Re: Effect as crutch

["Christopher White" <magicicada@mindspring.com>]

I do not play guitar or any other standard instrument for that matter.. i
use found sounds as my palette.. i must say that i often end up just using
my looping features on my quad 2 and my mpx 1 with maybe a bit of octave
pitches..though sometimes i do drift towards those long deep hallways and
the skipping delays. i say it is all a means to an end and some can pull it
off while others drift in preset efxt hell. i prefer to spend many an hour
making up my own special efxt blend so as to add to the sound not to make
the efxt thee sound.
c.white
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>From: "mark givens" <markeg@ivillage.com>
>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>Subject: Re: Effect as crutch
>Date: Thu, Nov 25, 1999, 12:33 PM
>

> 
>--Jeff beck uses relatively few effects  reverb and fuzz. to get his tones
>
>On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:03:47   Christopher White wrote:
>>how about efxs as an instrument?
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>>From: "Alan Imberg" <alan_i@sprynet.com>
>>To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>>Subject: Re: Effect as crutch
>>Date: Wed, Nov 24, 1999, 7:52 PM
>>
>>
>>Clifford makes a very valid point. Its easy to take for granted the sound
>>options we have today. I still marvel at Hendrix's recordings. The 
>effects
>>may sound dated today but when I consider the state of the art circa 
>1966 to
>>1970, I get blown away by the tones he gets almost as much as his 
>playing.
>>Even more impressive in my opinion is the fact I've yet to hear anyone 
>come
>>close to sounding like Jimi even thought the effects he used are now very
>>common and affordable.
>> 
>>Though it is a cliche, I find validity in the analogy that sonic effects 
>are
>>the equivalent to musicians what extra colors are to a painter. Today, we
>>have colors galore. Placed in certain peoples hands, they can become 
>nothing
>>more than a smeared mess. Placed in the hands of someone with 
>imagination,
>>patience, and vision, you can get a masterpiece.
>> 
>>Bottom line: Its the imagination behind the tools that determines the
>>quality.
>> 
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Bien Appraisers <mailto:bienappraisers@mindspring.com>  
>>To: Loopers Delight <mailto:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>  
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:50 AM
>>Subject: Effect as crutch
>>
>> 
>>     This happened a lot in the 60's and 70's- people had concepts for
>>sounds (Miles a great deal I hear) and went looking for them even to the
>>point of having them made from scratch- inspiration- now we find 
>ourselves
>>in a time where anyone from anywhere can go and buy just about every last
>>effect on the planet for chump change- (basically!) so instead of a ring
>>modulator being a rare item as it used to be, now you can have one and 
>100
>>other effects for a few hundred dollars- not a bad thing but of course 
>there
>>will be those who just may be using the effect as a "crutch" every so 
>often-
>>
>> 
>>Clifford
>>
>>
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