNCTIONING >gear? >Is SAMPLING ethical? >Is MP3 ethical? >...well, we could go on forever! >what's the point?...I don't know. The point is to remind people that despite all the unethical behavior in the world, it still IS an issue! When we do business we should support companies who behave ethically and we should shun those who do not. When someone considers buying products or services from an unethical company, it is the responsibility of those who care about ethics to point out that the way such a company does business is at least as important as how inexpensive their products are. This is one way we can help to improve the industry. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 19:00:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20506; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:53:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:53:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106102252.PAA19401@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:55:13 -0700 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6sivfC.A.0_E.Lp_I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sorry to be so cliche ridden,but -knowledge is power-ignorance is bliss-U get what U pay 4 goinloopy stanner ---------- >From: Richard Zvonar >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Date: Sun, Jun 10, 2001, 2:04 PM > >At 10:23 PM +0200 6/10/01, Martin Tauchen wrote: > >>If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products >>were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed >>there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was >>released in 1983. >>The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and >>manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. > >Not ripped off in these cases. Yamaha has a long-standing set of >licensing agreements with Stanford, dating to John Chowning's 1975 >linear FM patent. Physical modeling was similarly licensed from >Stanford. > >I'm not aware of any claims against Yamaha of infringement. In fact, >my impression of the company is generally positive. They have a good >reputation for supporting research and education, and I've personally >found them (and by this I mean the individuals I've dealt with) to be >cordial and even generous. > >In contrast, I have no such warm and fuzzy feelings for the rippers >of the world, such as Behringer and Fernandes. > >That isn't to say there aren't problems. When Yamaha secured patents >on linear FM applications to musical instrument design, this meant >that other manufacturers were obliged to either pay them licensing >fees or cease to use the technique in their own instruments. Some >smaller manufacturers, such as Buchla, had already been using FM, but >didn't think to apply for a patent. > >Another case that I have problems with is Coda's patents on >interactive computer music and score following. They struck a deal >with Roger Dannenberg, who had the foresight to secure a patent in >1985, and Coda insisted that their patents applied to all score >following algorithms. Other researchers who had independently arrived >at score following were in theory obliged to pay Coda for a license. >-- > >______________________________________________________________ >Richard Zvonar, PhD >(818) 788-2202 >http://www.zvonar.com >http://RZCybernetics.com >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 19:24:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22186; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:23:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:23:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010610232256.52389.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The schedule sounds great. I will be checking it out. If there are people who are interested in seeing a streaming mp3 show based on looping artists please let me know, I am involved with a site that hosts shoutcast shows. I would think there would be enough content to start a show for loop based recordings. The important issue here is having people that are interested in being played but also whether there is an audience to listen to the show. We are a self sustaining site that has no ads or intrusive requirements required to hear the shows we support. Please let me know if this would interest you. Bruce Satinover ArtistLaunch.com http://artistlaunch.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If your stations only had streaming mp3 capabilities, we wouldn't have to be in Pennsylvania to hear your show! WUNH in Durham, NH has such a setup, and broadcasts a few shows that would be right up the Looper's alley. On Monday nights from 6pm to 8 pm (Eastern time), there's The In Sound, a traditional jazz program, followed at 8 pm by The PCP House of Coffee, an hour of cutting edge avant sounds (LOOP CONTENT HERE), then at 9 pm there's Gammalyte, an hour of funk and Acid Jazz (MORE LOOP CONTENT) which leads into The Trance Lab at 10, 2 hours of LOOP-FRIENDLY electronica which often features live, in-studio performances. On Tuesday nights from 10 'til midnight you can hear Heroin in Headphones, a program devoted to space, drones and household appliances. (LOTSA LOOPS.) Saturday mornings at 9 there's Polka Party. Don't laugh; the host of the show is REALLY good and you'll find yourself absolutely enjoying a musical genre you thought held no appeal for you. Plus, the guy plays accordian in a surf band... Sunday afternoons from 2 to 4, there's Worlds of Music, two hours of world music. For a more complete schedule, go to . Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 19:47:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22653; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:45:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:45:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2406AE.1CBF3250@home.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:45:50 -0400 From: JoE Silva Organization: QRM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cubase, loops, and desperation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com All- Just started using Cubase (3.7). Need help with understanding sample loops and "parts" in the audio editor. Why when importing a perfect sample loop from a CD or from my audio editor (Sound Forge 4.5), can I not get Cubase to loop the audio file perfectly just by butting copies of the original against one another. There is always an audio pause as Cubase moves from one copy to the next. Sanity is slipping away. Any help would be a Godsend... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 19:57:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22946; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:56:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:56:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: YooN08@aol.com Message-ID: <47.c5d4ee4.285562eb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:55:23 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_47.c5d4ee4.285562eb_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_47.c5d4ee4.285562eb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe --part1_47.c5d4ee4.285562eb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe
--part1_47.c5d4ee4.285562eb_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 20:38:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA24893; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:37:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:37:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:36:44 -0400 Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: antonio melo To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <47.c5d4ee4.285562eb@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3075050204_247942_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3075050204_247942_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Welcome to the Loopers-Delight mailing list! Please keep this mail for future reference! This is a place for discussing the use of loops in music - the techniques, the tools, the artists, the art. It is a wide subject, with plenty of areas to delve. So go to it! There are no restrictions on what can or cannot be discussed here. I'm a firm beleiver in a community's ability to regulate itself, so if you stray too far off the subject someone will probably let you know. For nettiquete's sake, you should try to post things that are somewhere near the topic. Just don't start any flame wars, ok? Through communication we can build our little loop community and extend our art! To post to the list, send your mail to: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com If you ever need to unsubscribe, send mail to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject and the body. (without the quotes!) Make sure that your signature file is turned off. You can also find list information here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html And be sure to check the Looper's Delight web page: http://www.loopers-delight.com If you are new to mailing lists (or for that matter, if you have used them for years....) I highly recommend you visit the section on mailing lists in the highly regarded "The Net: User Guidelines and Netiquette", by Arlene H. Rinaldi: http://www.fau.edu/netiquette/net/dis.html If you need to discuss anything directly with me, I'm Kim Flint, and my email address is kflint@loopers-delight.com. Have fun, and happy looping! kim This is an automated subscription mechanism. For your verification, a transcript of the original subscription request is included below. If the wrong address has been subscribed and you seem to be unable to fix it yourself, reply to this message now (quoting it entirely (for diagnostic purposes), and of course adding any comments you see fit). -- From: YooN08@aol.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:55:23 EDT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:55:30 -0400 unsubscribe --MS_Mac_OE_3075050204_247942_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: unsubscribe Welcome to the Loopers-Delight mailing list!

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--MS_Mac_OE_3075050204_247942_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 21:54:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27213; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:52:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:52:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:51:02 EDT Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc.163c0853.28557e06_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_cc.163c0853.28557e06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it would certainly interest me - i spend alot of time listening to streaming audio and i don't think there can ever be too much of a good thing - a streaming site dedicated to loop based music would be great - count me in (as a listener and possible contributor of music) - harry --part1_cc.163c0853.28557e06_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it would certainly interest me - i spend alot of time listening to streaming
audio and i don't think there can ever be too much of a good thing - a
streaming site dedicated to loop based music would be great - count me in (as
a listener and possible contributor of music) - harry
--part1_cc.163c0853.28557e06_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 01:56:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA03778; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 01:53:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 01:53:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001601c0f23b$692ca660$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: <3B2406AE.1CBF3250@home.com> Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:57:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Look closely at the wav to make sure there are no gaps at the ends- but the issue is probably in the arrange window in Cubase- if the Song is not at the same tempo of the loop it may not fit perfectly- so you can do a few things to solve- one is to sdjust the tempo in Cubase to match the tempo of the sample- the other is to time stretch the sample in Cubase to fit properly- if you zoom in on the event you will see it does not go all the way to the bar line- there is a stretch tool in Cubase- but be warned, time stretching is very good at introducing artifacts into the sound- also, you will need to copy the stretched part and paste it end to end- Happy Looping- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: JoE Silva To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: Cubase, loops, and desperation > All- > > Just started using Cubase (3.7). Need help with understanding sample > loops and "parts" in the audio editor. Why when importing a perfect > sample loop from a CD or from my audio editor (Sound Forge 4.5), can I > not get Cubase to loop the audio file perfectly just by butting copies > of the original against one another. There is always an audio pause as > Cubase moves from one copy to the next. Sanity is slipping away. Any > help would be a Godsend... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 03:07:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA07026; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:05:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:05:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106110704.DAA06996@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:59:19 +0200 Subject: my JamMan question. From: "The Music Lab" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi there! Okay, I know, the JamMan is not the newest looping device around, but many of us are still using it and feeling happy about it. I just recently got mine, so I am pretty new to looping. Also I have basically just been lurking on the loopers-delight list. Last thursday I have posted to the list with some questions about trying to make an AABA scheme on the JamMan. So far, nobody replied. I understand that maybe I am asking to much, but I am dedicated to make it work in some way. More stupid even is the fact that I've committed myself to do an AABA-style loop performance next wednesday, here in Holland, without even getting things right technically...yes: stupid! So you guys out there, being a really dedicated looping-community, please be so kind to help me out on this one!! Thanks so much, Frank Below are my JamMan questions: I am trying to play an AABA scheme with my JamMan (32 sec.), but I am not succesful so far. I would like to record loop 1 (the first A) as follows: 4 bars in tempo 60 with 16 midi quarter notes in punch in loop mode, actually resulting in a 8 bars loop in tempo 120 with 32 quarter notes). Then loop 1 should be repeated (no layering, just playing) to form the second A. After that loop 2 should be recorded to form the B. Finally our first loop 1 comes back to form the third A. So this would buid an AABA scheme, which I would like to repeat a couple of times, each time adding new sounds to the first A and the B. I've tried to do this with the sequencer being the master and the Jamman as a slave. I am programming in Logic on my Mac.I would like to copy the final sequence in Logic to a stand alone sequencer (Yamaha QY70) which I could take with me on stage to drive the JamMan. I would like to use a headphone with a clicktrack for the first 2 or 3 choruses. I have found out that after recording the B (loop 2), there is no way of cuing the JamMan in order to continue playing loop 1 straight away. It wants to play loop 2 first. Well Okay....in that case I've decided to first get both loops in the Jamman by lowering the input knob to zero and start the sequencer. I programmed a Tap on the first beat of bar1 and it records loop 1 (4 bars, tempo 60), it plays loop1 and then goes into recording loop 2 with the same lenght. I let play loop 2 (which is silent, since the input knob is on zero) and raise the input knob to a good level. I cue loop 1 and start playing my instrument and recording my first A. It then starts playing the second A, I cue loop2 and sometimes it goes into record mode and sometimes not. Then things are getting messy and out of sync. I've tried dozens of diffent Tap commands but the JamMan just does what it likes. MY JAMMAN-SLAVE QUESTIONS: *is there someone who has already made a midi-file which can do an AABA scheme? *Could I record a click and then shift it forward to sound in sync. Will there be any cutoffs on my recordings? So, not being succesful I want to try and use the JamMan as the master controlling the sequencer. Before I spend another 20 hours on finding out how to do this, could someone tell me the secret??? Thanks for reading all this. Help greatly appreciated! Frank Bilsen -- The Music Lab Frank Bilsen Netherlands tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 fax: 0299-404834 e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl site: http://welcome.to/themusiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 04:21:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09350; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:19:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:19:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Got my EDP fixed Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:18:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F24F.0E1D92F2" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F24F.0E1D92F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm glad it was something obvious, but out of all the removable parts inside, the big 68-pin devices are the least-likely to come out of their sockets, so this is quite strange. Make sure your friend did the other things we mentioned; re-seat the EPROMS, clean the memory etc. as this loose CPU may not have been the initial fault; it could have been dislodged when you thumped it and just be a red herring. Andy. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 10 June 2001 00:34 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Got my EDP fixed Finally got someone to open up my EDP, and indeed there was a loose chip -- it was one of the CPU chips, I believe. So hopefully it's clear sailing from here. Thanks again Andy and others for your quick advice. P>S> No wonder knocking it with my fist worked so well! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F24F.0E1D92F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: Got my EDP fixed
I'm glad it was something obvious, but out of all the removable parts inside, the big 68-pin devices are the least-likely to come out of their sockets, so this is quite strange. Make sure your friend did the other things we mentioned; re-seat the EPROMS, clean the memory etc. as this loose CPU may not have been the initial fault; it could have been dislodged when you thumped it and just be a red herring.
Andy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: 10 June 2001 00:34
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Got my EDP fixed

Finally got someone to open up my EDP, and indeed there was a loose chip -- it was one of the CPU chips, I believe.  So hopefully it's clear sailing from here.  Thanks again Andy and others for your quick advice.
P>S> No wonder knocking it with my fist worked so well!
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F24F.0E1D92F2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 05:09:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11224; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:05:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:05:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:04:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F255.86C7B1F0" Resent-Message-ID: <35oVLB.A.MvC.NnIJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F255.86C7B1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cheers Paul, (cheque's in the post). -----Original Message----- From: PaulPokr@aol.com [mailto:PaulPokr@aol.com] Sent: 09 June 2001 00:44 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway. I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion about the use of this complex unit. Many people were waiting for the EDP's, when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting to this board lately. Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life using the EDP. True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. saving loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro. Regards, Paul ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F255.86C7B1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Cheers Paul,
(cheque's in the post).
-----Original Message-----
From: PaulPokr@aol.com [mailto:PaulPokr@aol.com]
Sent: 09 June 2001 00:44
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Electrix

Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway.
I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion
about the use of this complex unit. Many people were waiting for the EDP's,
when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace
Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on
various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting
to this board lately.

Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life using
the EDP.

True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. saving
loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best
currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro.

Regards, Paul
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F255.86C7B1F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 05:23:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11495; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:21:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:21:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de Message-ID: <008001c0f257$242d50c0$0478fd91@StephenParsick> To: Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:45:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0F25B.3A695060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0F25B.3A695060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I=B4ve been working for Behringer as a translator for a while and = won=B4t give away too many secrets of their manufacture or whatever. I = am using some of their products, most notably the MX2642A mixer as this = is by far the most flexible 19" mixer on the market, and if your music = is heavily based on looping and processing there is nothing to beat this = unit routing and sound-wise for stage and live applications or where = space is an issue. But honestly, I was working hand in hand with the R&D department back = then and their hottest product was what became that blue POD spin-off. I = asked whether they wouldn=B4t be interested in building a loop sampler = as this was what many people were waiting for... no reply, just a grin. = Who knows... maybe they wait until the repeater is available in order to = get some inspiration 8)? Speaking for me, not for Behringer, Stephen. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0F25B.3A695060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
I=B4ve been working for Behringer as a = translator for=20 a while and won=B4t give away too many secrets of their manufacture or = whatever. I=20 am using some of their products, most notably the MX2642A mixer as this = is by=20 far the most flexible 19" mixer on the market, and if your music is = heavily=20 based on looping and processing there is nothing to beat this unit = routing and=20 sound-wise for stage and live applications or where space is an=20 issue.
 
But honestly, I was working hand in = hand with=20 the R&D department back then and their hottest product was what = became that=20 blue POD spin-off. I asked whether they wouldn=B4t be interested in = building a=20 loop sampler as this was what many people were waiting for... no reply, = just a=20 grin. Who knows... maybe they wait until the repeater is available in = order to=20 get some inspiration 8)?
 
Speaking for me, not for = Behringer,
 
Stephen.
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0F25B.3A695060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 05:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11494; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:21:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:21:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de Message-ID: <008101c0f257$2539dec0$0478fd91@StephenParsick> To: Cc: Subject: Concert announcement! Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:15:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0F267.C26499A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0F267.C26499A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, now follows a classic example of shameless and blatant self-promotion as = I am going to announce our concert at Jodrell Bank planetarium on June = 23... First set will be [=B4ramp], performing dark ambient music in the vein = of Lightwave, Robert Rich or Michael Stearns, heavily based on looping = and recycling, mixed with some rather leftfield electronics in the style = of Node or... well, Node. The current line-up of [=B4ramp] will be Frank = Makowski and the humble author of these lines. The entire concert will = be improvised, just like the second show of the day. Second set will be German space music veteran Cosmic Hoffmann aka Klaus = Hoffmann-Hoock of MIND OVER MATTER fame (well, sort of), supported also = by the humble writer of this pamphlet 8). Stylistically, the CH gig will = be exploring the psychedelic side of electronic music, going into the = realms of Pink Floyd, early Tangerine Dream (think Phaedra/Rubycon era) = and some free-flowing ambient stuff.=20 Analog content: We=B4ll be using, among other things, a Roland Jupiter 8 = and JD-800, NordLead 2, Korg PE-2000, Mini Moog, Moog Prodigy, Rhodes 73 = Mk. 1 stage piano w/ Mutron Biphase, Yamaha YC-30, various processors, = tape delays and loop devices, and eventually -- if Martin and John = supply us with one -- a Mellotron. Klaus will be demonstrating his = Megatron, a digital Mellotron based on his vast archive of tapesets of = all Mellotron models, ranging from the Mk. 2 and M-300 to the M-400. The concerts will be held at the Jodrell Bank planetarium. For further = information check www.synthmusicdirect.com or get in touch with Dave Law = (the organizer) at dave@synthmusicdirect.com. On the synthmusic site = you=B4ll find reviews of our albums which may or may not be helpful if = you=B4re not yet sure whether to come or not. You might also want to = check our webpage at www.nodular.de for more info on our projects. Hope to see many UK AHers there. Just talk to us, we won=B4t bite back = 8). The only problem: Time will be in short supply, I=B4m afraid.... Cheerio, and sorry for stealing your time, Stephen/[=B4ramp] ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0F267.C26499A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
now follows a classic example of = shameless and=20 blatant self-promotion as I am going to announce our concert at Jodrell = Bank=20 planetarium on June 23...
 
First set will be [=B4ramp], performing = dark ambient=20 music in the vein of Lightwave, Robert Rich or Michael Stearns, heavily = based on=20 looping and recycling, mixed with some rather leftfield electronics = in the=20 style of Node or... well, Node. The current line-up of [=B4ramp] will be = Frank=20 Makowski and the humble author of these lines. The entire concert will = be=20 improvised, just like the second show of the day.
 
Second set will be German space = music veteran=20 Cosmic Hoffmann aka Klaus Hoffmann-Hoock of MIND OVER MATTER fame (well, = sort=20 of), supported also by the humble writer of this pamphlet 8).=20 Stylistically, the CH gig will be exploring the psychedelic side of = electronic=20 music, going into the realms of Pink Floyd, early Tangerine Dream (think = Phaedra/Rubycon era) and some free-flowing ambient = stuff. 
 
Analog content: We=B4ll be using, among = other things,=20 a Roland Jupiter 8 and JD-800, NordLead 2, Korg PE-2000, Mini Moog, Moog = Prodigy, Rhodes 73 Mk. 1 stage piano w/ Mutron Biphase, Yamaha YC-30, = various=20 processors, tape delays and loop devices, and eventually -- if = Martin and=20 John supply us with one -- a Mellotron. Klaus will be demonstrating his=20 Megatron, a digital Mellotron based on his vast archive of tapesets of = all=20 Mellotron models, ranging from the Mk. 2 and M-300 to the = M-400.
 
The concerts will be held at the = Jodrell Bank=20 planetarium. For further information check www.synthmusicdirect.com or = get in=20 touch with Dave Law (the organizer) at dave@synthmusicdirect.com. = On the=20 synthmusic site you=B4ll find reviews of our albums which may or may not = be=20 helpful if you=B4re not yet sure whether to come or not. You might also = want to=20 check our webpage at www.nodular.de for more=20 info on our projects.
 
Hope to see many UK AHers there. Just = talk to us,=20 we won=B4t bite back 8). The only problem: Time will be in short supply, = I=B4m=20 afraid....
 
Cheerio, and sorry for stealing your=20 time,
 
Stephen/[=B4ramp]
------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0F267.C26499A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 06:33:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13537; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:30:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:30:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:29:33 EDT Subject: Re: my JamMan question. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <48tSw.A.RTD.Q2JJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com eek: i can't remember almost anything about the jamman; i gave mine to one of my kids, when i received my EDP..... though: if you don't get a suitable answer from this list, ya may wanna contact bob sellon. (his website must be listed in the LD archives, i'd guess; the name of his own business was 's-tech', i believe, and he *may* still work at lexicon, as well..... anyone? anyways: he'll certainly have a solution for ya.) re: logic: is it possible that you're sending 'midi settings on startup' to the jamman, thereby auto-setting the jammie to loop#2?, or, have ya got a prog.change. checked-off in the seq/parameter box? and..... i loosely remember that the midi-sync on the (early) jammen was a bit squirrelly..... again, sorry: i can't remember much about the jamman..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 09:16:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19978; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:13:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:13:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: ormandy@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:12:10 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Ormandy Subject: Possible Vortex for Sale Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have a Vortex that I seem to no longer use - it is in immaculate shape (not even scratches on the rackmount ears), has the origional two Lexicon foot switches, adaptor, cables, and manual. Anyone interested? Feel free to e-mail me directly - ormandy@interlog.com. Ciao, Paul O. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 09:38:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20470; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:36:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:36:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B24F1D2.2E9D85F0@home.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:29:06 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer References: <73.e74c2d1.28550869@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4E8887994F2E69FD3566825D" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4E8887994F2E69FD3566825D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, Mackie lost. Just goes to show you there is no justice.... Will SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > > Behringer rip offs. > Well apparently Mackie won their case against Behringer > when it was found that a Behringer PCB duplicated the mistakes > in a Mackie board. > seems then that just copying the circuit, which Behringer > claimed was generic, wouldn't have been good enough for > a conviction. > > ...but then Behringer have brought out stuff that seemed to > lead the market (Autocom). > ...and there isn't any equivalent of the Modulizer > ...I've tried out Mackies in shops, and didn't rate the quality of > the pre-amps, or the EQ. whereas the Behringer > stuff seems OK . > ...but then Mackie recently ran adds to say they'd greatly improved their > pre-amps. > > the other reason for Behringer being cheap is because it's made in china. > > Well lets all mail Behringer and ask if they're going to > make a looper > > andy butler (rambling) --------------4E8887994F2E69FD3566825D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------4E8887994F2E69FD3566825D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 10:04:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22012; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:01:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:01:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001b01c0f27f$32a64620$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: Subject: echo-plus vs.Boss RC-20 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:02:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0F25D.AB5AAA60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0F25D.AB5AAA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is the RC-20 more like a jam man where you can create a loop and layer = it where if there's a mistake, you stop the loop and start again? The = Echo-plus will let the loop fade out when you release the "infinite = repeat" and lets you punch in a sound at any point during the fading out = of the loop. Does the RC-20 have that "delay pedal" capability? Am very curious about = its 5 minute capabilities though. Thanks--jehn ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0F25D.AB5AAA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is the RC-20 more like a jam man where = you can=20 create a loop and layer it where if there's a mistake, you stop the loop = and=20 start again? The Echo-plus will let the loop fade out when you = release the=20 "infinite repeat" and lets you punch in a sound at any point during the = fading=20 out of the loop.
 
Does the RC-20 have that "delay pedal" = capability?=20 Am very curious about its 5 minute capabilities though.
 
Thanks--jehn
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0F25D.AB5AAA60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 10:12:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22303; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:10:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:10:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B24D119.C1920DCD@home.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:09:29 -0400 From: JoE Silva Organization: QRM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, etc References: <200106111033.GAA13619@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DCB412C2AF0C68FD3C356DDA" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------DCB412C2AF0C68FD3C356DDA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:57:34 -0700 > From: "Om_Audio" > To: > Look closely at the wav to make sure there are no gaps at the ends- > but the > issue is probably in the arrange window in Cubase- if the Song is not > at the > same tempo of the loop it may not fit perfectly I think you're right. Now I understand why Acid is such a popular tool, considering that it performs this operation with far less effort. It looks like I will have to go back and make sure all my tempos and sample rates match up before proceeding with this remix. --------------DCB412C2AF0C68FD3C356DDA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:57:34 -0700
From: "Om_Audio" <clifsound@mediaone.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
 
Look closely at the wav to make sure there are no gaps at the ends- but the
issue is probably in the arrange window in Cubase- if the Song is not at the
same tempo of the loop it may not fit perfectly
I think you're right. Now I understand why Acid is such a popular tool, considering that it performs this operation with far less effort.

It looks like I will have to go back and make sure all my tempos and sample rates match up before proceeding with this remix. --------------DCB412C2AF0C68FD3C356DDA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 10:53:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23186; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:49:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:49:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Might anyone have some flight cases for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:52:50 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I need a flight case for my mackie 1402-sp808 and rackmount dat-anyone have some used cases for sale? thanks c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 11:56:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25141; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:26:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:26:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:17:54 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Behringer In-reply-to: <3B24F1D2.2E9D85F0@home.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <73.e74c2d1.28550869@aol.com> <3B24F1D2.2E9D85F0@home.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:29 AM -0700 6/11/01, Will Brake wrote: >Actually, Mackie lost. Just goes to show you there is no justice.... The only information I can find is a press release announcing that the suit had been settled, but that the terms are confidential. What's the real scoop? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 12:04:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25318; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:33:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:33:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:23:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1219849512==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1219849512==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of >other companies >to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by >similar products >from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. > >so I have been told. some of their products do look feature-similar to other >offerings from companies like, say, Mackie. interesting...the salesguy at GC, where i recently bought my Behringer 1604 mixer said the same thing, that they are essentially trying to make a 'Mackie' quality mixer at a lower price point. dunno. so far, i'm having good luck with it. nice price too.. rich --============_-1219849512==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: What the heck is Behringer doing?

the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies
to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products
from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie.

so I have been told.  some of their products do look feature-similar to other
offerings from companies like, say, Mackie.

interesting...the salesguy at GC, where i recently bought my Behringer 1604 mixer said the same thing, that they are essentially trying to make a 'Mackie' quality mixer at a lower price point.

dunno.  so far, i'm having good luck with it.  nice price too..

rich
--============_-1219849512==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 12:36:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27797; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:19:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:19:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: my JamMan question. Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:17:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <200106110704.DAA06996@hemlock.violacea.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I recall that trying to do AABA on the Jamman gave me the willies--it's quite inflexible in that regard. When I acquired an Echoplex Digital Pro that problem was solved immediately. Is it possible you could get your hands quickly on an EDP? You wouldn't have any problem getting it to work right away--pretty easily done. Even using MIDI, the Jammer just isn't the right tool for what you're trying to do 8>( Gary Lehmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 12:38:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27836; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:20:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:20:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:17:55 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA27749 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: >>Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it >>looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the Behringer. =) Has no one mentioned that besides the fact that they 'reverse engineer' their products based on the hard work of others. They also manufacture at least some of their products in China... I believe there's a few ethical dilemmas involved in that particular approach to cutting costs via dirt-cheap, underpaid, sweat shop labor? Food for thought... -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:01:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28603; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:49:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:49:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002601c0f296$4bcfce20$feae1597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <200106102252.PAA19401@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:48:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just not to come back to old discussions - has anyone in here ever heard about the Wilkinson Vs100 Convertible guitar bridge? Wilkinson created it, it could not be a technological masterpiece, but it was useful - a vibrato bridge that you could turn into a fixed bridge just by not using the vibrato arm - I'm still looking around for one of these beasts, as GIBSON decided to sue Wilkinson for copyright infringement, as they claimed that Gibson patented a very similar unit, and asked Wilkinson so much money for the licensig fee that the unit had to be discontinued. And I never found a convertible bridge on a Gibson guitar or on anything they had produced in the last 50 years. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:55 AM Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > sorry to be so cliche ridden,but -knowledge is power-ignorance is bliss-U > get what U pay 4 > > goinloopy > stanner > ---------- > >From: Richard Zvonar > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >Date: Sun, Jun 10, 2001, 2:04 PM > > > > >At 10:23 PM +0200 6/10/01, Martin Tauchen wrote: > > > >>If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products > >>were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed > >>there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was > >>released in 1983. > >>The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and > >>manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. > > > >Not ripped off in these cases. Yamaha has a long-standing set of > >licensing agreements with Stanford, dating to John Chowning's 1975 > >linear FM patent. Physical modeling was similarly licensed from > >Stanford. > > > >I'm not aware of any claims against Yamaha of infringement. In fact, > >my impression of the company is generally positive. They have a good > >reputation for supporting research and education, and I've personally > >found them (and by this I mean the individuals I've dealt with) to be > >cordial and even generous. > > > >In contrast, I have no such warm and fuzzy feelings for the rippers > >of the world, such as Behringer and Fernandes. > > > >That isn't to say there aren't problems. When Yamaha secured patents > >on linear FM applications to musical instrument design, this meant > >that other manufacturers were obliged to either pay them licensing > >fees or cease to use the technique in their own instruments. Some > >smaller manufacturers, such as Buchla, had already been using FM, but > >didn't think to apply for a patent. > > > >Another case that I have problems with is Coda's patents on > >interactive computer music and score following. They struck a deal > >with Roger Dannenberg, who had the foresight to secure a patent in > >1985, and Coda insisted that their patents applied to all score > >following algorithms. Other researchers who had independently arrived > >at score following were in theory obliged to pay Coda for a license. > >-- > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >Richard Zvonar, PhD > >(818) 788-2202 > >http://www.zvonar.com > >http://RZCybernetics.com > >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:13:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28201; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:36:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:36:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:25:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'm gonna chime in here right on the middle of the fence (and take a break from my newly appointed job as list moderator....right....with you crazy folks?). IMO, i don't really see a way out of this ethical fistfight without some really 'new' thought process being brought into the mix. the fusing of new paradigms ('digital duplication', 'generic', 'global economy', etc...) is a such a powerful combination these days. however admirable the opinions are on each side of the fence, IMO, they don't provide a satisfactory answer. should i feel guilty for my new Behringer mixer? for which part? for how they stole the design from Mackie? or for the Chinese labor? Would i have been better to buy the Mackie, for ethical reasons? whew...i don't know how many people do research on ethical electronics production. when i turn to my Black Panel #2 setting on my POD (based off a Black Face Fender Twin Reverb), should i feel some tug in my heart regarding Leo Fender? Pre-CBS, or post? But is Line6 more ethical than Behringer...who just 'stole' the POD idea? I like both Richard Zvonar's thoughts, as well as Italo's. 2cents, the list moderator formerly known as rich >>words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with >>mixers...ridiculous! > >You don't believe in professional ethics? > >If Company A spends a lot of money to design a piece of equipment >and then Company B simply copies the design and sells it at a lower >price, this is OK with you? > >Curious. >-- > >______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:34:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30397; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:14:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:14:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010611171334.40774.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:13:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> it would certainly interest me - i spend alot of time listening to streaming audio and i don't think there can ever be too much of a good thing - a streaming site dedicated to loop based music would be great - count me in (as a listener and possible contributor of music) - harry << Great. Depending on response we'll set up a show. So far you've been the only person to express interest Harry. Best Regards, Bruce __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30908; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:29:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:29:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001b01c0f27f$32a64620$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:20:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: echo-plus vs.Boss RC-20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the RC-20 does not have that sort of feedback control, a serious flaw imho. the jamman actually does have that ability, but only through midi in discrete settings. the gibson echoplex has a knob for continuous feedback control. (or you can use midi for the same.) I think the boomerang added some limited jamman-like feedback control in their new 2.0 version. the line6 dl-4 does not offer any feedback control either. kim > Is the RC-20 more like a jam man where you can create a loop and >layer it where if there's a mistake, you stop the loop and start again? >The Echo-plus will let the loop fade out when you release the "infinite >repeat" and lets you punch in a sound at any point during the fading out >of the loop. Does the RC-20 have that "delay pedal" capability? Am very >curious about its 5 minute capabilities though. Thanks--jehn ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:46:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30724; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:22:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:22:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Way OT What is Behringer doing in China? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:21:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 17:21:09.0260 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7B41CC0:01C0F29A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Has no one mentioned that besides the fact that they 'reverse engineer' >their products based on the hard work of others. They also manufacture at >least some of their products in China... I believe there's a few ethical >dilemmas involved in that particular approach to cutting costs via >dirt-cheap, underpaid, sweat shop labor? Food for thought... > Yeah it was mentioned, but I'm afraid the presence of goods manufactured in China is nearly ubiquitous now. I'd almost challenge you to see if you can go through any room of your house and not find one or more things that are manufactured in China. Doesn't necessarily make it any better to buy such products but I think its hard to avoid them these days (unless you simply refuse to buy anything that's got a low price tag and even then... I mean Nike shoes aren't exactly cheap) Kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:50:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31044; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:33:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:33:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:32:26 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: Way OT What is Behringer doing in China? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA31006 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Miko Biffle wrote... >> Has no one mentioned that besides the fact that they 'reverse engineer' their products based on the hard work of others. They also manufacture at least some of their products in China... I believe there's a few ethical dilemmas involved in that particular approach to cutting costs via dirt-cheap, underpaid, sweat shop labor? Food for thought... > Yeah it was mentioned, but I'm afraid the presence of goods manufactured in China is nearly ubiquitous now. I'd almost challenge you to see if you can go through any room of your house and not find one or more things that are manufactured in China. That's my point... you have to pick and choose before *everything* is manufactured offshore. > Doesn't necessarily make it any better to buy such products but I think its hard to avoid them these days (unless you simply refuse to buy anything that's got a low price tag and even then... I mean Nike shoes aren't exactly cheap) Kevin Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by China. -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:57:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30977; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:31:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:31:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:31:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c0f29c$67858f00$3f2f04d1@ij.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002601c0f296$4bcfce20$feae1597@m7w1f4> Resent-Message-ID: <1SL3_B.A.jjH.5AQJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On some of Gibson's lower priced LP's in the 80s, they used a Steinberger-designed tremolo that locked. I am guessing that is where the patent problems were. Also, Trev Wilkenson works for Patrick Eggle/Fret-King Guitars in England- contact them, maybe they will sell ya one. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://www.hazardfactor.com > > Just not to come back to old discussions - has anyone in here > ever heard > about the Wilkinson Vs100 Convertible guitar bridge? > Wilkinson created it, it could not be a technological > masterpiece, but it > was useful - a vibrato bridge that you could turn into a > fixed bridge just > by not using the vibrato arm - I'm still looking around for > one of these > beasts, as GIBSON decided to sue Wilkinson for copyright > infringement, as > they claimed that Gibson patented a very similar unit, and > asked Wilkinson > so much money for the licensig fee that the unit had to be > discontinued. And > I never found a convertible bridge on a Gibson guitar or on > anything they > had produced in the last 50 years. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:07:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31689; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:47:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:47:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <049601c0f29e$9571ed80$e30b6420@vaio> Reply-To: "Kevin Goldsmith" From: "Kevin Goldsmith" To: References: Subject: Re: Musician's Friend Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:28:39 -0700 Organization: Unit Circle Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 17:44:48.0360 (UTC) FILETIME=[358D9680:01C0F29E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks for the mail! I called MF and basically they told me that the orders that they are getting today are pitifully short of the people who ordered them so it looks like some of us won't be getting these units until mid-july or mid-august if we get them at all. This is pretty crappy of them. If I'd known it was going to be an extra month beyond what they told me originally, I would've gotten them at a store instead. Now all the stores are out and I'm stuck hoping I'll get these someday, but I doubt it. Kevin Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:09:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32104; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:56:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:56:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB317@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Way OT What is Behringer doing in China? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:51:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F29F.1EC17290" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F29F.1EC17290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by China. ** kids' toys made by kids in sweatshops . . . disheartening . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F29F.1EC17290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Way OT What is Behringer doing in China?

Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by China.

** kids' toys made by kids in sweatshops . . . disheartening . . .

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F29F.1EC17290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:13:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32075; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:54:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:54:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c0f29f$26ed9480$feae1597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <000101c0f29c$67858f00$3f2f04d1@ij.net> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:51:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A friend of mine had got one of them - the steinberg trem, just like many other steinbergs had a lever to stop it - pretty impractical compared to the wilkinson one in which you only had to drop the tremolo harm. Thanks for the advice on Trevor Wilkinson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "future perfect" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? > On some of Gibson's lower priced LP's in the 80s, they used a > Steinberger-designed tremolo that locked. I am guessing that is where > the patent problems were. Also, Trev Wilkenson works for Patrick > Eggle/Fret-King Guitars in England- contact them, maybe they will sell > ya one. > > Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices > http://www.hazardfactor.com > > > > > Just not to come back to old discussions - has anyone in here > > ever heard > > about the Wilkinson Vs100 Convertible guitar bridge? > > Wilkinson created it, it could not be a technological > > masterpiece, but it > > was useful - a vibrato bridge that you could turn into a > > fixed bridge just > > by not using the vibrato arm - I'm still looking around for > > one of these > > beasts, as GIBSON decided to sue Wilkinson for copyright > > infringement, as > > they claimed that Gibson patented a very similar unit, and > > asked Wilkinson > > so much money for the licensig fee that the unit had to be > > discontinued. And > > I never found a convertible bridge on a Gibson guitar or on > > anything they > > had produced in the last 50 years. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:20:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00931; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:01:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:01:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010611120514.00932500@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:05:14 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation In-Reply-To: <3B2406AE.1CBF3250@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <2tp0ED.A.fN.YdQJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Joe, I've actually had the same problem with another software package. what I di to solve it was simply to set the bpm of the software to that listed with the loop I wanted to import, and then import it. I then copied the loop into the program's clipboard using the correct numeric start and end points, I.E. if it was a four beat loop, I'd copy from measure 1, beat 1, tick, or subbeat 0, to measure 1, beat 4, tick 119. Obviously, your software's time indexing might be different, but I would think the concept would be the same. Anyway, having done that, I'd then paste the loop after the original, whatever number of times I'd like. Does this make sense? Smiles, G At 07:45 PM 6/10/01 -0400, you wrote: >All- > >Just started using Cubase (3.7). Need help with understanding sample >loops and "parts" in the audio editor. Why when importing a perfect >sample loop from a CD or from my audio editor (Sound Forge 4.5), can I >not get Cubase to loop the audio file perfectly just by butting copies >of the original against one another. There is always an audio pause as >Cubase moves from one copy to the next. Sanity is slipping away. Any >help would be a Godsend... > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:29:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01190; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:09:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:09:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010611140829.00a30ba0@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:10:10 -0400 To: loopers delight From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: nyc gig blurt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_10938377==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: <4ikPo.A.IS.YkQJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_10938377==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed loop til you droop: the pink pony presents another evening with anti:clockwise saturday june 16 10.00 -> 12.00 ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with mystical paintings of light by stimu/syst chris jordan the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston no cover ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_10938377==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
loop til you droop:

the pink pony presents
another evening with

anti:clockwise

saturday june 16
10.00 -> 12.00

ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with
mystical paintings of light by stimu/syst chris jordan

the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston
no cover

++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_10938377==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:37:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02133; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:31:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:31:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106111829.LAA09557@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:35:34 -0700 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So, if the ethical aspect of this doesn't bother you how about considering your own interest in quality equipment? If you support company A that did the hard work of research, design, and manufacturing then it is likely that company A will continue to produce excellent products for years to come. If you support company B that does no research or design then, sure, you get good cheap stuff but company A goes out of business and company B then has to find another company to rip off. Cheap stuff with no continuity between products. -Allan At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: >Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from >other companies as long as the equipment does the job, >and that's what it looks like you guys are saying. >So I think I'll go with the Behringer. =) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:37:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01799; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:26:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:26:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010611123044.0096ad00@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:30:44 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, etc In-Reply-To: <3B24D119.C1920DCD@home.com> References: <200106111033.GAA13619@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Joe, just to add something which might help, to my last post, in my case, the loops from the CD collection were in perfect time. I could loop them through windows media player, and they looped perfectly. The problem arose when I imported them into the other package. So, at least in my case, there wasn't actually any space at the beginning or end of each loop, it seemed to just be a little fluke with the software or clocks on the soundcard. so you might not have to do all that work. The solution I mentioned in my last post though took care of the problem nicely. The loops then looped perfectly again. anyway, good luck, -hope this helps. Smiles, Goddess At 10:09 AM 6/11/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation >Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:57:34 -0700 >From: >To: >Look closely at the wav to make sure there are no gaps at the ends- but the > issue is probably in the arrange window in Cubase- if the Song is not at the > same tempo of the loop it may not fit perfectly > I think you're right. Now I understand why Acid is such a popular tool, >considering that it performs this operation with far less effort. It looks >like I will have to go back and make sure all my tempos and sample rates >match up before proceeding with this remix. --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:39:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02248; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:34:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:34:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010611123820.00970140@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:38:20 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 In-Reply-To: <20010611171334.40774.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <7F03EB.A.7i.I8QJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bruce, I'd certainly be interested as well, both in viewing or playing in, such a performance. Have a great day! Smiles, Goddess At 10:13 AM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote: > >>> it would certainly interest me - i spend alot of >time listening to streaming >audio and i don't think there can ever be too much of >a good thing - a >streaming site dedicated to loop based music would be >great - count me in (as >a listener and possible contributor of music) - harry ><< > >Great. Depending on response we'll set up a show. So >far you've been the only person to express interest >Harry. > >Best Regards, >Bruce > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 >a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:40:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02319; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:36:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:36:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002801c0f2a5$e01b8740$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <000101c0f29c$67858f00$3f2f04d1@ij.net> <000901c0f29f$26ed9480$feae1597@m7w1f4> Subject: OT: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:39:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <33h8vC.A.4j.p-QJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I understand and support the concern- but I must say- not every person in China is a commie human rights abuser out for blood- they are real people with real needs and feelings etc- I don't think blocking out the entire country is a complete answer- just a thought to possibly temper the argument a bit- C From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 15:58:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05623; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:35:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:35:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Dylan B DeAnda" To: Subject: RE: nyc gig blurt Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:34:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0274_01C0F272.D2F6B130" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010611140829.00a30ba0@mail.pdfsystems.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0274_01C0F272.D2F6B130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know of any good performances in the San Fran area? Thanks for the info. D Thanks and Best Regards, Dylan B. DeAnda dylan@loudcloud.com 408-744-7678 -----Original Message----- From: anti:clockwise [mailto:anticlockwise@tensionheadache.org] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:10 AM To: loopers delight Subject: nyc gig blurt loop til you droop: the pink pony presents another evening with anti:clockwise saturday june 16 10.00 -> 12.00 ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with mystical paintings of light by stimu/syst chris jordan the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston no cover ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url ------=_NextPart_000_0274_01C0F272.D2F6B130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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loop til you droop:

the pink pony presents
another evening with

anti:clockwise

saturday june 16
10.00 -> 12.00

ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with
mystical paintings of light by stimu/syst chris jordan

the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston
no cover


++++++++
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------=_NextPart_000_0274_01C0F272.D2F6B130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 16:53:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08313; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:37:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:37:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: San Francisco gig blurt Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:36:29 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 20:36:30.0022 (UTC) FILETIME=[31D27660:01C0F2B6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: "Dylan B DeAnda" > >Anyone know of any good performances in the San Fran area? > >Thanks for the info. > >D I just mentioned this last week, but thanks for giving me the opening to post it again, both as a reminder and also because I'll be trying something new with this performance. I'll be doing a live improvisation show at Kimo's at 9 this wednesday (6/13). I'll be using a turntable, CD player, radio, and cassette player with some real-time sampling/looping devices to create unlikely (but hopefully beautiful) music. I'll also be adding some live television sounds to the mix, with the use of a simple invention of mine called the "signal glove". My performance will be 100% recycled content. There will be no drum machines or basslines. Kimo's is located at the corner of Polk street and Pine. My set is between Lambskin 13 (an electro-noise group) at 8, and Plum (a solo sax guy) at 10. Best, Matt Davignon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 17:46:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10793; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:24:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:24:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106112123.RAA10750@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:23:47 +0200 Subject: Yes Man! (was: AABA on JamMan) From: "Frank Bilsen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Here is a happy man! Listening to his AABA-loops made on the JamMan. Thanks folks (Rick, Dan, Gary, D.t/s-c) for all the advice you gave me. It made me think things over in a logical way and finally my first ideas turned out to be the best. Now, instead of being just a lurker on this list, I finally can contribute something to loopers with a Jamman. For those who are interested, I'll describe things below. Kim, maybe if you think it can be useful, you could put it on the JamMan pages of the Loopers-site?! I could make a midifile and send it to you, downloadable for us all. Just let me know. Here is what I did: "How to make AABA loops on the JamMan using Midi" 1. Download the midifile and get it into your Midi-sequencer. Channel 1 is reserved for program-change commands (CUES), TAP-commands and LAYER-commands. Channel 10 is reserved for a clicktrack (Agogo-bells in a General Midi setup). Put the tempo to 60 or more. 2. Do *not* use the normal clicktrack generated by your sequencer. The JamMan is a little lazy, so in order to get smooth transitions between loops it is essential that you fool yourself by listening to a pushy click, which you will find on channel 10. I actually shifted it 70 midi-clocks forward. You'd probably just need it for the first 2 AABA's, then you could put your headphones off. 3. Connect any Midi-device (master) that can send Midi-clock to the Midi-in of the JamMan (slave). You should see the tempo-light start flickering like hell. Good. 4. Put the MODE knob into Phrased Loop with 16 Midi-quarter notes. 5. Check your MIX and OUTPUT settings, then lower the INPUT knob all the way down to zero. 6. Start your sequencer from the beginning. A *silent* Loop 1 is recorded and then "played". Loop 2 is cued and "recorded". While loop 2 is "playing" silently, turn up the input knob to a good level and prepare to play. 7. Play your first A (8 bars). 8. Listen to your second A, which starts automatically and prepare to play. 9. Play your B. 10. Listen to your third A and prepare to go back to step 6. 11. Groove! With love from Holland! Frank -- The Music Lab Frank Bilsen Timmermanswerf 6 1474 JL Oosthuizen Netherlands tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 fax: 0299-404834 e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl site: http://home.planet.nl/~musiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:07:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13979; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:46:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:46:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <36.17205cf7.2856a3cc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:44:28 EDT Subject: Re: echo-plus vs.Boss RC-20 + rang To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_36.17205cf7.2856a3cc_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <_bVbQD.A.6ZD.unUJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_36.17205cf7.2856a3cc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 1:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kflint@loopers-delight.com writes: > I think the boomerang added > "no decay (infinite repeat)" "original decay, very long (over 20 repeats)" "long (about 12 repeats)" "medium long (about 9 repeats)" "medium (about 6 repeats" "short (about 4 repeats)" "slapback, 1 repeat only" kim.....if we are on the same page.....these are the "feedback" (decay rate) settings on the rang 2.0....."limited jamman-like", i dont know.....michael p.s. one can never have enuf of the loopers --part1_36.17205cf7.2856a3cc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 1:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kflint@loopers-delight.com writes:


I think the boomerang added
some limited jamman-like feedback control in their new 2.0 version.


"no decay (infinite repeat)"
"original decay, very long (over 20 repeats)"
"long (about 12 repeats)"
"medium long (about 9 repeats)"
"medium (about 6 repeats"
"short (about 4 repeats)"
"slapback, 1 repeat only"

kim.....if we are on the same page.....these are the "feedback" (decay rate)
settings on the rang 2.0....."limited jamman-like", i dont know.....michael
p.s. one can never have enuf of the loopers
--part1_36.17205cf7.2856a3cc_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:15:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15302; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:00:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:00:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.162d53e7.2856a75f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:59:43 EDT Subject: Re: Way OT What is Looper's Delite doing in China? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7a.162d53e7.2856a75f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_7a.162d53e7.2856a75f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 1:33:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike.Biffle@asml.com writes: > Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by > China. > > isnt it true that they are the largest "english" speaking country in the world?.....michael --part1_7a.162d53e7.2856a75f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 1:33:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Mike.Biffle@asml.com writes:

Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by
China.

-Miko


isnt it true that they are the largest "english" speaking country in the
world?.....michael
--part1_7a.162d53e7.2856a75f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:26:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15447; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:04:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:04:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11c.273a61.2856a843@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:03:31 EDT Subject: Re: nyc gig blurt To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11c.273a61.2856a843_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_11c.273a61.2856a843_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 2:09:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anticlockwise@tensionheadache.org writes: > ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with > how could you say no!.....michael --part1_11c.273a61.2856a843_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 2:09:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
anticlockwise@tensionheadache.org writes:


ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with
mystical paintings of light


how could you say no!.....michael
--part1_11c.273a61.2856a843_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:37:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16320; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:25:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:25:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: <66.1019adfa.2856ad53@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:25:07 EDT Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_66.1019adfa.2856ad53_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_66.1019adfa.2856ad53_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please keep me apprised - harry --part1_66.1019adfa.2856ad53_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please keep me apprised - harry --part1_66.1019adfa.2856ad53_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:39:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16462; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:29:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:29:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Way OT What is Looper's Delite doing in China? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:27:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 23:27:59.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[26930D10:01C0F2CE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes. >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Way OT What is Looper's Delite doing in China? >Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:59:43 EDT > >In a message dated 6/11/01 1:33:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >Mike.Biffle@asml.com writes: > > > Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated >by > > China. > > > > > >isnt it true that they are the largest "english" speaking country in the >world?.....michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:45:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16918; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:40:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:40:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0f2cf$ae9498e0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <66.1019adfa.2856ad53@aol.com> Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:38:50 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F2D8.0CA56EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F2D8.0CA56EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ditto, I'm on ArtistLanch already...! One of the better alternatives to = mp3.com if you ask me. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: HarryEsq@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: 12 June 2001 00:25 AM Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220=20 please keep me apprised - harry=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F2D8.0CA56EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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please keep me apprised - = harry=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F2D8.0CA56EC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:49:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16549; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:31:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:31:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:30:35 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: Way OT What is Looper's Delite doing in China? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id TAA16511 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mike.Biffle@asml.com writes: >> Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by China. > isnt it true that they are the largest "english" speaking country in the world?.....michael We may have to go there to find decent jobs when our local businesses all go under do to the competition! Glad they talk the talk... -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 20:08:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18722; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:03:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:03:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B255BC5.FC437EF1@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:01:08 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: my JamMan question. References: <200106110704.DAA06996@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com very simple. The JamMan is incapable of making loops of different lengths. Mark Sottilaro The Music Lab wrote: > Hi there! > > Okay, I know, the JamMan is not the newest looping device around, but many > of us are still using it and feeling happy about it. I just recently got > mine, so I am pretty new to looping. Also I have basically just been lurking > on the loopers-delight list. Last thursday I have posted to the list with > some questions about trying to make an AABA scheme on the JamMan. So far, > nobody replied. I understand that maybe I am asking to much, but I am > dedicated to make it work in some way. More stupid even is the fact that > I've committed myself to do an AABA-style loop performance next wednesday, > here in Holland, without even getting things right technically...yes: > stupid! So you guys out there, being a really dedicated looping-community, > please be so kind to help me out on this one!! Thanks so much, > > Frank > > Below are my JamMan questions: > > I am trying to play an AABA scheme with my JamMan (32 sec.), but I am not > succesful so far. > > I would like to record loop 1 (the first A) as follows: 4 bars in tempo 60 > with 16 midi quarter notes in punch in loop mode, actually resulting in a 8 > bars loop in tempo 120 with 32 quarter notes). Then loop 1 should be > repeated (no layering, just playing) to form the second A. After that loop 2 > should be recorded to form the B. Finally our first loop 1 comes back to > form the third A. So this would buid an AABA scheme, which I would like to > repeat a couple of times, each time adding new sounds to the first A and the > B. > > I've tried to do this with the sequencer being the master and the Jamman as > a slave. I am programming in Logic on my Mac.I would like to copy the final > sequence in Logic to a stand alone sequencer (Yamaha QY70) which I could > take with me on stage to drive the JamMan. I would like to use a headphone > with a clicktrack for the first 2 or 3 choruses. > I have found out that after recording the B (loop 2), there is no way of > cuing the JamMan in order to continue playing loop 1 straight away. It wants > to play loop 2 first. Well Okay....in that case I've decided to first get > both loops in the Jamman by lowering the input knob to zero and start the > sequencer. I programmed a Tap on the first beat of bar1 and it records loop > 1 (4 bars, tempo 60), it plays loop1 and then goes into recording loop 2 > with the same lenght. I let play loop 2 (which is silent, since the input > knob is on zero) and raise the input knob to a good level. I cue loop 1 and > start playing my instrument and recording my first A. It then starts playing > the second A, I cue loop2 and sometimes it goes into record mode and > sometimes not. Then things are getting messy and out of sync. I've tried > dozens of diffent Tap commands but the JamMan just does what it likes. > MY JAMMAN-SLAVE QUESTIONS: > *is there someone who has already made a midi-file which can do an AABA > scheme? > *Could I record a click and then shift it forward to sound in sync. Will > there be any cutoffs on my recordings? > > So, not being succesful I want to try and use the JamMan as the master > controlling the sequencer. Before I spend another 20 hours on finding out > how to do this, could someone tell me the secret??? > > Thanks for reading all this. Help greatly appreciated! > > Frank Bilsen > > -- > The Music Lab > Frank Bilsen > Netherlands > tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 > fax: 0299-404834 > e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl > site: http://welcome.to/themusiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 22:01:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA23186; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:59:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:59:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010611200324.007cc280@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:03:24 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: echo-plus vs.Boss RC-20 + rang In-Reply-To: <36.17205cf7.2856a3cc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Actually, if this is what it does, it's quite a bit more than the Jam-Man which only has three levels of decay. short, medium, and long. I'm not sure about the actual number of repeats. anyway, -just a little FYI... Smiles, G At 06:44 PM 6/11/01 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/11/01 1:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >kflint@loopers-delight.com writes: > > >I think the boomerang added >some limited jamman-like feedback control in their new 2.0 version. > > >"no decay (infinite repeat)" >"original decay, very long (over 20 repeats)" >"long (about 12 repeats)" >"medium long (about 9 repeats)" >"medium (about 6 repeats" >"short (about 4 repeats)" >"slapback, 1 repeat only" > >kim.....if we are on the same page.....these are the "feedback" (decay rate) >settings on the rang 2.0....."limited jamman-like", i dont know.....michael >p.s. one can never have enuf of the loopers --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 22:05:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23343; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:04:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:04:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: Applause {Long; was RE: Yes Man! (was: AABA on JamMan)} Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:03:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200106112123.RAA10750@hemlock.violacea.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My hat is off to you for this accomplishment--it sounds like a lot of trouble, but the important thing is that you can do it, in time for your gig--might wanna check out another looper at some point, however. Congratulations! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bilsen [mailto:musiclab@planet.nl] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Yes Man! (was: AABA on JamMan) Here is a happy man! Listening to his AABA-loops made on the JamMan. Thanks folks (Rick, Dan, Gary, D.t/s-c) for all the advice you gave me. It made me think things over in a logical way and finally my first ideas turned out to be the best. Now, instead of being just a lurker on this list, I finally can contribute something to loopers with a Jamman. For those who are interested, I'll describe things below. Kim, maybe if you think it can be useful, you could put it on the JamMan pages of the Loopers-site?! I could make a midifile and send it to you, downloadable for us all. Just let me know. Here is what I did: "How to make AABA loops on the JamMan using Midi" 1. Download the midifile and get it into your Midi-sequencer. Channel 1 is reserved for program-change commands (CUES), TAP-commands and LAYER-commands. Channel 10 is reserved for a clicktrack (Agogo-bells in a General Midi setup). Put the tempo to 60 or more. 2. Do *not* use the normal clicktrack generated by your sequencer. The JamMan is a little lazy, so in order to get smooth transitions between loops it is essential that you fool yourself by listening to a pushy click, which you will find on channel 10. I actually shifted it 70 midi-clocks forward. You'd probably just need it for the first 2 AABA's, then you could put your headphones off. 3. Connect any Midi-device (master) that can send Midi-clock to the Midi-in of the JamMan (slave). You should see the tempo-light start flickering like hell. Good. 4. Put the MODE knob into Phrased Loop with 16 Midi-quarter notes. 5. Check your MIX and OUTPUT settings, then lower the INPUT knob all the way down to zero. 6. Start your sequencer from the beginning. A *silent* Loop 1 is recorded and then "played". Loop 2 is cued and "recorded". While loop 2 is "playing" silently, turn up the input knob to a good level and prepare to play. 7. Play your first A (8 bars). 8. Listen to your second A, which starts automatically and prepare to play. 9. Play your B. 10. Listen to your third A and prepare to go back to step 6. 11. Groove! With love from Holland! Frank -- The Music Lab Frank Bilsen Timmermanswerf 6 1474 JL Oosthuizen Netherlands tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 fax: 0299-404834 e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl site: http://home.planet.nl/~musiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 05:12:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08036; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:09:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:09:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <107.128c981.28573611@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:08:33 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So why are people really down on Behringer? There's no evidence as to how they treat their Chinese employees. And there doesn't appear to be a proven case of them ripping off circuits that weren't public domain. Seems to me that they try to make products that are either similar to something already on the market, but improved. (Ok, and/or cheaper). Seems to me that Mackie enjoyed an inflated reputation prior to Behringer, I tried their mixers and thought they were just another cheapo variety. after Behringer they've redesigned their products, (claiming a massive improvement in pre-amp quality) I'd call this healthy competition. It seemed that after Behringer introduced compressors with auto-settng that a whole load of other companies copied them, they've also produced gear with no equivalents elsewhere. Not that I'm pro-Behringer (apart from buying some of their stuff), but I'm interested as to why they are picked out as being particularly unethical as compared to other companies (Lexicon MPX100 "made in PRC") Well if they do ever bring out a looper????? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 06:31:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA12414; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:29:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:29:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-230.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.230] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010612123018.00799100@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:30:18 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: sync plex question In-Reply-To: <001601c0f23b$692ca660$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> References: <3B2406AE.1CBF3250@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <0q8R-D.A.oBD.F7eJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:57 p.m. 10/06/01 -0700, you wrote: i'd like to know which computer based setup are some of you using to sync with the plex. thanks in advance, Junkie G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 07:58:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16184; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:55:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:55:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0f336$dc6ba6c0$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:57:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gee, hope this isn't too far off topic, but where did all of the san francisco music-makers go? Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "matt davignon" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:36 PM Subject: San Francisco gig blurt > >From: "Dylan B DeAnda" > > > >Anyone know of any good performances in the San Fran area? > > > >Thanks for the info. > > > >D > > I just mentioned this last week, but thanks for giving me the opening to > post it again, both as a reminder and also because I'll be trying something > new with this performance. > > I'll be doing a live improvisation show at Kimo's at 9 this wednesday > (6/13). I'll be using a turntable, CD player, radio, and cassette player > with some real-time sampling/looping devices to create unlikely (but > hopefully beautiful) music. I'll also be adding some live television sounds > to the mix, with the use of a simple invention of mine called the "signal > glove". My performance will be 100% recycled content. There will be no drum > machines or basslines. > > Kimo's is located at the corner of Polk street and Pine. My set is between > Lambskin 13 (an electro-noise group) at 8, and Plum (a solo sax guy) at 10. > > Best, > > Matt Davignon > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 09:30:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21094; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:26:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:26:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:26:28 -0500 Subject: gig spam: Shrub Monkeys play BWAC pier show closing party Sat June 16 Red Hook, Brooklyn, NY From: Paul Sullivan To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As stated above, list members Paul Sullivan (guitars, boomerang, dl-4, echo plus, etc.) and David Weeks (saxophones, dl-4, etc.) together with drummer Don Peretz, collectively known as Shrub Monkeys, will be playing at the Brooklyn Working Artists Coalition pier show closing party this Saturday night, June 16, from 5 to 8 pm. The music is original, improvised jazz/ambient with significant loopage. This is the 9th year of the BWAC pier show, where hundreds of local artists exhibit their work in a huge civil-war era warehouse on the waterfront in Red Hook, Brooklyn. Come early to check out the artwork, the beautiful view from the promenade with a birds-eye view of the Statue of Liberty, and stay for the music, auction, raffles, food and drink, etc. Admission is free. For directions and more info, go to Hope to see some local list members! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 10:33:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25400; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:31:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:31:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:30:05 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <90.15a7fd6f.2857816d@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com There's some interesting stuff on Behringer at the following website. Just do a search on Behringer when there. There are some interesting posts regarding the lawsuit Aphex vs Behringer and lots of other interesting comments. http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/deja_announcement.html Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 11:08:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27989; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:06:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:06:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010612110424.009726e0@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: floyd@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:06:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: Random Music Generator Software Questions In-Reply-To: <6e.b232173.284c5129@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <3h4AKB.A.40G.j_iJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:49 PM 6/3/01 -0400, pascal wrote: >Hi Everybody! > >I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my >rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music. I've >been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko. I have two questions. > >1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? http://www.metasynth.com/ for Macintosh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 11:23:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28618; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:15:09 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Behringer In-reply-to: <107.128c981.28573611@aol.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <107.128c981.28573611@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:08 AM -0400 6/12/01, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >So why are people really down on Behringer? >There's no evidence as to how they treat their Chinese employees. >And there doesn't appear to be a proven case of them ripping >off circuits that weren't public domain. I refer you to a letter from Marvin Caesar, founder and president of Aphex. According to Caesar, the Aphex Aural Exciter was the first product design Behringer ripped off, right down to copying the manual. Aphex's suit against Behringer was indeed settled in court, in Aphex's favor: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=behringer&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=2&ic=1&selm=7f5aop%24ukk%241%40nnrp1.dejanews.com -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 11:54:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30185; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:49:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:49:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <107.128c981.28573611@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:46:50 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Behringer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA30140 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: Richard Zvonar >At 5:08 AM -0400 6/12/01, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >>So why are people really down on Behringer? >>There's no evidence as to how they treat their Chinese employees. >>And there doesn't appear to be a proven case of them ripping >>off circuits that weren't public domain. > >I refer you to a letter from Marvin Caesar, founder and president of >Aphex. According to Caesar, the Aphex Aural Exciter was the first >product design Behringer ripped off, right down to copying the >manual. Aphex's suit against Behringer was indeed settled in court, >in Aphex's favor: > >http://groups.google.com/groups?q=behringer&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=2 >&ic=1&selm=7f5aop%24ukk%241%40nnrp1.dejanews.com This article is pretty shocking. >The manual, being so blatant a copy, caused people >who bought the Behringer copy to call our distributor in Germany for service. > >Behringer's attack on our products >was not limited to the Aural Exciter. He tried to copy our 612 gate. He could >not get our VCA so he used the VCA that we had used previously. We had to use >a heat spreader on our new VCA which was not necessary on the previous >design. Behringer glued a useless piece of metal on his VCA's showing that he >either did not understand what was going on in the unit, only making a poor >copy of it, or he simply tried to copy as exactly as possible. He also copied >our manual- page for page, illustration for illustration. The court >immediately issued an order for him to stop and reimbursed us for our legal >fees. that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 12:22:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32451; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:18:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:18:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:15:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Behringer From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA32404 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I can not follow the arguments to beat on Behringer,like it is an ugly alien. Ethics in buisiness is already a question for itself wich could lead us to endless debates.A so called infinity loop. But we should realize,that each buisiness affair of the western world has a bunch full of ethical problems.Especially the relation between the so called "first(western world) to the "Third world" has massive ethical problems.In short it could be said,that the western world rips of most re- sources of the "third world" for really a cheap and shameless money.From this resources the "First world" makes products wich it sells itself to the own group,but also for an highly amount price back to the "Third World".Most people there can not afford these products.Problematic and mostly egoistic gouverments of the "Third World" prefer it to buy from the "first world" weaponary. The poor and powerless labour in each country is not of interest to them.SO why can it be,that cheap medecine(for the western world) is still not affordable for the labour in the "third world". This is really an ethical problem. It makes also no sense to lower down the prices for the "third world",maybe their gouverments(wich are mostly corrupt) would maybe reimport them to the western world.Cheaper as the original price for the western world,but with a high profit for the "Third world gouverment".From this win,they buy again weaponary. It makes also no sense to wish China to Hell.The political system there is also only overlayed structure and display.But so called democracies of the third world are political different displayed as China.But the daily life of the poor labour has the same quality in both systems. It makes no sense to boykott China and let the Phillipines take part on the global market. The situation for the poor labour is in both systems the same.Because they are not part of the "First World"-wich is merely dominated by the angloamerican,westeuropean and japanese society. 10% of the human citizens controls and uses 90% of the earth ressources. Where is here the ethic ? And from an ecological view,where is the ethic of the US,when they avoid to sign the Agenda21 of Kyoto ? We all know,that all this dirt form the "first world" will be flushed down to the third world.With all its negative aspects. What has this all to do with Behringer ? At least not much,but also all.Behringer is a part of the "first world" system. But to mention,that Behringer is a copycat company wich only rips of the poor "Mackie" is a fairy tale for children.There we need always a "bad" character. In this story is to much black and white tracing and far away from reality. Well,I know much better Mixing Consoles as Mackies.Mackie is in my eyes also a cheapo producer. The way how an mixing console works is already explained and described for a long time.So this knowledge is a kind of Public Domain.Like a traditional song,where no one knows who was its first author. Designing a mixing console is a creative work.But at least it is also a patchwork.Or does Mackie produces the Faders with a special patent ? Not like that,they buy maybe ALP Faders or an equalizer unit from Phillips.Just and example.....And at least the resistors inside will come from all over the world. Form this ingredients they develop their own receipt and assemble the console. Behringer does it the same.But both companies do not start from Zero to reinvent the Mixing Console. Behringer looks how Mackie designed the Console.Like Mackie inverstigated from other companies products how to make a good design.I call this more Influencing and inspiration.But not ripping. Important is,how this companies operate in the buisiness.Behringer in the low cost market and Mackie one storage up of Behringer. Both companies have to make compromises.Behringer more as Mackie.But this is more an economic question depending on the Endprices. I don´t speak here about Quality of the products.I don´t use wether Behringer nor Mackie Mixing Consoles.Both are in my ears cheapo,but for the ones who can use them-and I am sure they are both usable-it is OK.That I use an uper class console was my subjective decision,that this one fits to me. The only thing wich makes me a little upset,is the direction where such commentaris about Behringer points to.It is not fair,tho throw with stones on one company and to praise up the other to heaven.Like an innocent Madonna...This is to far away from realism. Mackie also ripped a lot of other companies products.But this is no reason to damm them. They got inspired and influenced by those companies.There is nothing wrong in such practice. A mixing console nothing new or something wich needs special protection.The shematic is already clear.And most consoles work and look like all the others. And at least,to offer more low cost products,Mackie could go the same or similiar way like Behringer. I guess the managment of Mackie does not trace it as "Ethical Problem" if Behringer gets some inspiration of Mackie.It is only a marketing and operating problemn for them. Marty ---------- >Von: SoundFNR@aol.com >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: Behringer >Datum: Die, 12. Jun 2001 11:08 Uhr > >So why are people really down on Behringer? >There's no evidence as to how they treat their Chinese employees. >And there doesn't appear to be a proven case of them ripping >off circuits that weren't public domain. > > >Seems to me that they try to make products >that are either similar to something already on the market, >but improved. (Ok, and/or cheaper). > >Seems to me that Mackie enjoyed an inflated reputation >prior to Behringer, I tried their mixers and thought >they were just another cheapo variety. > >after Behringer they've redesigned their products, >(claiming a massive improvement in pre-amp quality) >I'd call this healthy competition. > > >It seemed that after Behringer introduced compressors >with auto-settng that a whole load of other >companies copied them, they've also produced >gear with no equivalents elsewhere. > >Not that I'm pro-Behringer (apart from buying some of their stuff), >but I'm interested as to why they are picked out as >being particularly unethical as compared to other companies >(Lexicon MPX100 "made in PRC") > >Well if they do ever bring out a looper????? > >andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 12:40:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00686; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:37:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:37:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005c01c0f370$1fd7d8a0$f99a46cf@txucom.net> From: "T. Peirce Baker" To: Subject: Behringer Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:47:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01C0F335.72F2B9A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C0F335.72F2B9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How long is this gonna go on?!?! We all have something in our racks = whose source of technology is questionable. It's rampant and always has = been. geez ever had dealings with a major label? ethics? pleeez Can we = just acknowledge it's there and move on with the music? Every time one = of us comes up with an original riff, song, whatever, a close variation = or exact note or rhythm place has already been performed by someone = else!=20 As far as I am concerned Behringer's problems are theirs not mine. I = just wanna rock.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C0F335.72F2B9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How long is this gonna go on?!?! We all = have=20 something in our racks whose source of technology is questionable. It's = rampant=20 and always has been. geez ever had dealings with a major label? ethics? = pleeez=20 Can we just acknowledge it's there and move on with the music? Every = time one of=20 us comes up with an original riff, song, whatever, a close variation or = exact=20 note or rhythm place has already been performed by someone else! =
As far as I am concerned Behringer's = problems are=20 theirs not mine. I just wanna rock. 
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C0F335.72F2B9A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:01:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01448; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:57:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:57:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> References: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:48:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Behringer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Designing a mixing console is a creative work.But at least it is also a >patchwork.Or does Mackie >produces the Faders with a special patent ? Not like that,they buy maybe ALP >Faders or an equalizer >unit from Phillips.Just and example.....And at least the resistors inside >will come from all over >the world. >Form this ingredients they develop their own receipt and assemble the >console. That is true of ANY device, computer program, even song that you create, but it doesn't render your intellectual property valueless. >Behringer does it the same.But both companies do not start from Zero to >reinvent the Mixing Console. >Behringer looks how Mackie designed the Console.Like Mackie inverstigated >from other companies >products how to make a good design.I call this more Influencing and >inspiration.But not ripping. Let me explain this in terms of a song. If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix, that's perfect acceptable. BUT, if I try to release a recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from Hendrix' estate. In the same way, making a mixer that "works like" a Mackie is perfectly OK, ethically and legally. That's how innovation occurs, you copy the *features* that other people introduce and improve on them. But copying the specific *design* of the mixer is totally different. That's theft! That's like reprinting Purple Haze as your song! In the Behringer case, they not only copied the design in every point, they even copied mistakes and unnecessary parts, so they didn't even bothed to figure out HOW it worked properly. It's like covering a Hendrix tune and coughing when he did because you have no idea that the cough isn't part of the song because you just stole it. >Mackie also ripped a lot of other companies products.But this is no reason >to damm them. It sure is if they did. Do tell us details? >They got inspired and influenced by those companies.There is nothing wrong >in such practice. Right, there is nothing wrong with being inspired and being influenced by some other product. Behringer is essentially photocopying the works of others. A totally different issue! >And at least,to offer more low cost products,Mackie could go the same or >similiar way like >Behringer. The point is that since Mackie has to pay a LOT of money to get the designs made, if Behringer does NOT, then Behringer will ALWAYS be able to sell their products a lot cheaper than Mackie. For example, suppose you released a CD and someone else released the same CD just by copying yours! Since their only costs are the reproduction, whereas you have to pay the studio costs, musicians, gear, and your own time, they can certainly sell your CD a lot cheaper than you can. So, why shouldn't I just get the CD from them? ----- For some reason this argument has broken down into US vs rest of the world and I can't quite see why. I'm not an American myself, and there are plenty of foreign musical companies that are beacons of creativity to us all (Yamaha, TC, Waldorf without even thinking). But it's clear to me and should have nothing to do with country boundaries: it's perfectly OK to be inspired by the work of others. to make a perfect, mindless copy of the work of others is theft. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:12:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02904; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:09:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:09:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:04:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: sorry (was Re: Behringer) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this really had nothing to do with looping. sorry. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:28:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03400; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:22:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:22:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006a01c0f363$fad5c780$a3b41597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:20:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <_Tg0wB.A.V0.t-kJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com List...... seriously looping on this Behringer thread!!! Please Damon...put out Repeater or we die here!!! ;-) Italoop From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:30:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03574; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:27:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:27:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:26:46 -0400 From: "Lily & Jason" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: neutral.milk.hotel@eudoramail.com X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: For Sale: Stick and VG8 X-Sender-Ip: 132.239.188.61 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com FOR SALE: (1) 12-string Grand Stick (15 months old) in mint/like new condition. Tuned to the Standard 6+6 tuning, with heavy gauge strings. Fitted with the active Block pickup module (which was a $180 addition) & a GK2A customized Roland MIDI interface system on the melody side (a $460 addition). Also includes BOTH a hardcase and a gig bag. New, this package would run someone $2650 before tax ($2868 with California sales tax). Yours for $1800 plus shipping. (2) VG8 with expansion card and gig bag. $400 plus shipping. --- Jason & Lily Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:31:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03405; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:22:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:22:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010612172212.50162.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: dave@artistlaunch.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stephen, thanks for the endorsement. We need as many loopers as possible to sustain a show. As things are going I may just have a special broadcast monthly or some other time interval. I will keep everyone informed. Bruce From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 Ditto, I'm on ArtistLanch already...! One of the better alternatives to mp3.com if you ask me. ----- Original Message ----- From: HarryEsq@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: 12 June 2001 00:25 AM Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 please keep me apprised - harry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:59:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04717; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:58:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:58:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2658DE.E971AE01@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:01:04 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com matt davignon wrote: > ...I'll also be adding some live television sounds > to the mix, with the use of a simple invention of mine called the "signal > glove". My performance will be 100% recycled content. There will be no drum > machines or basslines. > > Kimo's is located at the corner of Polk street and Pine. My set is between > Lambskin 13 (an electro-noise group) at 8, and Plum (a solo sax guy) at > 10... sounds great, matt. good luck! lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 14:47:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07112; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:45:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:45:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010612184510.55912.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:45:10 -0700 (PDT) From: pete brunelli Subject: FS: Rockman Midipedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <9t4sr.A.-uB.3MmJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Loopers, I have a nice clean Rockman Midipedal for sale. Built Like a tank and sends all 128 program change commands on all 16 channels. I haven't used it in a while, so off it goes to a more attentive home. No Wall-Wart! 120V all the way. see http://www.synthony.com/vintage/rockmnmidipdl.html for a description, and http://home.dal.net/pcb/apix/rmanmidi.jpg for a jpeg of the actual unit. $150 shipped in ConUSA Pete Brunelli __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 14:54:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07406; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:53:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:53:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Sender: simran@phys-ha2mpka-16.Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: <3B2664F7.72B23350@Sun.COM> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:52:39 -0700 From: Simran gleason Reply-To: Simran.Gleason@Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76C-CCK-MCD Netscape [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: simran@Sun.COM Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, now I get to chiime in with a gig spam. This one is a little more than 24 hours before Matt's performance at Kimo's. Inkstone and Mixtape from Mars vs the BurningMan precompression show at the Exploratorium. Every year about this time, YLEM, our local art & technology organization puts on a show of (some of) the art that happens at BurningMan. There will be lectures; there will be slide shows; there will probably be videos; there will be crowds and perhapshem (one notch down from mayhem?) This all happens at the exploratorium, at the McBean theatre (i.e. not quite enough seats for the roiling crowd). And before, between, and after, I will be playing music along with random members of my band "Mixtape From Mars." I will have my loopers set up through my battery-powered sound system featuring the PAliens -- they're PA speakers; they're alien sculptures. I have to warn y'all, though: I acquired a vocoder in the recent electrix fiasco at guitar center, so I'm now considered armed & dangerous. Simran stats: Exploratorium, by the palace of fine arts, San Francisco tuesday june 12. 7 pm to 11:30 pm. I'm playing before, at intermission, and afterwards. yee haW! > > Gee, hope this isn't too far off topic, but where did all of the san > francisco music-makers go? > > Jehn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "matt davignon" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:36 PM > Subject: San Francisco gig blurt > > > > >From: "Dylan B DeAnda" > > > > > >Anyone know of any good performances in the San Fran area? > > > > > >Thanks for the info. > > > > > >D > > > > I just mentioned this last week, but thanks for giving me the opening to > > post it again, both as a reminder and also because I'll be trying > something > > new with this performance. > > > > I'll be doing a live improvisation show at Kimo's at 9 this wednesday > > (6/13). I'll be using a turntable, CD player, radio, and cassette player > > with some real-time sampling/looping devices to create unlikely (but > > hopefully beautiful) music. I'll also be adding some live television > sounds > > to the mix, with the use of a simple invention of mine called the "signal > > glove". My performance will be 100% recycled content. There will be no > drum > > machines or basslines. > > > > Kimo's is located at the corner of Polk street and Pine. My set is between > > Lambskin 13 (an electro-noise group) at 8, and Plum (a solo sax guy) at > 10. > > > > Best, > > > > Matt Davignon > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 14:57:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07542; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:55:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:55:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQnbR5Xyugt7GkqJtPMRoeAG7MPEwIUZdapzXfWE8wSmvrjlNTX+80y8Jk= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:54:52 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: my JamMan question. Message-ID: <10102-3B26657C-2655@storefull-615.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Mark Sottilaro 's message of Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:01:08 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In reference to " The Jam Man is incapable of making loops of different lengths...." One thought. WE are capable of playing "loops" of different lengths - and as importantly - of contributing silence at the end of shorter loops until they fill out the longer length of the longest loop in which we are playing all the way through. Now, I know this won't always be helpful - but it will be in some cases. What I am saying is this: The longest loop you need will invariably ( on the Jam Man, anyway) determine the loop length for all loops. Let's say that's 4 bars. You could record another 4 bar loop in which you only PLAY for the first 2 bars. Doing this you allow the loop to play by itself for the first 2 bars and then improvise 2 bars for the last bars of the loop. Its a "dueling Banjo" kind of thing - but its one more neat way to use the Jam Man. Hope that helps some. James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 16:18:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10007; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:48:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:48:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FDC@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: loopers Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:53:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: <4VA8fC.A.AcC.ZHnJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Any loopers in the NYC area? I hear Oblaat is playing at Tonic next Thursday (7/21). Any one else know of any shows going on? Where are the local loop hangouts? thanx, -nikki From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 17:52:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14877; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:47:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:47:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B268D6C.316@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:46:18 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Eventide H3000 SE for sale References: <3AA0096E.B21FE631@altruistmusic.com> <3.0.5.32.20010304073828.007cc660@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Everyone, Eventide H3000SE "kitchen sink" model for sale. stereo sampling,string modeler,Steve Vai presets,synth,great pich shifting,etc.etc... excellent condition 1200.00 obo. Thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 17:52:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14939; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:49:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:49:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <72.b94e252.2857e800@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:47:44 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com many days ago, PaulPokr@aol.com writes: >Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? so, uh..... huh? dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 18:02:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15244; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:57:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:57:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003501c0f38a$85ecd0e0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3AA0096E.B21FE631@altruistmusic.com> <3.0.5.32.20010304073828.007cc660@pop.ici.net> <3B268D6C.316@earthlink.net> Subject: Request for a Test? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:56:17 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Folks, I've a favor to ask - yeah, what else is new eh? - But I'm testing out some streaming things and would like to know how this link works for you. Be sure to let me know what kind of connection you're using. http://www.earthlight.net/MmmmTest.html Stephen. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 18:27:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16885; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:23:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:23:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FDC@n22.natureny.com> References: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FDC@n22.natureny.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:23:07 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Fournier, Nicole" a ecrit: >Any loopers in the NYC area? I hear Oblaat is playing at Tonic next Thursday >(7/21). Any one else know of any shows going on? Where are the local loop >hangouts? That'd be 6/21! There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to the same organized level as on the west coast! on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on Saturday night at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. and tons of people off the list. (quick plug -- for art and music events, subscribe to the extreme NY music and art calendar list, or look at it online: ). So what sort of looping do you do? /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 18:40:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17304; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:38:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:38:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.118.136] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: david@awdsf.com Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 Pro Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:37:30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2001 22:37:30.0834 (UTC) FILETIME=[44043320:01C0F390] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

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    ·Sound Forge® XP Studio 5.0 (a $99 value) and
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----Original Message Follows----
From: David Lieberman
Reply-To: David Lieberman
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 Pro
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:16:09 -0700
Sorry to bother you again. I followed the link you sent me, but the listed price was 399.00. I'd be more than happy to enter your e-mail as the referrer, if I can find the 99.00 deal. Maybe I'm missing something. Thanks for all your help...
David Lieberman
http://www.awdsf.com (Flash 5 plug-in required)
----- Original Message -----
From: Devious D_MasterMixer
To: david@awdsf.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 Pro
Yes, my good man, there is. > Email or tell your friends about ACID PRO, and
send them to
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677
for the boxed version or
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6676
for downloadable when
they are ready to buy.
>
> On the Sonic Foundry Online Store address form,
your friends will see a
field labeled "Referred By". Tell them to put
your email address,
ldarthard@ameritech.net, in that field. Now that last part is crucial, since it will enable me to get a free "Loops For Acid" CD.
----Original Message Follows----
From: David Lieberman
Reply-To: David Lieberman
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Acid 3.0 Pro
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:33:30 -0700
Sorry to bother you. I saw your posting about Acid Pro 3.0 for $99.00. Is there a special URL for the offer?
Thanks!
Dave
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 19:20:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19257; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:18:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:18:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2001 23:16:50.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[C27D6B90:01C0F395] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Not to open this can of worms again, but... I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due date of 6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't say exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I thought I would check with you cats to make sure. Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received shipment notices yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me the truth... could be. -s _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 19:22:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19413; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:21:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:21:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:24:40 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Message-ID: <20010612.162440.56.10.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,5-25 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i got the same story, and they already charged my cc even tho' nothing has shipped. i hate to rag on a company, but that's what i call customer service! On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700 "Peter Underwood" writes: > Not to open this can of worms again, but... > > I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due > date of > 6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't > say > exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I > thought I > would check with you cats to make sure. > > Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received shipment > notices > yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me > the > truth... could be. > > -s > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 21:42:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24224; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:40:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:40:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:39:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2001 01:39:14.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[A75BFCA0:01C0F3A9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com After my experience with my cancelled order, I received an e-mail saying that my order had shipped, and that I should have received my tracking information in a previous e-mail. This was Sunday 6-10. Having received no previous e-mail, I of course called to check it out. I was told that this was yet another glitch, and that no orders had shipped, and that they had not yet received their order. I think considering the circumstances that when we get our gear is when we get our gear, and for $99.00 I'm not gonna go too crazy on them in order to get my gear, just as long as I eventually do get it. Although I would be interested in hearing when any of you get your orders. Pete. >From: "Peter Underwood" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700 > >Not to open this can of worms again, but... > >I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due date of >6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't say >exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I thought >I >would check with you cats to make sure. > >Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received shipment >notices >yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me the >truth... could be. > >-s >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 21:53:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24676; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:51:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:51:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [198.81.17.167] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:50:41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2001 01:50:41.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[407DD740:01C0F3AB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Hi guys, I ordered the Warp Factory, Filter Queen and EQ Killer from Guitar Center in San Jose Ca. and got them in 2 days.  What a deal huh??? $99 for Warp factory $79 for the other 2.  Good Luck with your orders.  Papa Dave   Om and Out

>From: "Pete Mundt"
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:39:14 -0400
>
>
> After my experience with my cancelled order, I received an e-mail
>saying
>that my order had shipped, and that I should have received my
>tracking
>information in a previous e-mail. This was Sunday 6-10. Having
>received no
>previous e-mail, I of course called to check it out. I was told that
>this
>was yet another glitch, and that no orders had shipped, and that
>they had
>not yet received their order. I think considering the circumstances
>that
>when we get our gear is when we get our gear, and for $99.00 I'm not
>gonna
>go too crazy on them in order to get my gear, just as long as I
>eventually
>do get it.
>Although I would be interested in hearing when any of you get your
>orders.
>Pete.
>
>
>>From: "Peter Underwood"
>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>Subject: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend
>>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700
>>
>>Not to open this can of worms again, but...
>>
>>I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due
>>date of
>>6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't
>>say
>>exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I
>>thought
>>I
>>would check with you cats to make sure.
>>
>>Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received
>>shipment
>>notices
>>yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me
>>the
>>truth... could be.
>>
>>-s
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 22:23:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26634; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:20:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:20:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106130219.TAA23723@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:22:06 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at M