From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 1 07:05:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12DF43BECC; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 07:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=c6s/hELRFWASxuhSZn00che51rqvkRFDJdAmJv8MxoO2bwNYOBWEpmthe1jp3ASsFlWe5+bR+bC+eflc9s1OlD97SWR5J9p/JR0r6gHGgLhoLRvnncr8B3p8dLuK4w3sHefqyIhf1G6WJQIIa2LwY+nhKJl0MPJuPWuGP6FT2kM= ; Message-ID: <20061001070523.15588.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 00:05:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ferrara Brain Pan Subject: The Longest Loop Ever Recorded To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060928060615.46037.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <6YXjsB.A.BlG.0i2HFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 07:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Any idea what it is? (in hours:minutes:seconds, or if a tape loop, then how long in feet or meters)... If reality is pre-recorded as Burroughs used to say, then maybe reality is actually a giant tape loop (a mobius strip)... maybe it hasn't completed one cycle yet... Ferrara Brain Pan http://www.formsofthingsunknown.com "Let the great constellation of flickering ashes be heard..." Noel Scott Engel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 1 08:28:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48EE93BEB0; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=lI3Ld1QTQUh6J8q4WcAUe8n0lgWmGuv43dLRmmwvM22ofa4oZ7rHqwqQG3DVCG0jlbyw9KJ0ankBV+vPjYaySq/D2SMxjgPnk09iZLVNjd7KInt71YKi2NvAI8C1GMmIzjKMDx7bp8vCh+hawGC0mOU/TLqIMiCKGnnPDe0ioAk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061001070523.15588.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061001070523.15588.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <383C8382-D6AC-477E-BD35-7CD0ED971DBA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: The Longest Loop Ever Recorded Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:28:05 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:28:11 +0000 (UTC) On 1 okt 2006, at 09.05, Ferrara Brain Pan wrote: > Any idea what it is? (in hours:minutes:seconds, or if a tape loop, > then how long in feet or > meters)... > > If reality is pre-recorded as Burroughs used to say, then maybe > reality is actually a giant tape > loop (a mobius strip)... maybe it hasn't completed one cycle yet... Interesting theory. That would make the buddhists (who strive to get out of the loop) Mobius Script Makers! ;-) Seriously, I heard I heard about a composition being performed on a church organ somewhere in Germany over a several hundred years time span. Excuse my bad memory on this, but maybe someone else knows the church and the composers name? I'm not certain this composition use loops, but probably it does so because looping parts of the score is a usual concept in composition. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 1 08:36:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64DE73BEB3; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAHEaH0WBToorAQECBwQKBwYd Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20061001093409.01bdf440@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:36:03 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: The Longest Loop Ever Recorded In-Reply-To: <383C8382-D6AC-477E-BD35-7CD0ED971DBA@gmail.com> References: <20061001070523.15588.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383C8382-D6AC-477E-BD35-7CD0ED971DBA@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:36:00 +0000 (UTC) >Seriously, I heard I heard about a composition being performed on a >church organ somewhere in Germany over a several hundred years time >span. Excuse my bad memory on this, but maybe someone else knows the >church and the composers name? I'm not certain this composition use >loops, but probably it does so because looping parts of the score is >a usual concept in composition. A John Cage piano piece marked "as slowly as possible". They intend to only build the pipes for each note as needed. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 1 22:07:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 914243BEAF; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fNeGA8GEBtqD+0ni4UjQ2WM194+wrboHEMBFIzFyyxROOSW8lpIBtZGEUwtKUUIMd5iW7qXZNnuZzf4Z7p9/Up1wkDlCoCY1xeZlibE/r5EJu8nQ+Mi8RORkbRpLnZDJaW0rNwZ+Zsgux9ESOjbv7ILxJ3UrYoYoCfMLdgSzA70= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <383C8382-D6AC-477E-BD35-7CD0ED971DBA@gmail.com> References: <20061001070523.15588.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383C8382-D6AC-477E-BD35-7CD0ED971DBA@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <51E152D5-1964-4BEB-A9A8-D2CE575FC256@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: RP Collier Subject: Re: The Longest Loop Ever Recorded Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:07:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:07:54 +0000 (UTC) As Andy noted, it is John Cage Organ2/ASLSP On Oct 1, 2006, at 1:28 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > maybe someone else knows the church from www.john-cage.halberstadt.de "The place will be St. Burchardi one of the oldest churches of the =20 city. Built around 1050 by Burchard of Nahburg, this church =20 functioned as Cistercian convent for more than 600 years. In the 30 =20 years lasting war, St. Burchardi was partially destroyed but rebuild =20 in 1711 and secularized by J=E9rome in 1810. For 190 years the church =20= was used as a barn, a hovel, a distillery and a sty." from PlaybillArts "But a group of musicologists decided several years ago to take its =20 title at face value, and initiated a 639-year performance of the work =20= on a church organ in Halberstadt, Germany (the length was chosen to =20 match the age of the organ). The performance began in September 2001 with the inflation of the =20 organ's bellows, followed by 18 months of silence. In February 2003, =20 a chord was heard, and in July 2004 two notes were added. The new =20 chord=97an A, a C, and an F-sharp=97will last until 2012. According to the Times, the performance is being carried out with the =20= help of sandbags placed on the keys." regards BobC http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://tinyurl.com/cr25j http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsn--iF6a4Xo http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157594240725240= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 2 08:13:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAD4F3BECC; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 08:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cgl6ptrujO5qNyyb2qx7rP1S2VA72gunKf0oEN8wQPZK+ifnutctd6r5D/nMskb8FtjnVZgGj9GXaqScj+WmoZ4S0ZZj9hOSmoHDWuqYCGpuoiEGvmK6jyUG7ENoVsMXi0Uz1NBA1dSgl9h9NiByaVtnlw4T2Ri8XWg09qKyLKM= ; Message-ID: <20061002081358.38985.qmail@web55514.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 01:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Monica Subject: The Shortest Loop Ever Recorded? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-585957799-1159776838=:38877" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 08:13:59 +0000 (UTC) --0-585957799-1159776838=:38877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think I might have just heard the shortest. The intro for John McLaughlin's website. http://johnmclaughlin.com Monica --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com --0-585957799-1159776838=:38877 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
 
 
I think I might have just heard the shortest.
The intro for John McLaughlin's website.
Monica

Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com --0-585957799-1159776838=:38877-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 2 12:49:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDD233BEB5; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 481394266 Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC96AD@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: A quieter, gentler footswitch?... Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:49:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6E620.CBEA1D1C" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:49:25 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6E620.CBEA1D1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have one of these: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062545 &cp=2032058.2032230.2032278&pg=3&allCount=69&fbn=Price%2FUnder+%243.99&fbc=1 &fr=StorePrice%2FRSK%2F00000000%2F00000399&parentPage=family (radio shack Catalog #: 275-1566) installed as an additional switch in a behringer box that would otherwise only be two footswitches, which I use with my repeater. there is no mechanical noise from this switch other than one's shoe hitting it, & (so far) no mechanical reliability or damage issues. ym, as usual, mv. duncan. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated. MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. MTV Networks Europe *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6E620.CBEA1D1C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: A quieter, gentler footswitch?...
I have one of these:
 
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?produ= ctId=3D2062545&cp=3D2032058.2032230.2032278&pg=3D3&allCount=3D6= 9&fbn=3DPrice%2FUnder+%243.99&fbc=3D1&fr=3DStorePrice%2FRSK%2F0= 0000000%2F00000399&parentPage=3Dfamily
 
(radio shack  Catalog #: 275-1566)
 
installed as an additional switch in a behringer= box=20 that would otherwise only be two footswitches, which I use with my repeater= .=20 there is no mechanical noise from this switch other than one's shoe hitting= it,=20 & (so far) no mechanical reliability or damage issues.
 
ym, as usual, mv.
 
duncan.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C6E620.CBEA1D1C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 2 13:10:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 256653BEC1; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 481405516 Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC96AE@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: A quieter, gentler footswitch?... Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:10:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6E624.27E836BE" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:10:36 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6E624.27E836BE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>My final question is this: Is there any recommendation for a stand-alone live looping tool (no laptop or software or MIDI required) with a well-functioning foot controller, and no significant noise issues, suitable for looping live miked acoustic instruments? [snip]<< sounds like you are close to your wits' end there. I would begin looking for a decent 2nd hand original jam-man if I were you. nice quiet switches, basic standalone operation...... but are there really no musically-inclined techs in your neighbourhood who could help you re-engineer the EH footswitch controller into near-silence? half the problem is the clunky switches they use, believing that this things are only going to be used by lead-footed guitarists & that only a fuzz-box switch from 1972 is going to be tough enough. about 90% of the remaining problem is the tin box that EH are so sentimentally attached to; is it really cheaper &/or more desirable to bend silk-screened monkey-metal than to cast some chunky aluminium? then why do MXR, line6 et al use the latter? I would that this engineering challenge were a little closer, geographically. ironically, my guitarist would be in the market for trading his lexicon footswitches (& since he is occasionally using two jam-mans, there are potentially four lots of double footswitch to keep track of, in the dark) for something with six noisy clunky fuzzbox switches on it (hell, he doesn't care- he's using three distortion pedals at once into a marshall stack & a fender bassman) that would drive both jam-mans from one small bit of stage real-estate. & the original lexicon jam-man pedals are as quiet as anything. where are you based, brainpan? duncan. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated. MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. MTV Networks Europe *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6E624.27E836BE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: A quieter, gentler footswitch?...

>>My final question is this: Is there any recommend= ation for a stand-alone live looping tool (no
laptop or software or MIDI required) with a well-functio= ning foot controller, and no significant
noise issues, suitable for looping live miked acoustic i= nstruments? [snip]<<

sounds like you are close to your wits' end there. I woul= d begin looking for a decent 2nd hand original jam-man if I were you. nice = quiet switches, basic standalone operation......

but are there really no musically-inclined techs in your = neighbourhood who could help you re-engineer the EH footswitch controller i= nto near-silence?

half the problem is the clunky switches they use, believi= ng that this things are only going to be used by lead-footed guitarists &am= p; that only a fuzz-box switch from 1972 is going to be tough enough.

about 90% of the remaining problem is the tin box that EH= are so sentimentally attached to; is it really cheaper &/or more desir= able to bend silk-screened monkey-metal than to cast some chunky aluminium?= then why do MXR, line6 et al use the latter?

I would that this engineering challenge were a little clo= ser, geographically.
 
ironically, my guitarist would be in the market for trad= ing his lexicon footswitches (& since he is occasionally using two jam-= mans, there are potentially four lots of double footswitch to keep track of= , in the dark) for something with six noisy clunky fuzzbox switches on it (= hell, he doesn't care- he's using three distortion pedals at once into a ma= rshall stack & a fender bassman) that would drive both jam-mans from on= e small bit of stage real-estate.

& the original lexicon jam-man pedals are as quiet as= anything.

where are you based, brainpan?

duncan.



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C6E624.27E836BE-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 2 13:25:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F7803BEDE; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MwxQzwtc1+lHw40yBF0vndAOpcDOV7sK72d+3I9tCkNgfDsRz5ScoG7NR17r7M2lRO6EkLLNbqdQnedLSFJydi80qDns2xQOjlDidPhpjgHkHsS++Q7U4yTezwoUuEX4qPbL+GL25hvVGZ2W/k8bDzPaqg2wapfqDhuNw7s4ZmQ= ; Message-ID: <20061002132459.41315.qmail@web52405.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 06:24:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Joyce Subject: The longest piece of music ... in production To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:25:05 +0000 (UTC) I reckon has to be this 1000-year composition. www.longplayer.org/lp_new_site/what/what.html www.longplayer.org/ Guy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 2 16:37:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F0673BECF; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4V5el9uMH2nY7a/mpbqW9jPCoX0Gx2n5Z6Z6qDq8Bop0Uku7XDP5dCingPF6+zt1u1FW34IrwHZaIPlJBBgP0vAFxwBdVxD++ySB6oegPu/7QzcsmVpNV0fpXyxDYZZqf7hiXiE00W2DIsD8rf9eM4ECLOTXN1qERZ018nSmcvM= ; Message-ID: <20061002163705.11207.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: ot: random effect (broken digitech) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060930214428.0C8513BEDA@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1478118262-1159807025=:11147" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:37:08 +0000 (UTC) --0-1478118262-1159807025=:11147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit my random effect is my digitech rp100 that i got in '01, sometimes it starts to "freak out" and either the effects module will cycle through all the effects (the light flashes and the display switches real fast from one effect to next) or the amp models will cycle through randomly. i've recorded it once, and it was kind of interesting in its randomness. (has sort of an extreme tremolo effect in quick changing of effects/amp models) unfortunately it happens when i'm trying to do something specific.... i try to think of the old adrian belew comment of working w/ your gears quirks-i think he was talking about one of his gtrs had a broken pu, so he kept using it , instead of replacing it (i think he talked about it being a real twangy sound-he used on one of his songs on one of his 1st solo albums back in 80's) s--- --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. --0-1478118262-1159807025=:11147 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
my random effect is my digitech rp100 that i got in '01, sometimes it starts to
"freak out" and either the effects module will cycle through all the effects (the light flashes and the display switches real fast from one effect to next) or
the amp models will cycle through randomly. i've recorded it once, and it was
kind of interesting in its randomness. (has sort of an extreme tremolo effect in quick changing of effects/amp models)
unfortunately it happens when i'm trying to do something specific....
i try to think of the old adrian belew comment of working w/ your gears quirks-i think
he was talking about one of his gtrs had a broken pu, so he kept using it , instead of replacing it (i think he talked about it being a real twangy sound-he used on one of his songs on one of his 1st solo albums back in 80's)
s---

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Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. --0-1478118262-1159807025=:11147-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 2 16:37:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 336793BEEC; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2voDDkW/n0dc+s9gub6IueZXrQc3ksEac7Tk65bBVInlt1xaf/bAXcj104MT+v+0Qge9A0HzXiQ1Qz9JF9ZJtNTCSnHU5S5Rnooew5K2WDgv7Ki/LPUn/O8gD+IykUDqQPXEUUkaqUVRkWaBw/DVih3ChCCvx2k6M07S5/y7Z+A= ; Message-ID: <20061002163712.45868.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:37:12 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: ot: random effect (broken digitech) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060930214428.0C8513BEDA@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1958191220-1159807032=:44962" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <05HcUC.A.P3F.5AUIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:37:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-1958191220-1159807032=:44962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit my random effect is my digitech rp100 that i got in '01, sometimes it starts to "freak out" and either the effects module will cycle through all the effects (the light flashes and the display switches real fast from one effect to next) or the amp models will cycle through randomly. i've recorded it once, and it was kind of interesting in its randomness. (has sort of an extreme tremolo effect in quick changing of effects/amp models) unfortunately it happens when i'm trying to do something specific.... i try to think of the old adrian belew comment of working w/ your gears quirks-i think he was talking about one of his gtrs had a broken pu, so he kept using it , instead of replacing it (i think he talked about it being a real twangy sound-he used on one of his songs on one of his 1st solo albums back in 80's) s--- --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1958191220-1159807032=:44962 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
my random effect is my digitech rp100 that i got in '01, sometimes it starts to
"freak out" and either the effects module will cycle through all the effects (the light flashes and the display switches real fast from one effect to next) or
the amp models will cycle through randomly. i've recorded it once, and it was
kind of interesting in its randomness. (has sort of an extreme tremolo effect in quick changing of effects/amp models)
unfortunately it happens when i'm trying to do something specific....
i try to think of the old adrian belew comment of working w/ your gears quirks-i think
he was talking about one of his gtrs had a broken pu, so he kept using it , instead of replacing it (i think he talked about it being a real twangy sound-he used on one of his songs on one of his 1st solo albums back in 80's)
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Small Business. --0-1958191220-1159807032=:44962-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 2 23:07:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C08113BEC2; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: accordian looping Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:49:28 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:07:37 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usK1mjwqxOc&mode=related&search= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 2 23:09:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0669C3BED5; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n1BX0iGosY0iILUtfDTQImQ+CvBWKbxn1HqZCnmmCj+ufdgoL3zFJn+4tddRhJD58g78224g6Zgvv//c53Y9gqs2jOicXcVD3SmC26zBekdvs2CluQ6v1AcaP/Ho4MCIhrfqMxNuaX2oqbyrSXnEcDs/pP7reDpwXPDCz4Pq/iY= ; Message-ID: <20061002230927.15643.qmail@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:09:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: The Militarization of MySpace (OT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:09:28 +0000 (UTC) http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=11099 cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 05:08:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E9D03BEB5; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1da601c6e6a9$fcd273f0$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> Subject: Re: accordian looping Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:08:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Well, in the USA we have a joke phrase, "Play the accordion, go to jail", and a joke: "You are driving home and you come across a dead frog and accordion player in the middle of the road...what can you conclude? The frog must have been on his way to a gig." :) But this video changes everything...sheer madness, I tell you. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mimlitsch" To: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: accordian looping > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usK1mjwqxOc&mode=related&search= > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 11:46:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDDEA3BEB9; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:46:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001e01c6e6e1$c18cd460$24fe9643@Biffoz> From: "Miko Biffle" To: References: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> <1da601c6e6a9$fcd273f0$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: accordian looping Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 04:47:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:46:42 +0000 (UTC) And what do they use as anchors to keep all those lawyers at the bottom on the ocean? . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" Subject: Re: accordian looping > Well, in the USA we have a joke phrase, "Play the accordion, go to jail", > and a joke: "You are driving home and you come across a dead frog and > accordion player in the middle of the road...what can you conclude? The frog > must have been on his way to a gig." :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 14:26:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 874B13BEA7; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522730D.9030801@infinivert.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:26:21 -0500 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: accordian looping References: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0640-1, 10/03/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-Information: http://wtxs.net/support/spam.php Please contact the Texas Communications at 800-299-6962 for more information X-TexComm-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: josh@infinivert.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:26:40 +0000 (UTC) I had always heard that harps are handed out at the gate of heaven and accordions are handed out at the gate of hell. And while I do think this particular "hellish" piece might be a fitting soundtrack to Dante's Inferno, it does raise my respect for the instrument! Very cool... er, umm... hot! --Josh Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usK1mjwqxOc&mode=related&search= > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 15:06:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAE9F3BEB3; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: accordian looping Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:06:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C13AE79@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: accordian looping thread-index: Acbmd44/7rXzcLswRoKcrebSyM8l6wAhaxPA From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:06:42 +0000 (UTC) One of my favorite bumper stickers: I play the accordion....and I vote! and one of my favorite bands: http://thosedarnaccordions.com/ Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 16:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46FAC3BEB8; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: accordian looping Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 09:16:16 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C13AE79@keel.sailpoint.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:16:16 +0000 (UTC) "Accordians don't play Lady of Spain...People do" another great Those darn Accordians bumper sticker. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Larson [mailto:jeff.larson@sailpoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:07 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: accordian looping One of my favorite bumper stickers: I play the accordion....and I vote! and one of my favorite bands: http://thosedarnaccordions.com/ Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 16:33:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BC813BED2; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Eu15/i/bmNCjTtvmjKlDNoHehB+fDm42JkiLBIzdA3d8mf9AT7/MTs0kp6HHGFwx; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <6473947.1159893180799.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:33:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Accordian Looping Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da9408b7009420730d807008e5052737959ae350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.47 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Friends, Shameful secrets emergence moment. I too had the accordian curse upon me as a child. My Granny wanted me to be some kind of Irish/Jewish (as though there isn't enough cultural and religious baggage with this combination) Myron Floren/Frankie Yankovic. I wanted to be a Bob Dylan/Angus Young hybrid at that point. But growing up in Polka-Central in Western Pennsylvania left what she presumed was a clear path of keyboard and bellows destiny. The is the instrument of both people's in many ways. This has redeemed the instrument in so many ways. I still occasionally blow the dust off of my Hohner and play. Oddly enough, the only people who give me much guff about it are fellow musicians. Kind of in the same vein as banjo jokes. Squeeze On Brother Boxers! Todd Howell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 16:38:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5041E3BEDB; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002001c6e70a$4a84e370$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> <1da601c6e6a9$fcd273f0$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001e01c6e6e1$c18cd460$24fe9643@Biffoz> Subject: Re: accordian looping Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:37:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Now you've done it. http://www.prosoundweb.com/fun/jokes/joke01.shtml Our favorite Gary Larson items (yes, you know) are here: http://www.accordionscanada.com/resourcepage.htm#comic :) > From: "Miko Biffle" > And what do they use as anchors to keep all those lawyers at the bottom on > the ocean? . . . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krispen Hartung" > Subject: Re: accordian looping > > >> Well, in the USA we have a joke phrase, "Play the accordion, go to jail", >> and a joke: "You are driving home and you come across a dead frog and >> accordion player in the middle of the road...what can you conclude? The > frog >> must have been on his way to a gig." :) > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 17:09:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84E553BED6; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Craig McCollough Subject: Live 6.0 and Happy Birthday Rick! Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:09:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.server20070.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - craigmccollough.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Hey All - I downloaded the Live 6.0 demo last night and started playing.... I'm liking it!! The MIDI mapping is *very* intuitive. Anyone else have a chance to start playing with it? Happy Birthday to Rick Walker (loop.pool)!!! Cheers, Craig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 17:24:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B96F3BEDB; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=phe5kjKrKEgFG0qNm9TYP+VoSxI3YjdlUyfqtsHOS75A/QaAn6CTbSdfmcamFBpT06jpNLvziwvYkQpSCzHQgBVBREXcMpdBfxRkPYt4u/In5Yn28Br5UiM+kNARONP5YTcBmcc6VmnhHiZB4v7wXlWuFRE62IHaLXZgFmQmpKI= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:24:18 -0700 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live 6.0 and Happy Birthday Rick! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Yeah Live 6 is cool. Two features added that made this an indispensible upgrade (and things that should have been there earlier): dual processor support, and render individual tracks. Haven't had a chance to dig into the midi mapping, but I'm hoping the improved feature set allows for a bit more live looping capability... Happy birthday Rick! Neil On 10/3/06, Craig McCollough wrote: > Hey All - > > I downloaded the Live 6.0 demo last night and started playing.... > I'm liking it!! The MIDI mapping is *very* intuitive. > > Anyone else have a chance to start playing with it? > > Happy Birthday to Rick Walker (loop.pool)!!! > > > Cheers, > Craig > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 18:15:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E74383BED6; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: feedback 100% Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:12:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C13AE79@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 20221 Message-Id: <8C8B52EABDC185B-1408-15BF@FWM-R04.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 152.163.211.132 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:15:44 +0000 (UTC) my rang is stuck in 100% feedback due to a button going bad.....it never fails to amaze me how tricky it is to loop in this situation.....mush soup is ever near.....i always said that "undo" is for sissies.....perhaps feedback is for sissies also.....there i said it!.....:)m hey rickeeeeeeee, where's the cake?.....i used to love birthdays till they seemed to come around every few months.....ZOOM-MOOZ.....an anti-time drug! ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 18:24:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EA4E3BED2; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000401c6e719$1da30760$0200a8c0@raulb3d53f8e09> From: "raul bonell" To: References: Subject: Re: Live 6.0 and Happy Birthday Rick! Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:24:05 +0200 Organization: paciencia records MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Did AL6 includes some notebook ala cubase, sonar, etc.? Bad memory here. I usually save my projects into a folder where also include a text file to write down some clues about the work.It would be helpful to have it associated in the program itself. The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 18:33:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 803F93BEC1; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,251,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="313377843:sNHT23171456" From: Subject: Re: feedback 100% To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.7.5a-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20061003143338.BOX38172@ms06.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-ID: <12no4D.A.5KH.G0qIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:33:42 +0000 (UTC) I've been trying to experiment with my Boomerang at various feedback levels other than 100%, and I find THAT to be very difficult! Everything I play keeps fading out! Too funny ;) Tom ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:12:50 -0400 >From: nemoguitt@aol.com >Subject: feedback 100% >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >my rang is stuck in 100% feedback due to a button going bad.....it >never fails to amaze me how tricky it is to loop in this >situation.....mush soup is ever near.....i always said that "undo" is >for sissies.....perhaps feedback is for sissies also.....there i said >it!.....:)m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 18:42:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 067EB3BEF3; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nWY8fhJwjv0/Lq3UsUkY/ryEq9HaV+nbhF19rJN11LfDcgahhMg4hPPQCIvATia8OkiPx94iOCUSI/x+YYGgv0RumoRKgivp7g7rZS0aJ8ZnVh062kpVpRC0ir5qBizwxQvI661gobwc24HJeyNWZf9qJVPOUHNhrMUgJrpv3j0= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:42:41 -0700 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live 6.0 and Happy Birthday Rick! In-Reply-To: <000401c6e719$1da30760$0200a8c0@raulb3d53f8e09> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2784_12034659.1159900961710" References: <000401c6e719$1da30760$0200a8c0@raulb3d53f8e09> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:42:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2784_12034659.1159900961710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/3/06, raul bonell wrote: > > Did AL6 includes some notebook ala cubase, sonar, etc.? Bad memory here. I > usually > save my projects into a folder where also include a text file to write > down > some clues about the work.It would be helpful to have it associated in the > program itself. No but 6 organizes folders automatically (similar to 'Save as Project' in earlier version), but its an automatic, enforced folder hierchcy with all audio and midi saved into convenient subfolders, and each plug in used has an alias to 'save with project' for song specific patches. Still getting to know this, but this may allay some of your need for text files. ------=_Part_2784_12034659.1159900961710 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 10/3/06, raul bonell <RAULBONELL@telefonica.net> wrote:
Did AL6 includes some notebook ala cubase, sonar, etc.? Bad memory here. I
usually
save my projects into a folder where also include a text file to write down
some clues about the work.It would be helpful to have it associated in the
program itself.
 
No but 6 organizes folders automatically (similar to 'Save as Project' in earlier version), but its an automatic, enforced folder hierchcy with all audio and midi saved into convenient subfolders, and each plug in used has an alias to 'save with project' for song specific patches. Still getting to know this, but this may allay some of your need for text files.

 
------=_Part_2784_12034659.1159900961710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 19:41:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5DE83BEE8; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Subject: RE: Live 6.0 and Happy Birthday Rick! Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:41:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.5207 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AcbnDrR4tQ9Yman8Rqy1NoaD0kXGRQAFSwOQ Message-Id: <20061003194142.53621A8C0B@smtp1.libero.it> X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Hey, Happy Birthday friend..:-):-) Peace Luigi -----Original Message----- From: Craig McCollough [mailto:craig@craigmccollough.com]=20 Sent: marted=EC 3 ottobre 2006 19.09 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live 6.0 and Happy Birthday Rick! Hey All - I downloaded the Live 6.0 demo last night and started playing.... =20 I'm liking it!! The MIDI mapping is *very* intuitive. Anyone else have a chance to start playing with it? Happy Birthday to Rick Walker (loop.pool)!!! Cheers, Craig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:44:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B158B3BED2; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522D9CA.2050105@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:44:42 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Short loop fades more quickly than long loop with same feedback setting References: <000601c6e2c1$dc373950$0202a8c0@Lightning> In-Reply-To: <000601c6e2c1$dc373950$0202a8c0@Lightning> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <16clDD.A.dbC.KntIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Warren Sirota wrote: > It still seems to me that the destructive nature of the feedback is an > implementation artifact rather than a feature. All instruments are made of 100% implementation artifacts... Only marketing persons need features they can sell... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:44:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B2523BEE8; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522D9DA.30803@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:44:58 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hello world its me, Rithers... References: <6124676D-B75D-45DF-855E-2248FC6DF8B9@rithma.org> In-Reply-To: <6124676D-B75D-45DF-855E-2248FC6DF8B9@rithma.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Reese Ritherspoon wrote: > - can anyone suggest some of their favorite artists that i should check > out? All who play at the Y2K6 Loopfest, very broad variety... > is there a known "best" looper in existance? My homebrewed Max/MSP patch running on a 12" powerbook... > is there a "lamborghini"? The looperlative probably or as oldtimer it seems the repeater... But I don't drive cars, I am a bike addict... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:45:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16E1E3BEEC; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522D9F5.4010606@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:45:25 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT(?): utility to map Midi Note to PC messages? References: <01ec01c6e3a8$e68032d0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> <4B39A0D7-0945-4A88-8630-CBC4D65B3E1C@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <4B39A0D7-0945-4A88-8630-CBC4D65B3E1C@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Zoe Keating wrote: > There's GOT to be another way (I like Bernard's suggestion of a Max > patch). But I'll keep this in mind though for a last resort. What about instead of last resort, a future resort? I'll happily patch it together for you, there is no rush now as Midipipe works for you. But Max could do much more, even replace the repeaters in case they fail one day and nobodies selling a used one, it might even combine a vegetarian meal for you and serve the drink after the concert... ;-) You don't need to be able to create all by yourself, but you can design all by yourself... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:46:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EF773BEF3; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522DA22.5000409@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:46:10 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MAX/MSP Conversion Complete... References: <14f901c6e3cf$8b1fa480$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <2F8B8170-0578-40A4-AF04-85D79CDCAE0A@gmail.com> <155601c6e3db$c1215d10$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <155601c6e3db$c1215d10$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > So, if Reaktor folks are making an argument that MAX/MSP sounds thin, > they are probably misunderstanding the architecture of the program > and what on can do with it. I would guess that the reaktor folks do really compare and judge, I have a similar experience with Kyma. The Kyma is coming with a bunch of readymade high quality sounds. Elsewise its a different beast than Max, you can create patches and will have the same flexibility as in Max. (Reaktor is much less flexible than Max) On the first sight Max, Kyma and Reaktor sound different. But as you get those readymade sounds you tend to use it like a rack of effects, filled with fashionable sounds. If these fashionable sounds are your only concern, better stick with them, there is no need for you to go the Max route, you're happy already. (Same applies for acoustic and "No-Computer" musicans...) Beginning with a blank page does make it more difficult to achieve an already known sound. You need A LOT of knowledge, which only partially is public, as most creators hide their knowledge to be more competitive. But usually you don't even start to think about completely different ways of creating a sound. You might have a newcomers idea how something should work and get a different sound than you expected, but you like it and keep it and suddenly you're lightyears ahead of any fashion... By the time your explorations will be fashion its old boring stuff for yourself. Max is not made for mainstream taste. As soon as you start, you develop your own tastes. You tweak the sound for your own liking extending the limits of normal effects... It is difficult to achieve the same sound of a filter as some of those pricey hardware emulations you can buy as vst~. Though the knowledge how these are done and tweaked is there, it would not make sense to get into those details. In the end its just different which sais nothing about absolute quality. Most digital filters for example use exactly the same basic structure and its a science of its own to tweak 5 parameters to make it sound like it sounds. Normal users just think "Lowpass", "Highpass", "Bandpass" etc. The tweaking was done by an electrical engineer in the old days, by a DSP programmer today... You just can't learn this within a month... In Max you could arrive at that level, in Reaktor you're bound to the filters which are there. On first sight Reaktor sounds "better", but it restricted to that sound as well. In Max you won't get it out of the box, though somebody out there probably has tweaked it to the same level of quality, but Maxers usually don't consider this too important... If you rely on a certain sound just hooking up Max as vst host is the most simple solution, you can concentrate on the music instead of technical details. There is no need to invent the wheel again... > My guess is that it might be more difficult to build a MAX/MSP > Blackbird equivalent, because MAX/MSP seems to start at a more > fundamental level in terms of the building blocks of patches. I'd be > blown away if a MAX/MSP programmer did this...because right now > Blackbird (thanks to Dave Coffin who shared it with me) is my > favorite patch of all, out of all my VSTs, etc. Is there a Reaktor demo which could load it to have a look? Usually if I hear inspiring sounds and recreate them in Max the end up being very different and much better (thats a matter of taste of course ;-) Synth sounds can be addictive, though for my taste they are much too often a "one trigger and it does it magic" thing which decouples the performer from the sound. The most interesting synth sounds I heard so far where mostly physical models with a lot of control while holding a note... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:46:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 425453BEFA; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:46:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522DA40.80305@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:46:40 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MAX/MSP Conversion Complete... References: <2C318320-9DD0-41E5-B766-C145E472CC00@xmlizer.biz> <005601c6e476$747d4b40$5a01a8c0@mark> In-Reply-To: <005601c6e476$747d4b40$5a01a8c0@mark> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:46:42 +0000 (UTC) markfrancombe.com wrote: > My general impression of both of these packages is that they suck the > living blood outa you, your skin goes grey, you start to smell of dead > cells cigerettes and pizza, your friends talk about you when you are not > there, and you dont talk much to them when they are there... evil... > dark....and grim....and my personal favorites... audio much and > synthedit.... are both just slightly less dangerous than heroin. Just > say NO... > > just mho > > mark francombe > (who uses NO computers in the making of his music... anymore... and is > now rosy cheeked and losing weight!!! Ah that's why I survived with Max, I skipped the pizza, cook with as much love as I improvise music, and don't need to loose weight... And of course if someone would ask me to play blackbird on a guitar I'd be lost as well... (The only standard I can play halfway through is the chromatic fanatasy on the bass... ;-) You probably have to get rid of all other addictions before you start with those geeky tools... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:47:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DA643BEE2; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522DA62.6070303@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:47:14 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MAX/MSP Conversion Complete... References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C0F6D5E@keel.sailpoint.com> <2C318320-9DD0-41E5-B766-C145E472CC00@xmlizer.biz> <2B89FF99-7289-4290-B857-F636A42D49BB@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: <2B89FF99-7289-4290-B857-F636A42D49BB@zonemobius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Jeffrey Larson wrote: > Yes I understand. My point is that you are ultimately limited by the > Max intrinsic objects. In the case of filters, my "MSP Filters" > menu shows 14 objects: allPass~, biquad~, etc. Mine has 16 objects but not all are filters... ;-) If you know how digital filters work, you probably could do most of these "analog emulatins" Most filter designs rely on a simple biquad formula. The secret is the parameters. Recently there was a flag added to filtergraph~ (an UI object to control a biquad~) called "Imitation Analog Flavor". The object which does the actual filtering is still the same as before, it just gets a different set of parameters to do its magic... And you are not limited to the Max intrinsic objects. Especially for filters there are a lot of 3rd party externals and patches which deliver you filters of all flavours. You can also create brickwall filters with FFT techniques, not available for any analog flavor way of thinking (Its not part of the filter object list). One of my favorites is the "forbidden planet" patch which comes as example with Max > can we say for certain that with these 14 objects we can exactly > emulate the filters on something like an Access Virus? I don't mean > just close, I mean near sample accurate emulation? If you know the exact algorithm you could do it sample accurate. But they won't give you that information and more important there is no point in doing so. As soon you understand enough of the matter to be able to redo it, you certainly would do it much more personal and different. And there is ALWAYS more than 14 objects involved... Thats the diference to Reaktor, there you think in "Filter" and thats it. In Max you embed the filter into a bigger picture to actually control it. And the way you control your sounds are more important to the sound itself than any technology involved. > Is there one and only one possible implementation of hilbert~ ? As its a mathematically defined treatment, the implementation might differ, the result must be the same. > maybe it just takes a lot of work with hilbert~, phaseshift~, and > comb~ to get the same "warmth" as some Reaktor patches. These three I'd never associate with "warmth" ;-) > I don't know, but what I'm wondering is if these fundamental > algorithms color the sound enough so that people can tell the > difference between the "Max sound" and the "Reaktor sound". There is a similar issue with studios, you can hear if a peace is made at IRCAM. I consider this a weakness not a strength. If it sounds like Reaktor, its done with the presets which come with it. If somebode gets into it an tweaks the sounds, it stops sounding like Reaktor, the same applies to Max or Kyma or even Nordlead versus Virus... You'll love it if the presets fit your taste... > Maybe it is simply a matter of Reaktor having a better default object > library that sounds warmer without a lot of tweaking. Thats the main difference. Reaktor is filled with sounds average people don't need to tweak to get the expected (average) sound. Enough, I better watch the sunset on my flight to Oslo... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:47:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 096C93BF10; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522DA71.3020503@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:47:29 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MAX/MSP Conversion Complete... References: <2C318320-9DD0-41E5-B766-C145E472CC00@xmlizer.biz> <005601c6e476$747d4b40$5a01a8c0@mark> <8bc80192a8ccfb3d766fee8629e5a221@pfmentum.com> <188501c6e4d7$561cd6f0$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <188501c6e4d7$561cd6f0$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7JVns.A.pCD.vptIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > doesn't someone make an app that will make a pc VST work on a mac? I > used to have a program that converted VST to RTAS, etc. I can imagine that this could work on MacIntels in a not so far future. But converting VST to RTAS isn't recompiling, its wrapping. Old Macs don't share the same processor with a PC, but the new ones do... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:48:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C64B43BEFF; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522DAC4.9020503@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:48:52 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Longest Loop Ever Recorded References: <20061001070523.15588.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20061001070523.15588.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Ferrara Brain Pan wrote: > Any idea what it is? (in hours:minutes:seconds, or if a tape loop, > then how long in feet or meters)... The longest loop for sure will be longer than any physical tape could be in the age of digital storage... But there is a conceptual problem. I you think in terms of the longest loop, when did you hear it? I guess you can only tell if you have heard the complete loop at least two times. Consider you want to break the Guiness book record of the longest loop? How would you do this? You just start recording, and as soon you passed the maximum time ever reached, you start to replay... In that moment you realise the maximum got just bigger and you restart that again (still recording) That would create a pretty short loop of the beginning of the recording, letting the attempt to create the ever biggest loop result in a pretty short loop with feedback... The longest loop sounds just like a short loop with feedback set to 100%... (noodle, noodle, noodle.... ;-) What a weird idea to put sports (faster, higher, longer) onto loops... (remember olympics? those who always run in a circle, thats also a long loop...) I limited my loops to 90 seconds, which I consider pretty short... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:51:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7BA93BF07; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <20061003143338.BOX38172@ms06.lnh.mail.rcn.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: feedback 100% Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:51:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20061003143338.BOX38172@ms06.lnh.mail.rcn.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 20221 Message-Id: <8C8B54D310C1C23-1408-2551@FWM-R04.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 152.163.211.132 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:51:26 +0000 (UTC) < Everything I play keeps fading out!>.....sez tom tom.....try not keeping the stack button depressed all the time, just use it while inputing something.....if you put in just one note, how many times will it repeat?.....if something you like fades out, just input it again.....at least the rang allows one to do a rather long loop so 100% fb is very doable.....i like how it forces me to think ahead with sound placement rather than blowing ahead full throttle knowing it will fade away.....i can't wait for my new button to get here so i can have less than 100%.....i would rather live in that world!.....:)m ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:51:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17C413BF15; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522DB78.4010606@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:51:52 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: accordian looping References: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> <4522730D.9030801@infinivert.com> In-Reply-To: <4522730D.9030801@infinivert.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Joshua Carroll wrote: > Very cool... er, umm... hot! it remineded me of KTU - be carefull, could burn you... http://tinyurl.com/pz99z Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 21:52:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2727A3BF1C; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <20061003143338.BOX38172@ms06.lnh.mail.rcn.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: feedback 100% Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:51:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20061003143338.BOX38172@ms06.lnh.mail.rcn.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 20221 Message-Id: <8C8B54D473FEFA3-1408-2559@FWM-R04.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 152.163.211.132 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:52:07 +0000 (UTC) < Everything I play keeps fading out!>.....sez tom tom.....try not keeping the stack button depressed all the time, just use it while inputing something.....if you put in just one note, how many times will it repeat?.....if something you like fades out, just input it again.....at least the rang allows one to do a rather long loop so 100% fb is very doable.....i like how it forces me to think ahead with sound placement rather than blowing ahead full throttle knowing it will fade away.....i can't wait for my new button to get here so i can have less than 100%.....i would rather live in that world!.....:)m ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 22:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 720E23BEF4; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XW3VX8kmfCnCpwJLcp2MiJoiLnUutyMon4ex6D75sIBiJKxt0j72ejkNNOA8ByZi/goMDT6ECWXcS5n0CLb04ZRZzeR9Vx7dGzldzf4fWB1P6hllBj08m6NmVOU8mXqOlpckJn9PpNA8GzDbV1NawqryZMaeyEH/2lMag9eiV5w= ; Message-ID: <20061003222013.25868.qmail@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:20:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: EDP more loops/feedback issues To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8C8B54D473FEFA3-1408-2559@FWM-R04.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, In using more loops ive run into the problem of sometimes hitting accidentally a track record button twice into which a loop has been recorded which starts automatically multiplying.Is there a way to avoid this?I already have a separate assigned multiply function for this. The other problem i ran to at a gig is with the feedback control.I am using 3 banks with EDP functions and assigned one of the fcb1010 pedals to control feedback in all 3 banks.But as i was recording a loop after fading one out and reseting the feedback pedal to 100% the new loop kept fading out,having to turn the button manually so it would reset properly. So i am curious as to how fcb1010 users have their feedback pedal set,do u have it in every bank or use a separate pedal conected in the back of the EDP to avoid such thing? cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 22:23:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C10703BEF3; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2323.69.59.207.172.1159914231.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <4522730D.9030801@infinivert.com> References: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> <4522730D.9030801@infinivert.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: accordian looping From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <2VagdD.A.oNF.5LuIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC) I've been recording a Galecian Celtic band lately, and I now know for a fact what instrument is handed out at the gates of hell: BAGPIPES! Not only are they always too freaking loud, they're never in tune either. Wait, that sounds like some guitarists I know :-) > I had always heard that harps are handed out at the gate of heaven and > accordions are handed out at the gate of hell. And while I do think > this particular "hellish" piece might be a fitting soundtrack to Dante's > Inferno, it does raise my respect for the instrument! Very cool... er, > umm... hot! > > --Josh > > > > Paul Mimlitsch wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usK1mjwqxOc&mode=related&search= >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 22:31:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2491E3BF02; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fg/W1ol8TpbKeMxHZqt36DPRjVWismj7tuAD4R5wgd3JaGVZTaiM66y469Z4dFm2tmeM9YrUJduce/7jR+httQcKFnSnJp+Sx6NKfvcW7VeeEVVOdOm4vTBToMel4Yl42d54zBG2BLD3ol7s0fuD+sXX128/6fAWgdmqif4I22k= ; Message-ID: <20061003223102.29441.qmail@web38610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:31:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: accordian looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C13AE79@keel.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:31:03 +0000 (UTC) beautiful stuff Jeff really "Wurst und Bier" stuff! Luis --- Jeff Larson wrote: > > One of my favorite bumper stickers: > > I play the accordion....and I vote! > > and one of my favorite bands: > > http://thosedarnaccordions.com/ > > > Jeff > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 22:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 691B83BF0B; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522E68F.1020306@infinivert.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:39:11 -0500 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: accordian looping References: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> <4522730D.9030801@infinivert.com> <4522DB78.4010606@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <4522DB78.4010606@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0640-1, 10/03/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-Information: http://wtxs.net/support/spam.php Please contact the Texas Communications at 800-299-6962 for more information X-TexComm-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: josh@infinivert.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Holy.... that's just sick! Awesome! --Josh Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Joshua Carroll wrote: >> Very cool... er, umm... hot! > > it remineded me of KTU - be carefull, could burn you... > > http://tinyurl.com/pz99z > > Stefan > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 22:41:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 633183BF05; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4522E717.2090907@infinivert.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:41:27 -0500 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: accordian looping References: <3419ba8e6d978d28df5eef553bc7649b@mac.com> <4522730D.9030801@infinivert.com> <2323.69.59.207.172.1159914231.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <2323.69.59.207.172.1159914231.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010006020106070005000804" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0640-1, 10/03/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-Information: http://wtxs.net/support/spam.php Please contact the Texas Communications at 800-299-6962 for more information X-TexComm-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: josh@infinivert.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:41:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010006020106070005000804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Not only are they always too freaking loud, they're never in tune either. > Wait, that sounds like some guitarists I know :-) > Ain't it the truth?!?!!! --Josh improv@peak.org wrote: > I've been recording a Galecian Celtic band lately, and I now know for a > fact what instrument is handed out at the gates of hell: BAGPIPES! > > Not only are they always too freaking loud, they're never in tune either. > Wait, that sounds like some guitarists I know :-) > > >> I had always heard that harps are handed out at the gate of heaven and >> accordions are handed out at the gate of hell. And while I do think >> this particular "hellish" piece might be a fitting soundtrack to Dante's >> Inferno, it does raise my respect for the instrument! Very cool... er, >> umm... hot! >> >> --Josh >> >> >> >> Paul Mimlitsch wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usK1mjwqxOc&mode=related&search= >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > --------------010006020106070005000804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
Not only are they always too freaking loud, they're never in tune either.
Wait, that sounds like some guitarists I know :-)
Ain't it the truth?!?!!!

--Josh

improv@peak.org wrote: 
I've been recording a Galecian Celtic band lately, and I now know for a
fact what instrument is handed out at the gates of hell: BAGPIPES!

Not only are they always too freaking loud, they're never in tune either.
Wait, that sounds like some guitarists I know :-)

  
I had always heard that harps are handed out at the gate of heaven and
accordions are handed out at the gate of hell.  And while I do think
this particular "hellish" piece might be a fitting soundtrack to Dante's
Inferno, it does raise my respect for the instrument!  Very cool... er,
umm... hot!

--Josh



Paul Mimlitsch wrote:
    
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usK1mjwqxOc&mode=related&search=
--------------010006020106070005000804-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 22:59:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3174E3BEEA; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Cy6+qlhkRL2HtGoUFUyYuMlhetLJNBVGc9ZnqPDyd/M2wlFAX2OxNUFuUzdYIFJQf9cXbGJR/51GK1kgi0pwsKUxaqfGbjTJU2M0MJjX0kOIadAo5jVWu2HE8u9xF4CQR0+dAkwCv2/TifGYw1DYANgTVZJOIueVklmQrW3BlLE= ; Message-ID: <20061003225916.60677.qmail@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: trey gunn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <004a01c6df5f$d531b690$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <4wX_iB.A.R1G.EtuIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:59:17 +0000 (UTC) what on earth is he using here to rub strings? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IwjnT70Oi8&NR www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 23:36:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA53E3BEDB; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: Subject: RE: trey gunn Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:36:54 -0400 Message-ID: <017701c6e744$cf3d20c0$6700a8c0@mincer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20061003225916.60677.qmail@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcbnP44fSUCBwxE2Q5SJ/1ExJcDNOgABR3lg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: <-QqVlD.A.HU.aQvIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:36:58 +0000 (UTC) My guess is that it's a bullet mic, so he can create some feedback. Pretty neat-o! Dave Eichenberger- http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies > what on earth is he using here to rub strings? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IwjnT70Oi8&NR > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 3 23:39:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D05E3BEEC; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <13895112.1159918785491.JavaMail.pmimlitsch@mac.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:39:45 -0700 From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: trey gunn in-reply-to: <20061003225916.60677.qmail@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit references: <20061003225916.60677.qmail@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 71.229.131.202/instID=44 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:39:57 +0000 (UTC) If I remember correctly, I read a few years ago that he was experimenting with using a "Smokey Amp" as a feed back generator/ sustainer and also for percussive/ slide stuff. On Tuesday, October 03, 2006, at 03:59PM, L.A. Angulo wrote: >what on earth is he using here to rub strings? >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IwjnT70Oi8&NR > > >www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 4 02:22:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1503D3BEA7; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1ff201c6e75b$f12fce00$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <14f901c6e3cf$8b1fa480$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <2F8B8170-0578-40A4-AF04-85D79CDCAE0A@gmail.com> <155601c6e3db$c1215d10$e0c8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4522DA22.5000409@addcom.de> Subject: Re: MAX/MSP Conversion Complete... Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:22:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: <8Pr7ZB.A.1ZG.orxIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:22:32 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" is no need to invent the wheel again... > >> My guess is that it might be more difficult to build a MAX/MSP >> Blackbird equivalent, because MAX/MSP seems to start at a more >> fundamental level in terms of the building blocks of patches. I'd be >> blown away if a MAX/MSP programmer did this...because right now >> Blackbird (thanks to Dave Coffin who shared it with me) is my favorite >> patch of all, out of all my VSTs, etc. > > Is there a Reaktor demo which could load it to have a look? Yes indeed. You can download at the NI website. I'll even send you the blackbird ensemble, and you can see the internal workings. If you can make a MAX/MSP patch that emulates the Tangerine snap, I'll pay you $$$. > Usually if I hear inspiring sounds and recreate them in Max the end up > being very different and much better (thats a matter of taste of course > ;-) Exactly! Jeff Kaiser and I just created a emulation of a patch on my Boss VF-1...it is a dual pitch shifter with delay that feedbacks the pitch into itself, genrating some intense sounds. It is VERY close to the actual patch. Fun. You can hear the original VF1 patch here: http://box.net/public/khartung/files/301858.html I am converting it to VST this week to share. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 4 02:25:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 293B33BEB3; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <218D399F-84FA-4764-8FCD-5F8B729AEF75@gmail.com> References: <002001c6e489$29cf1ed0$0101a8c0@succubus> <218D399F-84FA-4764-8FCD-5F8B729AEF75@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Reese Ritherspoon Subject: Re: AW: random effects Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:25:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:25:55 +0000 (UTC) The Access Virus B (and indigo) has a random function with two controls - amount & intensity. 'amount' adjusts how many parameters will change, and 'intensity' affects how much. you can start with any program in the library with a relatively low setting and keep hitting 'random' until you work yourself into the most alien thing youve ever heard. your face being eaten by ants. jello being squeezed into a thousand tiny holes around the room. a very effective technique, especially if you're lacking inspiration, or smoke pot. this (of course) isn't an "effects unit" per say, its a virtual analog synth. it has basic onboard effects that are sort of crummy, and a pair of analog ins for filtering/effecting outside sources. nobody responded last time i asked, so ill ask again.......is there a consensus on the 'best' looper out there? is it the echoplex? please, answer me! or, let me know if i am asking wrong - i am new to the list. i know its kind of a nebulous question, but i really want something to start with that i can synch via midi and has multiple outs. happy tuesday, everyone. etienne de rithma www.rithma.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 4 02:44:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 232263BEB8; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I9X6oDU1Z5LHHZk2YYGWEDmzIjurbzsWkyUqZnJfjnDbR04MKyKAVkaX4zz82iG6WVhLuC1TRfILzDt6nYyqeZCwZlN+Ea5LINUirK7P0D6nb6bRapaagQry2n7+CH4jSdvtWM+TD3jsWlfr1kJ6cCM1HUoGUTIqA+8WnDvczm4= ; Message-ID: <20061004024435.9899.qmail@web51007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:44:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Murchison Subject: Re: AW: random effects To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2099029889-1159929875=:83351" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <2HZSkD.A.piH.UAyIFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/65296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:44:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-2099029889-1159929875=:83351 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You're going to get a lot of people saying that running software of some kind on a laptop is the best, and they probably wouldn't be too far from the truth. You definitely have lots of options and versatility that way. I personally want to stick to hardware (at least for the time being), and the EDP is the one I'm saving for. So to answer your question.... The EDP is the looper that I covet the most, so in my opinion that makes it "best". At least for me. Of course, there are lots of people that have migrated from the EDP and/or the Looperlative to a laptop, so at some point that's probably at least something to check out. Reese Ritherspoon