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wow,ive been checking out the manual of this FC very
powerful indeed,the only drawback is more tap dance
not enough switches,why on earth didnt they do this
with the FC-200? on the other hand,compact with a led
screen and its price tag aint bad for what it can do
thanx for the tip!
Luis
--- Mech wrote:
> At 6:55 PM +0200 10/29/07, Sjaak wrote:
> >Thanks for all your replies. It appeared that the
> FCB1010 was too
> >big to fit under my synth stand; second: my
> supplier told me that a
> >lot of the FCB's have been returned within a year
> due to hardware
> >failures..... So I have decided to buy the Roland
> FC-300
> >
> >First impression:
> >+ all pedals can be of type latch or momentary =>
> piano sustain can
> >be programmed :)
> >+ good positioning of all pedals
> >+ good visibility of green and red LED's on stage
> >+ easy to progam, no manual needed
> >+ build like a tank => as the FC-200
>
> I've got an FC-300 too, and this is a fine summary
> of many of its
> good points. Although you will probably need the
> manual to look up
> many of its more subtle functions.
>
> >- 1 global midi channel setting => it's not
> possible to store
> >different midi channel's with a pedal setting
>
> This is not correct at all.
>
> Ignore Standard and Control Modes (as well as Sysex
> Mode, unless
> you've got a VG-99). Those modes are worthless
> unless you want to
> dedicate the FC-300 to a single device, and I never
> even bother with
> them at all. The fourth Mode -- Patch Mode -- is
> where you want to
> be. In this Mode, the FC-300 will send MIDI
> messages to any MIDI
> channel, programmable per pedal.
>
> In fact, this is where the FC-300 gets over the
> MAJOR complaint I
> always had against the FCB-1010 (even though I've
> got one an FCB
> too): the expression pedals (not the switches) on
> the FCB could only
> ever be set to a single channel. So, for instance,
> you couldn't
> control Feedback on your Looper, then switch patches
> and use that
> same expression pedal to control, say, Filter Cutoff
> on a synth
> module.
>
> Not only can the FC-300 do that (I'm doing it with
> several different
> patches), but you can actually use a single pedal to
> control SIX
> different parameters simultaneously. These can each
> be on different
> MIDI channels if you like. You can not only scale
> the control range
> (parameter 1 may have a range of 0 - 127, while
> parameter 2 only has
> a range of 50 - 70), but you can also reverse the
> ranges of
> individual parameters (1 may have a range of 0 -
> 127, while 2 has a
> range of 127 - 0; accomplishing a nice little
> crossfade between
> sounds/effects, for instance).
>
> At Y2k7, for instance, I had programmed all the
> volume swells for the
> VG-99 into the right-most expression pedal (I could
> have easily done
> it by switching to SysEx Mode, but I wanted the
> convenience of
> staying in one Mode during the performance). The
> left expression
> pedal controlled a variety of different functions,
> depending upon
> patch: Feedback on my Looperlative channels; Volume
> of specific
> tracks; Feedback of the echo effect built into the
> VG; Speed of the
> Leslie effect on one Patch; Track Playback Speed on
> the LP-1; etc.,
> etc., etc.
>
> I kept the CTL 1 & CTL 2 switches the same on every
> patch (Rec/Dub,
> and Stop Now;Erase) for purposes of consistency, but
> I could have
> programmed those for independent functions per
> patch. Likewise, I
> attached an FS-6 footswitch for CTL 3 & 4, and
> dedicated those to
> Previous Track and Next Track functions on the
> Looperlative. The
> individual patches cycled through a variety of
> functions too numerous
> to name here.
>
> You imagine it, and you can probably program it in
> Patch Mode on the FC-300.
>
> >- only 1 control message per pedal
>
> Again, not correct.
>
> In Patch Mode, you can actually send multiple
> messages to multiple
> channels (up to 6 messages, IIRC) on pedal press.
> In addition, you
> can send an additional 6 messages on pedal release.
> The pedal
> release messages can be programmed (per pedal) to
> fire off on either
> physical release (good for Note Off messages, so you
> can turn it into
> a set of MIDI bass pedals, or whatever etc.). Or
> they can be delayed
> until the next pedal is pressed, so that the release
> messages are
> fired off just prior to the next pedal's messages
> are sent. This
> latter function might be good, for instance, for
> setting up a series
> of chords that sound until the next "chord" pedal is
> pressed, at
> which time all the appropriate Note Off's are sent
> before the new
> chord's Note On's arrive).
>
> Look, even though I was extremely skeptical at
> first, this thing will
> in fact practically mow the lawn. It does
> everything except for
> "roll your own" SysEx (and it will do GM SysEx as
> well as NRPN stuff;
> you just can't program in an entire Hex String from
> scratch). That's
> something that I actually use pretty rarely these
> days anyway.
>
> I'm using it to replace my Digitech PMC-10, which is
> no longer being
> manufactured of course. That's how good it is. And
> at a price of
> only about $300, it's less costly than many of the
> other "full
> featured" MIDI pedals out on the market today
> (Ground Control Pro,
> etc.).
>
> Sjaak, dig a bit more into the programming on the
> FC-300. I'm
> confident that with a bit of work, you'll find most,
> if not all, of
> your misgivings will quickly evaporate.
>
> --m.
> --
> _____
> "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...."
>
>
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hi luis and all,
does anybody know if this could be of any use for us loopers?
its price is under 100... possibly max could understand all incoming
data and convert it conveniently. just quick thought.
http://www.digitech.com/products/controlx.htm
raul.
2007/12/1, L.A. Angulo :
>
> wow,ive been checking out the manual of this FC very
> powerful indeed,the only drawback is more tap dance
> not enough switches,why on earth didnt they do this
> with the FC-200? on the other hand,compact with a led
> screen and its price tag aint bad for what it can do
> thanx for the tip!
> Luis
>
>
> --- Mech wrote:
>
> > At 6:55 PM +0200 10/29/07, Sjaak wrote:
> > >Thanks for all your replies. It appeared that the
> > FCB1010 was too
> > >big to fit under my synth stand; second: my
> > supplier told me that a
> > >lot of the FCB's have been returned within a year
> > due to hardware
> > >failures..... So I have decided to buy the Roland
> > FC-300
> > >
> > >First impression:
> > >+ all pedals can be of type latch or momentary =>
> > piano sustain can
> > >be programmed :)
> > >+ good positioning of all pedals
> > >+ good visibility of green and red LED's on stage
> > >+ easy to progam, no manual needed
> > >+ build like a tank => as the FC-200
> >
> > I've got an FC-300 too, and this is a fine summary
> > of many of its
> > good points. Although you will probably need the
> > manual to look up
> > many of its more subtle functions.
> >
> > >- 1 global midi channel setting => it's not
> > possible to store
> > >different midi channel's with a pedal setting
> >
> > This is not correct at all.
> >
> > Ignore Standard and Control Modes (as well as Sysex
> > Mode, unless
> > you've got a VG-99). Those modes are worthless
> > unless you want to
> > dedicate the FC-300 to a single device, and I never
> > even bother with
> > them at all. The fourth Mode -- Patch Mode -- is
> > where you want to
> > be. In this Mode, the FC-300 will send MIDI
> > messages to any MIDI
> > channel, programmable per pedal.
> >
> > In fact, this is where the FC-300 gets over the
> > MAJOR complaint I
> > always had against the FCB-1010 (even though I've
> > got one an FCB
> > too): the expression pedals (not the switches) on
> > the FCB could only
> > ever be set to a single channel. So, for instance,
> > you couldn't
> > control Feedback on your Looper, then switch patches
> > and use that
> > same expression pedal to control, say, Filter Cutoff
> > on a synth
> > module.
> >
> > Not only can the FC-300 do that (I'm doing it with
> > several different
> > patches), but you can actually use a single pedal to
> > control SIX
> > different parameters simultaneously. These can each
> > be on different
> > MIDI channels if you like. You can not only scale
> > the control range
> > (parameter 1 may have a range of 0 - 127, while
> > parameter 2 only has
> > a range of 50 - 70), but you can also reverse the
> > ranges of
> > individual parameters (1 may have a range of 0 -
> > 127, while 2 has a
> > range of 127 - 0; accomplishing a nice little
> > crossfade between
> > sounds/effects, for instance).
> >
> > At Y2k7, for instance, I had programmed all the
> > volume swells for the
> > VG-99 into the right-most expression pedal (I could
> > have easily done
> > it by switching to SysEx Mode, but I wanted the
> > convenience of
> > staying in one Mode during the performance). The
> > left expression
> > pedal controlled a variety of different functions,
> > depending upon
> > patch: Feedback on my Looperlative channels; Volume
> > of specific
> > tracks; Feedback of the echo effect built into the
> > VG; Speed of the
> > Leslie effect on one Patch; Track Playback Speed on
> > the LP-1; etc.,
> > etc., etc.
> >
> > I kept the CTL 1 & CTL 2 switches the same on every
> > patch (Rec/Dub,
> > and Stop Now;Erase) for purposes of consistency, but
> > I could have
> > programmed those for independent functions per
> > patch. Likewise, I
> > attached an FS-6 footswitch for CTL 3 & 4, and
> > dedicated those to
> > Previous Track and Next Track functions on the
> > Looperlative. The
> > individual patches cycled through a variety of
> > functions too numerous
> > to name here.
> >
> > You imagine it, and you can probably program it in
> > Patch Mode on the FC-300.
> >
> > >- only 1 control message per pedal
> >
> > Again, not correct.
> >
> > In Patch Mode, you can actually send multiple
> > messages to multiple
> > channels (up to 6 messages, IIRC) on pedal press.
> > In addition, you
> > can send an additional 6 messages on pedal release.
> > The pedal
> > release messages can be programmed (per pedal) to
> > fire off on either
> > physical release (good for Note Off messages, so you
> > can turn it into
> > a set of MIDI bass pedals, or whatever etc.). Or
> > they can be delayed
> > until the next pedal is pressed, so that the release
> > messages are
> > fired off just prior to the next pedal's messages
> > are sent. This
> > latter function might be good, for instance, for
> > setting up a series
> > of chords that sound until the next "chord" pedal is
> > pressed, at
> > which time all the appropriate Note Off's are sent
> > before the new
> > chord's Note On's arrive).
> >
> > Look, even though I was extremely skeptical at
> > first, this thing will
> > in fact practically mow the lawn. It does
> > everything except for
> > "roll your own" SysEx (and it will do GM SysEx as
> > well as NRPN stuff;
> > you just can't program in an entire Hex String from
> > scratch). That's
> > something that I actually use pretty rarely these
> > days anyway.
> >
> > I'm using it to replace my Digitech PMC-10, which is
> > no longer being
> > manufactured of course. That's how good it is. And
> > at a price of
> > only about $300, it's less costly than many of the
> > other "full
> > featured" MIDI pedals out on the market today
> > (Ground Control Pro,
> > etc.).
> >
> > Sjaak, dig a bit more into the programming on the
> > FC-300. I'm
> > confident that with a bit of work, you'll find most,
> > if not all, of
> > your misgivings will quickly evaporate.
> >
> > --m.
> > --
> > _____
> > "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...."
> >
> >
>
>
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
>
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hi luis and all,
does anybody know if this could be of any use for us loopers?
its price is under 100... possibly max could understand all incoming
data and convert it conveniently. just quick thought.
http://www.digitech.com/products/controlx.htm
raul.
2007/12/1, L.A. Angulo <
labaloops@yahoo.com>:wow,ive been checking out the manual of this FC very
powerful indeed,the only drawback is more tap dance
not enough switches,why on earth didnt they do this
with the FC-200? on the other hand,compact with a led
screen and its price tag aint bad for what it can do
thanx for the tip!
Luis
--- Mech <
mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> At 6:55 PM +0200 10/29/07, Sjaak wrote:
> >Thanks for all your replies. It appeared that the
> FCB1010 was too
> >big to fit under my synth stand; second: my
> supplier told me that a
> >lot of the FCB's have been returned within a year
> due to hardware
> >failures..... So I have decided to buy the Roland
> FC-300
> >
> >First impression:
> >+ all pedals can be of type latch or momentary =>
> piano sustain can
> >be programmed :)
> >+ good positioning of all pedals
> >+ good visibility of green and red LED's on stage
> >+ easy to progam, no manual needed
> >+ build like a tank => as the FC-200
>
> I've got an FC-300 too, and this is a fine summary
> of many of its
> good points. Although you will probably need the
> manual to look up
> many of its more subtle functions.
>
> >- 1 global midi channel setting => it's not
> possible to store
> >different midi channel's with a pedal setting
>
> This is not correct at all.
>
> Ignore Standard and Control Modes (as well as Sysex
> Mode, unless
> you've got a VG-99). Those modes are worthless
> unless you want to
> dedicate the FC-300 to a single device, and I never
> even bother with
> them at all. The fourth Mode -- Patch Mode -- is
> where you want to
> be. In this Mode, the FC-300 will send MIDI
> messages to any MIDI
> channel, programmable per pedal.
>
> In fact, this is where the FC-300 gets over the
> MAJOR complaint I
> always had against the FCB-1010 (even though I've
> got one an FCB
> too): the expression pedals (not the switches) on
> the FCB could only
> ever be set to a single channel. So, for instance,
> you couldn't
> control Feedback on your Looper, then switch patches
> and use that
> same expression pedal to control, say, Filter Cutoff
> on a synth
> module.
>
> Not only can the FC-300 do that (I'm doing it with
> several different
> patches), but you can actually use a single pedal to
> control SIX
> different parameters simultaneously. These can each
> be on different
> MIDI channels if you like. You can not only scale
> the control range
> (parameter 1 may have a range of 0 - 127, while
> parameter 2 only has
> a range of 50 - 70), but you can also reverse the
> ranges of
> individual parameters (1 may have a range of 0 -
> 127, while 2 has a
> range of 127 - 0; accomplishing a nice little
> crossfade between
> sounds/effects, for instance).
>
> At Y2k7, for instance, I had programmed all the
> volume swells for the
> VG-99 into the right-most expression pedal (I could
> have easily done
> it by switching to SysEx Mode, but I wanted the
> convenience of
> staying in one Mode during the performance). The
> left expression
> pedal controlled a variety of different functions,
> depending upon
> patch: Feedback on my Looperlative channels; Volume
> of specific
> tracks; Feedback of the echo effect built into the
> VG; Speed of the
> Leslie effect on one Patch; Track Playback Speed on
> the LP-1; etc.,
> etc., etc.
>
> I kept the CTL 1 & CTL 2 switches the same on every
> patch (Rec/Dub,
> and Stop Now;Erase) for purposes of consistency, but
> I could have
> programmed those for independent functions per
> patch. Likewise, I
> attached an FS-6 footswitch for CTL 3 & 4, and
> dedicated those to
> Previous Track and Next Track functions on the
> Looperlative. The
> individual patches cycled through a variety of
> functions too numerous
> to name here.
>
> You imagine it, and you can probably program it in
> Patch Mode on the FC-300.
>
> >- only 1 control message per pedal
>
> Again, not correct.
>
> In Patch Mode, you can actually send multiple
> messages to multiple
> channels (up to 6 messages, IIRC) on pedal press.
> In addition, you
> can send an additional 6 messages on pedal release.
> The pedal
> release messages can be programmed (per pedal) to
> fire off on either
> physical release (good for Note Off messages, so you
> can turn it into
> a set of MIDI bass pedals, or whatever etc.). Or
> they can be delayed
> until the next pedal is pressed, so that the release
> messages are
> fired off just prior to the next pedal's messages
> are sent. This
> latter function might be good, for instance, for
> setting up a series
> of chords that sound until the next "chord" pedal is
> pressed, at
> which time all the appropriate Note Off's are sent
> before the new
> chord's Note On's arrive).
>
> Look, even though I was extremely skeptical at
> first, this thing will
> in fact practically mow the lawn. It does
> everything except for
> "roll your own" SysEx (and it will do GM SysEx as
> well as NRPN stuff;
> you just can't program in an entire Hex String from
> scratch). That's
> something that I actually use pretty rarely these
> days anyway.
>
> I'm using it to replace my Digitech PMC-10, which is
> no longer being
> manufactured of course. That's how good it is. And
> at a price of
> only about $300, it's less costly than many of the
> other "full
> featured" MIDI pedals out on the market today
> (Ground Control Pro,
> etc.).
>
> Sjaak, dig a bit more into the programming on the
> FC-300. I'm
> confident that with a bit of work, you'll find most,
> if not all, of
> your misgivings will quickly evaporate.
>
> --m.
> --
> _____
> "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...."
>
>
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
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From: Per Boysen
Subject: Re: FC-300
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:16:08 +0100
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On 1 dec 2007, at 12.59, Raul Bonell wrote:
> does anybody know if this could be of any use for us loopers?
> its price is under 100... possibly max could understand all incoming
> data and convert it conveniently. just quick thought.
>
> http://www.digitech.com/products/controlx.htm
>
> raul.
The manual is here:
http://www.americanmusical.com/manuals/digitech/dodcontrolx_manual.pdf
From a quick read-through of the manual I wasn't able to detect
which MIDI events the pedal's buttons and pedals send out. No MIDI
specification chart included in the manual. I would not buy one of
these for external MIDI control on basis of the poor information
given online. If you want to buy it in a store it's an easy thing to
hook up something to the MIDI outputs and find out what it sends. And
of course, you need to know which MIDI events you need for your looper.
Greetings from Sweden
Per Boysen
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Ahh... si, Per just looking for some tiny and cheap MIDI controlers
of any kind.. same as this behringer,
http://www.behringer.com/BCN44/index.cfm?lang=eng
which i own one and lets me do some manual crossfades
and quick tweakings with midi learn function..
... or this beauty ...
http://www.orangeamps.com/crush/microcrush/
I find small gear amusing and... cheaper!
Thanks for the info Per,
raul.
2007/12/1, Per Boysen :
>
> On 1 dec 2007, at 12.59, Raul Bonell wrote:
>
> > does anybody know if this could be of any use for us loopers?
> > its price is under 100... possibly max could understand all incoming
> > data and convert it conveniently. just quick thought.
> >
> > http://www.digitech.com/products/controlx.htm
> >
> > raul.
>
>
> The manual is here:
> http://www.americanmusical.com/manuals/digitech/dodcontrolx_manual.pdf
>
> From a quick read-through of the manual I wasn't able to detect
> which MIDI events the pedal's buttons and pedals send out. No MIDI
> specification chart included in the manual. I would not buy one of
> these for external MIDI control on basis of the poor information
> given online. If you want to buy it in a store it's an easy thing to
> hook up something to the MIDI outputs and find out what it sends. And
> of course, you need to know which MIDI events you need for your looper.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se (Swedish)
> www.looproom.com (international)
> http://www.youtube.com/pellibox (gritty)
>
>
>
>
>
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Ahh... si, Per just looking for some tiny and cheap MIDI controlers
of any kind.. same as this behringer,
http://www.behringer.com/BCN44/index.cfm?lang=eng
which i own one and lets me do some manual crossfades
and quick tweakings with midi learn function..
... or this beauty ...
http://www.orangeamps.com/crush/microcrush/
I find small gear amusing and... cheaper!
Thanks for the info Per,
raul.
2007/12/1, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
On 1 dec 2007, at 12.59, Raul Bonell wrote:
> does anybody know if this could be of any use for us loopers?
> its price is under 100... possibly max could understand all incoming
> data and convert it conveniently. just quick thought.
>
> http://www.digitech.com/products/controlx.htm
>
> raul.
The manual is here:
http://www.americanmusical.com/manuals/digitech/dodcontrolx_manual.pdf
From a quick read-through of the manual I wasn't able to detect
which MIDI events the pedal's buttons and pedals send out. No MIDI
specification chart included in the manual. I would not buy one of
these for external MIDI control on basis of the poor information
given online. If you want to buy it in a store it's an easy thing to
hook up something to the MIDI outputs and find out what it sends. And
of course, you need to know which MIDI events you need for your looper.
Greetings from Sweden
Per Boysen
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>> does anybody know if this could be of any use for us loopers?
> The manual is here:
> http://www.americanmusical.com/manuals/digitech/dodcontrolx_manual.pdf
>
Copied from page three of the manual:
"NOTE : The Control X is NOT a MIDI device and is to be used only with
DigiTech GENETX TM processors."
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Thank you all for your suggestions. I have yet to check some of them =
out.
Sorry for my slow response to them, as I'm only online to this account =
once
a week.
Further clarifications:
1 - Footpedal is a must - I'm looking for alternatives to current =
rack-gear.
2 - It will probably be a delay-based unit with an ability to modulate =
the
delayed signal, letting pass through a dry signal too
Previous suggestions:
- Space Station - does not provide this (I have 2)
- PS 3 / 5 - I don't think they do this (though it's been a while since =
I
used either - I'll have to look into them more)
- Digitech PDS 8000 - does not provide this (I have 1)
- Line6 DL4 - after all these years, I still have never tried one of =
these -
Now I have an excuse! :-)
- Memory Man Deluxe - again, I've never tried one. The only EH effect =
I've
owned was HotTubes back in the 80's. I need to check this out.
- Eventide Time Factor - Oh Wow!!! I know I want to try one of these!
Thanks for the tip Mr. Walker!
- Digitech RP2000 / GNX boxes - a bit bigger than I am hoping for, but
clearly they do quite a bit more, too! :-)
I appreciate everyone's help with this!! Does anyone else have some =
ideas?
David
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 1:25 AM, David Kirkdorffer =
wrote:
> > Hi - perhaps you guys can help me?? I'm looking for a delay =
footpedal
that
> > can also bend pitch at the same time. That is, as the slaps happen,
their
> > picti is being altered up and down a little... as would happen with =
a
> > chorus. I need at least 500ms of delay.
> >
> >
> > Many thanks!
> >
> > David
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David
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 1:25 AM, David Kirkdorffer <
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I believe the problem you are having is caused by the fact the Oberheim =
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I hope that helps somehow.
David
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I've been having some serious EDP heartburn lately and I am thinking =
about switching to Mobius or another software looper.
My Gibson EDP tweaked out on me, so I replaced it with an Oberheim =
EDP. Big mistake. When synched to my MIDI sequencer the Oberheim moves =
the start point of the second loop... and everything is off. Forget =
workarounds - I WANT SOMETHING THAT WORKS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO (like my =
gibson echoplex before I ruined it).
So now I am going to sell my EDP and buy a PC for Mobius. Any =
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Uhg,
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Uhg,
Adam
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true... could be smaller.
but's very cheap... under 30 euros.
2007/12/1, Tilmann Dehnhard :
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> http://www.behringer.com/BCN44/index.cfm?lang=eng
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>
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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/071129.html
Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
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Show #557 November 29, 2007
RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Paul Ellis. The
Featured CD at Midnight was "The Infinity Room" on Groove Unlimited
Records.
Paul Ellis: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#nov
PLAYLIST:
11:04 pm
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Radio Massacre International Interview
Radio Massacre 200 Mushrooms -- Lost In Space (Northern Echo)
International
Synth.nl Lift AeroDynamics (Groove)
Arcane Hymn Pulse (none)
Klaus Schulze The Art of Dosburg Online (Revisited)
Sequencing *
12:00 am
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Paul Ellis Tick Tock The Infinity Room (Groove)
Paul Ellis The Realms of the The Infinity Room (Groove)
Unreal
Paul Ellis Forever Endeavor The Infinity Room (Groove)
Paul Ellis Flesh and Blood The Infinity Room (Groove)
Paul Ellis The Unveiling The Infinity Room (Groove)
Moment
Paul Ellis MirrororriM The Infinity Room (Groove)
1:00 am
* = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview
NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Craig
Padilla. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Folding Space and Melting
Galaxies" on Space for Music Records.
Bill
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Wouldn't buy two same-model crystals, and installing them in your two EDP's
(Obie-Gibson mix) solve the timing problem, or are there compatibility
issues between the crystal models and the mfg designs?
On Dec 1, 2007 11:31 AM, David Kirkdorffer wrote:
> Adam -
>
> I believe the problem you are having is caused by the fact the Oberheim
> and Gibson EDP production runs use different crystals for clocking. I had
> an Oberheim unit, and bought a second EDP unit from Gibson to make a stereo
> pair. They would not synch-up. I learned about the crystal issue, got a
> second Gibson EDP, and the two EDPs lock up well.
>
> I hope that helps somehow.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Adam Hart
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:33 PM
> *Subject:* Burned by Oberheim EDP... switching to Mobius?
>
> I've been having some serious EDP heartburn lately and I am thinking about
> switching to Mobius or another software looper.
>
> My Gibson EDP tweaked out on me, so I replaced it with an Oberheim EDP.
> Big mistake. When synched to my MIDI sequencer the Oberheim moves the start
> point of the second loop... and everything is off. Forget workarounds - I
> WANT SOMETHING THAT WORKS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO (like my gibson echoplex
> before I ruined it).
>
> So now I am going to sell my EDP and buy a PC for Mobius. Any thoughts on
> how much RAM I need? I tried searching for the answer on the archives but I
> couldn't find anything.
>
>
> Uhg,
>
> Adam
>
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Wouldn't buy two same-model crystals, and installing them in your two EDP's (Obie-Gibson mix) solve the timing problem, or are there compatibility issues between the crystal models and the mfg designs?
On Dec 1, 2007 11:31 AM, David Kirkdorffer <
vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote:
Adam -
I believe the problem you are having is caused by
the fact the Oberheim and Gibson EDP production runs use different crystals for
clocking. I had an Oberheim unit, and bought a second EDP unit from Gibson
to make a stereo pair. They would not synch-up. I learned about the
crystal issue, got a second Gibson EDP, and the two EDPs lock up
well.
I hope that helps somehow.
David
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:33
PM
Subject: Burned by Oberheim EDP...
switching to Mobius?
I've
been having some serious EDP heartburn lately and I am thinking about
switching to Mobius or another software looper.
My Gibson EDP tweaked
out on me, so I replaced it with an Oberheim EDP. Big mistake.
When synched to my MIDI sequencer the Oberheim moves the start point of the
second loop... and everything is off. Forget workarounds - I WANT
SOMETHING THAT WORKS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO (like my gibson echoplex before I
ruined it).
So now I am going to sell my EDP and buy a PC for
Mobius. Any thoughts on how much RAM I need? I tried searching for
the answer on the archives but I couldn't find
anything.
Uhg,
Adam
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From: "L.A. Angulo"
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looks like another average FC,and with no MIDI info is
kind of suspect... offcourse it depends what you want
to control with it.
Luis
--- Raul Bonell wrote:
> hi luis and all,
>
> does anybody know if this could be of any use for us
> loopers?
> its price is under 100... possibly max could
> understand all incoming
> data and convert it conveniently. just quick
> thought.
>
> http://www.digitech.com/products/controlx.htm
>
> raul.
>
> 2007/12/1, L.A. Angulo :
> >
> > wow,ive been checking out the manual of this FC
> very
> > powerful indeed,the only drawback is more tap
> dance
> > not enough switches,why on earth didnt they do
> this
> > with the FC-200? on the other hand,compact with a
> led
> > screen and its price tag aint bad for what it can
> do
> > thanx for the tip!
> > Luis
> >
> >
> > --- Mech wrote:
> >
> > > At 6:55 PM +0200 10/29/07, Sjaak wrote:
> > > >Thanks for all your replies. It appeared that
> the
> > > FCB1010 was too
> > > >big to fit under my synth stand; second: my
> > > supplier told me that a
> > > >lot of the FCB's have been returned within a
> year
> > > due to hardware
> > > >failures..... So I have decided to buy the
> Roland
> > > FC-300
> > > >
> > > >First impression:
> > > >+ all pedals can be of type latch or momentary
> =>
> > > piano sustain can
> > > >be programmed :)
> > > >+ good positioning of all pedals
> > > >+ good visibility of green and red LED's on
> stage
> > > >+ easy to progam, no manual needed
> > > >+ build like a tank => as the FC-200
> > >
> > > I've got an FC-300 too, and this is a fine
> summary
> > > of many of its
> > > good points. Although you will probably need
> the
> > > manual to look up
> > > many of its more subtle functions.
> > >
> > > >- 1 global midi channel setting => it's not
> > > possible to store
> > > >different midi channel's with a pedal setting
> > >
> > > This is not correct at all.
> > >
> > > Ignore Standard and Control Modes (as well as
> Sysex
> > > Mode, unless
> > > you've got a VG-99). Those modes are worthless
> > > unless you want to
> > > dedicate the FC-300 to a single device, and I
> never
> > > even bother with
> > > them at all. The fourth Mode -- Patch Mode --
> is
> > > where you want to
> > > be. In this Mode, the FC-300 will send MIDI
> > > messages to any MIDI
> > > channel, programmable per pedal.
> > >
> > > In fact, this is where the FC-300 gets over the
> > > MAJOR complaint I
> > > always had against the FCB-1010 (even though
> I've
> > > got one an FCB
> > > too): the expression pedals (not the switches)
> on
> > > the FCB could only
> > > ever be set to a single channel. So, for
> instance,
> > > you couldn't
> > > control Feedback on your Looper, then switch
> patches
> > > and use that
> > > same expression pedal to control, say, Filter
> Cutoff
> > > on a synth
> > > module.
> > >
> > > Not only can the FC-300 do that (I'm doing it
> with
> > > several different
> > > patches), but you can actually use a single
> pedal to
> > > control SIX
> > > different parameters simultaneously. These can
> each
> > > be on different
> > > MIDI channels if you like. You can not only
> scale
> > > the control range
> > > (parameter 1 may have a range of 0 - 127, while
> > > parameter 2 only has
> > > a range of 50 - 70), but you can also reverse
> the
> > > ranges of
> > > individual parameters (1 may have a range of 0 -
> > > 127, while 2 has a
> > > range of 127 - 0; accomplishing a nice little
> > > crossfade between
> > > sounds/effects, for instance).
> > >
> > > At Y2k7, for instance, I had programmed all the
> > > volume swells for the
> > > VG-99 into the right-most expression pedal (I
> could
> > > have easily done
> > > it by switching to SysEx Mode, but I wanted the
> > > convenience of
> > > staying in one Mode during the performance).
> The
> > > left expression
> > > pedal controlled a variety of different
> functions,
> > > depending upon
> > > patch: Feedback on my Looperlative channels;
> Volume
> > > of specific
> > > tracks; Feedback of the echo effect built into
> the
> > > VG; Speed of the
> > > Leslie effect on one Patch; Track Playback Speed
> on
> > > the LP-1; etc.,
> > > etc., etc.
> > >
> > > I kept the CTL 1 & CTL 2 switches the same on
> every
> > > patch (Rec/Dub,
> > > and Stop Now;Erase) for purposes of consistency,
> but
> > > I could have
> > > programmed those for independent functions per
> > > patch. Likewise, I
> > > attached an FS-6 footswitch for CTL 3 & 4, and
> > > dedicated those to
> > > Previous Track and Next Track functions on the
> > > Looperlative. The
> > > individual patches cycled through a variety of
> > > functions too numerous
> > > to name here.
> > >
> > > You imagine it, and you can probably program it
> in
> > > Patch Mode on the FC-300.
> > >
> > > >- only 1 control message per pedal
> > >
> > > Again, not correct.
> > >
> > > In Patch Mode, you can actually send multiple
> > > messages to multiple
> > > channels (up to 6 messages, IIRC) on pedal
> press.
> > > In addition, you
> > > can send an additional 6 messages on pedal
> release.
> > > The pedal
> > > release messages can be programmed (per pedal)
> to
> > > fire off on either
> > > physical release (good for Note Off messages, so
> you
> > > can turn it into
> > > a set of MIDI bass pedals, or whatever etc.).
> Or
> > > they can be delayed
> > > until the next pedal is pressed, so that the
> release
> > > messages are
> > > fired off just prior to the next pedal's
> messages
> > > are sent. This
> > > latter function might be good, for instance, for
> > > setting up a series
> > > of chords that sound until the next "chord"
> pedal is
>
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Yes, that would solve it.
The only difference between the old crystals and the new ones
is that the new ones are more accurate as to frequency.
andy butler
ps don't anyone get confused with the chips that have "crystal" written on them,
that's not the right component
Mikkoz wrote:
> Wouldn't buy two same-model crystals, and installing them in your two
> EDP's (Obie-Gibson mix) solve the timing problem, or are there
> compatibility issues between the crystal models and the mfg designs?
>
> On Dec 1, 2007 11:31 AM, David Kirkdorffer > wrote:
>
> Adam -
>
> I believe the problem you are having is caused by the fact the
> Oberheim and Gibson EDP production runs use different crystals for
> clocking. I had an Oberheim unit, and bought a second EDP unit from
> Gibson to make a stereo pair. They would not synch-up. I learned
> about the crystal issue, got a second Gibson EDP, and the two EDPs
> lock up well.
>
> I hope that helps somehow.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Adam Hart
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:33 PM
> *Subject:* Burned by Oberheim EDP... switching to Mobius?
>
> I've been having some serious EDP heartburn lately and I am
> thinking about switching to Mobius or another software looper.
>
> My Gibson EDP tweaked out on me, so I replaced it with an
> Oberheim EDP. Big mistake. When synched to my MIDI sequencer
> the Oberheim moves the start point of the second loop... and
> everything is off. Forget workarounds - I WANT SOMETHING THAT
> WORKS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO (like my gibson echoplex before I
> ruined it).
>
> So now I am going to sell my EDP and buy a PC for Mobius. Any
> thoughts on how much RAM I need? I tried searching for the
> answer on the archives but I couldn't find anything.
>
>
> Uhg,
>
> Adam
>
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hi Luis,
that's exactly the kind of device I had in mind.
I have one by Philip Rees which does the same job,
...or would if I could find it.
I can't guarantee it'll make a big difference, I haven't tried it, and
anyway my edps haven't de-synced for quite a while now using the normal
system. (if they go bad again, I'll be able to test)
...but the edp processes audio in small blocks, and starting both edps
at the exact same time hopefully synchronises the block boundaries.
Incidently,
My technique for re-syncing( which can be done quite quickly) is
to change the Slave EDP to sync=In, remove the bro-sync cable,
and do Mute-Multiply on the slave.
In some circumstances, that saves the piece
(but of course, they de-sync again when you overdub)
Andre Lafosse has some sort of Midi Router box, so he can switch
one midi source to different combinations of edps.
(that might be even better, as you could use it to control edps
together or independently.
andy
L.A. Angulo wrote:
> Hey Andy,
> so you think something like this would work to make
> the 2 EDPs sync better?
>
> http://www.thomann.de/de/midi_solutions_thru.htm
>
> i tried puting a different source# on the second EDP
> to play with them unsynced which works just fine and
> man lots of new fun!but it would still be nice to have
> a screen on the foot controller to know which edp is
> being controlled,i do loose it every once in a
> while,are you also doing the unsynced dance with your
> new gordius?
> cheers
> Luis
>
>> also I had an idea to improve the sync which you
>> might
>> like to try instead.
>> I didn't get to try it yet.
>> Use a midi splitter to connect the fcb to the 2 edps
>> instead of chaining them.
>>
>> Don't know, but that may help the de-syncing.
>> ( because then each edp gets exactly the same signal
>> at exactly the same time )
>> andy
>>
>>
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Hi, all:
I thought I'd ask this august group what they think of the design collaboration between Line 6 and Bogner. I'm seriously thinking of getting one of the Spider Valve amps (as I just sold mine). From what I heard on Line6's website, this amp looks very impressive. The price point of the single speaker 40 W version isn't bad ($699.99) for a tube amp. Plus, it has the added Line 6 pre-amp and effects (and cool-looking purple & gold lights!). I primarily play and record at home so this amp seems like a good fit. I've had several amps that had a "tube" for warming purposes, etc. and would like to get a tube amp.
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I thought I'd ask this august group what they think of the design collaboration between Line 6 and Bogner. I'm seriously thinking of getting one of the Spider Valve amps (as I just sold mine). From what I heard on Line6's website, this amp looks very impressive. The price point of the single speaker 40 W version isn't bad ($699.99) for a tube amp. Plus, it has the added Line 6 pre-amp and effects (and cool-looking purple & gold lights!). I primarily play and record at home so this amp seems like a good fit. I've had several amps that had a "tube" for warming purposes, etc. and would like to get a tube amp.
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Hey gang
I was sniffing around the old Mackie D8B forum and saw a beautiful D8B
and what looks like an Argosy setup for it. I bet it's cheap and I can
tell you these old boards are remarkable.
http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;
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I used mine to mix my daughter's (Canadian) hit record... and now she's
just signed in the UK and soon in the US. Her first single was stuck
in the top ten for like 24 weeks and now the second single's climbing
the chart. Third single comes out in Feb and we're hoping for all
three to be on the chart!
The record has also been submitted for a Juno (canadian grammy) for
Best Engineered Album of the year.
These are very good digital mixers. They SOUND good.
I don't get anything out of this recommendation. Just thought someone
might be interested.
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Hey gang
I was sniffing around the old Mackie D8B forum and saw a beautiful D8B
and what looks like an Argosy setup for it. I bet it's cheap and I
can tell you these old boards are remarkable.
http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009529
I used mine to mix my daughter's (Canadian) hit record... and now
she's just signed in the UK and soon in the US. Her first single was
stuck in the top ten for like 24 weeks and now the second single's
climbing the chart. Third single comes out in Feb and we're hoping
for all three to be on the chart!
The record has also been submitted for a Juno (canadian grammy) for
Best Engineered Album of the year.
These are very good digital mixers. They SOUND good.
I don't get anything out of this recommendation. Just thought someone
might be interested.
Gadgetrichard sales
7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio
vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C
www.glassWing.com
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Norman Fairbanks released a new album "7 Days Microsleep",
made with Yamaha's Tenori-on.
The album can be downloaded from
http://www.normanfairbanks.com/
(cf.
http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_europe/uk/service/070_news_events/20071113_tenori_on_MusicLive/index.html)
It seems Tenori-on is more than just a nice toy (my first impression).
Michal
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On 2 dec 2007, at 22.20, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski wrote:
> Norman Fairbanks released a new album "7 Days Microsleep",
> made with Yamaha's Tenori-on.
> The album can be downloaded from
> http://www.normanfairbanks.com/
Listening now and... wow - this is awesome music! _Thanks you for =20
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Howdy,
Growing up on a dairy farm, we had 1, then 2 silos
for storing cattle forage for winter. When they were
empty, the reverb in them was TREMENDOUS. I never
timed it but it is long. They are 18 feet in diameter
and 50 feet high. Someday, when I move back to the
farm, I amgoing to take the now unused silos and put
different mic/speaker setups in them and experiment
with a GIANT reverb chamber. I will build a round
plate, hoisted from the top to allow it to be adjusted
to any height within the silo thereby altering reverb
lenght. Different suface textures on the 18 foot plate
will regulate damping. Also on the floor. It ought to
be interesting. Natural reverb from a LARGE
cylindrical acoustic chamber.
Also, we have a large long corn bunker that when I
was a kid, I noticed it provided slapback echos when
yelling from the front to the back. There again is a
natural acoustic chamber that will be interesting to
try. Move the mic/speaker setup distance to the back
wall for different echo time. Plus a bit of reverb
thrown in. I hated growing up on the farm. All work,
no play. But now that the farm buildings are unused
except for storage, there are all sorts of natural
acoustic treatments to be toyed with.
Rig
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There's a pedestrian tunnel where I work - it's about 10-15ft square and about 400ft. long. Stand at one end and clap, the echo's about 1/2 sec.
I showed Paul Haslem (the world's only looping dulcimer guy) and he thought it was pretty neat, too.
ted.
bill bigrig wrote: Howdy,
Growing up on a dairy farm, we had 1, then 2 silos
for storing cattle forage for winter. When they were
empty, the reverb in them was TREMENDOUS. I never
timed it but it is long. They are 18 feet in diameter
and 50 feet high. Someday, when I move back to the
farm, I amgoing to take the now unused silos and put
different mic/speaker setups in them and experiment
with a GIANT reverb chamber. I will build a round
plate, hoisted from the top to allow it to be adjusted
to any height within the silo thereby altering reverb
lenght. Different suface textures on the 18 foot plate
will regulate damping. Also on the floor. It ought to
be interesting. Natural reverb from a LARGE
cylindrical acoustic chamber.
Also, we have a large long corn bunker that when I
was a kid, I noticed it provided slapback echos when
yelling from the front to the back. There again is a
natural acoustic chamber that will be interesting to
try. Move the mic/speaker setup distance to the back
wall for different echo time. Plus a bit of reverb
thrown in. I hated growing up on the farm. All work,
no play. But now that the farm buildings are unused
except for storage, there are all sorts of natural
acoustic treatments to be toyed with.
Rig
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There's a pedestrian tunnel where I work - it's about 10-15ft square and about 400ft. long. Stand at one end and clap, the echo's about 1/2 sec.
I showed Paul Haslem (the world's only looping dulcimer guy) and he thought it was pretty neat, too.
ted.
bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote: Howdy,
Growing up on a dairy farm, we had 1, then 2 silos
for storing cattle forage for winter. When they were
empty, the reverb in them was TREMENDOUS. I never
timed it but it is long. They are 18 feet in diameter
and 50 feet high. Someday, when I move back to the
farm, I amgoing to take the now unused silos and put
different mic/speaker setups in them and experiment
with a GIANT reverb chamber. I will build a round
plate, hoisted from the top to allow it to be adjusted
to any
height within the silo thereby altering reverb
lenght. Different suface textures on the 18 foot plate
will regulate damping. Also on the floor. It ought to
be interesting. Natural reverb from a LARGE
cylindrical acoustic chamber.
Also, we have a large long corn bunker that when I
was a kid, I noticed it provided slapback echos when
yelling from the front to the back. There again is a
natural acoustic chamber that will be interesting to
try. Move the mic/speaker setup distance to the back
wall for different echo time. Plus a bit of reverb
thrown in. I hated growing up on the farm. All work,
no play. But now that the farm buildings are unused
except for storage, there are all sorts of natural
acoustic treatments to be toyed with.
Rig
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bill bigrig wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Growing up on a dairy farm, we had 1, then 2 silos
> for storing cattle forage for winter. When they were
> empty, the reverb in them was TREMENDOUS. I never
> timed it but it is long. They are 18 feet in diameter
> and 50 feet high...
Can't find the link, but I saw a German studio or something having huge
tubular reverb chamber, like your mentioned silo, made in metal, looked
like polished cobber.
> ...I will build a round
> plate, hoisted from the top to allow it to be adjusted
> to any height within the silo thereby altering reverb
> lenght. Different suface textures on the 18 foot plate
> will regulate damping. Also on the floor. It ought to
> be interesting...
Some large studios have reverb rooms in weird shapes with motorized
panels to adjust reveb time/decay, different speakers and mics in
various placements..
You'll surely have a ball setting up the silos. I guess it can have it's
merits being a country boy ;)
--
rgds,
van Sinn
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beautiful...reminds me of Steve Reich´s music for 12
musicians,there is also a film i think it was Ferris
Bueller's Day Off where there is a making love scene
on a night train accompanied by such reminiscent
sound,i am not really sure who did the soundtrack for
that specific scene but it sounded very similar to
this...the film is qui´te funny and the music is
brilliant!
thanx
Luis
--- Micha³ Wiernowolski wrote:
> Norman Fairbanks released a new album "7 Days
> Microsleep",
> made with Yamaha's Tenori-on.
> The album can be downloaded from
> http://www.normanfairbanks.com/
> (cf.
>
http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_europe/uk/service/070_news_events/20071113_tenori_on_MusicLive/index.html)
>
> It seems Tenori-on is more than just a nice toy (my
> first impression).
>
> Michal
>
>
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
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Michael Peters schrieb:
> A long out of print double LP called "Vor der Flut" (Before the
> Flood) contained performances of C.Bauer, Butz Dähn, Heiner Goebbels,
> Michael Köhler, Joe Koinzer, Roberto Laneri, Pauline Oliveros,
> Saxophon Mafia, Helmut Scherner, Büdi Siebert, Trio Basso Köln.
I have an reissue of that record on CD, one of my favorites for a long
time. If you find it, just get it, recommended...
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> I love what all the hardcore loopers do here, but for the average
> audience member its unlistenable( Please, no offense meant).
The average audience member is highly underrated. Especially by
organisers. If the music is done well, you can reach any audience, no
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Exactly that is the artistic challenge!
> But why not take elements and techniques they developed and place
> them in more accessible music.
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own music. But don't get me wrong, you can make your own music more
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Just never sacrifice your music for being accepted (mainly) by
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(If you never take the risk, you'll never learn/practice it either...)
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An interesting view into perhaps an alternate universe, but I suspect
you're actually thinking of Reich's "Music For 18 Musicians" and
"Risky Business" using a Tangerine Dream track for the train sex
scene.
TH
On Dec 3, 2007 3:00 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote:
> beautiful...reminds me of Steve Reich=B4s music for 12
> musicians,there is also a film i think it was Ferris
> Bueller's Day Off where there is a making love scene
> on a night train accompanied by such reminiscent
> sound,i am not really sure who did the soundtrack for
> that specific scene but it sounded very similar to
> this...the film is qui=B4te funny and the music is
> brilliant!
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Yes travis!that must be it,its been a long time since
ive heard that CD or film thanx for the correction!
Luis
--- Travis Hartnett wrote:
> An interesting view into perhaps an alternate
> universe, but I suspect
> you're actually thinking of Reich's "Music For 18
> Musicians" and
> "Risky Business" using a Tangerine Dream track for
> the train sex
> scene.
>
> TH
>
> On Dec 3, 2007 3:00 AM, L.A. Angulo
> wrote:
> > beautiful...reminds me of Steve Reich´s music for
> 12
> > musicians,there is also a film i think it was
> Ferris
> > Bueller's Day Off where there is a making love
> scene
> > on a night train accompanied by such reminiscent
> > sound,i am not really sure who did the soundtrack
> for
> > that specific scene but it sounded very similar to
> > this...the film is qui´te funny and the music is
> > brilliant!
>
>
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> The average audience member is highly underrated. Especially by
> organisers. If the music is done well, you can reach any audience, no
> matter how far away you are from the mainstream or from what the
> audience usually expects.
> Exactly that is the artistic challenge!
Not around here. Americans are idiots. Remember, we elected George W
Bush. Enough said.
On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
> Chris Sewell schrieb:
>> I love what all the hardcore loopers do here, but for the average
>> audience member its unlistenable( Please, no offense meant).
>
> The average audience member is highly underrated. Especially by
> organisers. If the music is done well, you can reach any audience, no
> matter how far away you are from the mainstream or from what the
> audience usually expects.
> Exactly that is the artistic challenge!
>
>> But why not take elements and techniques they developed and place
>> them in more accessible music.
>
> If you place anything into "more accessible music" you stop doing
> your own music. But don't get me wrong, you can make your own music
> more accessible, that's high art and neither easy nor achieved often.
> Just never sacrifice your music for being accepted (mainly) by
> organisers, try to reach your audience with your own self...
> (If you never take the risk, you'll never learn/practice it either...)
>
> Stefan
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>> The average audience member is highly underrated. Especially by
>> organisers. If the music is done well, you can reach any audience, no
>> matter how far away you are from the mainstream or from what the
>> audience usually expects.
>> Exactly that is the artistic challenge!
>
> Not around here. Americans are idiots. Remember, we elected George W
> Bush. Enough said.
At least you're not whining about him "stealing the election" anymore. See,
there IS promise.
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But it's quite commonly known even outside USA that Bush stole
that chair ...
Long life anarchy of all kinds!!!!
(and now looping...)
Long life anarchy of all kinds!!!!
Long life anarchy of all kinds!!!!
...
Ra.
2007/12/3, Chris Sewell :
>
> > The average audience member is highly underrated. Especially by
> > organisers. If the music is done well, you can reach any audience, no
> > matter how far away you are from the mainstream or from what the
> > audience usually expects.
> > Exactly that is the artistic challenge!
>
> Not around here. Americans are idiots. Remember, we elected George W
> Bush. Enough said.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>
> > Chris Sewell schrieb:
> >> I love what all the hardcore loopers do here, but for the average
> >> audience member its unlistenable( Please, no offense meant).
> >
> > The average audience member is highly underrated. Especially by
> > organisers. If the music is done well, you can reach any audience, no
> > matter how far away you are from the mainstream or from what the
> > audience usually expects.
> > Exactly that is the artistic challenge!
> >
> >> But why not take elements and techniques they developed and place
> >> them in more accessible music.
> >
> > If you place anything into "more accessible music" you stop doing
> > your own music. But don't get me wrong, you can make your own music
> > more accessible, that's high art and neither easy nor achieved often.
> > Just never sacrifice your music for being accepted (mainly) by
> > organisers, try to reach your audience with your own self...
> > (If you never take the risk, you'll never learn/practice it either...)
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > --
> > Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> > --_____-----------|--------------
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> > -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
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But it's quite commonly known even outside USA that Bush stole
that chair ...
Long life anarchy of all kinds!!!!
(and now looping...)
Long life anarchy of all kinds!!!!
Long life anarchy of all kinds!!!!
...
Ra.
2007/12/3, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com>:
> The average audience member is highly underrated. Especially by
> organisers. If the music is done well, you can reach any audience, no
> matter how far away you are from the mainstream or from what the
> audience usually expects.
> Exactly that is the artistic challenge!
Not around here. Americans are idiots. Remember, we elected George W
Bush. Enough said.
On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
> Chris Sewell schrieb:
>> I love what all the hardcore loopers do here, but for the average
>> audience member its unlistenable( Please, no offense meant).
>
> The average audience member is highly underrated. Especially by
> organisers. If the music is done well, you can reach any audience, no
> matter how far away you are from the mainstream or from what the
> audience usually expects.
> Exactly that is the artistic challenge!
>
>> But why not take elements and techniques they developed and place
>> them in more accessible music.
>
> If you place anything into "more accessible music" you stop doing
> your own music. But don't get me wrong, you can make your own music
> more accessible, that's high art and neither easy nor achieved often.
> Just never sacrifice your music for being accepted (mainly) by
> organisers, try to reach your audience with your own self...
> (If you never take the risk, you'll never learn/practice it either...)
>
> Stefan
>
> --
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
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The most interesting is that Norman will have lasted just
an afternoon to make this wonderful music..
Nice,
R.
2007/12/3, L.A. Angulo :
>
> Yes travis!that must be it,its been a long time since
> ive heard that CD or film thanx for the correction!
> Luis
>
>
>
> --- Travis Hartnett wrote:
>
> > An interesting view into perhaps an alternate
> > universe, but I suspect
> > you're actually thinking of Reich's "Music For 18
> > Musicians" and
> > "Risky Business" using a Tangerine Dream track for
> > the train sex
> > scene.
> >
> > TH
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2007 3:00 AM, L.A. Angulo
> > wrote:
> > > beautiful...reminds me of Steve Reich=B4s music for
> > 12
> > > musicians,there is also a film i think it was
> > Ferris
> > > Bueller's Day Off where there is a making love
> > scene
> > > on a night train accompanied by such reminiscent
> > > sound,i am not really sure who did the soundtrack
> > for
> > > that specific scene but it sounded very similar to
> > > this...the film is qui=B4te funny and the music is
> > > brilliant!
> >
> >
>
>
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
>
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Nice,
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ps the shorter phrases such as drum beats , thenlonger verses andchoruses o=
n the second unit so i can then drop out the drums or change the patteren=
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ied.
I have two Gibson units... a black and a white face unit, that I have been =
controling from one FCB7 and a a-b switch.....
I have just added in an Obenheim EDP that will be getting the Loop4 treatme=
nt as soon as the chips are shipping again, I have just sat yesterday and p=
rogrammed three banks on my fcb to control one edp each using source#=
offsets, i am then going to connect the fcb1010 to edp1's in, have a line =
coming out of thru and into edp2's in then outof its thru and into edp3's i=
n.
from what has just been said on tis topic i can see two potential problems.=
1. the controller set up i am wanting to use might not work due to the time=
it takes to get the midi control info to the last unit in the chain
2. the Obi - edp might not sync to the other two due to crytal in=
compatability with the two newer units which seem to synch well to eac=
h other.
by the way i wont be controlling them as a stereo pair or anything, o=
ne will be for purly vocal loops with the other two being used to lay down&=
nbsp;any combination of handsonic, guitar, guitarsynth, my new kaossilator =
(grat tool crap name) or microkorg but always mono. i imagined using =
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s andchoruses on the second unit so i can then drop out the drums or =
change the patteren by only needing to record one bar ...or something=
like that.
If the old obi wont synch can anyone tell me where to get the crystals=
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ta all
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phillip wilson wrote:
> I have two Gibson units... a black and a white face unit, that I have
> been controling from one FCB7 and a a-b switch.....
>
> I have just added in an Obenheim EDP that will be getting the Loop4
> treatment as soon as the chips are shipping again, I have just sat
> yesterday and programmed three banks on my fcb to control one edp each
> using source# offsets, i am then going to connect the fcb1010 to edp1's
> in, have a line coming out of thru and into edp2's in then outof its
> thru and into edp3's in.
>
> from what has just been said on tis topic i can see two potential problems.
>
> 1. the controller set up i am wanting to use might not work due to the
> time it takes to get the midi control info to the last unit in the chain
Using a midi splitter is the standard way to solve midi chain delay.
The delay with just 2 edps is pretty small, just enough to give you
a Hass effect when you reverse a stereo pair.
You could maybe run edp2 from the Midi Out of EDP 1 to reduce chaining.
>
> 2. the Obi - edp might not sync to the other two due to crytal
> incompatability with the two newer units which seem to synch well
> to each other.
or consider using Midi Sync,
or the EDP Beat Sync.
>
> If the old obi wont synch can anyone tell me where to get the crystals
> from here in the uk?
Andy Ewen at Trace Elliot, but don't know if he still has them.
Matthias could give you the part number.
andybutler
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Man almighty do I know what you mean!!! I was reminded of a live video I did in the war memorial
here in Pittsburg Kansas. ( I plan on posting it as soon as I can figure out all the computer
issues to do it?) I played a spontaneous "test" inside a couple of huge walkthrough concrete
cylinders. This prompted me to get my photographer/videographer and capture a little more sonic
phenomena!!! The results were spectacular and I am planning on using this for more promotions and
advertising purposes. I have some raqs sharqi performances with Sahlah Suhaylah planned for the
near future as well and it would be amazing to have her dancing in one of these natural/unnatural
acoustic settings with me playing. We are also looking for ethnic percussionists and dancers that
can keep up with her intense style/workouts. She is in Oklahoma City/Tulsa areas and we will
probably be traveling quite a bit maybe into Texas and perhaps we can find some of my old friends
in Arizona as well? Where are you located may I ask?
Happy Christ mas and Merry New Year to all of you loopy people!!! :o)
Sincerely So Much Love, Daniel T. Albertini
--- van Sinn wrote:
> bill bigrig wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Growing up on a dairy farm, we had 1, then 2 silos
> > for storing cattle forage for winter. When they were
> > empty, the reverb in them was TREMENDOUS. I never
> > timed it but it is long. They are 18 feet in diameter
> > and 50 feet high...
>
> Can't find the link, but I saw a German studio or something having huge
> tubular reverb chamber, like your mentioned silo, made in metal, looked
> like polished cobber.
>
> > ...I will build a round
> > plate, hoisted from the top to allow it to be adjusted
> > to any height within the silo thereby altering reverb
> > lenght. Different suface textures on the 18 foot plate
> > will regulate damping. Also on the floor. It ought to
> > be interesting...
>
> Some large studios have reverb rooms in weird shapes with motorized
> panels to adjust reveb time/decay, different speakers and mics in
> various placements..
>
> You'll surely have a ball setting up the silos. I guess it can have it's
> merits being a country boy ;)
>
> --
> rgds,
> van Sinn
>
>
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Hello folks,
I had the great pleasure of attending an inspiring Terry Bozzio solo drumset
performance/clinic last night at CSU Sacramento as part of the schools
annual "day of percussion" event.
I assume most of you are aware who Terry is and some of the people he has
played with, including Zappa, Jeff Beck, etc.
I watched his crew setting up his kit (which took three hours!), and if you
haven't seen it, this thing is a monstrous mutant alien creation consisting
of chromatically and diatonically tuned toms, 8 diatonically tuned bass
drums (going down I believe to a low E three octaves below middle C), gongs,
various world percussion stuff, and tons of stacked cymbals, sorta pitched,
in layers from low in pitch to high in pitch. Oh, and a snare drum thrown in
for good measure.
He played pitched solo compositions (with perhaps a little improv) that were
virtuosic and orchestral in nature, with thought to form, harmony, melody,
texture, drama and dynamics. At first I looked at the kit and thought, "wow,
this is overkill", but by the end of his first orchestration, I changed that
view completely.
It was totally inspiring, and I got a lot of great ideas from both his
performance and his "chat" with the audience. Something he does is that when
he wants a sustained note, he rolls the tom very fast. That sounds like a
normal human thing to do, but in addition, he also performs sustained slurs
between specific notes in a melody by overlapping his rolls on two different
toms when transitioning between those specific notes. He also performs
harmony (four notes total, plus a hi-hat, as he has pedals set up which
simultaneously play a bass drum AND hi-hat). He does all kinds of
polyrhythmic stuff with ostinatos, and to boot he is a very dynamic,
enthralling performer. I caught a couple of Stravinsky and Zappa quotes, and
he played an excellent orchestration of Ravel's main "Bolero" theme - on a
freaking drum set!
The concert was totally packed and the buzz afterward was positive in the
extreme. Check his stuff out when you get a chance. Apparently, he has an
instructional DVD with the whole shebang included.
Oh, by the way, I am not a drummer.
~Greg
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Facebook privacy concerns:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140182-c,onlineprivacy/article.html
"A Computer Associates security researcher is sounding the alarm that
Facebook's controversial Beacon online ad system goes much further
than anyone has imagined in tracking people's Web activities outside
the popular social networking site.
Beacon will report back to Facebook on members' activities on
third-party sites that participate in Beacon even if the users are
logged off from Facebook and have declined having their activities
broadcast to their Facebook friends."
On Nov 28, 2007 10:56 AM, wrote:
> didn't provide my link as example.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=758002047
>
>
> --- mesquamacus@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I didn't upload music on the musicians page becuase
> > of
> > facebook wanting a photo ID...
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thanks greg!
"Don't loaf and invite inspiration. Light out after it with a club.".....JACK
LONDON
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Thanks for the in-depth review, Greg.
It's amusing looking through the comments on his Youtube videos...people
bring so many expectations to drumset playing that it seems the majority
simply can't accept what he's trying to do. There are so many "he sux
for having all those drums LOL!" and "peart is faster!" and "bonzo hits
harder!" statements, which just seem to completely miss the point. It
seems to me that he's created a unique solo instrument and is carving
out a repertoire for it. I think that's tremendous.
Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> I had the great pleasure of attending an inspiring Terry Bozzio solo drumset
> performance/clinic last night at CSU Sacramento as part of the schools
> annual "day of percussion" event.
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From: lochheed
Subject: Custom EDP ECHOPLEX Footswitches with Boss Pedals
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Hello -
I've converted 7 Boss foot switches to handle the various functions
on my two Echoplexes. The pedals were gutted and fitted with the
proper resistors and wired in series with standard patch cables The
setup works wonderfully! The feel of the Boss switching is more
familiar than the stock EFC-7 and the switches are certainly lasting
longer! In order to cut down the size of my board, I'm using a Boss
LS-2 Line selector as an A/B to switch the custom Boss pedals between
the two Echoplexes. This allows me to control either Echoplex with a
simple switch. Even though the Echoplexes aren't running in stereo,
they are being fed Midi Clock. Both EDPs go to separate amps and are
always looping something different.
Here's what's next for my setup....
I'd like to add a few more of these custom Boss pedals to control the
Record, Mute, Insert and Next Loop for BOTH Echoplexes at the SAME
TIME. Sort of a MASTER Record, Mute, Insert and Next Loop if you will.
Tell me if you think this scenario will fly...
After the 1/4" foot switch cable hits the A/B box, the signal splits
two 1/4" cables to the two EDPs. Can I patch in a "Master" Record,
Mute, Insert and Next Loop signal into both these cables? I'll
probably use a small Hammond enclosure as a "merge" box. I'd like to
have the option to not only control the EDPs independently but also
have the option to Record, Mute, Insert and Next Loop for both.
In theory, it sound like it should work.
Any thoughts?
Adam
http://www.myspace.com/lochheed
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Adam, maybe I've missed this, but do you have any photos of this foot
switch configuration? I don't remember anyone mentioning anything
like that before. That sounds pretty interesting,
John
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You may run into issues there. I remember that some of the EDP
functions could be controlled on two units with an EFC-7 type hookup
through an ABY box, but some wouldn't, and I gave up at that point. I
can't remember which right now. It may have to do with the resistance
value seen when you have two units on the circuit.
And yes, pictures please.
On Dec 3, 2007 10:59 AM, lochheed wrote:
> Tell me if you think this scenario will fly...
>
> After the 1/4" foot switch cable hits the A/B box, the signal splits
> two 1/4" cables to the two EDPs. Can I patch in a "Master" Record,
> Mute, Insert and Next Loop signal into both these cables? I'll
> probably use a small Hammond enclosure as a "merge" box. I'd like to
> have the option to not only control the EDPs independently but also
> have the option to Record, Mute, Insert and Next Loop for both.
>
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Per Boysen schrieb:
> The manual is here:
> http://www.americanmusical.com/manuals/digitech/dodcontrolx_manual.pdf
And it states in big letters on page 3:
NOTE:The Control X is NOT a MIDI device and is to be used only
with DigiTech GENETXTMprocessors.
Useless, what a waiste of buttons...
Sometimes I think (mass)manufacturers of gear sold their brains already.
I just implement a custom made looper for a cello in Max. The musician
wanted an organ pedal to control it. We found the Roland PK-5A which is
very solid, (and heavy) and feels just perfect. But what a waist of
possibilities (no problem though for this project...):
There is a row of 8 switches above the 13 pedals. These switches don't
send anything to midi out! ----- only the middle one but not if you hit
it again -----
No way, they just change an internal mode. So the only way to deal with
it is, to use it as well for just mode changes... -;)
Another foolish implementation, The photon controller from Alesis:
They have 10 endless wheels, wow --- BUT you can't set them to send
inc/dec Midi values, they act as pots, not as wheels... How stupid and
what a waist of possibilities...
These badly designed products are probably crippled by design to not
confuse anybody, but that's really confusing. Its so easy to have some
presets which work for the crippled musicians and still keep all
possibilities...
I need simple non intelligent controllers, they don't need to store
anything, don't need any mode, just send the same always... I'll do the
rest myself... That should be so much easier and cheaper, almost no
developement costs etc...
Stefan
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:59:17 -0800
From: "Matt Davignon"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: computers suck creative energy
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