Re: EICO 315 Signal Generator-useful? -guess not :(

[Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>]

Signals are tones.
I assume it's a sine wave generator and it looks like it has audio range. 
But, it may not be functional.

t
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Uccello" <stevebassbird@yahoo.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: EICO 315 Signal Generator-useful? -guess not :(


Cool piece Mark! I dig the subtle changes and I can hear the pitch 
changing 
in there-nice

    As far as this Signal generator: you know when you spend a certain 
amount of time on something, and it's not panning out, so you spend even 
more time to make it all worth it, then you decide to just cut your 
losses? 
...So I went to our local electronics store and got a bnc (British naval 
connector-I didn't know that's what it stood for!) to rca and hurriedly 
plugged it all in, there was pretty much no tone, I'm starting to think 
that 
since it's a 'signal', not a 'tone', generator, that I'm not gonna get 
much 
sound out of it, I took it apart and fiddled around, there's a LOT of 
copper 
in it, but nothing obviously wrong, oh well, I do remember seeing an 
actual 
Sine Wave generator in my uncles shop, plus a huge box of about 200 old 
tubes, I may try to mess w/ the Sine wave generator, it would be fun to 
mix 
its' sounds w/ the bowed upright bass and hear what happens, you guys will 
be the 1st to hear about it, till then, I'm gonna dive in to my LP 1 that
 I finally got into using (I LOVE it!) and see what comes out of it-Thanks 
for all the tips and input! Steve




--- On Mon, 4/5/10, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
Subject: Re: EICO 315 Signal Generator-useful?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:38 PM

He is assuming there is a VC or voltage control input. It COULD be that 
these things had something like that, but I doubt it. Even so the signal 
from a guitar unaccected is a bit.. ok very weak.. it would normally need 
to 
be amplified to about 5 to 15 volts... but it can be done. This is typical 
Modular synth application of an oscillator.



But I would use it for what a tone generator has traditionally been used 
for 
(outside of its normal use that is) and that IS as a drone machine. The 
echo 
thing is very... er... 1970s... think hawkwind or gong.. use of 
pictshifter 
with the original sig mixed in can be interesting if you barely detune, or 
have the possibility to detune on the fly in cents, not semis... then you 
will get beats and sub waves intermodulating.. which as HIGH volume can be 
extremely disorienting and effective.



What I like to do (in fact i have one track that is based purely on it) is 
to do the hippy thing with lots of delay.. but then sweep extremely 
slowely, 
infact ONE complete sweep from bottom to top during a whole song... Well 
ok 
not the whole song, but the second half...



Second half of THIS infact...

http://tinyurl.com/ye5d2rp

Tone generators rule... after all.. its all the Stockhausen era guys EVER 
had!!!

Mark



On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Steve Uccello <stevebassbird@yahoo.com> 
wrote:


Thanks for the tips! I'm anxious to hook up my delay pedal and sweep the 
freq around. I'll have to look around for the right cable today. I do have 
a 
question, Toby wrote <you could play guitar through it...> -it only has 
two 
outputs on the front (RF & audio) to play guit through it, would I need to 
somehow put an input? I might be misunderstanding you though





--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:



From: Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>

Subject: Re: EICO 315 Signal Generator-useful?

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:31 AM









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If you can modulate the frequency you could play guitar

into it or something and get really messed up sounds.



t



  ----- Original Message -----

  From:

  Gareth Whittock

  To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com



  Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:09

AM

  Subject: RE: EICO 315 Signal

  Generator-useful?



We had one in college that had a square wave on it as well as a

  sine. Yes, sweeping the frequencies through a delay sounds very cool.

The

  frequency on these is, (or should be) very stable so I'm thinking some 
sort of

  chorus/flanging sort of effect would prevent it from drilling its way 
deep

  into your skull..



peace



g



> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010

  09:59:51 +0100

> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk

> To:

  Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

> Subject: Re: EICO 315 Signal

  Generator-useful?

>

> The "classic" use is to put it through echo

  and sweep the frequency.

>

> I guess it makes sine waves, which

  would be unusual for drones.

> (could always run it through distortion

  if unusual isn't desired)

>

> andy

>

> Steve Uccello

  wrote:

> > Hello all, My uncle, who used to own a TV repair shop in

  the 70's gave me this 'EICO 315 Signal Generator' today,

> >here's a

  pic of it: http://twitpic.com/1dbiao I need to get the appropriate cable 
to

  plug it in

> > and find out how it sounds, but I immediately thought

  about LD and figured you guys might get a

> >kick out of it and may

  be even let me know if these are considered useful or not, my usual tone



> >generator (upright bass) is always great for kicking out the

  drones but I'm curious to mess

> >around with this thing. If anyone

  knows about 'em it would be cool to get some tips-Thanks all-be well! 
Steve

  Uccello

> >

> >

> >

  www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com

> > www.steveuccello.com

>

  > www.myspace.com/steveuccello

> >

> >

> >



> >

> >

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