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Re: hex pickup link?

I save off everything interesting from LD, as luck would have it I found the thread: 


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From: "Dean, Hal" <HDean@wcupa.edu>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 9:31:48 AM
Subject: RE: hexaphonic pickup

I’ve been interested in this for years, and have contacted Richard McLish at least once a year about the fanout box… his response is always that he is having trouble getting quality manufacturing lined up. I don’t think his heart is in it, and I doubt we are going to see any more RMC fanout boxes on the market. Too bad, because it is exactly what you’re looking for and a great product.


That said, others have noted that there are instructions online for how to build your own. They are at the Unfretted site: http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=/profs/breakout.


Me, I’ve never wanted to devote the time to becoming really good at the skills required to make such a thing. I joined mfg.com at one point, looking to post specs and drawings and solicit prices for making some of these, but never pursued it. If anyone were interested in ganging together to facilitate that, I would be all ears.


As for hexaphonic pickups, I can testify on a broad range. I have a Casio NG-500, two Godins with factory-installed RMC systems (Multiac and LGXT), a custom classical with RMC system that includes the outboard processor, a PRS with a Ghost Graphtech system, and a beat up Fernandes Vertigo with a Roland GK-2. The Casio output is straight MIDI, and surprisingly good. All the other instruments go into a Roland GI-10 to convert the 13-pin to MIDI.  The GI-10 is viewed as slightly primitive, particularly by Axxon fans, though I think in terms of response it is the equivalent of the more frequently used GI-20.  The Axxon AX100 (I think that is their top-of-the-line model) is expensive, and I occasionally look for a deal on one on Ebay, but honestly most of the time I find the GI-10 adequate for what I do. In my opinion, RMC and Graphtech are equivalent, and a well-set-up Roland GK-2 or -3 is close.  One last note – I use a Peavy 1600x and made a patch to change parameters on the GI-10… it is a godsend, makes possible very swift reassignment of basic channel, sensitivity settings, mono vs. poly, octave, etc.  How you would do this with another MIDI controller, I don’t know, but maybe you are not really concerned about MIDI anyway.


Which leads to the question, Erdem, for what do you want this system?  Super-accurate translation so you can generate scores with very little after-the-playing corrective work?  Or are you just looking to split your string signals?


Note that no hexaphonic pickup system has a really wonderful guitar signal output.  Typically the guitar signal is separate; some systems can blend the hexaphonic pickup output (summed) with your guitar pickups’ output. That said, Erdem, I imagine you are going to be mangling the sound form each split-out string, so having the best possible guitar signal may not be really important, however much you might wish for it.  you can still have your regular pickups providing that “best possible sound”.


Hal Dean


From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:22 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: hexaphonic pickup


There are cheap gk-2 pickups on ebay.  You could get access to the wires before they enter the processing card on the triangular boxy part.



----- Original Message -----

From: Ricky Graham

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:13 PM

Subject: Re: hexaphonic pickup


Hi Erdem,


I'd recommend Graphtech and you can build your own breakout box easily enough. Also, check out Keith 

McMillens Stringport.


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On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:32, "Erdem Helvacioglu" <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:



I am looking for a hexaphonic pickup with a breakout box with 6 outputs. will connect these outputs directly to my laptop-audiomulch setup for processing the individual guitar strings seperately. any ideas about various products?


found this on the net. but i am not sure how good it is.



thanks and best.


Erdem Helvacioglu