Re: OT The Sub Pulse was West African/African Diaspora rhythms: 3/4,4/4, 6/8, 12/8

["Mark Showalter" <folkstone57@operamail.com>]

Hello,

Ok, let me see if I have this now.

The pulse is 4/4 because of the drums on the beat, but the "sub-pulse" is 
the bass & the palm muted guitar because they play on the sub-division of 
the beat?

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: OT The Sub Pulse was West African/African Diaspora rhythms: 
>3/4, 4/4, 6/8, 12/8
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:58:32 -0700
> 
> 
>   Interesting points from Andy in our discussion about swing and
> other accurate/inaccurate mapping systems.
> 
> Also, that pesky sub pulse.
> 
> I'd really like to weigh in on both when I've got time but this is 
> the absolute
> worst crunch time for publicity for the looping festival and I"m swamped.
> 
> This is just a note to say I'm not ignoring this thread,  it just 
> may be towards the
> end of the week when I can sit down and compose my thoughts
> 
> 
> Here's an example though , to illustrate, for the time being
> 
> take 'Mirror in the Bathroom'   by the English Beat
> 
> The song is in 4/4 (pulse = 4)
> sub pulse is twice as fast (sub pulse = 8th notes)(i.e., the bass 
> line's lowest common note value)
> fills in the tune (on snare or timbale) are frequently at twice that 
>speed
> but are NOT the way the tune if felt or danced too.  (embellishment 
> = 16th notes)
> 
> That's how I map tunes conceptually in analysis (and also in 
> attaining a feel for the 'groove' of a tune
> if I"m learning it for the first time.

>



Mark Showalter
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