I've received two notifications that the MP3 file I asked people on the list to download to check out looped tuned drum machine bass samples out on does not download particularly well to Intel machines. try this url: http://webriffs.dhs.net/ Click on the webriffs icon. Then, search on the name "Todd Madson" and my tunes will be there. These ones should* work. Sorry for any inconvenience. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html