I am enjoying stomp boxes in the real and virtual worlds these days. Before I answer and the question as intended, I'm digging the models in my Pod X3 Pro, Pod X3 via Pod Farm, the new plug-ins in PT LE 8, a stack of VSTs via FXpansion VST->RTAS converter, and the SoundToys Native effects bundle. The SoundToys effects are stunning. To the question proper. I mix and match a wide variety of stomp boxes as the spirit moves me. The complete list in on the gear page at http://www.lorenclaypool.com. Right now I'm jacked up with the Korg mini-KP Kaoss Pad, Boss SP-303, vintage MXR 45 Phase Shifter, Boss DD-5 (in Aarset mode), Boss TR-2 Tremolo with aNaLoG.MaN Super Mod, and Boss DS-1 with aNaLoG.MaN Pro Midrange Mod. But that will all change tomorrow. I'm a huge fan of what aNaLoG.MaN does with Boss pedal mods. I'm also in love all over again with vintage MXR pedals - warm and luscious analog goodness. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there

"... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists=2C... since Michael Hedges inve= nted it."
Heges was brilliant=2Cinspiring etc. But definately didn't i= nvent tapping. My friend
Paul Prince=2C(an excellent guitarist=2Cproll= y the first to apply tapping to African guitar styles)
told me about s= itting with Hedges at the old Varsity Theater=2C
in Palo Alto ( sort o= f the clubhouse for Windam Hill) listening to Tuck Andreas=2Cwho was tappin= g
and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the idea from Tuck.
But m= aybe you meat Hedges picku system=2Cwhich wa highly worked out=2Cesp fro hi= s modern harp guitar.

"... two hand tap acoustic = guitarrists,... since Michael Hedges invented it."
Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately didn't invent = tapping. My friend
Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to apply = tapping to African guitar styles)
told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity Theater,
in Palo = Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) = listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping
and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the idea from = Tuck.
But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly worked = out,esp fro his modern harp guitar.

If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness=2C then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.

Ludwig Wittgenstein

Ok we= ll=2C as far as I know Tal =3BFarlow beat everyone to it=2C =3Bat least to the finger tapping part.and that=92s = not talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell=2C who could mimic a sam= ba batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. This was happenin= g back in the 60=92s at least.

Bill.=

= =3B

From: samba - [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday=2C January = 02=2C 2009 9:05 AM
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT:feedback nyl= on tapping hedges

=3B

"... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists=2C... since Michael Hedges inve=
nted it."

 =3B Heges was brilliant=2Cinspiring etc. But definate=
ly didn't invent tapping. My friend 

 =3BPaul Prince=2C(an excel=
lent guitarist=2Cprolly the first to apply tapping to African guitar styles=
) 

 =3Btold me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity Thea=
ter=2C

 =3B in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill=
) listening to Tuck Andreas=2Cwho was tapping

 =3B and Hedges sa=
ying "that's it" He got the idea from Tuck. 

 =3B But maybe you =
meat Hedges picku system=2Cwhich wa highly worked out=2Cesp fro his modern =
harp guitar.

= --_3f090494-ad9b-45b5-9147-101cf8bfcaf6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 20:32:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A6493BE7E; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980856@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> References: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980856@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--781971830 Message-Id: <84238F9D-17EC-4B3F-BC2F-8A0E3333EDF7@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: OT: Re: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect /etc.... Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:31:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:32:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--781971830 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Dean, Hal wrote: > Lest someone leap immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about > to say is too simple, I'll preface it by saying that any holistic > analysis of the environmental effects of our choices is inevitably > very complex and ultimately requires multiple qualifications and > copious research. That out of the way... just about the entire > life cycle of polyvinyl chloride is really injurious to the planet > and its living creatures. > > If you don't know what I mean, see the film Blue Vinyl. > > I too love LPs as physical objects, but much of what we've been > doing needs to change.On balance, sans the copious research > admittedy, I have concluded that I cannot support the resurgence of > vinyl LPs. > > Hal Dean In all due respect, what about the computer used to transmit the above message? And, when the time comes that you feel that it is somehow necessary, will you purchase another, newer computer without these same concerns? What all goes into the R&D and the manufacture of a single average computer are directly, (along w/ indirectly) connected to so many different and various hideous chemicals, and / or chemical byproducts that, if you knew everything about it, it'd make your head spin. Rather than be against any kind of comeback with records, I would first advocate for elimination of the manufacturing of just about all of the mostly worthless crap plastic "products" that are found just about everywhere, especially in the more notorious big box stores like Wal-Mart, Target, etc, and which are the prime candidates that will eventually be dumped in a landfill somewhere in the future, and often much sooner, than much later. (And do not even think that once things end up in landfills, that that is the "end" of their "journey". Quite the contrary...) At least with records, particularly those that are being made today, many, or even most, will likely have a *far* longer "shelf life" (as on someone's shelves for records, etc) as opposed to a very large % of just about anything else that has been manufactured involving hideous things we'd rather not think about, but are still there nonetheless, and will remain so, and likely indefinitely. And yes, with the manufacture of records, there is still that support for polyvinyl chloride production. But, I guarantee ya that if records were outlawed tomorrow, there would *still* be a replacement market of some kind(s) found for the same amount of polyvinyl chloride production. This is how the big, major corps(es) operate and demand returns on their investments, and for their stockholders. My suggestion is for everyone individually to make their own personal decisions for how little (or sadly, how big) of a detrimental foot print they choose to make on Big Mama Earth. As for me, I will choose to still purchase records (and store them for decades at least), while at the same time, also choosing NOT to buy, and to support *as little* of any other crap that I reasonably can, which is how I have been living for most of my Life, anyway. It really is not that "hard" to do so. Ya just have to *really want to* and to be willing to make certain "sacrifices", etc. It gets easier and easier to do so, once put into regular practice... Also, at least with records, the polyvinyl chloride production that is there anyway is being used to store something of REAL and lasting VALUE, which is MUSIC, as opposed to the production of potentially countless billions of other items of ultimately worthless, and / or disposable crap. Give me records ANY time, over that other junk! And, what about many of the same scary things and byproducts that went into the R&D and manufacture of those beloved synthesizers that so many of us use and cherish (like myself) and also all of the wonderful looping devices, both past and present (and future...) ? Ooops...! :-) I suspect that possibly those same moral concerns will not be any kind of real issue when someone wants purchase a new and kool piece of gear, regardless of the vile chemical trails and foot prints that were left in the creation and manufacture of such things, and also cell phones, ipods, previously used CRT monitors and TVs, and a zillion other things heading to landfills eventually. Ooops, again...! We are ALL guilty of at least something! :-) Just try to minimize it as much as possible. PS- Also, thanx for the tip on the "Blue Vinyl" film, Hal. I had never heard of it and just put a reserve for the next available copy at my local library which has it in it's catalogue. Looks very intriguing. There is, and always should be, an endless number of things to know and to learn about... PPS- Great flash animation, Per! Hilarious! Thanx! I passed it onto other interested folks. Keep up the Great Work! All the best, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-1--781971830 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Dean, Hal = wrote:

Lest someone leap = immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about to say is too simple, = I'll preface it by saying that any holistic analysis of the = environmental effects of our choices is inevitably very complex and = ultimately requires multiple=A0qualifications and copious research.=A0 = That out of the way... just about = the entire life cycle of polyvinyl chloride is really injurious to the = planet=A0and its=A0living creatures.

=A0

If you don't=A0 know what I mean, see the film = Blue Vinyl.

=A0

I too love LPs as physical objects, but much of what we've = been doing needs to change.On balance, sans the copious research = admittedy, I have concluded that I cannot support the resurgence of = vinyl LPs.

=A0

Hal Dean

In all = due respect, what about the computer used to transmit the above message? = =A0And, when the time comes that you feel that it is somehow = necessary,=A0

will you purchase another, newer computer = without these same concerns?

What all goes = into the R&D and the manufacture of a single average computer are = directly, (along w/ indirectly) connected to so many different and = various hideous chemicals,=A0

and / or chemical byproducts = that, if you knew everything about it, it'd make your head spin. Rather = than be against any kind of comeback with records, I would first = advocate for elimination of the manufacturing of just about all of the = mostly worthless crap plastic "products" that are found just about = everywhere, especially in the more notorious big box

stores = like Wal-Mart, Target, etc, and which are the prime candidates that will = eventually be dumped in a landfill somewhere in the future, and often = much sooner, than much later.

(And do not even think = that once things end up in landfills, that that is the "end" of their = "journey". Quite the contrary...)

At least with = records, particularly those that are being made today, many, or even = most, will likely have a *far* longer "shelf life"=A0(as on someone's = shelves for records, etc)=A0

as opposed to a very large % of = just about anything else that has been manufactured involving hideous = things we'd rather not think about, but are still there nonetheless, and = will remain so, and likely indefinitely. =A0And yes, with the = manufacture of records, there is still that support for polyvinyl = chloride production. But, I guarantee ya that if records were outlawed = tomorrow, there would *still* be a replacement market of some kind(s) = found for the same amount of=A0polyvinyl chloride production. This is = how the big, major corps(es) operate and demand returns on their = investments, and for their stockholders. =A0My suggestion is for = everyone=A0individually=A0to make their own personal decisions for how = little=A0

(or sadly, how big) of a detrimental foot print they = choose to make on Big Mama Earth. As for me, I will choose to still = purchase records =A0(and store them for decades at = least),=A0

while at the same time, also choosing NOT to=A0buy, = and to support *as little* of any other crap that I reasonably can, = which is how I have been living for most of my Life, anyway. = =A0

It really is not that "hard" to do so. Ya just have to = *really want to* and to be willing to make certain "sacrifices", etc. It = gets easier and easier to do so, once put into regular = practice...

Also, at least with records, = the=A0polyvinyl chloride production that is there anyway is being used = to store something of REAL and lasting VALUE, which is MUSIC, as opposed = to the production of=A0potentially countless billions of other items of = ultimately worthless, and / or disposable =A0crap. Give me records ANY = time, over that other junk!=A0

And, what = about many of the same scary things and byproducts that went into the = R&D and manufacture of those beloved synthesizers that so many of us = use and cherish

(like myself)=A0and also all of the wonderful = looping devices, both past and present (and future...) ? =A0Ooops...! = =A0:-)=A0

I suspect =A0that possibly those same = moral concerns will not be any kind of real issue when someone wants = purchase=A0a new and kool piece of gear, regardless of the vile chemical = trails and foot prints that were left in the creation and manufacture of = such things,=A0and also cell phones, ipods, previously used CRT monitors = and TVs, and a zillion other things heading to landfills eventually. = =A0=A0Ooops, again...! =A0 We are ALL guilty of at least something! :-) = =A0 Just try to minimize it as much as = possible.=A0

PS- Also, thanx for the tip = on the "Blue Vinyl" film, Hal. I had never heard of it and just put a = reserve for the next available copy at my local library which has it in = it's catalogue.

Looks very intriguing. There is, and always = should be, an endless number of things to know and to learn = about...

PPS- Great flash animation, Per! = =A0Hilarious! =A0Thanx! =A0I passed it onto other interested folks. = =A0Keep up the Great Work!

All = the best,

Rev = Fever

http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfe= ver/

= --Apple-Mail-1--781971830-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 23:42:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC8EE3BE7F; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YwNCFg2zOYVzkopKuOeEJjEa3kXc97ZFLT539NYdDN7q8cVmdVpGAIJu8ly14sMMZxaN21GieDtxyYDf/kVVseSIbvO1KViplnoijF2r/WnzsBLoKzR3GlRKWsvfssrC7rNY7qpmiPMYBkBlWRW+DTULjzDrmGUYOaU0tXsw+UE=; X-YMail-OSG: XL87LF8VM1no_c6fyUPAkvr6C78cQ3ZnkM18TAXEeYMQeHEpmE30ggnpi97sLqDnDXJs9d94wHmFKM8MPcsZ__n.XxRJk0RMR5vLPDw.RuWMZq3HmTUi66o81dN86jI.2o_ZaQCtXGbZQjSAvyg5wSseOFdFOHZ1COpIHNBD35E1QZSZ6v6EIghr5Ttd1g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:42:13 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <675469.9390.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:42:14 +0000 (UTC) i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys know better than i d= o about the true inventor,off course we could even go back to the blues and= there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that slap harmonics over = a harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons with bass notes and th= e left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive slapping on the guitar= body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt invent that then it was P= reston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i guess he was given credit = for that.In any case because of that style i believe there were few pickup = systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance audio),but i see a lot of of = cats now that do that sort of style having to get special custom made syste= ms for them,so the market must still be too small... like looping was!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - wrote: > From: samba - > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > I don't think Tuck was the originator,didn't mean to > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was great > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very slightly > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning Farlow,but > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs so much > as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can tell.I > never heard him live.I know he had huge hands could reach > insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a chord > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low position bass note > with the right hand 1st finger while holding the chord. Or=20 > strum a chord with the little finger while holding a bass > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden Powell,and other > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of percussive > tapping. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > If > we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live > in the > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping part.and > that=E2=80=99s not > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who > could mimic a samba > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. > This was happening > back in the 60=E2=80=99s at least. >=20 > Bill. >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > From: samba - > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com]=20 >=20 > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > 9:05 AM >=20 > To: > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > hedges >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... since > Michael Hedges invented it." >=20 > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately > didn't invent tapping. My friend=20 >=20 > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to > apply tapping to African guitar styles)=20 >=20 > told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity > Theater, >=20 > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping >=20 > and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the > idea from Tuck.=20 >=20 > But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 00:12:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48CF43BE7E; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=CmOXpXoK/QlvLVvNcE1ddQwL/NKUYTPCuQq6sNrHhv0=; b=Q1hEf38i2wkb1KBDunXo+m71OOwygsjYraYl/H42s4iXH7Qw6CZHoM7wPa4EWUwj8J zU1/pCT2dSPJlqn3RC2NE2sj4Eu0+DJ/TsCdcRl9/pCx85Sj4SOIw8LUiumlIe4q9f9Z AdTqsZVs9RC5Ao9ZZcVjT040FRUxln2XELWrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WaLpLps3WOkjNZ+L2SSUIDg9lcIkvmgUHfmn9LaBrowqGRzZEtK5FeBFLa2AI5eCCa YrMNRv28aCnShixG+wEYpcCyXj/Yr3kNhl6DMWZdMLxYvso14/P6ecRD8mHKh6RMS5DC NGaSC/2sx+00ef7hHBB3tKpmOj0rAVgXsmKa4= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901021612k7bf55043wcbc1151639722388@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 01:12:50 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New site needs your help! :-) In-Reply-To: <654037.28675.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0901021139s1768e80cya2b636996931b6ce@mail.gmail.com> <654037.28675.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:12:52 +0000 (UTC) WordPress, Luis! It should meet all your mentioned requirements. Checi it out, free to download at http://wordpress.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:06 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > Per, > great site! > Just curious what program are u using to do the websites? i am looking for something practical that already contains blogs links,etc.templates sort of speak,aimed for artists or musicians,which can be updated from everywhere without having to install a program,i did my website with macromedia but i hate the program and havin gto install it just to update my web! > thanx for the info > cheers > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 03:10:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 089153BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:10:21 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <29dD5D.A.wdD.dctXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:10:21 +0000 (UTC) I can think of one very significant thing that the 90's and perhaps this decade has produced in world musical culture: The rise of the DJ as Rock Star or Cultural Icon. It used to be that someone would play music between DJs and nowadays I see more and more shows where you see bands opening for prominent DJs. In the Goth/Industrial Scene that I frequent , recreationally, the DJ has surplanted the live musician as the dominant force. Nowadays if you want to play live in these scenes you practically have to beg the DJs , who now completely control the scenes to let you play and feel grateful if they will let you play (and for now money). We don't need to go to the 'are DJs musicians' argument that we've had multiple times on this list' There are obviously DJs who are wonderful musicians and go on to careers as composers and producers. I just think that it's telling that the vast majority of DJs that I encounter are not being particularly creative (with the exception of choice of sound and beatmatching for regularities sake) and that this has completely dominated a lot of music on the planet. It's also kind of amazing to me that the birth of the world wide web/internet and the proliferation of inexpensive methods to produce high quality music and there existence for the last 13 years seems to have not produced very much notable or long lasting music. I know that wonderful music has been created (and I think of our community as being really stellar in the production of that music) but it's interesting that none of it seems to be having very much impact on the culture at large. Everywhere I go, I hear oldies music playing...............every single bar I frequent, every single restaurant. In my life, I"ve never heard so much 'nostalgia' dominating our culture. Of course the democratization of media means that the paradigms will shift...............think the entire recent thread on how to release a digital release in this day and age. Ironically, I feel connected to people all over the earth who are really creative and active in their own artistry and the communalism of our own scene but at the same time, I'm seeing less and less kids taking music lessons. All of this could be the rant of a bitter old professional musician who's lifestyle is ending after 30 years of hard work, but I don't feel bitter for some reason. It's the most exciting time to ever be a musician on some fronts............certainly in terms of the kind of information that we have................................look at this list...............I haven't had to go out and buy every distortion box on the planet: I"ve just had to ask questions and then benefit from the collective wisdom of this list to make my own choices with limited budget to spend. I'm just musing, 'tis all!!!!! Looking forward to this year, creatively. I think we are going to do amazing stuff.................who knows? Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. We certainly have all the tools we need to do so. Now we have to produce. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 10:13:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3209D3BE72; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=dudWr01OEljVkrx/9dU6E28qorrb2J3cOkzFGA4p6J8=; b=LSwjrES5JONQYylA+f/UTWQPazdxY/YSAY+qf99pseWlWlxKd62w4AIaOXSmUCn1qy xUA3Tya+ebW+msqnKa7tx5FDqohdnNBDSjIl/cgAvZbb5R99uM7FYHAk5h7CLMTTo/7Q x/zOf5XnUxnRcHIRxv0XGt357H2pglNMCSV6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=QnJUMB+FY0nq4KAyb2rJJCZHLgNdbCtPo6jgtTv+Kk1yx8OoCo7A703C2aH1SZbRVZ tVBnhfq0+147oQiS0YskNQgx31SjgZRf6+7bGviciiHr95SOeeF+69r3RVg9ug+lN02+ iEdSPXAZH/qTnvyuJ7jYsqKirSsvjoxYwb4e0= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:07:28 -0200 References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Great post. Thanks for your words Rick. El 03/01/2009, a las 01:10, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > I can think of one very significant thing that the 90's and perhaps =20= > this decade > has produced in world musical culture: > > The rise of the DJ as Rock Star or Cultural Icon. > > It used to be that someone would play music between DJs and nowadays =20= > I see more > and more shows where you see bands opening for prominent DJs. > > In the Goth/Industrial Scene that I frequent , recreationally, the =20= > DJ has surplanted the > live musician as the dominant force. Nowadays if you want to =20 > play live in these > scenes you practically have to beg the DJs , who now completely =20 > control the scenes > to let you play and feel grateful if they will let you play (and for =20= > now money). > > We don't need to go to the 'are DJs musicians' argument that we've =20 > had multiple times on this list' > There are obviously DJs who are wonderful musicians and go on to =20 > careers as composers and producers. > I just think that it's telling that the vast majority of DJs that I =20= > encounter are not being particularly creative > (with the exception of choice of sound and beatmatching for =20 > regularities sake) and that this > has completely dominated a lot of music on the planet. > > > > It's also kind of amazing to me that > the birth of the world wide web/internet and the proliferation of > inexpensive methods to produce high quality music and there existence > for the last 13 years seems to have not produced very much > notable or long lasting music. > > I know that wonderful music has been created (and I think of our =20 > community as being > really stellar in the production of that music) but it's =20 > interesting that none of it seems > to be having very much impact on the culture at large. > > Everywhere I go, I hear oldies music playing...............every =20 > single bar I frequent, every single > restaurant. > > In my life, I"ve never heard so much 'nostalgia' dominating our =20 > culture. > > Of course the democratization of media means that the paradigms will =20= > shift...............think the entire > recent thread on how to release a digital release in this day and age. > > Ironically, I feel connected to people all over the earth who are =20= > really creative and active in their own artistry > and the communalism of our own scene but at the same time, I'm =20 > seeing less and less kids taking music > lessons. > > All of this could be the rant of a bitter old professional musician =20= > who's lifestyle is ending after 30 years of hard work, > but I don't feel bitter for some reason. > It's the most exciting time to ever be a musician on some =20 > fronts............certainly in terms of the kind of information that =20= > we > have................................look at this =20 > list...............I haven't had to go out and buy every distortion =20= > box on the planet: > I"ve just had to ask questions and then benefit from the collective =20= > wisdom of this list to make my own choices > with limited budget to spend. > > I'm just musing, 'tis all!!!!! > > Looking forward to this year, creatively. I think we are going to =20 > do amazing stuff.................who knows? > Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. We =20= > certainly have all the tools we need to do so. > Now we have to produce. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 10:16:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9509B3BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2rcyEkrMxYLtBtDFpk3GFqM+4Hh6zcQX+xfvhcwUQJzeKm/Zx/zOivoSHndDGHgx8TkBTxRp/TBmoe1rIIMq0NgEcqSvGQNXlQf1Z2uaje2Jt2js+tgOgLIxWpdMN9nti47f89E4S+eFpVqHb2acsIcyoPlKsQ7HAw/wefuUS/k=; X-YMail-OSG: gPLIxOgVM1kuvdbubUyxMj6xdvdGmE5w5_oVWnTsHs6R2KtfJG..qHgakRO7n9WZ03fTbeST0v6Czc4phd.OtbkjZEl6CBSIWZILRjh2VGnikgN3bm4EdKSl8.TEiReVo.nG7_x3bsrBRj.cgcxuKOqWTNl.JNKqWqxkgLURDn7jPDyFvX6XnSTXFaqq3xeA2ubv3RN.SZLQAfeil0gnfqj4FuGn0Ds- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:16:08 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Reyn_vs=2E_Bj=F6rk?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <298845.39430.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:16:10 +0000 (UTC) what is that pedalboard with flashing lights? what id find difficult from t= his type of looping is the mic bleeding danger and setting up the footcontr= ollers to trigger the looper functions from all angles,is he daisy chaining= them? dont see a behringer FCB1010 unthinkable! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Nick wrote: > From: Nick > Subject: Re: Reyn vs. Bj=F6rk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:49 PM > amazing! >=20 > On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Michael Peters > wrote: > > check out Reyn Ouwehand's livelooping version of a > Bj=F6rk tune > > http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWKcw8XtYPK4&fmt=3D18 > > > > -m > > > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 10:46:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2100B3BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6co8WQyMcwP5qEXokQdtPGdakz3trzzWVo0yIDdrYvQ=; b=KyQZwiRMe8hvtPf9EsZipvAIIAh6iSQuKtbXQDVt3OgEClIOAddPRnHiDyG8Yrt3fx 5WvhoS19tyZTNPANLnuHe9eLH1AksYMiAui2p0OlqYgpYSt8ze5frQRATUVnXrrWaM8m 8jA9wxYIodN9x6HrbvMNjsKy8vxxXxdOiwwEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nWriTcMP2JNAVqXZC2dE7Ob+94v72e+vU+YdTSxCKk+FPsU+wKi5rhhOE6Pxrcl9S1 gV6TwEdrxl2D9XhC8RBw4urZMPiAFRvCHjOpDiF/PhzqXPj1Y5kq+qJzuaEQAyStpWdR QkBbZKVvtiLZK/UFGIt/Kc7gXyXNqRfkWzSVY= Message-ID: <9e0440a60901030241n44d25a98sa33b7306c872a4a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 05:41:21 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_92184_14273726.1230979281718" References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:46:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_92184_14273726.1230979281718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline good musing Rick, happy new year to you and Chris. I've thought many a tim= e re your latter point about how easily it is these days to create with the technology being so available. During the 80's when I was just out of school and was lucky enough to get a job at a television station, it was just about the only way to have involvement with 'quality' audio and video equipment yet things were dawning as we've now experienced. Just about everything I was involved in that period is now possible on the desktop and that continues to amaze me. In addition to that yes the connection of the Internet that has allowed me to know you, to collaborate with one musician living in Mexico and two others in Sweden and to have had interactions with othe musicians all around the globe through the CyberJams is continually inspiring and amazing to me. Re the content for the masses despite the creation of so much 'new' music I think that despite a rise in the masses appreciation and desire for 'quality' sound their patience to listen beyond 3 minutes or to take the time to 'listen' as opposed to be 'entertained' fo= r 3 minutes is why one hears the hits of the 70's in muzak than what we prefe= r to believe is more artfully challenging created material indicative of our interests. Good new year to all and may the creations of each of you 'ring the changes= ' about the globe... jim On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > Great post. > > Thanks for your words Rick. > > El 03/01/2009, a las 01:10, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > > > I can think of one very significant thing that the 90's and perhaps this >> decade >> has produced in world musical culture: >> >> The rise of the DJ as Rock Star or Cultural Icon. >> >> It used to be that someone would play music between DJs and nowadays I s= ee >> more >> and more shows where you see bands opening for prominent DJs. >> >> In the Goth/Industrial Scene that I frequent , recreationally, the DJ h= as >> surplanted the >> live musician as the dominant force. Nowadays if you want to play >> live in these >> scenes you practically have to beg the DJs , who now completely control >> the scenes >> to let you play and feel grateful if they will let you play (and for now >> money). >> >> We don't need to go to the 'are DJs musicians' argument that we've had >> multiple times on this list' >> There are obviously DJs who are wonderful musicians and go on to careers >> as composers and producers. >> I just think that it's telling that the vast majority of DJs that I >> encounter are not being particularly creative >> (with the exception of choice of sound and beatmatching for regularities >> sake) and that this >> has completely dominated a lot of music on the planet. >> >> >> >> It's also kind of amazing to me that >> the birth of the world wide web/internet and the proliferation of >> inexpensive methods to produce high quality music and there existence >> for the last 13 years seems to have not produced very much >> notable or long lasting music. >> >> I know that wonderful music has been created (and I think of our communi= ty >> as being >> really stellar in the production of that music) but it's interesting th= at >> none of it seems >> to be having very much impact on the culture at large. >> >> Everywhere I go, I hear oldies music playing...............every single >> bar I frequent, every single >> restaurant. >> >> In my life, I"ve never heard so much 'nostalgia' dominating our culture= . >> >> Of course the democratization of media means that the paradigms will >> shift...............think the entire >> recent thread on how to release a digital release in this day and age. >> >> Ironically, I feel connected to people all over the earth who are real= ly >> creative and active in their own artistry >> and the communalism of our own scene but at the same time, I'm seeing >> less and less kids taking music >> lessons. >> >> All of this could be the rant of a bitter old professional musician who'= s >> lifestyle is ending after 30 years of hard work, >> but I don't feel bitter for some reason. >> It's the most exciting time to ever be a musician on some >> fronts............certainly in terms of the kind of information that we >> have................................look at this list...............I >> haven't had to go out and buy every distortion box on the planet: >> I"ve just had to ask questions and then benefit from the collective wisd= om >> of this list to make my own choices >> with limited budget to spend. >> >> I'm just musing, 'tis all!!!!! >> >> Looking forward to this year, creatively. I think we are going to do >> amazing stuff.................who knows? >> Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. We >> certainly have all the tools we need to do so. >> Now we have to produce. >> >> >> > --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_92184_14273726.1230979281718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

good musing Rick, happy new year to you and Chris. I've thou= ght many a time re your latter point about how easily it is these days to c= reate with the technology being so available. During the 80's whe= n I was just out of school and was lucky enough to get a job at a televisio= n station, it was just about the only way to have involvement with 'qua= lity' audio and video equipment yet things were dawning as we've no= w experienced. Just about everything I was involved in that period is= now possible on the desktop and that continues to amaze me. In addit= ion to that yes the connection of the Internet that has allowed me to know = you, to collaborate with one musician living in Mexico and two others in Sw= eden and to have had interactions with othe musicians all around the globe = through the CyberJams is continually inspiring and amazing to me. Re = the content for the masses despite the creation of so much 'new' mu= sic I think that despite a rise in the masses appreciation and desire for &= #39;quality' sound their patience to listen beyond 3 minutes or to take= the time to 'listen' as opposed to be 'entertained' for 3 = minutes is why one hears the hits of the 70's in muzak than what we pre= fer to believe is more artfully challenging created material indicative of = our interests.

Good new year to all and may the creations of each of you 'ring th= e changes' about the globe...

jim

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com> wrote:

Great post.

Thanks for yo= ur words Rick.

El 03/01/2009, a las 01:10, Rick Walker escribi=F3:= =20

I can think of one very signific= ant thing that the 90's and perhaps this decade
has produced in worl= d musical culture:

The rise of the DJ as Rock Star or Cultural Icon.

It used to be = that someone would play music between DJs and nowadays I see more
and mo= re shows where you see bands opening for prominent DJs.

In the Goth/= Industrial Scene that I frequent , recreationally, the DJ has surplan= ted the
live musician as the dominant force. Nowadays if you w= ant to play live in these
scenes you practically have to beg the DJs , w= ho now completely control the scenes
to let you play and feel grateful i= f they will let you play (and for now money).

We don't need to go to the 'are DJs musicians' argument tha= t we've had multiple times on this list'
There are obviously DJs= who are wonderful musicians and go on to careers as composers and producer= s.
I just think that it's telling that the vast majority of DJs that I enc= ounter are not being particularly creative
(with the exception of choice= of sound and beatmatching for regularities sake) and that this
has comp= letely dominated a lot of music on the planet.

It's also kind of amazing to me that
the birth of the wo= rld wide web/internet and the proliferation of
inexpensive methods to pr= oduce high quality music and there existence
for the last 13 years = ;seems to have not produced very much
notable or long lasting music.

I know that wonderful music has been = created (and I think of our community as being
really stellar in the pro= duction of that music) but it's interesting that none of it seems=
to be having very much impact on the culture at large.

Everywhere I = go, I hear oldies music playing...............every single bar I freq= uent, every single
restaurant.

In my life, I"ve = never heard so much 'nostalgia' dominating our culture.

Of course the democratization of media means that the paradigms will sh= ift...............think the entire
recent thread on how to release a dig= ital release in this day and age.

Ironically, I feel connecte= d to people all over the earth who are really creative and active in their = own artistry
and the communalism of our own scene but at the same time, I'm s= eeing less and less kids taking music
lessons.

All of this could = be the rant of a bitter old professional musician who's lifestyle is en= ding after 30 years of hard work,
but I don't feel bitter for some reason.
It's the most exciting = time to ever be a musician on some fronts............certainly in terms of = the kind of information that we
have................................look= at this list...............I haven't had to go out and buy every disto= rtion box on the planet:
I"ve just had to ask questions and then benefit from the collective wi= sdom of this list to make my own choices
with limited budget to spend.
I'm just musing, 'tis all!!!!!

Looking forward t= o this year, creatively. I think we are going to do amazing stuff....= .............who knows?
Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. &nb= sp; We certainly have all the tools we need to do so.
Now we have to pro= duce.

--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (sol= o) - http://www.myspace.c= om/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www= .chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
------=_Part_92184_14273726.1230979281718-- From ww.samsung.org83@comcast.net Sat Jan 3 10:59:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:59:28 UTC Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F973BE72 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yytg1a0090vp7WLA1ytytV; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:53:58 +0000 Received: from smailcenter42.comcast.net ([204.127.205.142]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yytk1a00634roxo8Rytk3R; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:53:57 +0000 Received: from [41.220.75.3] by smailcenter42.comcast.net; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:53:42 +0000 From: WW.SAMSUNG.ORG83@comcast.net Subject: CONGRATULATIONS � YOU HAVE 710,000.00 BRITISH POUNDS STERLING FROM SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS PROMO 2008 CONTACT YOUR CLAIMS AGENT (SIR FLOYD JOHNSON) THROUGH THE EMAIL ADDRESS BELOW: samsung_floyd23@windowslive.com Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:53:42 +0000 Message-Id: <010320091053.1661.495F43B400000BD00000067D2200748184CCC8B9ADB1D2B9B2AAACB3BEACD2A9A9@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: V1cuU0FNU1VORy5PUkc4M0Bjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== To: undisclosed-recipients:; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 11:21:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 521B83BE75; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 122553665/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.207.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.207.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMBAHLYXklPTs8f/2dsb2JhbAAIyiKFcoRE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,322,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="122553665" Message-ID: <495F4B91.6000400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:27:13 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Live Looping Demographic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3WZeCD.A.oYC.Ip0XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Youtube has this interesting feature where you can check stats on the folks who watch your vids. The link is called "Insight", I suspect it only works for the person who uploads the videos. Anyway, demographic for the Norwich 2008 Live looping events is:- No-one under 35 ...and all men! andy butler http://uk.youtube.com/user/livelooper From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 12:45:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAF363BE7B; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9DF6aOeXfXwbmgLTmwWXkig9vylFWaJiigGzEV+xXEk=; b=dqx2pLRrga6xHujhlvMHwa0WJ7moMTjUiuy9SYZV5YBgwm6hY+z0b9eXVCsNnPCw8e SZYNaI7sh0FDjKGMuRbn7+1EU+MXcXlcsqkFJHXgokAmNyglh3/CeFsxnGaJEQy8iGRh RtfgW9rFg7xEkATE3CFpL2gbPZL/CGY3w5VG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wpEkm8VVxlnGn39bfJrLzTCEP+iAzWzhSKvC62aiDrwzwQD3HzYo3vF7/WrUK4C5TL Iqs58cJ+yyBHK/pO6eO+Lz/A3yoZHG+bYSYtuneCNGg+bcWZow0fD0dUpsQB6E4/AEtI my55b4N+jsHcISqEEXn+8OUj36wCCbAHxEWGI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901030445y781ff116jaf23172076cfbda2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:45:03 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Looping Demographic In-Reply-To: <495F4B91.6000400@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495F4B91.6000400@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Interesting! Does that mean that there are no women on the web? Or that they lurk as "men"? I totally missed out on the 35 year age restriction for Live Looping. Well, maybe it's best that way after all... Kids can get hurt. Loops are dangerous, you got to stay on top on some scary technology and slicing can indeed hurt if the cut goes wrong. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM, andy butler wrote: > Youtube has this interesting feature where you can check stats on the folks > who > watch your vids. > The link is called "Insight", I suspect it only works for the person who > uploads the videos. > > Anyway, demographic for the Norwich 2008 Live looping events is:- > > No-one under 35 > > ...and all men! > > > > andy butler > > http://uk.youtube.com/user/livelooper > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 13:09:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34E143BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=joNfwo6PuSyQq6m5fZfLEQy80zAuAZhqRxDcly0O2gU=; b=KX//Wi9vphaorhbmoTQWv1g7T4GiXxxT52m75BmwSLelm6QdpCxbg6RtA00RMHgaat jZcgc+60+UtxpkUXt41MdMc+uWc9dc2OQVWDOj78Mt70ePGSgwTVWpm944EGQjuPdDhN mPrzyhKTGcIl02qvj43xRSgr2jowDkcbI4QQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hVNClt/eve5TghAwtTKZoWKk21RNsmdhObXlxRHaoqUzJ/pjVFv5ev4XUXbu4CdnIg YyeRXn6VQJMrWfZ5r/Yx3WIimnm7j2VePfRPv2hqLXLjgPNCendtmsW1WbC+CahJmHJ0 p9Qu6NL6tHVX1TPPbPDZdM1MmCWNG3JmBPZ1A= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901030509g57914597w9f50c5c4e64c68b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:09:21 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:09:23 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Looking forward to this year, creatively. I think we are going to do > amazing stuff.................who knows? > Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. We > certainly have all the tools we need to do so. > Now we have to produce. Intersting post - as always from Rick. :-) I'd like to respond to the quoted part above that we also need THE MUSIC. That's so basic and simple for us age over 35 (referring to Andy's analysis of viewers on Vimeo) because we have had many years to learn music, but for younger peeps it may not be that obvious. In the old days you had to have the music first, only that would qualify you to get a chance to produce recordings of it. Today "producing recordings" can also be a method of "making music" and this opens up for the alternate, and dreadfully counter productive, scenario where one produces a recording without having the music in the first place. For a person that have not learned to *get* music this doesn't mean a problem because this person will get off just on the hi fi sound a punchy omphyness of the recording. But non recordist-tech-nerd people can not understand such a recording and this may lead into confusion where a lot of people have had "bad experiences with modern music". Oh crap, does this make sense? shall I post it? I write so much crap and only post a third here on the list, the rest I just delete instead of hitting the send button. But this time I will hit the send button... yeah - here - WE _GOOOooOOH! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 13:41:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B600B3BE77; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=dVVvRLekC9x0udXQgncYoQ001GFv1PZ4Kp1tj3Z1P7I=; b=AhoqHa8bReyjkj6CpFUyhmixSw2mqog/Ai7Y8ZuVoysHWyfsBukOlmLQTaGSxOab9y ixfyLpxssn3g9dCgR3s1VvVKek72/PbBRdGv72pl83Z9AFHdahvywgxM4k6dOcvumgTr EJeLCAt5xuciTkwvdA8/USqRr11h+wSJfQdFE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MuxuHBBf+ZBrILUEX+UET9kObZky3wzeH4QtvsBBmf680Z2deZQFM2+S7VDNnDKG1z y6NHb5snVOxqYSs82AIaKH3o5SNRgS9uYuhcEVYxtKG3xeem3+BiWZu6K4Vl5T3RDPRM yhc0YrSpKW0gCekFGud0yWT2xr3vWc2iWtPFQ= Message-ID: <7334ca1b0901030541h72fcb877r3ca8751687ac91d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:41:10 +0100 From: "Rainer Straschill" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live Looping Demographic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:41:11 +0000 (UTC) > Anyway, demographic for the Norwich 2008 Live looping events is:- > No-one under 35 > ...and all men! This statistic is either wrong because its wrong or wrong because its incomplete (i.e. only displays the last few 7 days or so) - and that apart from the fact that it most probably only will track those who are logged into their youtube account while watching the vid... ...anyway, I did watch the "Part I" video some time ago (I think just after it had been posted), and I'm not female, but under 35. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 13:42:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4700D3BE7B; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:42:00 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC) From: "andy butler" > > Rick Walker wrote: > >> We haven't had a defining cultural year in this past decade yet ( like >> '68 in the sixties, '75 in the 70's , '82 in the 80's, etc.) > > was there anything in the 90's? The rise of the multimedia computer that ACTUALLY PLAYED YOUR CDS!, which became the computer you could make your own studio-quality recordings. No longer did you didn't have to scrimp, save, tour, beg, borrow, steal, and crawl across the carpet of some dinosaur with a cigar who had no idea how to treat music as anything but Intellectual Property, just to get a recording done. No guarantee on that recording either, as if it was better than their current cash cow band-sound, they'd give you an advance then shelve the work forever, or until their current cash cow goes to the abbatoir. The CD Single became a victim of the RIAA's "anti-piracy" efforts, which became more shrill as people began to tell them to bug off, and make their own recordings - and copy those of others. The RIAA and its members never saw it coming, and they're still quite clueless. When the Internet came along, it was inevitable that someone would create a streaming audio method, in this case RealAudio. Never mind that they ultimately pimped the very independents that helped make it a standard, and sold out to the behemoth AOL; it was nevertheless the first gateway for us to publish our work for mass consumption. Again, without any interference (let alone awareness!) from the music industry's dark forces. To meet consumer demand, more sophisticated sound modules-cards became less expensive, making it even easier and more possible to make your own studio-quality recordings, and lessening the need to spend mega-bucks in order to adhere to The Old Structure. We saw video cards getting better and better, and could easily anticipate the access to produce our own videos as well. On the heels of the attempted destruction of the DAT, this was no less the beginning of the end of RIAA/MPAA tyranny and incompetence. Their only responses have been either blustering lawsuits and proclamations, or outright purchase of their competition (for example Napster, despite their ignorance as to what it actually WAS). Viva this particular Revolution, which continues despite the dinosaurs that wish they could oppose it. SP Goodman * http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 14:02:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E8223BE7B; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:02:05 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Hx+yOKgXb3FmabJMkFOcLIuJb9pjye2RuTG3gb43MRBQ98+lmATuYyBaCbfTrPDsWZ+Ajuuco7z02XzubTgama8/8CnQAqjsxkqXqE2o9SkK+LrG13rp3Tv+WZ2jXla5WEs0f1xpzM5K3Nw+2Cz1QJCIGtTK1kcR/DyTYEVn9XI=; X-YMail-OSG: oCcYGlkVM1mBrjb6PgKwPCiqupJHWQtgoYiqA7ygJhTq9_S3lBotLXvRidTqKS2OOXbZ8vBPq4yAX4pZrM6IFrWfxvuMXSSFOGhxFBdm1bHGuAdWoLUlLWeSg0I6AXCbsLkbys6lPEt5VhiDkdknofbFGpyV3CjfSDzll6O9RReik8qIUmnCX5JDh8nZVcKzjF6iz7f2IQ8WKHEcPTYpK3oZ.B3siXZB X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 05:55:21 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live Looping Demographic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0901030541h72fcb877r3ca8751687ac91d1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <253666.84080.qm@web45316.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:02:06 +0000 (UTC) This thread's reminding me of that scene in 'Spinal Tap' where Rob Reiner points out to the band that their audience is predominantly comprised of adolescent males... -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 14:17:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DFF13BE79; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 126028791/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.207.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.207.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMBAKMCX0lPTs8f/2dsb2JhbAAIwB0IiXuEOAiBMoRE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,322,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="126028791" Message-ID: <495F74C0.80406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:22:56 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Looping Demographic References: <7334ca1b0901030541h72fcb877r3ca8751687ac91d1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0901030541h72fcb877r3ca8751687ac91d1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: >> Anyway, demographic for the Norwich 2008 Live looping events is:- >> No-one under 35 >> ...and all men! > > This statistic is either wrong because its wrong or wrong because its > incomplete (i.e. only displays the last few 7 days or so) - and that > apart from the fact that it most probably only will track those who > are logged into their youtube account while watching the vid... > ...anyway, I did watch the "Part I" video some time ago (I think just > after it had been posted), and I'm not female, but under 35. > > Rainer > > some hope then :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 15:08:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21E0E3BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=2AO4PuCR2V9ABHNR/RBx7+nxwFXSEF+hcS2XghRlTZE=; b=nmEbJOyqj4X8OTw4Es4l1nu2z3sZ/LwMMDcGfrH4XbWGhUfj384T+AqXxff58LI+sv DTiBVOCdG30Y2c221gPUCJMAZyqMkLaKnfx0WkMn2T8vYi/yd2LaVTsp+nzC0zUVDhON kSyOJ5EE6f+Qml8DQ+d+uW2hBY5gMFbN5xGPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=qosF9gw0ITFp+mp6CGj/PIw+mAXYda1f0qTRqqO/hqW6H5DZXrtiVFwz3dJts3p10w QPr44n3H5G8w41VG5aQqhOyqgzelu95e4NvXX5oZYPv/nyEfC4VjpYmG3CPq3uTY+cqF sn4IN8PHkSAYcDxk6mWGgbvWyha3+o8N7KPIs= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:08:38 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5ad460e1ca5f34f7 Resent-Message-ID: <2NUS_B.A.-BC.593XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I just finished a new and VERY noisy track last night, using my new (old) Roland EF303 effects box. It seemed like it was completely wrong music to accompany a couple of infrared video experiments I did a few weeks ago, so I slapped it on as a soundtrack: Its called Making People http://vimeo.com/2702907 The vid was shot in complete darkness, using a prettyy low quality panasonic camera, I love the look of infrared, it seems so.. er.. waxy?? The music was inspired partly by the recent DISTORTION thread, and sound source being baritone guitar thru Bitrman (all knobs on MAX - Bit reducer setting) and a voicey kind of patch I created on my Roland GR30, inspired by Simeons cool voicey sounds on his recent Vimeo post. The looper is obviously edp, and half way thru it is pitch shifted by the EF303, as I also record to the repeater, which is getting CC=B4s also from the EF303, to kinda randomly mute and unmute the Repeaters tracks. As the pitch processing and the muting are coming from the same controler (the analog sequencer on th EF303) the 2 loopers blend very well, and you cant really tell the difference. Be warned.. its hardly pretty, and somewhat harsh, as I alos chose a very short metallic reverb for the overall mix, where I usually like a soft and long verb... enjoy... a bit!!! Mark --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 15:37:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7B433BE7E; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FcIiA5X1qoLm9kOhNBWycUYooxia6VadSbK4TUtFXMY=; b=XM9WjdYEKipktcBiM/Clhm1WPJ9a/utRxe4qQ/K2ut5G0vrDaLcGvXzM/nZvg/bB8q WABmLNFR3LVeRz5Afk6TpDW4paKl289IBx8iV9a+6dfQ71DYGpcBO0ohUs0NpHAYpoXd Pv36aWrwZWDLnOJZKkJWKmkUjxlmeW/KKHjxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=netgIHRJrYvkFxh0uOmZxHM/PAy5gqgyGi9pwWokJBDN7HxZcTynB41TuuOrpLrRXw TszcgZgOzt4yuHMmXYWpqIYN3Vgz4QRc4GO98Hplvb4apXgudi98dGUeDksgmc1c5jlc ksQWL08H9BYbDpuaQOGZRc2dLWaO+JdVN+O38= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901030737i26c53683q933dab426a8954d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:37:20 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:37:21 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Its called Making People "Making Peple" - cool title. I've made two so far. They're here now, busy hacking in on C&C3 and WoW. > http://vimeo.com/2702907 > > The vid was shot in complete darkness, Cool! But there's more to your concept: you have uploaded it as "Private Video" so we can't watch what you did there in the darkness.... "VERY noisy track" sounds like the trick, so may ask for permission to log in for it? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 16:48:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE1EB3BE7C; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=a4BEWpNTxjdZtpQTAF4qtbkuMryZQn2yEiuQy7sPzZk=; b=J9AwjSXml9d7xJVdc2AIJCP4nmh1xVkBeGdbR1R65boWcdfgM07RsXMpHJa1fdJvwn q4ef8j2Xk22PwoeSy/dC2fbalcvy9XsRtdgumZ8Fl1UAmSqMmgMOQv+/11BMO3W8i41+ iC+FIcPEhFupi0hCfhO4tmIxD0Td9OOgrZ4f4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=F63f7o/Kz9M9HzUfZSvmTCdWaGD0XwzZN8u6Lg0p8FOu2kTh3qbWQWD/pjfCswySFQ N3DMyvEEMyZDjilJPQgDhwqpDzNYMHu3I/rh+E0hRYuRkT7QXE1msKZhuOc9uIp7OP6n WmSnywMeYTftQeJ/FeKSX9IiWqKZZNqewNMT4= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901030848p77c64786sd5cf4c4a78051b33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:48:10 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901030737i26c53683q933dab426a8954d6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0901030737i26c53683q933dab426a8954d6@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: eef74e67494333f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:48:12 +0000 (UTC) oops.. ill fix... i normally set them like that before i have checked on the page... try again http://vimeo.com/2702907 On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Its called Making People > > "Making Peple" - cool title. I've made two so far. They're here now, > busy hacking in on C&C3 and WoW. > >> http://vimeo.com/2702907 >> >> The vid was shot in complete darkness, > > Cool! But there's more to your concept: you have uploaded it as > "Private Video" so we can't watch what you did there in the > darkness.... "VERY noisy track" sounds like the trick, so may ask for > permission to log in for it? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:13:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 776AF3BE7C; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=zujlbpRMt0oP/Sw66UlEqH1JBfZK+QLQMjZ687kPjcQ=; b=xopNDxD4X63hPtRWDdnP+VS6M12i7y/OzOaFTwqFr+EagFTwdBaIPFRtSHQsNryd4W ovGr2V//zIHyKcuIiSqSLulE+X4JZEXb3lJBa+7oUicUgfI4Fb/oiIl0vmgS4S0UD+mv owNpf8KT3bqMiWsUlOPRgsW/GA2/2doSUfUtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Whf5FV2gln+ytlRWZdxpwOLbUbwSz+vAGt3kWXUjsI/SXybhSr50/oB3bxGYrUGY84 F40+M3E4dID0/tbhzXM7uUAcOeLWZSdMOMnlAT7H7sIyeTUOG0g8MSFKM3wlLtHLjqJo TImFksK2VeOp9mnfx2PgWW9y/bhXT6h2h0/OE= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:13:54 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: LD Subject: OT: Vinyl sales double in last year !ZOMG! 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------=_Part_195774_15292301.1231002834905-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:18:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB0553BE72; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=bjPPZPHfjKVP9EGDGDqzse9nh5O7MNm9nkxbM41HOvA=; b=u6wjfITQWSaZLQfcjgagcHNNbxbfUVq4HqU4K2ZDqJr/gJRNyxO6Wjvw0agOte4/1q H8ctV4vDkBWeUgBHDxrhJyIVNTgUcOoq2ggJXUXmfhHTmal3NYHaA04WD+DUvv173m9Z y4ZofyNv8IxUQN0Ehu3NzhuPGZ1/paczfZzQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=f+XdAa0i7o/UTBeVSY2Xo3UnOO7JAkst4+Ir7pA5NquKAO+9C+eSnRn5zplv8/iBZ2 0JWady9IqmTwsHWskcRMlAiL1pZPzLbTLZyr0Tn27Jwm8o+SJ0z34tvjVYfOQd2atJbD lI5rqXAXlrvZU48avD59CcgvDegdWDY8T3rQM= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901030911jefaca13q918762961068dd8b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:11:25 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? In-Reply-To: <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ea0da402c0b27485 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:18:17 +0000 (UTC) '82 in the 80's,?? What happened in 82? For me 86 was the year in the eighties.. the second summer of love, new improved... now with added RAVE.. and the 90=B4s? maybe not one particular year.. but WOW what music!!!! Drum and Bass and Jungle, Techno (as opposed to US house) Incredibe computer recording... Moby, Aphex Twin.. and the MASSIVE emergence of Free Improv (and its vicarious offshoots, noise, jazz, the new silence, and the folketronica) into the live scene, and the blurring of the edges of lost genres... although that more this millenia stuff I guess... As a bit of a response to Pers post, not dissagreeing, just posting somthing I just read... Im reading the Book "The Peel sessions" FAcinating, if anal book that outlines the history of the commissioned recordings that the sadly missed John Peel would play twice a week on Radio 1 in the UK. There is a quote from John Walters (Peels producer) that during the Punk period he was booking new bands EVERY week for a recording session.. He once wrote a note and handed it to a band that was playing... it read. "Hi, great gig, you possess the kind of unmusical qualities that we should applaud, please call x x x x x to arrange coming in for a session for the John Peel show. .. The band was The Fall. who went on to have more radio session than any other band in Peels history. I think that if a band or musician is encouraged, and is able to make and record music, then they WILL progress, both skill-wise and musically. The NEW AGE of computers allows kids to do this.. whereas before, poor, working class kids could NO WAY hope to afford even a few hours in a studio. Except for the lucky few (including myself) who were taken under Peels wing and given a chance. I dont know if there is an equivalent DJ in the US, but in the UK it is hard to underestimate the mans influence and the love that my generation, the generation before and the current generation have for the man. I cried like a baby when I heard of his passing. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:31:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 578953BE79; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6rIsB2wY/uKOg5VOXpQ5q7RFykcq/YY+A5dz0Jbwpy0=; b=NLejPQ/gvREIUZSceI4ITiJhPoUhM3uI2iiM2Aqx737q1Fd3zvOySz+gPq845D+ahD 3A4I9nM9SnFINQH+GBB8TfGl6uxV8iWeqM/WwoqVhlHONwnRC03YeF5RgLR8JtfYN9OH Q9mCJ5KuZEVjq5UeiCNzjjytbpWKIaompm8ww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=pDlaMEROUmk/157OsvY2Y9PSYD/EJ97i8AijSm0li4ASJidDrtEz745aIPtuko8h8F vSzU+7LJe/QHvnVVaMgKc+pwfxkN9o+d49aMp58l4fmCHRlxfxEBMYwc/CH2YKJ7lrNO PBbjdk8PySz3BQ1zC1ugAL51cnolS0SwfXpiA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901030931m469ff426jbb4c52d5b32ccfe9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:31:28 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl sales double in last year !ZOMG! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Interesting! Good thing I never threw away those stacks of LPs. Now I just need to afford a turntable. That might happen in 2009! :-) Oh... and then I need to secure an area here in the apartment for the thing to live. No free space available but I guess that can be fixed in 2009... Oh... then I need to phase out vibrations from us all walking on the floor. Old house here. Or maybe I could hang the grammo from the ceiling! Oh no, the neighbor above us also walks on the wiggly floor. Ok, may have to think about something else then. Maybe I should rip them to mp3's.... ooops! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com (starting to remember why I gave up in finding a good diamond and bought a CD player) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > More news on retail music trends: > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Storage&articleId=9124699&taxonomyId=19&pageNumber=1 > > > TH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:40:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 711D23BE72; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231004421; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=1ujBgIYdMgfaKVvnjCGdS6v256A=; b=XSPW9E6bFNwOUhLlvZZGMS06olwdoVOhkP+OOvinnQQkTO2Hi0GrryvvzD+hZa2A GrEo1AEOu1GIX/WEVeWaQMKWmwBACq/VV7ZTDgbMwwaBMSxQQ4bNybdjyeomF4tQ; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=YJ1anN4jkzIA:10 a=WqSPny7czR8A:10 a=7GUP8flqAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=TCI8UqU29i-g9nizr30A:9 a=ip98uZbawMrfOE2mPOkA:7 a=9e6H0nkkraJ8sZiDcFvaFanDM3EA:4 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=oLyKKK6XQo0A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002001c96dca$59d6cac0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> <9ab0c76f0901030911jefaca13q918762961068dd8b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:40:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Actually '81 but King Crimson reformed with "Discipline". I took up guitar that year at 27. I played Beatles covers and originals in my first band as a guitarist. IMO commercial radio was a wasteland. I had wrek in atlanta, http://www.wrek.org/ for my listening education and pleasure, thank God. I got married for the second time in '84. And I was discovering looping with the EH 16 sec delay and other long delays. So the '80s were good at second glance. Very diversified for me. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" To: Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? '82 in the 80's,?? What happened in 82? For me 86 was the year in the eighties.. the second summer of love, new improved... now with added RAVE.. and the 90�s? maybe not one particular year.. but WOW what music!!!! Drum and Bass and Jungle, Techno (as opposed to US house) Incredibe computer recording... Moby, Aphex Twin.. and the MASSIVE emergence of Free Improv (and its vicarious offshoots, noise, jazz, the new silence, and the folketronica) into the live scene, and the blurring of the edges of lost genres... although that more this millenia stuff I guess... As a bit of a response to Pers post, not dissagreeing, just posting somthing I just read... Im reading the Book "The Peel sessions" FAcinating, if anal book that outlines the history of the commissioned recordings that the sadly missed John Peel would play twice a week on Radio 1 in the UK. There is a quote from John Walters (Peels producer) that during the Punk period he was booking new bands EVERY week for a recording session.. He once wrote a note and handed it to a band that was playing... it read. "Hi, great gig, you possess the kind of unmusical qualities that we should applaud, please call x x x x x to arrange coming in for a session for the John Peel show. .. The band was The Fall. who went on to have more radio session than any other band in Peels history. I think that if a band or musician is encouraged, and is able to make and record music, then they WILL progress, both skill-wise and musically. The NEW AGE of computers allows kids to do this.. whereas before, poor, working class kids could NO WAY hope to afford even a few hours in a studio. Except for the lucky few (including myself) who were taken under Peels wing and given a chance. I dont know if there is an equivalent DJ in the US, but in the UK it is hard to underestimate the mans influence and the love that my generation, the generation before and the current generation have for the man. I cried like a baby when I heard of his passing. Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009 1:10 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:42:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 214D63BE7E; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231004569; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=aY2ZthM8Bg/f2hXPs3Q67Q9b1T8=; b=bytnHaGn0v62PcucylsygEhAPXIgs5W3DEp0m9uBJlulmpRBR95MYScKC1TGM4IN 6+9tiQQjHjR93ZOboYScBXR+snOXzYMwr7ZBp34jeeKN8DLA8KeSK6HQ+qtD03F6; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TR5fbJirm1MA:10 a=WmvBpigeB4kA:10 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=aYZ54NaZk-TCSqbyPgQA:9 a=qavrhk0HIX7NuQvdPdQA:7 a=G8It6sMf6_kDw6N2UmPF0rDYgvEA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=aFdSZ05Rf_QA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002f01c96dca$b1cd6860$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0901030737i26c53683q933dab426a8954d6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:42:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:42:49 +0000 (UTC) "Making People" is really cool, both music and video. I was kinda expecting them to get up and walk away though, heh. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, mark francombe > wrote: >> Its called Making People > > "Making Peple" - cool title. I've made two so far. They're here now, > busy hacking in on C&C3 and WoW. > >> http://vimeo.com/2702907 >> >> The vid was shot in complete darkness, > > Cool! But there's more to your concept: you have uploaded it as > "Private Video" so we can't watch what you did there in the > darkness.... "VERY noisy track" sounds like the trick, so may ask for > permission to log in for it? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009 1:10 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 18:00:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A5783BE7C; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0rixbWUtZX/b3CVtSFvAPtOv4bWmYX//OqC3g3YfssU=; b=tjpnckO1KO8EIsNbADGBV6khBPcAGnqDHgCVqNhBvp3sdEX6vO5nFpvsx2P7yguC8D cGbjfQjQaMpQcYFG9F39AjcI59kG+w0XDJuxi/41tUhQ/tg22cWT7uNhKqezF7RTXBLp oHTKsu9XfgFBYT4ldQW1P5yBREfWjrrp8mBdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=FD86+4L3dy2xwCYlQznOnl63r+KcLbvuctssisAmKKnBRG8+yoNUNRVdGuGwd/Y8b4 DClAcZH84A3wxrBmn6Cstn2Tzw0XzOUGEKDMkfOC4MWc4HmlcGGUnhds4QUqdZd34uEN 3+TI85oDOu2ut6bXNRhfPWDoShZA2GSwtgdko= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901031000s2b34478wa37c2eef6ca47668@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:00:46 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0901030911jefaca13q918762961068dd8b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> <9ab0c76f0901030911jefaca13q918762961068dd8b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4qrFZ.A.nrH.Pf6XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:00:48 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:11 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > and the 90=B4s? maybe not one particular year.. but WOW what music!!!! Yes, it all opened up in the very beginning of the nineties. Crossover music, mixing genres, were heard in main media for the first time (leaving out those legendary US radio station of the sixties since they were closed down anyway and wasn't heard here in Sweden). A big experience for me was when the guys of :Zoviet*France: called me on the phone one afternoon in -91 to ask me over to play at a festival in Edinborough. They had money for the flight ticket already covered. This was really an out-of-this-world experience for me. That someone that far away can connect on basis of mutual musical taste that was normally regarded as "crazy ideas". A couple of days later they called me up again and told me the police had "closed the venue and forbidden the festival". What a bummer! But the experience was tremendously uplifting anyway. I had already worked on a gold selling album (60.000 copies) and toured fulltime, but this phone call meant even more, since it was the first time someone that I admired artistically had contacted me for the sake of my music. It left a strong impression and a feeling that the world may not be such a lonely place after all. This was before the internet explosion and guys like them, hafler trio etc, had to build their own snail mail distro channels. A noise jazz industrial live looping duo cassette I had recorded in the late eighties had been floating around obscure fanzines and landed by someone who cared. > recording session.. He once wrote a note and handed it to a band that > was playing... it read. "Hi, great gig, you possess the kind of > unmusical qualities that we should applaud, please call x x x x x to > arrange coming in for a session for the John Peel show. .. The band > was The Fall. Wow - I loved discovering The Fall in the eighties. What album covers! I glued one on my toilet wall as decoration to be looked at through the mirror and kept the record in the inner sleave. Yes. Peel rocked! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 19:10:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D3843BE79; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:10:51 -0800 Message-ID: <917E7B6320F440D7AEF39B9A81170392@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aclt1QKt5dd6PX8eSW28Wf/3DuwqDQAAdN5A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <675469.9390.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, Murcia, etc.) which contains specific symbols for 'golpe', making a percussive sound on the face or bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is there, mid/late 1700s. ~Greg www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams -----Original Message----- From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys know better than i do about the true inventor,off course we could even go back to the blues and there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that slap harmonics over a harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons with bass notes and the left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive slapping on the guitar body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt invent that then it was Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i guess he was given credit for that.In any case because of that style i believe there were few pickup systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance audio),but i see a lot of of cats now that do that sort of style having to get special custom made systems for them,so the market must still be too small... like looping was!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - wrote: > From: samba - > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > I don't think Tuck was the originator,didn't mean to > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was great > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very slightly > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning Farlow,but > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs so much > as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can tell.I > never heard him live.I know he had huge hands could reach > insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a chord > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low position bass note > with the right hand 1st finger while holding the chord. Or > strum a chord with the little finger while holding a bass > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden Powell,and other > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of percussive > tapping. > > > > > > > > If > we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live > in the > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping part.and > that's not > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who > could mimic a samba > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. > This was happening > back in the 60's at least. > > Bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: samba - > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > 9:05 AM > > To: > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > hedges > > > > > > "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... since > Michael Hedges invented it." > > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately > didn't invent tapping. My friend > > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to > apply tapping to African guitar styles) > > told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity > Theater, > > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping > > and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the > idea from Tuck. > > But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 19:50:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CFFA3BE7C; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JJcnm+bLF8Cg0j1pOEafFBg+q7Edlf0wwxMOxgnTnRw=; b=UVUNexoRoKRqMfvlB7J3i5ZAIQ8zNkHiZZCjPKIR1pDnJx3cvIoUplZg+zTnXYi7Cp YxXLhk8hv7dE9eqBRMY1caWczprPfAbdW3DIEC1O3hoZBQw310a2nLFn7O+wX/X4LkWT 7lpKx58YOIt+SsXTvVHvxYeKmgN+XcXJvTsnk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gOa4OBf3ciNO49opifTa+XhgOo8JbFuRUcgNZrG6BfIQuGTc75vtuBJ9bwNsnFOIQf vG6Cpbj4+RVcg3JZb2qAUlhau1+aMcpFS5OCWVgYzXeWqXn2p/t1LPgDak98IoVFy43U n0gFG7ifvyoVDIW1YL7o/lREuTgTOMT2VgEcQ= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:50:33 -0500 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges In-Reply-To: <917E7B6320F440D7AEF39B9A81170392@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_244735_1416689.1231012233635" References: <675469.9390.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <917E7B6320F440D7AEF39B9A81170392@gwdesk> Resent-Message-ID: <9zrWbC.A.FwD.MG8XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:50:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_244735_1416689.1231012233635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Classical guitar has a long tradition of using the "golpe" technique that Greg describes ... it really isn't a 20th century invention. Dennis On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, greg williams wrote: > I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, Murcia, etc.) which contains > specific symbols for 'golpe', making a percussive sound on the face or > bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is there, mid/late 1700s. > > ~Greg > www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams > > -----Original Message----- > From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys know better than i > do > about the true inventor,off course we could even go back to the blues and > there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that slap harmonics over a > harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons with bass notes and the > left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive slapping on the guitar > body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt invent that then it was > Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i guess he was given credit > for that.In any case because of that style i believe there were few pickup > systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance audio),but i see a lot of of > cats now that do that sort of style having to get special custom made > systems for them,so the market must still be too small... > like looping was!! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - wrote: > > > From: samba - > > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > > I don't think Tuck was the originator,didn't mean to > > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was great > > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very slightly > > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning Farlow,but > > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs so much > > as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can tell.I > > never heard him live.I know he had huge hands could reach > > insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a chord > > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low position bass note > > with the right hand 1st finger while holding the chord. Or > > strum a chord with the little finger while holding a bass > > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden Powell,and other > > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of percussive > > tapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but > > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live > > in the > > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > > everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping part.and > > that's not > > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who > > could mimic a samba > > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. > > This was happening > > back in the 60's at least. > > > > Bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: samba - > > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > > 9:05 AM > > > > To: > > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > > hedges > > > > > > > > > > > > "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... since > > Michael Hedges invented it." > > > > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately > > didn't invent tapping. My friend > > > > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to > > apply tapping to African guitar styles) > > > > told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity > > Theater, > > > > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) > > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping > > > > and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the > > idea from Tuck. > > > > But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly > > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. > > > > > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_244735_1416689.1231012233635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Classical guitar has a long tradition of using the "golpe" technique that Greg describes ... it really isn't a 20th century invention.

Dennis

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, greg williams <gregorwilliams@comcast.net> wrote:

I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, Murcia, etc.) which contains
specific symbols for 'golpe', making a percussive sound on the face or
bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is there, mid/late 1700s.

~Greg
www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist
http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams

-----Original Message-----
From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges

i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys know better than i do
about the true inventor,off course we could even go back to the blues and
there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that slap harmonics over a
harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons with bass notes and the
left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive slapping on the guitar
body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt invent that then it was
Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i guess he was given credit
for that.In any case because of that style i believe there were few pickup
systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance audio),but i see a lot of of
cats now that do that sort of style having to get special custom made
systems for them,so the market must still be too small...
like looping was!!

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom

--- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges
> To: billwalker@baymoon.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM
> I don't think Tuck was the originator,didn't mean to
> suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was great
> though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very slightly
> acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning Farlow,but
> he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs so much
> as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can tell.I
> never heard him live.I know he had huge hands could reach
> insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a chord
> fingered high up the neck,then tap a low position bass note
> with the right hand 1st finger while holding the chord. Or
> strum a chord with the little finger while holding a bass
> note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden Powell,and other
> Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of percussive
> tapping.
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> If
> we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but
> timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live
> in the
> present.Ludwig Wittgenstein
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> Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat
> everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping part.and
> that's not
> talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who
> could mimic a samba
> batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar.
> This was happening
> back in the 60's at least.
>
> Bill.
>
>
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>
> From: samba -
> [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com]
>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009
> 9:05 AM
>
> To:
> loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping
> hedges
>
>
>
>
>
> "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... since
> Michael Hedges invented it."
>
> Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately
> didn't invent tapping. My friend
>
> Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to
> apply tapping to African guitar styles)
>
> told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity
> Theater,
>
> in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill)
> listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping
>
> and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the
> idea from Tuck.
>
> But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly
> worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar.

--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
------=_Part_244735_1416689.1231012233635-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 19:52:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D02DF3BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mMfU+7Mlbd6O79PRAup0+kbi07dd5vjdV6X4g0jfi4McFT0Ig3LIyHe5R/qTCLEKV6YRMzoWeAOgHruK/QdFmpWLLqIGW3/TxyCxs9np90lwC12FY1L2oYZrzjojK/vbU3LO4UprCqjWu49NgMBbBgOKsLxjpYMg8GDtWG6Hmf4=; X-YMail-OSG: StkqEQcVM1mTvhJD69sidzTHjNGSOsI9RBedK2jqYFKLhs2LNvC7eiAtABc4u962buK6n0h2wXk4GrzrrXdHrGiNZ2UOwUjxy9jLfAZLda2qW5XJZIVLSTCwDCBjsxTf6CM28OqdnGn8xW3kY6xtn4Uawbuu.eLRay7ehUBGpHqgBWNB6GmVZRCKR8SqOg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:52:53 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <620830.70505.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-qfYRB.A.97D.XI8XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) but who is talking about a golpe? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Dennis Moser wrote: > From: Dennis Moser > Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 11:50 AM > Classical guitar has a long tradition of using the > "golpe" technique that > Greg describes ... it really isn't a 20th century > invention. > > Dennis > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, greg williams > wrote: > > > I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, Murcia, > etc.) which contains > > specific symbols for 'golpe', making a > percussive sound on the face or > > bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is there, > mid/late 1700s. > > > > ~Greg > > www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > > > i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys > know better than i > > do > > about the true inventor,off course we could even go > back to the blues and > > there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that > slap harmonics over a > > harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons > with bass notes and the > > left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive > slapping on the guitar > > body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt > invent that then it was > > Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i > guess he was given credit > > for that.In any case because of that style i believe > there were few pickup > > systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance > audio),but i see a lot of of > > cats now that do that sort of style having to get > special custom made > > systems for them,so the market must still be too > small... > > like looping was!! > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - > wrote: > > > > > From: samba - > > > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > > > I don't think Tuck was the > originator,didn't mean to > > > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was > great > > > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very > slightly > > > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning > Farlow,but > > > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or > riffs so much > > > as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can > tell.I > > > never heard him live.I know he had huge hands > could reach > > > insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a > chord > > > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low > position bass note > > > with the right hand 1st finger while holding the > chord. Or > > > strum a chord with the little finger while > holding a bass > > > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden > Powell,and other > > > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of > percussive > > > tapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal > duration but > > > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those > who live > > > in the > > > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > > > everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping > part.and > > > that's not > > > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden > Powell, who > > > could mimic a samba > > > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his > guitar. > > > This was happening > > > back in the 60's at least. > > > > > > Bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: samba - > > > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com] > > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > > > 9:05 AM > > > > > > To: > > > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > > > hedges > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... > since > > > Michael Hedges invented it." > > > > > > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But > definately > > > didn't invent tapping. My friend > > > > > > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the > first to > > > apply tapping to African guitar styles) > > > > > > told me about sitting with Hedges at the old > Varsity > > > Theater, > > > > > > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam > Hill) > > > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping > > > > > > and Hedges saying "that's it" He > got the > > > idea from Tuck. > > > > > > But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa > highly > > > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 22:19:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76D753BE77; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <495FE486.5010006@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:19:50 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT: Vinyl sales double in last year !ZOMG! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:19:48 +0000 (UTC) This is what is terribly misleading about journalism headline 'grabbers' sometimes: This is the headline from a website that Travis graciously directed us to: Back to the future: Vinyl record sales double in '08, CDs down What's old is new again when it comes to audio storage http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Storage&articleId=9124699&taxonomyId=19&pageNumber=1 This article reports in it's headline that VINYL sales are up and CD sales down, making it look like a trend that VINYL is on the move to supplant CDs I did the math: 1.8 million VINYL sales 360 CD sales that make VINYL sales 0.005% of total CD sales. Hardly a trend of note. mp3 sales surged from 32 million to 65 million which is, again, only 18% of total CD sales Now that we have that sorted, I want the real statistics: How many FREE mp3s have been downloaded? Of those FREE mp3s, how many were illegal downloads; how many were sanctioned? How many video games purchased? How many DVDs (of movies) purchased. and lastly, how many times was Guitar Hero purchased and, more importantly, played by kids who will never touch an instrument in their life. Comparing these figures to CD sales (which plummetted from 550 million to 360 million in the past two years) will be more telling statistics, I imagine. signed, someone working hard to release several recordings on a medium that apparently no one wants to purchase From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 22:33:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED1363BE7F; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <495FE7A4.6000205@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:33:08 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: CALL PATTY COOPER immediately 761-2403. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, this is Patty Cooper, Mezzo's friend, from San Antonio. I'm here in Santa Cruz with my son Jake for a week. We would like to ask you some questions about the drumming scene here. Could you give a call? 761-2403. Thanks!! Patty and Jake. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 23:16:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A8B93BE77; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xH+UOU71Pec67CLGmuU+a7V3QvKbrM1FVh41gwczzo4=; b=vaVYRcvqNix5J9mwEmoJ0RS6CPzUwwhRXd8Snd6iRqX0xt3KsEy5LQ5yxNt/zMcplB irGXMeDgwyJmMGZa3vRGUNxSle2KioNEPUoiGqEfV2oUXWcg9gBIT2Od8EQLco3kaY8m xhihfDU59orbeI5GHryZkeyoNRyReWPpTBK70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CjwtEJ1QiYS/KMLLPHYsLBWZPUe1zE44qCplJpe6DddF2JHN1JX/pWfliPbJq3a5z6 fcDJMxNYnT5GmV2TwDf22v6rcAfwIU9yOwDPPrmGoBhu9ZkXu9VsISCT+W27T5fGNWL5 DdNXdr0zL4rW8NCDJKhrn0zto59cCBGMdd5Go= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901031516pf17004sc5a6aa4c8a2aee47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:16:12 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CALL PATTY COOPER immediately 761-2403. In-Reply-To: <495FE7A4.6000205@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495FE7A4.6000205@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:16:13 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi Rick, this is Patty Cooper, Mezzo's friend, from San Antonio. I'm here in > Santa Cruz with my son Jake for a week. > We would like to ask you some questions about the drumming scene here. Could > you give a call? 761-2403. Thanks!! Patty and Jake. Go Rick Go Make Cooper Looper! Per amused with this new "social media" loopers-delight ;-)) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 23:59:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 265493BE79; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:59:41 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901011328o6e956545m41674764073d6cdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090103235941.183180@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4AE8FB7E-C97E-485D-B084-156244A510D8@theclaypools.com> <20081230101259.206590@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0812300228k2bff7495oed134e1a03ba04c7@mail.gmail.com> <20090101203549.63390@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901011328o6e956545m41674764073d6cdc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "release a record"? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+cA+8ucFKch/dra0p09mEbyfaEclYjTcYTdnziYM XHiQ81E9AsvGjjpA6uS9+fAU6JheVi8JeN0Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: g5Y9HclnbXB+WcxpyTU2dCoiLyUmZYiN X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > "Indie" artist is short for "independent" artist Wasn't necessary to explain this on 101 level ;-) Don't get me wrong: I don't mean to frame the indie artist as an embittered/less fortunate "not very talented and too lazy for making money on your own" ;-) Nowadays with the possibilities of computers & Internet for the process of music production as well as distribution, this is more than a viable option for many good artists. I was just really wondering how far people can get without a big company in their back. Nevermind, in the end, it seems to me that the most important factor is: NETWORK. The people you know, the people you work with etc... But I guess that is true for any business... best regards Buzap -- Sensationsangebot verl�ngert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL f�r nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 01:08:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33CD93BE7C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:08:16 UTC Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:59:22 -0500 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T with 4 rock bands 01.07.09, Boston MA To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing video improv with four rock bands at Great Scott in Allston on Jan 7. wednesday, 1/7/09 date at Great Scott from first to last: the crushing low www.myspace.com/thecrushinglow where the land meets the sea www.myspace.com/wherethelandmeetsthesea 28 degrees taurus www.myspace.com/28degreestaurus the wandas www.myspace.com/thewandas 1) 9-935 2) 955-1030 3) 1050-1130 4) 1145- 1230 Admission $8.00 http://www.greatscottboston.com/ 1222 Commonwealth Ave Allston, MA 02134 (617) 566-9014 -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 01:42:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 674943BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6d6DZe8Ss5tnD7RTDXIRTpXGXDmzDRF/amZXbsAHB7M=; b=wUH9hMUjZCdOzIt4hg6RFH988cGEMBsJoteToyYG0ba/1omeWwYvfjGzmcuLGAOpir LcGORbd2ok0NL5mkXvRb9ci1vXEy3M0fLnSqG7Rnqs2U9b8JZ+q9j2MBONZ5KcmAWuI3 26ULC8O3j9JDnZ4jIVO/fcDyBIwUILycdHbNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cpUGyGr+8yW7NhT6SbmH7NnWugtlcUauN9oy7r7IQ5SVneUYkwa1pXH2DamLlkX6U3 n+r39IzKXGallD2L5qnq6POo5kLtcCM8D55OJHVNVhn/kFuag1D1iJ8e4PPL1fgm8wza cmINhTM5rfqQ65+ORSnRGehaK9QPK+rqluLYA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901031742q69ce8de6he4a0b17f520d81e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 02:42:43 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: New site needs your help! :-) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901021619l6ee146b6y5c3b10627cbb433d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0901021139s1768e80cya2b636996931b6ce@mail.gmail.com> <654037.28675.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0901021612k7bf55043wcbc1151639722388@mail.gmail.com> <004c01c96d38$c0c93de0$0501a8c0@STUDIO1> <66f9cc1e0901021619l6ee146b6y5c3b10627cbb433d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Since I posted this call, a second article has been posted. So here's the direct link to the first article, that I asked for help with: http://www.perboysen.com/archives/1 By the end of the article there is a listing of some "Live Looping Resources links". If should think that I have forgotten some, please submit a comment at the site about it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 04:25:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09EA03BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 04:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d7ca67f7-c73d-4123-8c6e-f7939a4b40db_" X-Originating-IP: [69.179.158.120] From: J Johans To: Subject: video switcher controlled via midi Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:25:13 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4759e5740808140600s5b5f1142me506b8b9206917f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4759e5740808140600s5b5f1142me506b8b9206917f8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2009 04:25:13.0569 (UTC) FILETIME=[701E6D10:01C96E24] Resent-Message-ID: <9aPxNC.A.JOE.soDYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 04:25:17 +0000 (UTC) --_d7ca67f7-c73d-4123-8c6e-f7939a4b40db_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable aloha im looking for a way to have 3 lipstick cams going into a video switcher th= ats controlled via midi-it would be nice to have some built in transitional= effects/visual effects as well- anyone know of such a box?my pipe dream is= that i could send this "magical box" the same midi message and have it cho= ose a random camera/transitional effect/visual effect each time i know abso= lutely nothing of the subject=2C so even some good websites or product poss= ibilities would be appreciated -would this definately be a thing to run on = a CPU? or do they make hardware devices that may do this?mucho thanksfro _________________________________________________________________ It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. 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It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. If by =93same=94 you mean up to 70% faster. Get your account now. = --_d7ca67f7-c73d-4123-8c6e-f7939a4b40db_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 05:06:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 714B53BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:05:56 -0600 References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Mark, fascinating stuff, both video and audio. I love the infrared and speed manipulation on the video and the music had me on the front 3 inches of my chair! Thank you for sharing your inspiring work. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 05:08:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D6CB3BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: