Re: Drugs+music: Off topic?

[ld thomson <heatshrink@hotmail.com>]

I guess the drug thing is a touchy subject for me.  Personal experiences 
being both good and bad.  My only LSD experience was having some jerk put 
it 
in my wine at a party.  They put in a lot.
It was not fun.  I had no idea what was happening or why and it was like 
having someone pull every self doubt/highschool low self opinion that 
rested 
in my skull  out and hand them to me.  That was four years ago, and I feel 
I've been healing since.

Soundscaping has been a big part of that healing.


>From: mark <mark.francombe@in2win.com>
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>Subject: Re: Drugs+music: Off topic?
>Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:36:04 +0200
>
>I very much agree with Mark,
>....and the fact that what binds us freaks together is the interest in
>loops, in some bizarre love/interest in repetion/hypnosis, in the making
>of music and/or sounds that by their very nature produce a trancelike
>(or mind altered) state. Of course the aim of all music is to produce an
>emotional response, and the particular response that we loopers are
>looking for is some shortcut to our unconscious. That said are we not
>the very same bunch of people who, while not necessarily taking drugs,
>should embrace and empathise with those artists who do, for they
>themselves are using drugs to reach a place where their inspiration is
>pure emotion in a primal way, and therfore continue to push the
>boundaries of art/music to evermore meaningfull heights.
>I myself have used drugs on some occasions and have stopped now (mostly)
>I care a little too much for my health/bank balance and the crappy
>feeling the next day. There are risks of course, and I suspect that many
>addict musicians get to that position but taking drugs as a replacement
>for the adrenalin high that one experiences from playing live, and that
>is a shame, but inspirational careful non abusive use, I can see many
>benefits.
>
>DOPE TALE #1
>I once played a gig completely left handed after taking acid, I didnt do
>it for some kind of intellectual experiment, I just forgot that I was
>right handed, the result? Well... I guess you could say that an
>industrial indie band became kinda... um....jazz?
>
>
>MArk Francombe Red
>
>Mark Sottilaro wrote:
> >
> > For all recorded history there are tales of artists and drugs.  It 
>seems
> > to be an indelible part of art "lore."  Should the list avoid the
> > topic?  Some feel uncomfortable with the topic, due to either bad
> > personal experience or bad press, but how can we avoid this topic.  The
> > stereotype of the drug addled musician didn't come from nowhere.
> >
> > Back to the Bulgarians... I was actually tripping the first time I 
>heard
> > the Bulgarian Woman's Choir.  It made me cry with joy.  If I had not
> > been tripping, my emotional response would probably not have been that
> > acute.  Why?  Internal social "noise" imprinted in most male humans
> > stifles such behavior.  What the LSD did was put my "filter" off-line
> > for a while and let it all stream out (in?) with out that little mental
> > traffic cop, I call Mr. Conscious, pointing the way.
> >
> > Now, should I have been able to "go there" without LSD?  Of course.  
>But
> > how can one go to a place that one doesn't know exists?  The reason I
> > don't do drugs any longer is that they've served their purpose for me.
> > I can get there on my own.  Bizarre social constructs block most
> > creative free form thinking.  Face it, true artists are few and far
> > between.  We should not need to use any substance to access this
> > integral part of ourselves, but we also should not get scolded for
> > "coloring outside the lines."  I'm one generation away from a time when
> > nuns beat my father for writing with his left hand.
> >
> > So how does one leapfrog over such social hurdles?  I used
> > psychedelics.  Now I cry like a baby when I see the episode where 
>Snoopy
> > runs away...has anyone...  Oh, sorry.  I know I could have gotten to
> > where I am without drugs.  That's tough for a boy raised in the land of
> > Malls.  But I'm not sorry for wanting to see what inspired I Am The
> > Walrus.  Or the Giles, Giles and Fripp album, for that matter.  If
> > Robert Fripp wasn't tripping in those days, I'd be amazed.  And 
>speaking
> > of our heroes, has anyone listened to Adrian Belew's "1967" on Mr. 
>Music
> > Head?
> >
> > Let's face it: a very large proportion of the music that we listen to
> > was created under the influence of some drug. (I include alcohol in 
>that
> > list.)  Why is this?  I'd love to hear anyone else's theories.
> >
> > Mark Sottilaro
>
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