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Re: Fripp and Eno

Indeed, infact that technique that Eno introduced to Fripp, and he blithely called Frippertronics, was infact the same technique that Terry Riley used on DAMN.. forgotten... rainbow... curved air... something like that... and he called it the "Time Lag Accumulator" . Which I think is a MUCH better term for it!!!

So if you want to write about the history of Time Lag Accumulating, you need to look further that Fripp. Stockhausen is known to have used the technique (and disliked it I believe, for the same reasons that Eno LIKED it...) and the BBC´s radiophonic workshop were also big on tape loop and feedback experiments, although I havent heard anything with LONG ENOUGH looping to be called looping... if such a time exists... when does delay become looping exactly?

I think its a very interesting history, but either you define your parameters, like is sampling looping? so when does looping stop being looping and become sampling? If you stop the loop.. and then start it again? OR (which is the only real answer.. but a HUGE subject) is to include all forms of looping, DJ, Live looping, Sampling, delay, and basically any repetitive recorded music...

One could start with a history of artificial delay, Elvis perhaps? Buddy Holly?


On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:

May I, in the capacity of my "day job" submit that that is ONE of the
histories of looping? There may be others, waiting to be
written...such is the historical record and its processes...


Dennis "Who does NOT play a librarian in Real Life"


On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Matt Stevens
<mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi Anja - all the history stuff is here
> :) http://www.loopers-delight.com/history/history.html
> Any questions give us a shout
> Matt Stevens
> www.mattstevensguitar.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
> On 8 Oct 2010, at 14:55, Anja Hohl wrote:
> I have to write a dissertation about looping. My question is about the
> beginnings of that technique. When did looping come up? Who was the firs
> loop artist? Did Fripp and Eno actually invite the Frippertronics or became
> it just famous through them?
> Thank you, Anja

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