Re: > loopist > musician > looper sync

["Mike Biffle" <mbiffle@svg.com>]

>> Travis wrote... << I'd say "no". >>

> Nemoguitt (or MichaelNOTMiko) wrote...
> so , independent loopers, when playing together, will need some
form of "midi" or something, to sync them?........there seems to be
something inorganically wrong with that outlook.......i hope it is not
true, but then again, i have not played with other loopers........i
have played with another musician into the rang, i.e. two players into
one looper.....this was great fun........so travis, are you saying
that if i sat down with a rang and you had an edp and there was some
other looper in the mix, that we could not create together due to
timeing roblems?....michael

My strategy in a situation with multiple unsynched loopers is that
the first looper gets dibbs on the rhythmic motif and the others are
subjugated to ambient/atmospheric stuff. This usually works just fine
because you can sort of pass the beat around as you segue from one
thing to the next, leapfrog style. Makes for good variety and each
member gets their chance to build their own composition...

That said... It's extremely hard to really match tempos when tapping
in 4 - 8 - even 16 beat phrases... but the longer the phrase the more
likely you'll be able to hang together rythymically for at least a
couple or more repeats. That's why (when not synched via midi) super
long phrases are sometimes the way to go. 

Now with the EDP and it's quantize functions, I've heard that using a
short segment and using insert or multiply to increase the length
actually will keep it more accurately synched to a clock... midi I
presume. But unsynched is another story. 

It's actually quite humorous (and daunting) how quickly a short
phrase can cartwheel out of time despite an insanely concentrated
effort to accurately tap it in. It's amazing! Now and then you can
really nail it, but it's pretty tough. 

Best Regards,
Miko Biffle, mbiffle@svg.com
"Running scared from all the usual distractions..."