Hi. Excuse the self-promotion, but the JamMan involvement should justify it - We've just released a CD (8 tracks, 74 minutes) under the name Collective. Frippy guitar, improvised vocals, and eletronic beat weirdness. RealAudio, mpeg3 and ordering info at http://webworlds.net/os/collective/ cheers, -- Os os@millennium.co.uk http://webworlds.net/os/