Mac users get : thOnk_0+2 http://www.audioease.com Uses Granular Synthesis to work it's voodoo. No user controls. Completely random. Very kewl. System requirements : Macintosh PowerPC or a Macintosh 680x0 with a mathematical coprocessor (FPU), with 1 megabyte of free RAM and system 7.0 or higher. Also, a wee looping toy built using Max/MSP : Groove Machine ftp://ftp.ircam.fr/pub/forumnet/public/GM.sea.hqx - Drew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com