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Thanks for the well though out review Mark, I hope you make all these points to the texas people too of
course. I’m curious , do you use the twins as your PA (plenty clean headroom
and a nice warm sound) or do you mic them and go to a house PA? How do they handle bass? I have a twin too, but I’m always afraid I’ll blow a speaker
with my jazz bass. Has anyone here used both an EDP and RANG 3? How do they
compare? Seriously. From: Mark McGlinchey
[mailto:markmcglinchey@gmail.com] Unfortunatly Ace I don't have any experience with the EDP to
do comparisons but I can tell you my impressions of the rang III. The first thing I noticed when I got it was it is much
smaller than I expected which some people find a huge plus, for me it's no big
deal but could be handy on occasion for throwing in a back pack. I find
the sound quality to be very good, very little noise, even when boosting the
incoming signal, and it replicates what I am playing absolutely fine
(I too use amps, in my case Twin Reverbs). The pedals are well separated but in truth I find
the 2nd bonus button a little awkward, it is placed in the top right and I have
to use the tip of my toe to press it, it would be fine if I sat down playing
but standing up and with my big clown feet it took a little getting used to.
The buttons do have an audible click when pressed but again it isn't a problem
for me as I play quite loud. I do however wish there were more bonus buttons. I
find stack, erase, undo and redo are core features that I want to have at all
times. Add to that the fact that loop four is also a "bonus" option
and the need for more buttons becomes more obvious. The reverse/fade/reverse solo
and octave features are cool but I don't use them as often as I would due to
the limited real estate for bonus buttons. As for the loop 4 thing I never use
it as currently only serial play and master play for 2 of the loops is
implemented and I find that without being able to play even the 3 other loops
simultaneously I personally have no use for a 4th. The build quality is very sturdy so I don't expect any
problems there. All in all, I think it is a great unit at the price point
even now without the full implementation. When the full implementation is
released I expect I will find a marked increase in the flexibility of
it but I am not holding my breath on that yet. Strangely I get the
feeling that were the software to have the full feature set I would find the
bonus button situation even more frustrating as I will know the possibilities
of the unit but still have to work around what features I can use and when. Hope that helps a bit, Mark. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Ace Ovil <aovil@wfubmc.edu> wrote: Mark, I would love to pick your brain on the
rang 3. I’m currently debating on whether to get a second working echoplex to
run them in stereo or sell the one working EDP I have to buy the rang 3. I am
ashamed to say I am not tech savvy enough to even attempt something like
ableton or another software solution. When it comes to computers, I can only
describe myself as functionally illiterate. I write patient reports on them ,
get e-mail and browse the web. I’m perfectly content with that even though my
sweetwater sales rep has been trying to get me to do that for at least two
years now (they can be pushy you know). I seem to change my mind on the subject
every day. On the one hand, I have spent tons of time learning and getting
proficient with the echoplex and don’t want to admit the technology may be
getting outdated (please don’t all flame me at once). On the other hand, the
rang seems on paper to do everything I need, runs in stereo, has more recording
time etc. Not carrying a rack to gigs once or
twice a week would also be a major bonus for my lazy ass. LOL I do a “one man band” type thing with
multiple instruments. My setup is similar to Arthur Lee Land (hand drums, bass,
guitars etc.) except I mic amps rather than use modelling into the board. I
also have a turntable and scratch mixer plugged into the board which I use as a
percussion instrument either inside the loop or against it and a sax I solo
with occasionally because I won’t admit I’m just not very good at it LOL.
Long story short, I have so much gear to carry by myself that I have
found myself wondering if I should just hire someone else to do it and hand
over the check from the bars to them for their effort. Lame right? What I want to do is run the
stereo effects loop of my mixer through a stereo looper so I can start
experimenting with expressing myself through sweeping and panning with a pedal
and also so I can place different instruments in different parts of the PA mix.
I think that would really expand my sound options and I wish I had set up this
way to begin with. Obviously the Rang option is the cheaper
and lighter way to go stereo. Do you have experience with both the EDP
and the Rang? What sort of functionality do you think
I would lose by doing this? Of course, advice from any of you other
mythical gods of looping would be greatly appreciated. Ace From: Mark
McGlinchey [mailto:markmcglinchey@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: A multi channel looper I
agree, I am loving my Rang III but everytime I use it I find a point where I
want to use some of the as of yet unreleased full feature set. Very annoying, I
can't complain though I was aware of what the implications of buying a pre-prod
model were when I did it. On
Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Ace Ovil <aovil@wfubmc.edu> wrote: Yes, that would work great, but I think
a multiply function was pretty important to him if I recall. I’m not sure about
the twenty but I know the RC-2 will not do this because I have one. I think the
Rc-20’s cannot either, but I could be wrong on this. For me, that would be a
deal breaker and it’s the main reason I sold my otherwise awesome 2880. If there is anything I have learned from
pouring money into this bottomless pit of looping gear over the last few years,
it is to get what you want right off the bat because you will end up spending
more money in the long run if you don’t. For me at least, it is a pretty
bad disease. Once I get a piece of gear that can’t do
what I envision musically, all I think about when I’m playing is “it sure would
be nice if it could do X”. I don’t feel the same way about other
instruments though, I can live with a guitar, bass, sax or drum kit
that doesn’t have “quite the right tone” I envision but as soon as a
looper limits my creativity I get annoyed with it, Maybe I’m just a glass half empty kind
of guy but would any of you agree with this? Ace From: scott
hansen [mailto:evanpeewee@yahoo.com]
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