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It's been enlightening, reading about the various approaches employed here. Thank you all for that. One of the reasons I'm interested in this method is that Tangerine Dream used to jam for hours in the studio and then cut it up, stick it together and voila - An album! Phaedra and Rubicon are 2 of my favourite albums to date. Similarly, Jimi Page has been quoted as saying he'd have up to 3 goes at a guitar solo and if he didn't get it right, he'd leave it for another time because the freshness would have evaporated. I was jamming along in my shed the other day and came upon something that made me sit up. I recorded it immediately but then decided to re-create that atmosphere from scratch in order to get the build-up recorded - no way did it sound the same. Same, setup, (memorised by the computer), same room, same me, same key and similar notes and I couldn't get near it. It put me in mind of chaos theory where a small change in one aspect of the musc has a much larger effect on the feel of the whole piece. I've ordered a copy of "Zen Guitar" from Amazon btw. I think it was mentioned on this list some years ago but looking forward to experimenting not only with my music but with my whole approach to that music. Peace G > Date:. Fri, 9 Jul 2010 22:53:56 -0700 > Subject: Re: recording methods - what's your approach? > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: chris@christojota.de > CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Honestly, Christo, > > I see what you say, but at the same time, > I have a lot of confidence in the depth of my own personal improvisations. > I've worked all of my life in many, many different contexts to be able to > produce really > deep and meaningful improvisations in many differnent kinds of contexts > (which is not to say > that I can hit a 'homerun' with every artistic endeavor). > > It can produce crap, but , at the same time, it can also produce really > beautiful > pieces of music because of it's spontaneity. > > It's all down to how good an intrinsic composer and an intrinsic producer > each artist is > .....and, finally, down to what kind of discernment a person has when > editing (or producing > oneself). > > I would advise: take a chance on oneself and edit out what sucks and let > exist what is > potent and powerful. > > To be overcautious can frequently kill what might be the next thing that > could possibly change the world (or morph it slightly). > > It takes courage to make changes in live and in music. > > If we are over cautious continually, then the status quo in art will > always exist. > We must, if you ask me , personally, take risks in artistry. If we don't , > nothing will change for the better. > > yours, > > respectfully, Rick Walker > > > > > The problem with recording an album by using material from looping jam > > sessions is that it might > > be spontaneous fresh sounding music, but it lacks from (complex) composed > > tracks and good sounding. > > We will be overwhelmed with so many music in our times, cause everyone > > thinks: Oh, I just > > sit down, take my guitar and looping device, turn on the laptop and record > > some tunes and > > release it on CD, put it on the internet for download or just on myspace - > > player > > I personally record nearly every private looping session too. But donŽt > > think I must have everyone > > in the whole wide world listen to every piece of crap... > > Christo > > > |