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mackie? vs. soundcraft...



hello all, 
       sorry to jump in on a converstion, but in regard to the mackie vs
soundcraft thing:  mackies are cheap, quiet and they have excellent 
customer
support.  i highly reccomend them for settings where size, reliability and
money are concerns.  they should be commended for  great products.  But, 
they
just don't sound as good as your average soundcraft ( not the new plastic
boards, either).  i have owned and used lots of mackie gear  and have no
complaints other than that the mic pre's sound thin.  period.  i dare you  
to
A/B them with any old soundcraft or MCI or API console.  sorry, but i 
mostly
produce records for a living and think we shouldn't confuse reliability,
price and customer service (all very important) with plain good sound.  of
course it is entirely subjective, but i've yet to hear otherwise from 
anyone
who has checked it out.


peace, r.