Kim said, >There was the cd project from long ago, >but the guy organizing it disappeared. Disappeared? Have you tried to reach him recently? Matt, if you want to take care of this thing, you should try to contact that guy anyway - his name is Ray Peck <rpeck@PureAtria.COM> and he had already collected a number of tapes for the CD, some money, and maybe he had even done some work on this. Maybe you can continue where he stopped. ___________ Michael Peters http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters HOP - Fractals in Motion ..."the only screen saver you'll ever want" http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm