Rick,
As a Mackie 1202vlz owner I’m intrigued – how do you get maximum routing
out of it, if I might ask?
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: lp-1 tricks
Thanks for all the thoughts.
Yeah, I'm pretty good at
setting up my Mackie 1402 or 1602 so that I can get maximum
routing (and
muting options) but this D-Tar is a lot less sophisticated (yet I can get it on
an airplane).
I'll have to experiment with the master effects
chain. I have to look up whether it is pre or post
faders.
anyway, thanks for all the time you spent and your
friendship. I hope I get to hear you play some day.
who knows
whether someone will step up and do the looping festival in nor cal again next
year.
there are some rumblings, but it's really time for me to
redirect my energies to my own artistry after 10 straight years of tithing my
time and energy to the looping community.
I love it, but I feel like I'm
running out of time to get the myriad creative things accomplished that I want
to get accomplished on this mortal coil.
Cheers,
rick
On 11/20/10 5:53 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
well i don't have my lp-1 any more. i'm using mobius in bidule on
a macbook pro. but i used to use it with a rack mixer. i used to split my dry
signal into three streams. one went direct to the mixer and the other two went
to my repeater and the lp-1. the lp-1 was set to 100% wet. the mixer had mute
buttons on it, so i could mute the dry signal completely. if you put the lp-1
into the master aux send of your mixer, you could do the same, simply by
dropping the fader where you have your main signal going in. the aux send will
be pre-fader, so signal will still get sent to the lp-1. the lp-1 would be set
to 100% wet. i think the inserts would be pre-fader too, so no problems
there.
i did use the aux sends in the lp-1. you can't alter the levels
directly, but volume control can be achieved further along the
chain...especially if you route them back to a channel on the mixer. in fact
having a slightly larger mixer would allow you to have main signal on channel
1, lp-1 main output on channel 2, aux 1 output on channel 3 and aux 2 output
on channel 4. total control. i had my aux 1 routed to a lexicon mpx-1, so i
could further treat my loops. the outputs came back to another channel on my
mixer. i had a kaoss pad on the fx send of the repeater too. again...it came
back to it's own channel.
i never really use song form looping, so i can't
help you there, i'm afraid. many people do and some of them post on the lp-1
forum, so i'm sure you could get some help there, if you feel you need it. i
know it's completely possible to get some quite sophisticated arrangements
going with the right string of commands. sounds exciting and scary - hats off
to you sir and best of luck with it!
sim
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 11/19/10 9:08 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
cool. i can't remember how i stumbled on
this...probably by accident, but it's a great technique. i think i usually
used fast scramble and then did half speed on the loop to get the scramble
rate i liked.
because i split my dry signal and my
loops
Currently, I'm using the inserts to send and return from my
stompbox pedals (and M9 looper)
and then, probably primitively, I'm
sending the final mix to the LP1 and from there to the PA
My brother
says I should not do this and should use the Master Effects loop to send to
the LP1
but I wanted to be able to have a completely wet signal if I
need it in the LP1.
Do you have an opinion on this
one?
, it's easy to mute the dry part. you can have
some fun creating loops where you can't hear what you're playing -
especially if the loop is heavily treated with fx. i learned this tip from
david torn, while watching one of his "painting with guitar" videos years
ago.
Have you
experimented using the Aux sends, out of curiosity?
I haven't even
looked. Can you change the volume of each send
individually?
It's funny, but though I use a lot of the features on
the LP1 I don't really know it
deeply. I'm just now wanting
to use it to create coherent singer/songwriter forms
so I have a bit of
a learning curve to figure out what people have done along those
lines.
I've played abstractly for the last 10 years..........complete
improv always and suddenly,
I'm really hankering for song form,
structure and melody in my own work: writing my first ever
singer/songwriter record (using a ton of really simply played acoustic
instruments--mostly because I"m a neophyte on all of
them). I'm simultaneously really turned on musically and
really scared and insecure (especially about writing
lyrics). I'm trying to force myself to grow through the
stuff that turns me on and scares me simultaneously.
It's going to be an
exciting year!
anyway, if you come up with some nice stuff
using this technique, please post some clips, i'd love to hear what you do
with it.
btw - just read on facebook that bob has a new update out
for the lp-1, so hopefully you guys will get some bugs
fixed!
Yeah, no
kidding. This LP2 project and the fact that it's radical delay this
year (due entirely to the irritating people who manufacturer the boxes he
had designed who have held him
up for an entire year) has forced him to
take on another full time job (as well as raise his family of five) really
put the LP1 problems on back burner, but I know he's back on it
again.
I've got some really killer rhythmic software additions coming
down the pike for the machine
and he's promised those ideas top priority
for the person who's helping him code now.
Stay
tuned!
all the best
you too, Simeon!
rick
sim
ps - watch the "reply-to" address
if you don't want to go on-list
Wonderful technique, Simeon.
For all the times I"ve used
sus replace (I'm responsible for putting a version in the upcoming new
LP-2 Mini Looper) I never thought of doing this.
I suppose on a
single song you could go to wet only in the main menu of the Looperlative
to get the loop on it's own.
I just love recontextualizing
random and then bending it to one's own will ----
muaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!
take care, and thanks for
the tip.
Rick Walker
Thanks
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