Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13

["Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>]

I don't really see a problem with that Rainer, I never run a distortion 
pedal after delay or reverb, etc, anyway. I suppose that there are stereo 
distortion boxes but all that I have, Zvex Fuzz Factory, etc are mono. I 
always run distortion/filter or filter/distortion first and then into the 
modulation/delay/reverb stuff which is all stereo in my set up. Then I run 
that in stereo to my stereo loopers Boss DD 20 and EH 2880.

So as usual I see it as distortion-filters (some filters are stereo), 
modulations-delays/reverbs.(all stereo I think)

I do wish the looper was stereo however but actually don't anticipate 
using 
it much anyway. I get my M9 box today and will report. I am seeing it as a 
souped up replacement for my aging DL 4 which I have rarely used the 
looper 
on, (no feedback control/mono). The only thing that might change this is 
being able to switch pre/post fx, this may make it very usable indeed! and 
would stereoize the looper.

I do think I agree in that if I was looking for a does it all box, the M 
13 
would fail because of the lack of stereo looping. (What is the point?!!) I 
have given up on hoping for that outside of a laptop I suppose and I am 
just 
not ready to go that route..:)


enough out of me,

Jeff



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rainer Straschill" <moinsound@googlemail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13


> Thanks to you, Brian and Jeff, for your throughout explanation.
>
> So basically, it's an integrated stompbox-chain replacement with lots of
> flexibility plus looper, but nothing more (not this isn't a lot 
> already...).
>
> There's one thing that bothers me, however - and that's the passage
> "Some models (like Stereo Delay) provide stereo operation. When run
> before a mono model (like a distortion), the signal will collapse to mono
> as it feeds the mono effect, and will then be passed on in mono to the
> next effect or outputs."
>
> Which, although the device looks like a full-stereo thing (with stereo
> in and out), with lots of configurations (e.g. when you have a
> distortion in your chain) it will basically not be stereo (and the
> looper is mono as well).
>
> I'm just pointing this out because this is exactly what bugs me a lot
> about Roland's VBass, where you can pan your individual strings from the
> hex pickup wildly around, but the moment you send it through an amp,
> distortion or wah, it's all gone...
>
> Do you know (or does the manual state this somewhere) which effects are
> mono-only?
>
>       Rainer
>
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